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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 763624  Australia01/30/2010 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Enjoy Perigee tonite! And Mars should be brilliant as well! Quoting: Prof_RabbitTake care guys! Peace Proving once again that Earth's orbit is as it should be, all is right in the sky. Nancy fails yet again! I would but we got a cyclone here- so no night sky to be seen :-( roads flooded and towels under the back door and lights flickering on and off ( thank dawg for inverters and laptops) but definately no night sky :-( |
***ZetaMax*** User ID: 877571  United States01/30/2010 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not necessarily - for it comes out of the direction of the sun, and as such won't be seen without professional equipment until the VERY LAST weeks before the shift. So **NO**, PX will **NOT** be "obvious" in 2010 in order for a PX induced pole shift to occur in mid to late 2011. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624funny back during the venus transit (that funny bit where venus crossed in FRONT' of the sun (that expensive liar said wasnt going to happen too...) I got to watch it using nothing more than a pair of binoculars with sunnies attached by elastic bands and a bit of paper now if I can see a planet as `small' as venus in front of the sun using that- why couldn't I see a much bigger planet doing the same?? the bunkers seem to have this idea that "sun is bright- i'm not- nothing can be seen in front of the sun because I can't" all it shows is they arent the brightest sparks around PX is not in "front" of the sun - but just off to it's right side - lost in the coronal glare. The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
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| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 877571 United States01/30/2010 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PX is not in "front" of the sun - but just off to it's right side - lost in the coronal glare. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 872902Bullshit! I see "someone" has a closed mind!! The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
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| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States01/30/2010 11:03 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see "someone" has a closed mind!! Quoting: ***ZetaMax***That has nothing to do with it. "Planet X" has been proven time and time again to be nowhere in the inner solar system. Just as Earth has been proven not to be "halted in orbit."  A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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| KeepingItReal User ID: 873259  Canada01/30/2010 01:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how Venus, which is almost 5 times smaller than the alleged planet x was visible in it's approach and passage in front of the sun in 2004, but px is hidden in the coronal glare. What a joke. Maxi's mind is so open his brain fell out. If PX is as big as Nancy says, it would in fact obscure a good portion of the sun, like the moon does during an eclipse. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States01/30/2010 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, that would depend on its position between Earth and the sun. If it was as close to the sun as Venus or Mercury, it wouldn't blot out all that much...although it would certainly be more than what Venus or Mercury would do. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| KeepingItReal User ID: 873259 Canada01/30/2010 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, that would depend on its position between Earth and the sun. If it was as close to the sun as Venus or Mercury, it wouldn't blot out all that much...although it would certainly be more than what Venus or Mercury would do. Quoting: Circuit BreakerStill, it would be impossible to not see it. I mean this object is supposed to be 4 times bigger than the earth. Even if it is closer to the sun than Mercury it would look pretty big from earth. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 877571 United States01/30/2010 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The timeframe as indicated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444Please re-indicate the timeframe. Before 2012. The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
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| The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 878270  New Zealand01/30/2010 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PX is not in "front" of the sun - but just off to it's right side - lost in the coronal glare. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Bullshit! I see "someone" has a closed mind!! :Bunker_Con: ......Melfy you fruitcake!! Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
| The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 878270 New Zealand01/30/2010 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The timeframe as indicated. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Please re-indicate the timeframe. Before 2012.  .....just another one of your fantasies eh, Melfy.Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
| The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 878270 New Zealand01/30/2010 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before 2012. Quoting: ***ZetaMax*** Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 877571 United States01/30/2010 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before 2012. Quoting: The Lone RangerCORRECTION - when the DEBUNKERS can no longer deny THE TRUTH!!!!! The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| CharlieFrost User ID: 878078  Germany01/30/2010 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How long ago did the Zetas first visit earth, and what was the planet and people like at that time? Quoting: Live chatSOZT We were here before man was genetically engineered from the ape. We were here when the intelligent species was reptilian. EOZT  Last Edited by CharlieFrost on 01/30/2010 07:23 PM |
| CharlieFrost User ID: 878078 Germany01/30/2010 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do the Zetas feel about their colossal undertaking to assist humans through the coming cataclysms? Is the work a labor of love, or is it just a job? Do Zetas get emotionally attached to the humans they work with? Quoting: Nancy LiederSOZT How would YOU feel, given you had worked closely with various contactees, for decades, their entire life in many cases, and were limited in your ability to assist them due to the rules under which you perforce had to follow. Imagine a child, whom you watch go out into the world at large but were unable to intervene if danger were to present. You can counsel this child, but if they choose otherwise, you can do nothing! You can watch this child in agony and do little but comfort them from the side, verbally. That’s our situation. EOZT awww |
| CharlieFrost User ID: 878078 Germany01/30/2010 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Nancy and Zetas! During the chat ( [ Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 9 (Page 3) on the 9th of January I asked a Q: Quoting: Nancy Lieder“Here is a link to the article hinting at recent discovery of Sun’s Dark Twin. Was it really found by scientists ? If no, then can it be found with our earthy accessories soon ? [ [link to hubblesite.org] Zetas answered: “NASA and the Hubble masters have been aware of the Earth Dark Twin for many decades. But it will not be “found” by them as MJ12 sent military men to accompany STS aliens there, and this colony did not fare well….” Etc. I asked about SUN’s Twin (“second foci” per the Zetas) and got the answer about EARTH’s one. So answer once again please my Q correctly. NancyTalk: oops, this was my mistake as if I have in my head the question different than asked, the Zetas will address the Q as in my head. The article you referenced is impossible to digest during a chat, for Heavens sake! Part of this is YOUR fault. SOZT We have stated that the Sun’s binary twin, an unlit sun, is some 18.74 sun-Pluto distances away, in the direction from which Planet X emerges to sling through the solar system. This is out toward Orion, at an angle approximately 11 degrees below the Ecliptic. If the NASA article is talking about this direction, and this distance, then it is the same, but we doubt this. EOZT So there is a sun, a second sun AND a dark twin .... this is all so cunfusing ... but no worry, it's  |
| CharlieFrost User ID: 878078 Germany01/30/2010 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will inhabitants of Planet X or its satellite objects experience changes as well as Planet Earth? Or, have they devised ways to avoid the upheavals? Quoting: Nancy LiederSOZT As we have mentioned in the body of ZetaTalk, the residents of Planet X do NOT experience any turmoil as a result of the passage. Planet X is the bully magnet, and Earth litter along the roadside. EOZT Last Edited by CharlieFrost on 01/30/2010 07:31 PM |
| Chaz User ID: 848123 United States01/30/2010 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do the Zetas feel about their colossal undertaking to assist humans through the coming cataclysms? Is the work a labor of love, or is it just a job? Do Zetas get emotionally attached to the humans they work with? Quoting: CharlieFrostSOZT How would YOU feel, given you had worked closely with various contactees, for decades, their entire life in many cases, and were limited in your ability to assist them due to the rules under which you perforce had to follow. Imagine a child, whom you watch go out into the world at large but were unable to intervene if danger were to present. You can counsel this child, but if they choose otherwise, you can do nothing! You can watch this child in agony and do little but comfort them from the side, verbally. That’s our situation. EOZT awww However, the witch has no sentimental feelings for her dog....nor for her follower's pet. That still gripes my ass, telling them to kill their pets. I would love to pop that bitch with the same meds she gave her loving companion. |
| Chaz User ID: 848123 United States01/30/2010 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NancyTalk: the rule is that the Zetas will not comment unless the OTHER making the statement has a prediction accuracy trackrecord. Quoting: Nancy LiederThread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 30 (Page 5) |
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| Reality User ID: 878417 United States01/30/2010 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Nancy bit and then realized something might not be quite right. After responding to my Q, I was banned within a minute. I made only one post the ZTChat: Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 30 (Page 2) "Reality User ID: 871792 1/30/2010 6:57 PM Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 30 Good day Nancy. In reference to your above mentioned thread discussing NASA doctoring: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] could you look at this cyberspaceorbit page and comment whether Kent's "winged Ra" is PX?: [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] It looks exactly like the images you've identified as valid PX images. Is Steadman's image a valid image of PX, yea or nay? Thanks." I then patiently waited for her to go through the que and answer my question, which she did with ZT: Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 30 (Page 4) "Nancy Lieder Forum Moderator User ID: 872190 1/30/2010 7:55 PM Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 30 SOZT The Winged Globe at least is Planet X, yes. EOZT" I was then immediately banned. Bingo. She's stepped in it and probably doesn't realize how, but has an inkling something isn't quite right. I suggest copying this exchange before she deletes it. That Steadman image is from Septembe, 2002. How can that be PX by the sun in Sept, 2002? From her own site, her own coordinates (RA & Dec which she doesn't understand) show PX "inbound" in Taurus, near Aldebaran. The Sun is about 100 degrees away from that spot on that day. That SOHO spacecraft is amazing. It can image the Sun and PX together even when PX is somewhat "behind" the spacecraft. Nan, does that explain why you had a bad feeling about that non-confrontational, innocuous single question from me? ZT - PX arrived in 2003 ZT - PX imaged next to sun in 2002 ZT - PX in Taurus in 2002 ZT - PX in Virgo in 2002 It's a magical planet. It's both here and not here at the same time. ZT wrong and illucid twice in one statement. Have fun. R. |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 877571 United States01/30/2010 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CORRECTION - when the DEBUNKERS can no longer deny THE TRUTH!!!!! Quoting: Circuit BreakerAnd what truth is that Max? [link to www.lmgtfy.com] Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 01/30/2010 08:27 PM The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Reality User ID: 878417 United States01/30/2010 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, and that is why on the other Nan thread I requested the Debunkers not jump on my post: Thread: NASA Caught Doctoring SOHO Images - Red Handed! (Page 7) @9:56 PM. I'd set up a very 'lawyerly' trap which had no correct answer for ZT. ZT wrong no matter what the answer. Some of you guys knew what the problems were and were getting close to revealing them. That would've spoiled the fun. Have fun. R. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States01/30/2010 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ***ZetaMax*** You claim to be a "fence sitter" and then post something like that? You prove once again, you aren't a "fence sitter" at all. [link to lmgtfy.com] [link to lmgtfy.com] Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/30/2010 08:38 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States01/30/2010 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where did the debunkers go? I can hardly believe it! Quoting: Nancy LiederTime to end the chat, after 2 hours. Thank you all for attending and asking such good questions! Hope to see you next week. Good night! You got scared of their presence so you deleted their posts and banned them.  Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/30/2010 08:41 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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