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if it is not cyclical then it represents a "catastrophic" pattern, irregular.

No it represents a Chaotic pattern. I have not seen any catastrophic events linked with magnetic reversal.
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have you witnessed one ever?
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Rogue asteroids and comets has no gravitation effect on the core of the earth whatsoever.

The moon does, and the sun to a lesser extent, as does Jupiter. Fairy planets do not.

Magnetic reversals are not regular or Cyclical, they are Chaotic, as I have shown you, I could go back a 2 Billion years with the list of reversals, some changed and then changed again within 10,000 years, others didnt change for 40,000,000 years, there is nothing cyclical about it.


space trash falldown is irregular event and it repesents catastrophic pattern.

and so do Magnetic reversals - if its irregular (chaotic) then its most likely catastrophic.
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FAIL, as I have stated there are NO catastrophic events linked with Magnetic reversal.

Space trash falldown as you put it is completely unrelated, why even mention it?
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this video is not even ABOUT ZetaTalk, and it quotes ZT only here and there. Most of it (90%) comes from other sources than ZT
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Then what are those other sources?
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if it is not cyclical then it represents a "catastrophic" pattern, irregular.

No it represents a Chaotic pattern. I have not seen any catastrophic events linked with magnetic reversal.


have you witnessed one ever?
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Nope have you ever seen PX?
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these rocks move along with the crust, pulled in many different directions in each new pole shift. this is what these rocks show
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How would you know? Are you a geologist?
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washing too much (too often) is damaging to skin and hair. it depletes it of natural fat that protects it, making it more susceptible for fungi and bacteria.

use your common sense
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lol4me Common sense, Andrew, tells me that you stick to your preferred hygiene routine and I will gladly keep to my normal one young man.

lol4me Thank goodness the internets are still sniff proof eh!!
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"current field weakening" is effect of Nibiru approach.
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And yet you can't show produce any tangible and verifiable evidence that this "planet" even exists.

what facts show is that field was twice as stronger 2000 years ago, and 3000-4000 years ago it was as weak as it is now. and no wonder, cuz that time was a time of last Passage, the same as now.
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And that shows "Planet X" exists how? Hmmm, it doesn't.
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then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"?
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No one really knows for certain. That's why science works...it is able to admit when something is wrong when new data doesn't support the current theory. Zeta science, on the other hand, makes a claim and then twists all evidence to fit it.
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then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"?

No one really knows for certain. That's why science works...it is able to admit when something is wrong when new data doesn't support the current theory. Zeta science, on the other hand, makes a claim and then twists all evidence to fit it.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Exactly which is why my answer was Most probably through chaotic movement of liquid metal at the earths core, which is the theory most reputable scientist believe. However since Andrew doesnt like reputable science he twists everything to fit his High priestess Nancy's agenda.
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Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists?


[link to www.vimeo.com]

I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


what is a **credible source**, to you?

one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures?

then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people.
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Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists?


[link to www.vimeo.com]

I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again.


what is a **credible source**, to you?

one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures?

then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people.
 Quoting: andrew

Sorry, but Nancy is not supported by anyone reputable.

Credible means to be given and passed a period of peer review, Non of Nancys claims havent even got anywhere near peer review.

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Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists?


[link to www.vimeo.com]

I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again.


what is a **credible source**, to you?

one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures?

then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people.
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Which many people ? the ning has not even 1000 members.
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Space trash falldown as you put it is completely unrelated, why even mention it?
 Quoting: VestanPance


impacts of space objects are an irregular event, catastrophic event.

"magnetic reversals" are too.

FAIL, as I have stated there are NO catastrophic events linked with Magnetic reversal.
 Quoting: VestanPance


if our science doesnt admit it, but there are facts that point to it...

and btw, magnetic reversal does not cause any catastrophic events by itself, it is a sign of crust displacement.
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Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists?


[link to www.vimeo.com]

I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again.


what is a **credible source**, to you?

one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures?

then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people.
 Quoting: andrew

Good grief, Andrew! You think FACTS are supported by OPINIONS? No. Facts are facts in spite of opinions, facts are facts regardless of how many people believe something or not. Facts are not groundless, but they certainly aren't based on opinions.
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and btw, magnetic reversal does not cause any catastrophic events by itself, it is a sign of crust displacement.
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Based on what evidence? What are your qualifications to make that assumption?

Crustal Displacement was a theory by Hapgood in the 50's. Shame Hapgood wasnt a geologist though. It has since been debunked time and time again.
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this video is not even ABOUT ZetaTalk, and it quotes ZT only here and there. Most of it (90%) comes from other sources than ZT

Then what are those other sources?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Hapgood

Velikovsky

Sitchin

numerous articles and works by different scientists.

this is our science - opinions differ

and if you claim that i twist facts to fit my theory, then you should know that at least there are scientists who stand for the same theories.
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these rocks move along with the crust, pulled in many different directions in each new pole shift. this is what these rocks show

How would you know? Are you a geologist?
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excuse me - are YOU?

its not necessary to even be a scientist to come to these conclusions

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this video is not even ABOUT ZetaTalk, and it quotes ZT only here and there. Most of it (90%) comes from other sources than ZT

Then what are those other sources?


Hapgood

Velikovsky

Sitchin

numerous articles and works by different scientists.

this is our science - opinions differ

and if you claim that i twist facts to fit my theory, then you should know that at least there are scientists who stand for the same theories.
 Quoting: andrew

Hapgood was a historian, not a geologist.

Sitchin has been proven to be wrong, and made translation errors.
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these rocks move along with the crust, pulled in many different directions in each new pole shift. this is what these rocks show

How would you know? Are you a geologist?


excuse me - are YOU?

its not necessary to even be a scientist to come to these conclusions
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Guess what, I have a degree in Geoscience.
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andrew

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then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"?

No one really knows for certain. That's why science works...it is able to admit when something is wrong when new data doesn't support the current theory. Zeta science, on the other hand, makes a claim and then twists all evidence to fit it.

Exactly which is why my answer was Most probably through chaotic movement of liquid metal at the earths core, which is the theory most reputable scientist believe. However since Andrew doesnt like reputable science he twists everything to fit his High priestess Nancy's agenda.
 Quoting: VestanPance


what do i care what "reputable scientists" believe? who they are that i listen to them?

do they hold any exclusive knowledge or means to know for sure?

they are the same humans as you and i and Nancy. but we, for some odd reason, ascribe to them this supreme judjement ability.
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then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"?

No one really knows for certain. That's why science works...it is able to admit when something is wrong when new data doesn't support the current theory. Zeta science, on the other hand, makes a claim and then twists all evidence to fit it.

Exactly which is why my answer was Most probably through chaotic movement of liquid metal at the earths core, which is the theory most reputable scientist believe. However since Andrew doesnt like reputable science he twists everything to fit his High priestess Nancy's agenda.


what do i care what "reputable scientists" believe? who they are that i listen to them?

do they hold any exclusive knowledge or means to know for sure?

they are the same humans as you and i and Nancy. but we, for some odd reason, ascribe to them this supreme judjement ability.
 Quoting: andrew

They clearly are more intelligent than yourself.
Otherwise you wouldnt pin all your hopes on a debunked Historian, A Sumerian "Expert" who translated ancient writing wrong, and a russian who believed in Catastrophism, all of whom have been debunked.
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what is a **credible source**, to you?

one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures?

then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people.

Sorry, but Nancy is not supported by anyone reputable.

Credible means to be given and passed a period of peer review, Non of Nancys claims havent even got anywhere near peer review.
 Quoting: VestanPance


what an entertainment!

what is "reputable", in the first place?

- worthy of respect
- Having a good reputation; honorable
- trustworthy

who decides what source is "worthy of respect" or not? based on WHAT?

"peer review" - that's exactly it, "reputable" simply means it is supported by other people. it all counts on opinions of other "reputable" people, who are credited by yet other "reputable" people....
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what an entertainment!

what is "reputable", in the first place?

- worthy of respect
- Having a good reputation; honorable
- trustworthy

who decides what source is "worthy of respect" or not? based on WHAT?

"peer review" - that's exactly it, "reputable" simply means it is supported by other people. it all counts on opinions of other "reputable" people, who are credited by yet other "reputable" people....
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No, Independently reviewed and work that can be verified by other people.
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"Scientific Fact" == "Propaganda"

Prove it.
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I am `ASSuming that as usual the zeta `max' (PMSL) got it wrong

in fact its probably part of his (many) maths problems...

maxipad may have `meant' that "Scientific Fact" = "Propaganda"

or then its possibile he meant "Scientific Fact" is't "Propaganda"


quite frankly no-one (probably not even Kurt himself knows anymore) knows if he is `kidding' or serious- whenever he posts, the fence shitter has spun his story so many times even Star Treks best`est' can't make heads or tails anymore of what he says...

IF by "Scientific Fact" = "Propaganda"- well yes- but easily checked - well by..... well.... almost anyone on or off this planet....

IF on the other hand he meant to say "Scientific Fact" isn't "Propaganda" then he's right again- it isn't... as most propaganda isn't scientific fact and never has been and never will be....

Using the zetawhoowhooooo definition of both Propaganda and Scientific Fact- which makes Melfries babblings interchangable in either case....




ummmm......



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Sorry, but Nancy is not supported by anyone reputable.
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she doesnt have to be, noone has to be.

she is supported by REALITY.

does someone who says Earth is round or that sunrise just happened on March 8, 2010 has to be supported by anyone "reputable"?
andrew

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what is a **credible source**, to you?

one that is supported by opinions of other "authoritative" figures?

then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people.


Which many people ? the ning has not even 1000 members.
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numbers dont mean anything here.

millions can be deluded to believe uttermost nonsense, and yet, does it make it true? no
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Sorry, but Nancy is not supported by anyone reputable.


she doesnt have to be, noone has to be.

she is supported by REALITY.

does someone who says Earth is round or that sunrise just happened on March 8, 2010 has to be supported by anyone "reputable"?
 Quoting: andrew

Nancy is not supported by reality, shes in a far off land of make believe and your dumbass has been taken along for a ride.

as for your second statement, it does help if someone reputable with knowledge on the subject says "yes thats true" because its been independently verified.
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then opinions of Nancy/Zetas should be a credible source to you,since it is supported by so many people, whose opinions are supported by many other people.

Good grief, Andrew! You think FACTS are supported by OPINIONS? No. Facts are facts in spite of opinions, facts are facts regardless of how many people believe something or not. Facts are not groundless, but they certainly aren't based on opinions.
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what we know about the world is a CONSENSUS among people whom we grant that authority - to decide what we consider our world to be.

they can be wrong, and they are on number of issues
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and they are on number of issues
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Name those issues then
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these rocks move along with the crust, pulled in many different directions in each new pole shift. this is what these rocks show

How would you know? Are you a geologist?


excuse me - are YOU?

its not necessary to even be a scientist to come to these conclusions

Guess what, I have a degree in Geoscience.
 Quoting: VestanPance


and?

what an argument is that?

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