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Firstly, thank you for answering my posts -- albeit incompletely...


I give the scientific "method" PLENTY of credibility. It's SCIENTISTS that I distrust so much.


Very well. However, I have seen several, if no dozens, of experiments you CAN do yourself that demonstrate Nancy's ideas regarding a halted Earth are wrong, and therefore so is the claim of Zeta 100 percent accuracy. You won't perform one, nor address these glaring departure from reality. That seems like a rejection of the scientific method, to me.



The "scientific method" is infrequently practiced with sincerity and true rigor these days.



Well, you, yourself, won't practice the scientific method. As an example, you have continually refused to do a long exposure photograph of the sky, which could lay to rest Nancy's claim of a wobble in the sky every six hours. Why should anyone practice what you, yourself, will not?

And, when they DO, and show that the sky is moving normally, you refuse to address that, as well. Seems odd, given your claim of being "on the fence," doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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If it traveled at that speed it would show up as a bulge
on the Sun, along with several other effects.
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Have we seen this with another star? or what is the theory? Interested in this thought but there is not enough info here to start researching.
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Have we seen this with another star? or what is the theory? Interested in this thought but there is not enough info here to start researching.

Most of the planets that have been discovered around other
stars are due to observing bulges in that star and they are
usually planets with very swift orbits.
 Quoting: DrPostman

Thank you. I remember this now, just wasn't linking the terminology.

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Periodic wiggles in stellar movement can signal an orbiting world's gravitational tug on its star. Another method looks for dips in stellar brightness called transits — when planets pass directly in front of a star and block out some of the light.
[link to www.space.com]
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So what do you think caused this?
[link to solar.nro.nao.ac.jp]
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They still keep mentioning richter scale measurements for a pole shift in the future. People stopped using the richter scale a while back, its the moment magnitude scale now.
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They still keep mentioning richter scale measurements for a pole shift in the future. People stopped using the richter scale a while back, its the moment magnitude scale now.
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Its been MMS for nearly 40 years, only the press still quote the richter scale, and zeta dumbasses.
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"the media may feature this version of events, and treat NASA in a respectful manner"
quoting ZT

yes, very probable that this will happen this way. and, God, i think many will go along this comedy theater presented by mainstream media. those who put absolute faith in Science and "experts'.
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What a retard.

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Now thats funny mates ... :

I forgot to mention Cilantro, which is put into salsa and has anti-bacterial qualities, keeping it from spoiling. A those handy weeds! Sheep sorrel is one that grows in the area but I've given it a spot in my garden. A low light plant that will grow in the shade, and very high in vitamin C! Pig weed too and Lambs Quarters, I always allow some plants to go to seed in my garden. Pig weed is very high in vitamin A.


Have I made you anxious to start your own garden and practice? Remember, seed you save yourself cannot be traced via internet purchases. If you can't get non-hybrid corn then collect Indian Corn, which makes an excellent corn meal (though colorful). If you eat squash or carve a pumpkin for Holloween, save that seed for Heaven's sake! Get started! Feel the burn! This may be your last opportunity, your last year, to get into this stuff.
 Quoting: Nancy LIEDer


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Now thats funny mates ... :


I forgot to mention Cilantro, which is put into salsa and has anti-bacterial qualities, keeping it from spoiling. A those handy weeds! Sheep sorrel is one that grows in the area but I've given it a spot in my garden. A low light plant that will grow in the shade, and very high in vitamin C! Pig weed too and Lambs Quarters, I always allow some plants to go to seed in my garden. Pig weed is very high in vitamin A.


Have I made you anxious to start your own garden and practice? Remember, seed you save yourself cannot be traced via internet purchases. If you can't get non-hybrid corn then collect Indian Corn, which makes an excellent corn meal (though colorful). If you eat squash or carve a pumpkin for Holloween, save that seed for Heaven's sake! Get started! Feel the burn! This may be your last opportunity, your last year, to get into this stuff.


[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 915478


This is GOOD advice! How can you find it humorous?

idyut
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Firstly, thank you for answering my posts -- albeit incompletely...


I give the scientific "method" PLENTY of credibility. It's SCIENTISTS that I distrust so much.


Very well. However, I have seen several, if no dozens, of experiments you CAN do yourself that demonstrate Nancy's ideas regarding a halted Earth are wrong, and therefore so is the claim of Zeta 100 percent accuracy. You won't perform one, nor address these glaring departure from reality. That seems like a rejection of the scientific method, to me.



The "scientific method" is infrequently practiced with sincerity and true rigor these days.



Well, you, yourself, won't practice the scientific method. As an example, you have continually refused to do a long exposure photograph of the sky, which could lay to rest Nancy's claim of a wobble in the sky every six hours. Why should anyone practice what you, yourself, will not?

And, when they DO, and show that the sky is moving normally, you refuse to address that, as well. Seems odd, given your claim of being "on the fence," doesn't it?


I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Nope, I'm still here.

All it takes is a camera, a tripod and a bulb cable to prove that Nancy is wrong.
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Firstly, thank you for answering my posts -- albeit incompletely...


I give the scientific "method" PLENTY of credibility. It's SCIENTISTS that I distrust so much.


Very well. However, I have seen several, if no dozens, of experiments you CAN do yourself that demonstrate Nancy's ideas regarding a halted Earth are wrong, and therefore so is the claim of Zeta 100 percent accuracy. You won't perform one, nor address these glaring departure from reality. That seems like a rejection of the scientific method, to me.



The "scientific method" is infrequently practiced with sincerity and true rigor these days.



Well, you, yourself, won't practice the scientific method. As an example, you have continually refused to do a long exposure photograph of the sky, which could lay to rest Nancy's claim of a wobble in the sky every six hours. Why should anyone practice what you, yourself, will not?

And, when they DO, and show that the sky is moving normally, you refuse to address that, as well. Seems odd, given your claim of being "on the fence," doesn't it?


I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Why would I leave now? It's just now getting good with the bunkers desperation growing now with every month that gets closer to showing that Nancy's lie is just that. Besides, you'll owe me a steak at the end of next year.
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Agreed - it is actually a fairly disturbing image. But that is what the debunkers are all about: drive away the curious from Nancy and the Zeta's WARNING by **ANY** means possible.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

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Indeed, debunker spines are like over-cooked spaghetti - limp with no flavor.
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You're such a liar, Max. He presented no challenge...I did. And he ran from it each and every time. It's documented in these pages for everyone to see. Spin, Max...spin. It's also clearly documented here that you are NOT a fence sitter. It's obvious for all to see that you are nothing but a Nancy follower.

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THANKS!

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Let's post that again the way it should been done:

zetatards


We are taking this thread DOWN!!!

tombgrave
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Let us know when you start. So far, you and your little friend have failed each and every time.

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Not at all! This is a battle of UNCERTAINTY! I simply rail against the postured "Certainty" peddled by the debunkers. They act as if they have cornered the market on "knowledge".

_absurd
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Yes, your statement is completely and totally absurd. You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.
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Not at all! This is a battle of UNCERTAINTY! I simply rail against the postured "Certainty" peddled by the debunkers. They act as if they have cornered the market on "knowledge".

_absurd

Yes, your statement is completely and totally absurd. You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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on_way
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This is why no one believes you when you claim to be a "fence sitter."

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I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

But it doesn't take equipment like that to determine if the Earth is halted in orbit or not. This is just an excuse.
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This is why no one believes you when you claim to be a "fence sitter."
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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Well, okay -- the only equipment you'd need would be a camera capable of long exposures and a tripod -- but let's do the poor man's way.

The Poor Man's Wobble Buster:

Get a long tube of some sort, maybe 18 inches long, with a good 4 inch aperture. Mount it on something permanent so you can center the North Star through its length, and the tube itself cannot move. Take notes for a few nights at various times on whether the North Star is still in the tube.

Does the North Star stay in the tube regardless of when you observe? If so, the wobble is busted and Nancy is wrong.

That didn't cost you much of anything, did it? Well, except belief in Nancy, of course...
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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.
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Oh, really?

Warning: The Sky is Falling! Your only recourse is to head immediately to the South Pole.

What? Not heeding the warning? Why not?
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Pushing your auto-biography again I see.
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Pushing your auto-biography again I see.
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.



Oh, really?

Warning: The Sky is Falling! Your only recourse is to head immediately to the South Pole.

What? Not heeding the warning? Why not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I know what you're thinking ... you're thinking you've just handed my ass to me.

You'd be **WRONG**!!

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Why would I leave now? It's just now getting good with the bunkers desperation growing now with every month that gets closer to showing that Nancy's lie is just that. Besides, you'll owe me a steak at the end of next year.
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Yes the bunker desperation will be the one sure thing on the increase around here. As soon as we hit the start of the year 2012 that will be Nancy's "goose cooked" for once and for all. Zetatalk and its failed claims have deservedly been ridiculed for many a year now. Even Nancy herself invited the throwing of "tomatoes" at her if the rogue planet never showed up(her statement was made somewhere around 2004, I think).
But the year 2012 is indeed special as Nancy has stated categorically that her rogue planet would appear and cause a geographical poleshift decisively before the year 2012 begins. There is "no out" for Nancy this time.

yes_sir If Ms LIEDer and her believers think they have it bad from the debunkers now; then wait until the year 2012. It's gonna get mighty rough for them and justifiably so.

yes_sir I cannot think off hand of any other person in the history of doomsday prediction making who has had such a complete FAIL RECORD as Nancy has achieved over so many years.
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Yes, the bunker desperation is increasing EXPONENTIALLY!
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It's wise to heed a "warning" - even it turns out to be a false alarm.



Oh, really?

Warning: The Sky is Falling! Your only recourse is to head immediately to the South Pole.

What? Not heeding the warning? Why not?


I know what you're thinking ... you're thinking you've just handed my ass to me.

You'd be **WRONG**!!

:dwagain:
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How is that, Einstein?

Why would 74444 be wrong?

Or is this just another question that you fail to answer or that you ignore?
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And since YOU'RE HERE PARTICIPATING...that makes you a twerp too!

Congratulations, Max!

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I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?
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I'm curious to know out of the 4 main zetacult followers: Luser, Andrew, FreeStore and ZetaMax, how many of them were supporting Nancy back in 2003?
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I have been reading Nancy Lieder at GLP since 2002, and a year before that at Zetatalk.com, of which I have read her whole site at least a couple of times.

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