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dark object = flat object

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dark object = flat object

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You are so right about Nancy "viagra" LIEDer grasping at straws. The woman has a habit of doing so. But I find the quoted SOZT....EOZT quite revealing.

Comment by Nancy Lieder 1 hour ago

SOZT
This is the Dark Twin, which has been crowded up behind the Earth in their shared orbit, but the orbit they share is no longer exact, due to the crowding. The Dark Twin has pushed back, slightly away from the Sun, to avoid crowding the Earth, in the same manner that the Earth has pushed back in her orbit to avoid the approaching Planet X. Such crowding will increase as Planet X comes outbound from the Sun, closing the gap between itself and Earth. Dramas will ensue, which we decline to detail at the present time.
EOZT

Aside from all the crapola before the above highlighted end statement it has become an increasing trend for Nancy to state such vague and meaningless things. Nancy has FAILED so many times that she is seemingly unwilling to be bold and courageous in claiming specific future predictions.

This is because the Zetas of the Ms LIEDer variety are non existent creatures plain and simple. And the bunkers who live off her every nonsensical word are not only misguided and willfully gullible but also live very shallow and boring lives. There could be no other reason why these zetaculties can believe such repetitive garbage.
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dark object = flat object

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You are so right about Nancy "viagra" LIEDer grasping at straws. The woman has a habit of doing so. But I find the quoted SOZT....EOZT quite revealing.

Comment by Nancy Lieder 1 hour ago

SOZT
This is the Dark Twin, which has been crowded up behind the Earth in their shared orbit, but the orbit they share is no longer exact, due to the crowding. The Dark Twin has pushed back, slightly away from the Sun, to avoid crowding the Earth, in the same manner that the Earth has pushed back in her orbit to avoid the approaching Planet X. Such crowding will increase as Planet X comes outbound from the Sun, closing the gap between itself and Earth. Dramas will ensue, which we decline to detail at the present time.
EOZT

Aside from all the crapola before the above highlighted end statement it has become an increasing trend for Nancy to state such vague and meaningless things. Nancy has FAILED so many times that she is seemingly unwilling to be bold and courageous in claiming specific future predictions.

This is because the Zetas of the Ms LIEDer variety are non existent creatures plain and simple. And the bunkers who live off her every nonsensical word are not only misguided and willfully gullible but also live very shallow and boring lives. There could be no other reason why these zetaculties can believe such repetitive garbage.
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I am NOT a "believer".

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Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 04/13/2010 08:11 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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So tell me, how exactly does one "join" the "zetacult"???
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A person may find some answers in zetatalk material that fit into that person's previous description of how things are. That may involve fitting thoughts of practically anything there is. For instance planet x seems to explain some things that the person has seen in the internet or wherever. A person may feel the connection between what he/she has experienced and what Nancy or the Zetas are saying. Anything goes, really. Freestore has often written about having seen ”ufos” and those are linked to zetas in his mind.

Of course in reality there is no connection between what individuals experience and what another person is telling them. But mind makes the connections and sometimes those connections are just separate thoughts occurring at the same time. It is these purely individual connections that to others seem like no real connection at all. For the person making the connection in his/her mind it seems very real, since there is the experience and some kind of explanation. The person wants to find certainty and so he/she attaches thoughts into experiences that otherwise might remain unsolved or unexplained. That may go very wrong.

Freedom to express ideas runs deep in our minds. We have to be able to express our thoughts and tell about what we've exprerienced freely, without ridicule. Nancy's cult offers people that freedom although in a limited sense, since basically you can't express thoughts that go against Nancy's thoughts. But unless they do there is space for expressing thoughts and ideas that in the mainstream culture would have the person shunned or even excommunicated. Our cultures and groups are not so very open to different thought forms.

However, Nancy's group of people with certain mindsets doesn’t differ from other groups in the mainstream. The difference exists only in content but not in form. Form is adopted from mainstream ideas and expectations of so called decent behavior. In other words Nancy has only formed another cult group while claiming to offer something totally different or liberating. It is no different from other cults or cultic groups be they catholic churches, christian sects, or any group that exhibits similar conduct and rule.

Cultic groups are formed in pyramid shape. There is a leader on top of it, and subleaders under the top leader, and so on, and it's the big mass at the bottom that offers the basis for the whole setting. The roles in this pyramid shaped setting may change but the setting itself doesn't. The pyramid form is very well protected along the minds of the cultists, especially of those on top of it. Those in power benefit from the pyramid structure.
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If the "zetacult" is a FAILED cult, then by extension, it is NON-EXISTENT!

So how can I be a "member" of a NON-EXISTENT cult???

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I can see why you are having a brain fart, logic tells us that "failed" is a "has been" like yourself, just because you failed to win the race does not mean you disappear, you still remain a pristine example of stupid!
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bump for ZetaCrap wrong again and again and again and again
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I am NOT a "believer".
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We need to keep this one for posterity! but then again you nothing but a lowly sock after all..
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Then why is Nancy demanding that WE figure out how far away her imaginary 'Dark Twin' is?

Oooh...good question for Max. Why is that Max? Why was Nancy asking for members here to help her figure out how far away the "Dark Twin" is? Why not just ask the experts?


Because the "experts" will not give answers that will eliminate the "element of doubt" - causing panic in the elite and subsequent oppression of the common man.
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Well "they" claim to have given exact sky coordinates for PX at one time and claimed PX was found there, inbound...turned out to be lies, but that is beside the point. "They" claimed to be giving a date, within a few weeks, of when some 90% of Earth's population was going to die, yet now you say "they" won't say anything which could cause a panic??

HAR!
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LOL. The whole Zetard line gets funnier and funnier.

I love the aspect of the whole bit in which the mighty Zetas can move whole planets around to keep people from looking up and being afraid, but they won't divert their imaginary planetoid *away* from Earth to prevent mass destruction.

I think the Zetas may ride the short yellow saucers, if you get my meaning...

Yes, the whole thing is quite laughable to say the least.

"We are the mighty Zetas. We don't give signs on demand, instead, we choose to send them in pieces of unwrapped candy after sneaking into Saturday morning matinee features. Nor do we do math problems on live Internet radio programs...so don't ask! If you do, we'll go on a five minute rant about how puny you humans are and probably won't understand our answer anyway.

Now, we aren't supposed to interfere with the natural passing of Planet X but we're warning you that it's coming...this is in direct violation of our prime directive and could get us banned from the Council of Worlds Pole Shift Picnic...and we're really looking forward to it because, well, come on...it's only held every 3600 years and Stick Man's wife makes the best potato salad! Anyway, now that we've warned you and told you what to look for...we're now going to hide any trace of those signs. For instance, your Earth has been halted in orbit since December 2003. But don't bother looking to see if that's true...we're tilting the Earth back and forth to simulate the seasons and make the sky appear as it should. Some of you argue that constellations behind the sun can't be made visible by simply tilting the Earth but we say it can so there! We're the Zetas after all and we know everything...even when Planet X will pass...but we're not going to tell you that because doing so would definitely get us banned from that picnic and probably get us removed the Council's Christmas card mailing list. So, let us make this clear...Planet X is coming but we're going to cover up all signs of it and lie to you numerous times about when the pole shift will happen. Just remember...it will definitely happen on May 15, 2003...all other dates are incorrect, unless we say you have weeks not months...but, without a doubt, 2012 is too far out so we'll just say soon."
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NIcely done!
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Max, I'm curious.

You state over and over that you are not a believer.

And yet your every post proclaims you to be just that. You champion all things ZT, blindly, with the zeal of a zealot.

If you truly are NOT a 'believer,' please describe for me the aspects of ZT for which you have doubt.

thanks.
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dark object = flat object

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Since the exif shows that a flash went off, is it possible that the flat object is an "orb" as they like to call them. In other words, a small, close object, dust, moth, etc, caught out of focus by the flash?
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Max, I'm curious.

You state over and over that you are not a believer.

And yet your every post proclaims you to be just that. You champion all things ZT, blindly, with the zeal of a zealot.

If you truly are NOT a 'believer,' please describe for me the aspects of ZT for which you have doubt.

thanks.
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Practically all of it.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Practically all of it.
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Interesting. If you doubt 'practically all of it' why be so one sided in your vocal defense of it? Why not point out some of the issues with which you disagree with ZT, and ask for clarification? Why not propose evidence that can confirm or falsify ZT to you?
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Max,

Thanks for your reply. I must say it comes as a surprise, since I've seen you argue in favor of halted Earths and telepathic Zetas and pole shifts.
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Max,

Thanks for your reply. I must say it comes as a surprise, since I've seen you argue in favor of halted Earths and telepathic Zetas and pole shifts.
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Max likes to argue from the POV that ANYTHING could be true.
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I see that there is nothing the Debunkers can or will offer

WE shall remain unconvinced.

Enjoy the day...
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Ah yes, Mr FrEaKy yours is a world of total delusion buckethead So much for your claim of being a straight shooter who gives nothing but straight answers. Being so intellectually dishonest about the wealth of knowledge; evidence; and understanding brought to the table by the debunkers has been yet another one of your downfalls on GLP. Ignorance has become your master eh, Mr FrEaKy.
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Max,

Thanks for your reply. I must say it comes as a surprise, since I've seen you argue in favor of halted Earths and telepathic Zetas and pole shifts.



Max likes to argue from the POV that ANYTHING could be true.
 Quoting: Menow 935048

Well ... couldn't it???
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Max likes to argue from the POV that ANYTHING could be true.

Well ... couldn't it???
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Well, will you worship the Invisible Dragon in my Garage? It demands your fealty...
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Practically all of it.

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Interesting. If you doubt 'practically all of it' why be so one sided in your vocal defense of it? Why not point out some of the issues with which you disagree with ZT, and ask for clarification? Why not propose evidence that can confirm or falsify ZT to you?
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Max,

Thanks for your reply. I must say it comes as a surprise, since I've seen you argue in favor of halted Earths and telepathic Zetas and pole shifts.



Max likes to argue from the POV that ANYTHING could be true.

Well ... couldn't it???
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



No. Stupid argument from a very, very stupid troll.
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Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

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NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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I am NOT a "believer".

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At last some truth. No you are not a believer, you just accept whatever garbage spews from nancy's mouth without question.
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Well ... couldn't it???
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A lot of things could be true, until proven one way or the other. And, in regards to many of Nancy's claims, they've been proven not to be true.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Max...initially, a light bulb "could be" on or off. Without investigating it, one could reasonably say that. But once examinedand found that no current is flowing through it and that it is emitting no extra radiation other than that simply from its blackbody room temperature, it is said to be definitly OFF. At that point, no reasonable person would possibly say that it "could be" on or off. It is most definitely in one particular state. It no longer exists in some imaginary state of limbo.

The same goes for Nancy's claims. They have been examined and found to definitely be false (i.e. the earth stopped in orbit around the sun). There is absolutely no possible way in the physical world that it could be otherwise without all of a sudden violating thousands of years of consistant observation. How do you suppose that you could still say that they "could be" true in any practical manner? What does this say about your sanity?
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WHOSE TRIPPING IN HERE............
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Max...initially, a light bulb "could be" on or off. Without investigating it, one could reasonably say that. But once examinedand found that no current is flowing through it and that it is emitting no extra radiation other than that simply from its blackbody room temperature, it is said to be definitly OFF. At that point, no reasonable person would possibly say that it "could be" on or off. It is most definitely in one particular state. It no longer exists in some imaginary state of limbo.

The same goes for Nancy's claims. They have been examined and found to definitely be false (i.e. the earth stopped in orbit around the sun). There is absolutely no possible way in the physical world that it could be otherwise without all of a sudden violating thousands of years of consistant observation. How do you suppose that you could still say that they "could be" true in any practical manner? What does this say about your sanity?
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Well put. Simple explanation and it wasn't condescending or rude.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 04/13/2010 09:16 PM
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Max likes to argue from the POV that ANYTHING could be true.

Well ... couldn't it???



Well, will you worship the Invisible Dragon in my Garage? It demands your fealty...
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:Ha: Your invisible dragon can demand all it wants!

dutch_boy
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Max...initially, a light bulb "could be" on or off. Without investigating it, one could reasonably say that. But once examinedand found that no current is flowing through it and that it is emitting no extra radiation other than that simply from its blackbody room temperature, it is said to be definitly OFF. At that point, no reasonable person would possibly say that it "could be" on or off. It is most definitely in one particular state. It no longer exists in some imaginary state of limbo.

The same goes for Nancy's claims. They have been examined and found to definitely be false (i.e. the earth stopped in orbit around the sun). There is absolutely no possible way in the physical world that it could be otherwise without all of a sudden violating thousands of years of consistant observation. How do you suppose that you could still say that they "could be" true in any practical manner? What does this say about your sanity?

Well put. Simple explanation and it wasn't condescending or rude.
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Who said anything about being "practical"?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Max likes to argue from the POV that ANYTHING could be true.

Well ... couldn't it???



Well, will you worship the Invisible Dragon in my Garage? It demands your fealty...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Does the Invisible Dragon have a name? Or a website? Or a book with rules? What will it give for fealty?
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Max likes to argue from the POV that ANYTHING could be true.

Well ... couldn't it???



Well, will you worship the Invisible Dragon in my Garage? It demands your fealty...


Does the Invisible Dragon have a name? Or a website? Or a book with rules? What will it give for fealty?
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What color is this invisible dragon?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Max likes to argue from the POV that ANYTHING could be true.

Well ... couldn't it???



Well, will you worship the Invisible Dragon in my Garage? It demands your fealty...


Does the Invisible Dragon have a name? Or a website? Or a book with rules? What will it give for fealty?

What color is this invisible dragon?
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I know this one... It's the color of glass.

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