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The CommonHater is doing so many huge things for humanity and he still has the time to come to GLP to shit on every thread he enters.
 Quoting: User # 78/68

It's time to play "Spot The Irony!"

Who the fuck, besides Dr Postspam, do you think believes this shit?
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Who the fuck do you think doesn't believe it? Have you polled the members of GLP? How do you know it's a lie? You claim Hap is a "fake astronomer" and yet you run away every time you've been given the opportunity to meet him in person.

This guy is a quack ... his own words PROVE this! His own time here at GLP on the threads he visits verify this. He's got a screw loose. Such an important man!
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Isn't it funny how that statement applies more to you than anyone else in this thread?

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The weekend at GLP seems lonely w/o you guys...
Your day will come...
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Indeed my friend! Where others beat around the bush, you grab a chain saw and remove the "hiding place" completely - exposing these debunker shills to the full LIGHT OF DAY, and turning everyone in the vicinity into an eyewitness for TRUTH - that truth being that these shills may be many things, but SINCERE is not one of them!!! What "sincere" fuckstick really thinks anyone is going to buy an "important" technology pioneer spending his evenings emptying his bowels on his keyboard???? (And when he's done, wiping his ass with his mouse!)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Max, since you believe that statement and are so buddy/buddy with Luser...why don't you see your way out of this thread and go hang out with Luser on Nancy's threads. They could use the help. You're such a joke - you claim you're here to promote the truth but every post you make is full of lies. You make it more than obvious that the only fence you're sitting on is the one in Nancy's front yard...waiting for your next shilling assignment. Luser has been emptying his bowels through his keyboard for years and yet you support his behavior but shun it from anyone else. You couldn't be any more obvious.

BTW, what makes you think anyone will believe Luser owns two successful businesses with an attitude like his?

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I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate and ask if anyone has counted up ZT's pages for the same time period as the DB thread has been going on...

???
Your day will come...
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I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate and ask if anyone has counted up ZT's pages for the same time period as the DB thread has been going on...

???
 Quoting: GreenTabasco


Andrew's thread ALONE is catching up!

nerofail
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Andrew's thread ALONE is catching up!

nerofail
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

But Andrew's thread isn't ZT. You fail.

s_bus
zwrong2

Oh, and funny how you keep using that smilie and yet this thread is still here. We're only 15 pages away from 500...a number you said we wouldn't reach.

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It is also quite amusing and telling: what posts ZM responds to, and what posts he does NOT.

Wouldn't you agree?
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I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate and ask if anyone has counted up ZT's pages for the same time period as the DB thread has been going on...

???


Andrew's thread ALONE is catching up!

 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


What are you talking about? All of Andrew's (the wanker) threads are moribund.
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Hi everyone. I found this on National Geographic, and the article gives a direct link to ZetaTalk.

2012: Six End-of-the-World Myths Debunked
Brian Handwerk
for National Geographic News
November 6, 2009

2012 MYTH 4
Planet X Is on a Collision Course With Earth

Some say it's out there: a mysterious Planet X, aka Nibiru, on a collision course with Earth—or at least a disruptive flyby.

A direct hit would obliterate Earth, it's said. Even a near miss, some fear, could shower Earth with deadly asteroid impacts hurled our way by the planet's gravitational wake.

Could such an unknown planet really be headed our way in 2012, even just a little bit?

Well, no.

"There is no object out there," NASA astrobiologist Morrison said. "That's probably the most straightforward thing to say."

The origins of this theory actually predate widespread interest in 2012. Popularized in part by a woman who claims to receive messages from extraterrestrials, the Nibiru doomsday was originally predicted for 2003.

"If there were a planet or a brown dwarf or whatever that was going to be in the inner solar system three years from now, astronomers would have been studying it for the past decade and it would be visible to the naked eye by now," Morrison said.

"It's not there."

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

Just thought I'd share it with all of you. The article is fairly interesting, IMO.
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Looks like Nancy's thread was boring enough it didn't even generate comments here...

Unless she was banning like mad, which I suppose is possible.

Anyhow, good weekend to all.
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So many events happen now that strenghten my confidence in what Zetas say. But all this story with Dark Twin is one of the moments sometimes confusing me. There is a term in astronomy – “covering” – when one celestial body covers another when passing in front of it. At some days hundreds of astronomers watch in telescopes waiting how a tiny asteroid covers a star in a blink – they know approximately when this moment can happen.
Taking into account this, I suppose DT covers enough sector of sky for thousands of people to suspect something is not right. There are no any claims about this as yet… Please, comment this situation.

SOZT
Venus is seen as a Morning or Evening star, so tiny it appears at the distance it is from Earth. The Dark Twin is the same size as Venus, so is NOT a huge object that would eclipse stars. Even if this were to happen, the astronomical community would conclude that some untracked asteroid has eclipsed the star. Unless and until the powers that control the astronomical community, via threats and grants and national security oaths and the like, determine that the Dark Twin is to be admitted, this will be the case.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Sorry, I did see this particular bit of ridiculousness over on Nancy's thread...

Some untracked asteroid, eh? Naw, that wouldn't make the community go CRAZY trying to find it. Just one of those everyday astronomical things...

And I want to see the Amateur Astronomer National Security Oath, please...
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Looks like Nancy's thread was boring enough it didn't even generate comments here...

Unless she was banning like mad, which I suppose is possible.

Anyhow, good weekend to all.
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I was busy doing other things. I got a Western Digital 1TB Network Drive, an 802.11n router and two 802.11n NICs. I spent the afternoon trying to get them all to play nice. It took until 8:30 to get it all straightened out. The first issue centered around the router. It would work fine until I plugged the network drive in. Then it would keep resetting itself. On a hunch, I installed the power supply that came with it. Our previous router was by Cisco and the new one is very similar so I just used the same power supply I already had plugged in. Turns out that the old router only required .5A of current while the new one required up to 2A...which its power supply was able to provide. The other one was not. After that, I spent a little time getting the network drive configured. That didn't take as long. But I'm still working on a sharing issue. Both of our PCs are on the same home group. My wife's PC can see mine...but I can't see hers for some reason.
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I was busy doing other things. I got a Western Digital 1TB Network Drive, an 802.11n router and two 802.11n NICs. I spent the afternoon trying to get them all to play nice. It took until 8:30 to get it all straightened out. The first issue centered around the router. It would work fine until I plugged the network drive in. Then it would keep resetting itself. On a hunch, I installed the power supply that came with it. Our previous router was by Cisco and the new one is very similar so I just used the same power supply I already had plugged in. Turns out that the old router only required .5A of current while the new one required up to 2A...which its power supply was able to provide. The other one was not. After that, I spent a little time getting the network drive configured. That didn't take as long. But I'm still working on a sharing issue. Both of our PCs are on the same home group. My wife's PC can see mine...but I can't see hers for some reason.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

I am very leary of using any p/s thats from something else without first both checking the output voltage and amperage/current rating and waveform

even if the outplug is the same (likely to be 1 of about 4 `normal' types to choose from), the plugpack can be either dc or ac output, the voltage must match (to a certain degree I use my elec knowledge to know what is a usable voltage range for a type of device..)
however even then if the voltage and waveform type is right, the current/wattage output shown may be wrong- a good rule of thumb is that the plugpack must always be equal to or greater than the (A,mA, mW or W)

then there is the type- unregulated, regulated, switchmode, full or half wave recitified all have different properties, some are interchangable, others aren't

basically my advice is- unles you know your way around electrics (basically you need at least a multimeter and the knowledge to use it) then dont go using any plugpack from any other device - even if the voltage is the same...

(a 12v1a dc + centre pin unregulated plug pack could in many cases replace a 12vdc 1A switchmode- BUT it also has the potential to damage some electronics- where the switchmode can safely replace the unregulated supply in most (but not all) cases-it for eg cant replace the unregulated supply in anything that has a 12v sla battery inside (eg an alarm panel)

best left to the experts- oe be prepared to spend some more $ if you get it wrong...
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I was busy doing other things. I got a Western Digital 1TB Network Drive, an 802.11n router and two 802.11n NICs. I spent the afternoon trying to get them all to play nice. It took until 8:30 to get it all straightened out. The first issue centered around the router. It would work fine until I plugged the network drive in. Then it would keep resetting itself. On a hunch, I installed the power supply that came with it. Our previous router was by Cisco and the new one is very similar so I just used the same power supply I already had plugged in. Turns out that the old router only required .5A of current while the new one required up to 2A...which its power supply was able to provide. The other one was not. After that, I spent a little time getting the network drive configured. That didn't take as long. But I'm still working on a sharing issue. Both of our PCs are on the same home group. My wife's PC can see mine...but I can't see hers for some reason.

I am very leary of using any p/s thats from something else without first both checking the output voltage and amperage/current rating and waveform

even if the outplug is the same (likely to be 1 of about 4 `normal' types to choose from), the plugpack can be either dc or ac output, the voltage must match (to a certain degree I use my elec knowledge to know what is a usable voltage range for a type of device..)
however even then if the voltage and waveform type is right, the current/wattage output shown may be wrong- a good rule of thumb is that the plugpack must always be equal to or greater than the (A,mA, mW or W)

then there is the type- unregulated, regulated, switchmode, full or half wave recitified all have different properties, some are interchangable, others aren't

basically my advice is- unles you know your way around electrics (basically you need at least a multimeter and the knowledge to use it) then dont go using any plugpack from any other device - even if the voltage is the same...

(a 12v1a dc + centre pin unregulated plug pack could in many cases replace a 12vdc 1A switchmode- BUT it also has the potential to damage some electronics- where the switchmode can safely replace the unregulated supply in most (but not all) cases-it for eg cant replace the unregulated supply in anything that has a 12v sla battery inside (eg an alarm panel)

best left to the experts- oe be prepared to spend some more $ if you get it wrong...
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I couldn't have put it better myself. I gave out a little "eep" when I saw him state he'd used the old PSU without checking it.
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another techie, defzam zero??
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SOZT
You need to read the Orientation section of ZetaTalk, where we describe the two spiritual orientation. Then the Rules section where we detail how the orientations are SEPARATED after 3rd density and only interact under tight rules of engagement. We, in the STO communities, do not oppress. On the prison planets where the STS are forced to live with each other, this is the norm, but they have make their bed by their past lives, their own choices.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


We, in the STO communities, do not oppress

I thought this little titbit is worthy of inclusion- simply as it shows the gulf between what she practices and preaches

in her own thread, first page is

Chat Ground Rules!
This Live ZetaTalk chat is to give the public the opportunity to ask legitimate and pertinent questions. It is NOT so that
1. debunking campaigns can hold sway,
2. or to throw out insults,
3. or to insist endlessly that the world is normal,
4. or to attempt distraction from business at hand.

This is not about censorship but about allowing those who want to participate in the conversation to do so for the designated time, without being harassed and without constant distractions.

If a question has been asked and answered in previous threads or existing ZetaTalk, I will say so and attempt to point to the location of the answers. REPEATEDLY asking the question will be considered trolling.

REPEATED insistence that all is normal, such as the weather or location of the moon, when others have noted and participants are noting things are NOT normal, will be considered spamming.

People who are only here to disrupt and attack and troll and spam will have their posts removed and repeated offenses will lead to banning for a period of 24 hours.
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


No oppression there much hey Nancy??

shut up or be banned- them's your choices...

and wander over to the Ning- Nancy has been swinging the ban hammer there with wild abandon- almost all the original regulars have either been banned by nancy or have left in disgust

I gave it 3 months- I have revised that down to a month before only Nancy, Gerald and her socks are left (they are quite easy to spot)

wonder how long before Gerald himself joins Ele in a `spot of camping' and she takes it over completely?
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Greetings From New York!
Question about communcations during and after the PS. I am a HAM operator and feel a very strong sense that I will play a role in communications via HAM HF airwaves. Will this be a good way to communicate? If so how?

SOZT
Short wave radio is used today for emergency conditions, as it can function without the need for extremely high towers and high voltage equipment. Short wave, or Ham radio when in the hands of amateurs, does requires a relay method but can utilize the ionosphere and even the potential of Moon bounce, thus can span a long ways. It is also possible for short wave to be relayed from one contact with an antenna to another, passing a message along. We have advised that those wishing to communicate after the pole shift get familiar with the technology, get the equipment necessary to be a player, and learn the terminology and protocols. This is likely to be the ONLY means of long distance communication.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

It's obvious that the money donated to the Troubled Times/Zetatalk group for 2 way radio gear was either never used in actually getting any, or if they did,Nancy has never actually used it...

first sentence- incorrect- it is (very) occassionally used in emergency situations, much more commonly used for general chatting (officially frowned upon) and general experimenting (and doesnt require high towers either, i use my clothesline as an antenna purely due to renting restrictions (hidden antenna- what the real estate agent doesnt know...can't get me kicked out...)

second sentence- shows she has never used any 2way radios (ham or otherwise) or if she did, had no idea what she was doing apart from talking into a `magic black box'- she's extremely confused as to the requirements of the various frequencies used (h.f, vhf, uhf) their ranges and requirements... Shortwave (which isnt ham or amateur radio btw (real amateur radio operators dont really like the term ham radio in most places either) is a grouping of radio wavelengths (of which there are several amateur radio `bands' or groups of frequencies where they are allowed to transmit
There are other bands at various frequencies up into the microwave/shf regions

Funnily enough she seems to actually have the whole repeater/ frequency thing completely backwards. Shortwave has very few repeaters indeed (usually on packet radio bands only), in fact shortwave doesnt have many repeaters due to the fact that it is extremely long range, and thus DOESN'T require repeaters...
As the frequency rises away from `shortwave' into h.f, vhf, uhf,shf the range drops (commonly called line of sight) and thus as you get into the 147mhz/2m amateur bands and above it becomes more and more `if you cant see it with a pair of binoculars, you wont hear it either (with certain rare exceptions such as ducting, meteor bounce etc)- which is where repeaters (2 types- simplex and duplex) start to become common- well away from the shortwave bands indeed

Sorry for the length of this post, but it's something as the proud owner of a Washington on 28 (whistles innocently), a Kenwood ts180s shortwave set(base and occasional mobile), and a base station tr9130 2m rig and a very elderly Kenwood tr2600 in the ute as a mobile/h.h. feel quite offended by- the `technobabble' that Nancy tries to use on the general public to try and bluff her way through.

It's a quite complex hobby that I indulge myself in, and she obviously has no FUCKING idea apart from a few `buzzwords' she's (IMHO) picked up from a local paper report, written by a reporter with no more knowledge than Nancy, but a great deal more brains...

sorry for the language but she is a loon, trying (rather unsucessfully) to pretend to be a newage snakeoil salesman

`if you cant baffle them with science, blind them with bullshit' seems to be a saying Nancy has taken to heart- in a big way....
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The Dark Twin is the same size as Venus, so is NOT a huge object that would eclipse stars.
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That is funny! the original "Dark Twin" was supposed to be a "copy" of Earth, otherwise it would be on a different orbital plane!

I told Nancy how to fix the problem.


Zetas put in a hyper-ramp so the "dark twin" can hop over the stalled earth and go around again!
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Greetings From New York!
Question about communcations during and after the PS. I am a HAM operator and feel a very strong sense that I will play a role in communications via HAM HF airwaves. Will this be a good way to communicate? If so how?


in fact if a `ham' wrote that- I'll eat all my sw radio...

THAT will be a nancy sock- for starters anyone who actually has a legally allocated district 2 callsign wouldn't have to ask `how' to communicate via h.f bands- they would already know what equipement operates on what bands and might ask what bands might be open

asking if its a good way to communicate and if so how- well thats like watching someone who claims to be a F1 car driver getting in one and asking- is this car fast?- and how do I start it?

Thats when anyone who actually deals in the subject goes `WTF' and thinks this person is full of bovine excretement....

and when they get in a Ford Fiesta and ask the same thing... you KNOW they are full of it...

(btw for the people out there that are unaware of the liscencing laws regarding the use of amateur radio- basically its not like going out and buying a cellphone...)

throw that idea away straight away

you have to know (depending on liscance class) at the minimum) enough elctronics and electrics to be able to design and construct an antenna and a transmitter and reciever basically from scratch (electronics handbook in one hand, soldering iron in the other)

then as the various licences advance- so does your required knowledge

I cant morse at over 5wpm- so my current liscence isnt a full liscence
I can however fully understand the behaviour of the electronics inside that `magic black box' and even build my own from scratch (indeed some of my gear is homebrew)

and I certainly know the various hf tx/rx characteristics and even in a `poleshift' I wouldnt have to ask `how' I would have to do it....

(it would be worth registering just to have the `rolleyes' smilie here)
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It's obvious that the money donated to the Troubled Times/Zetatalk group for 2 way radio gear was either never used in actually getting any, or if they did,Nancy has never actually used it...

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Here are the details.


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2000 has been $16,737 in stock and over $28,903 in cash toward Short Wave Internet classes,
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Short Wave

Objectives:
demonstrates communications when satellites and phone lines are down
create an operational network to function pre and post pole shift
test and advise upon equipment
provide on-line Self Study and short wave packet relay practice sessions
provide equipment for hubs where required

Site:
(various)

Principals:
Jan as coordinator

Status:
Operational by Jan, 2000

Funding:
$250 for shipping transmitter and antenna
$7,905 for intercontinental antenna plus 20% for misc related costs, deferred
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Here are the details.


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2000 has been $16,737 in stock and over $28,903 in cash toward Short Wave Internet classes,
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Short Wave

Objectives:
demonstrates communications when satellites and phone lines are down
create an operational network to function pre and post pole shift
test and advise upon equipment
provide on-line Self Study and short wave packet relay practice sessions
provide equipment for hubs where required

Site:
(various)

Principals:
Jan as coordinator

Status:
Operational by Jan, 2000

Funding:
$250 for shipping transmitter and antenna
$7,905 for intercontinental antenna plus 20% for misc related costs, deferred
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

hmmm

well i would ask why this `new' high powered station hasnt appeared on air anytime then
because in 2000 16 grand would buy a station that I would be on air 24/7 with...
and an 8 grand antenna???
it was in 94 I put up a 30m tower with rotating dual polarity cubical quad and a 3 km longwire- that cost me just over 2 grand in total

91 my first antenna was a 300m longwire 15m high- cost me just over 500 bucks in total

man I would LOVE to have some of this gear they supposedly bought- because it must have been the absolute best of the best at the prices they are claiming they spent

I did notice a distinct lack of actual broadcast times and frequencies used by them- has any zetatalk actually ever appeared on this `drools' mega sw shack?
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Feel free to quote ANY poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.

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No need to quote.

Anything enclosed by SOZT and EOZT is automatically trash and drivel.

SOZT = start of zany trash

EOZT = end of zany trash
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2000 has been $16,737 in stock and over $28,903 in cash toward Short Wave Internet classes,
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Short Wave

Objectives:
demonstrates communications when satellites and phone lines are down
create an operational network to function pre and post pole shift
test and advise upon equipment
provide on-line Self Study and short wave packet relay practice sessions
provide equipment for hubs where required

Site:
(various)

Principals:
Jan as coordinator

Status:
Operational by Jan, 2000

Funding:
$250 for shipping transmitter and antenna
$7,905 for intercontinental antenna plus 20% for misc related costs, deferred
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

um almost 30 grand in shortwave classes???

excuse me- but I call complete and utter b.s. on that one....

thats over the entire cost of a electronics degree in 2000- and that would certainly be well in advance of what is required for any class of liscence

I know for a fact that I only had to pay just over 200 bucks in total for all my classes and exams

(a complete newbie with enough intelligence to know the difference electrically between a light is on and a light is off- they would pay more- about 600 from memory is what one of the people that did my exams paid for a complete electronics course sufficient to pass their limited lisc on the first try)
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I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate and ask if anyone has counted up ZT's pages for the same time period as the DB thread has been going on...

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If debunkers don't push Nancy's chat pages, they die at about 5-6 each week, as soon as Nancy stops posting. Her believers don't question or discuss her claims.
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I am very leary of using any p/s thats from something else without first both checking the output voltage and amperage/current rating and waveform
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Considering that both routers were from the same manufacturer, I didn't think there would be that much difference in the amount of power required. Besides, the only real danger is in putting too much voltage into something. You can provide a power supply that provides 50 amps but if the device only needs 2, that's all it will draw.
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another techie, defzam zero??
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I have an AA in Electronics Technology and an AA in Network Systems Administration...working on a BSc in Network Communications Management.
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I am very leary of using any p/s thats from something else without first both checking the output voltage and amperage/current rating and waveform

Considering that both routers were from the same manufacturer, I didn't think there would be that much difference in the amount of power required. Besides, the only real danger is in putting too much voltage into something. You can provide a power supply that provides 50 amps but if the device only needs 2, that's all it will draw.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Ah but CB, manufacturers often change sneakily change polarities on their PSUs. An exciting moment of unexpected pyrotechics in my distant past taught me to always double check the spec, if you intend to use a PSU not supplied with the new gear.

I will grant you it was a spectacular show though, worth it for entertainment value LOL
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Perhaps, but I've found Cisco/Linksys to be consistent on the wiring of their plugs. This router does both 2.4GHz and 5GHz 802.11n at the same time and has far more functionality than the previous one it replaced, which is why it requires a bit more power.
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Why are debunker threads so much more free than Zeta threads, if the debunkers are STS and the Zeta are STO?
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I am very leary of using any p/s thats from something else without first both checking the output voltage and amperage/current rating and waveform

Considering that both routers were from the same manufacturer, I didn't think there would be that much difference in the amount of power required. Besides, the only real danger is in putting too much voltage into something. You can provide a power supply that provides 50 amps but if the device only needs 2, that's all it will draw.
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Like I said before, there is often far more it than just the voltage and current C.B.
even from the same manufacturer, different aged equipement may often have an unregulated supply plugpack, with a new bit it will normally have a switchmode

As an example I have a 12vdc 1A unregulated supply I use here for a trickle charger for a SLA battery. Now despite the fact it SAYS its a 12v plugpack, with an unregulated plugpack such as this- that only applies when its delivering close to its maximum current (ie about 1A), with no load(battery disconnected) the open circuit voltage rises to around 18V, which is high enough that if it was plugged into unprotected electronics could damage them. A regulated or switchmode supply on the other hand could also have 12v1A written on it too- however it might run the electronics quite safely- but it would be useless for use as a tricklecharger like in the alarm panel as its voltage is ALWAYS 12v no matter how little or much current is drawn (up to its maximum that is)

Often older equipement would use an unregulated plugpack, with a regulator chip fitted internally in the device, with the advent of cheap switchmode style plugpacks, the internal reg has become unneccesary and is no longer fitted. plug an older style unregulated plugpack in, and as the load varies the voltage can swing up and down, causing unstable operation and in some cases could even cause failure of chips inside and total device failure

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