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Anonymous Coward User ID: 959637 United Kingdom 05/03/2010 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | current scientific (astronomical including) knowledge is not an ultimate truth - its not the final version of gospel with which we can stop doubting and discovering and preaching it as something written in stone. Quoting: andrewNo scientist would ever say it is. The whole principle of science is to improve and renew theories as evidence mounts. For all its inadequacies however, science is FAR better than the infantile bullshit Nancy comes out with, which frankly is only believable if you have a complete lack of awareness of even the most basic science. You appear to know very little about anything, therefore you are ideal as a Zetatalk follower. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 959637 United Kingdom 05/03/2010 04:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | - Sun is to the SE at noon (few days ago) Quoting: andrew- Sun is extremely bright - couldnt look at it at sunset (few days ago) - Venus is extremely big and bright (last evening) I went and looked for myself and i came back intrigued! You are so hopelessly confused and mentally lost that you are perplexed by EVERYTHING! |
andrew User ID: 959599 Ukraine 05/03/2010 04:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, a swarm of 7+ quakes from the start of this year and Iceland volcano, and disturbed Magnetosphere and rising food prices due to severe weather conditions and natural disasters worldwide is all very REAL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444And none of which point to a physics defying invisible, intangible, undetectable-by-any-traditional-means planet hovering near the Sun. Any more than it points to the invisible dragon in my garage. [link to www.atheistadam.com] look, seismic (quake) activity on the memory of man has been a type of "aftershocks" continuing from the last Passage, plates coming to a rest, stress points ocasionally emerging and eventually giving way and all relaxing and coming to a calm again. it could be said that it has been steadily deminishing in strength and momentum since last pole shift. it was, until PX began its plunge for a next Passage, somewhere in late 70's. since then there was an increase in quakes, and Global Warming and Glaciers and ice caps melting, and Ocean Warming and Rising. There is no explanation for not only increased but even "normal" quake activity. Why would plates drift? why would Atlantic slowly spread and Pacific compress? What would force those plates to ride over or plunge under? There is no viable explanation in human science. There must be an external factor, external force, doing this. Plate movement is not originating from the Earth interior, because it is in balance - why would it suddenly disrupt? Nor do glaciers, CO2, wind turbines or lakes around Equator or gravity or Moon or Sun blasts cause this. THIS is the evidence that an Interloper is in the Solar system, and closer than most think, to cause Earth Torque - gripping the Atlantic Rift, holding it back and thus causing a spread in the Atlantic floor and pileup of the plates, compression in the Pacific. This stress, this pressure will soon manifest in an unexpected way. And it will make mankind ask questions as it is clearly NOT Global Warming! |
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andrew User ID: 959599 Ukraine 05/03/2010 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | - Sun is to the SE at noon (few days ago) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959637- Sun is extremely bright - couldnt look at it at sunset (few days ago) - Venus is extremely big and bright (last evening) I went and looked for myself and i came back intrigued! You are so hopelessly confused and mentally lost that you are perplexed by EVERYTHING! then why is the Sun to the SE at noon? |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 959612 New Zealand 05/03/2010 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zetatalk is a joke. I don't know anybody who doesn't consider it hilariously funny. Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***The problem with Zetards is they are not really adults, mentally speaking, and they have no sense of humour either, so they do not have the capability to understand how absurd Nancy's spiel is. Well actually it has now been proven beyond an element of doubt that you have been blanks since day one there, Melfy. Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
andrew User ID: 959599 Ukraine 05/03/2010 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | current scientific (astronomical including) knowledge is not an ultimate truth - its not the final version of gospel with which we can stop doubting and discovering and preaching it as something written in stone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959637No scientist would ever say it is. The whole principle of science is to improve and renew theories as evidence mounts. For all its inadequacies however, science is FAR better than the infantile bullshit Nancy comes out with, which frankly is only believable if you have a complete lack of awareness of even the most basic science. You appear to know very little about anything, therefore you are ideal as a Zetatalk follower. of course no scientist would ever say this. but mean and act just like that. and the poster was implying just that - using science as a check for reality, and indoctrinating with it anyone who would be allowed a title of scientist. "Please, internalize our sacred knowledge first, and prove to us that you have accepted it as an unquestionable truth, and only then we can grant you a title of **scientist**, so you will be **authorised** to speak in the name of science and allowed to interpret the gospel". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 959627 Germany 05/03/2010 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then why is the Sun to the SE at noon? Quoting: andrewJust use a stellar cartography software to check where it should be at your place during the time you look out and you will see all is fine. A simple homemade sextant would also come handy for that research: [link to www.tecepe.com.br] But I doubt you know how to use one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 959627 Germany 05/03/2010 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder: my girlfriend bursts with laugh during orgasm ??! it happened few rare times. Quoting: andrewand also when she attended meditation camp and they all were told to let go themselves and do whatever they feel: fall down on the floor, scream, run etc whatever, she recalls unstoppable laughing! i wonder what is this? a repressed emotion of joy? (Lusher color test shows latent depression, supressed urge to action) it feel like something Freudian. ah and she also is extremely obsessed with establishing order in the house in general and an obsession with IRONING in particular. it takes extreme and even comical forms. she irons everything that was washed and wont let her little daughter go out of the house if something is not ironed. Freudian thing? what do you think? ^^ I doubt she ever had an orgasm, it's just lulz for her The new improved GLP search function is very nice indeed. |
Returner User ID: 997 United States 05/03/2010 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Village idiot Andrew is amazed that Venus is 'big and bright!' Where the fuck have you been for the last few billion years, Andrew? Venus is ALWAYs big and bright from Earth. You'd know that if you didn't spend every waking moment wanking off in Mom's spare bedroom deep in the heart of communist Dumbfuckistan. |
User # 78/68 User ID: 929830 Canada 05/03/2010 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Village idiot Andrew is amazed that Venus is 'big and bright!' Quoting: Returner 997Where the fuck have you been for the last few billion years, Andrew? Venus is ALWAYs big and bright from Earth. You'd know that if you didn't spend every waking moment wanking off in Mom's spare bedroom deep in the heart of communist Dumbfuckistan. The psychopath speaks once again! You've got some sick shit up there in that head of yours, don't cha? In almost every single post you mention some smear that always includes sexual overtones. You are literally sick in the head, dude! And, this probably means you are battling some kind of your own battle re this. And what I find even weirder ... the fine Dr Postman never ever sanctions you for this. Such a fine moderator he has turned out to be! |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 05/03/2010 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And all the debunkers deserve credit for their valuable input into our successful chat thread. Quoting: andrewNote the fact that large part of this thread is due to Zeta fans coming here and arguing their point here To be fair, you would have to subtact the posts of myself, User, Andrew and FreeStore. When you do that, you'd have less than 400 I'm sure. Yet the information content of your arguments is zero, the same as the validity of zetatalk. Go back to wanking, kid, logical argument is not your strong suit. Of course you can always just stick to your censored zeta chats so you won't have to have your shortcomings aired so openly. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 05/03/2010 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She's just a crazy old lady. Quoting: andrewIf debunkers really think so, which they claim, then what the need to expose her "lies" and trying to prove her wrong all the time and demonstrate it to people wherever possible??? Why would her "lies" be so "dangerous"? For if they are really "lies", people wouldnt "buy" into them. Aside from a handful of congenital idiots and a couple of paid shills and trolls, no one does buy into LIEDer's bullshit. Lets see, what group would you be in? Oh right, idiot. Go back to wanking, kid. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 05/03/2010 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they are really "lies", people wouldnt "buy" into them, unless they are TRUTH! Quoting: andrewYou do not consider that people who buy into ZT are complete and utter retards like you. If you name one person we debunkers can accept (a well known Astronomer or a Nobel-price winner would suffice) who firmly believes in ZT then you have a case. why should you accept a well known Astronomer or a Nobel-price winner, but not for example me, or a lady from Wisconsin, or many many ordinary people at ning? how a well known Astronomer or a Nobel-price winner is closer to the truth of what reality really is, than others? they are the same ordinary people as you, me and everyone else - they havent any special means to know what is truth or not! Tell ya what, wankerboy, why don't you explain the retrograde motion of Mars assuming, as the LIEDer claims, the Earth is halted in its orbit. Be sure to show your math. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 05/03/2010 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I do come on, I see these threads because astronomy interests me, and it is to my advantage that more of the population is scientifically literate, and can understand the basic process of the scientific method. It is also good to demonstrate the logical flaws in such mythologies, to help people build up their own 'baloney detection kit,' which makes life better for everyone. It also allows me to learn about other aspects of astronomy which I am unfamiliar, as I research Nancy's claims and find them wanting, and also allows me to hone my way of explaining those type of phenomena. It exposes flim-flam. Also, it's kind of fun. Quoting: andrewSo there you go. current scientific (astronomical including) knowledge is not an ultimate truth - its not the final version of gospel with which we can stop doubting and discovering and preaching it as something written in stone. the whole tower of scientific knowledge cannot be used as a measure to check for reality against it, to verify new theories and assumptions against it. REALITY itself must serve as such a check, and scientific knowledge must also undergo such a check. As does zetatalk, which failed miserably when tested against reality. Sorry about your cult failing, but that is the way it is, you can't measure up, you fail. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 959627 Germany 05/03/2010 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The psychopath speaks once again! Quoting: User # 78/68You've got some sick shit up there in that head of yours, don't cha? In almost every single post you mention some smear that always includes sexual overtones. You are literally sick in the head, dude! And, this probably means you are battling some kind of your own battle re this. And what I find even weirder ... the fine Dr Postman never ever sanctions you for this. Such a fine moderator he has turned out to be! In case you missed something: my girlfriend and i did put honey on each other and ate it Quoting: andrewi wash once a week / two weeks - in winter i think communism (=socialism) is more just social arrangement sometimes i DO IT to myself in bed, letting it go free where and how it does Thread: "Let me express my extreme point of view..." We ridicule Andyboy because he gave us above info (I guess nobody really wanted to know this personel stuff about him, but he did). Not using this to make fun of him would be like when you put a child in front of a ton of sweet stuff and say "don't touch it". For all eternity Andy will be Sir WankALot on GLP. |
Menow User ID: 935048 United States 05/03/2010 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And all the debunkers deserve credit for their valuable input into our successful chat thread. Quoting: andrewNote the fact that large part of this thread is due to Zeta fans coming here and arguing their point here Wha..?? When has any one of you actually argued a point? You merely stop by to pontificate, now and then, and refuse to respond to points of discussion raised to you. |
Menow User ID: 935048 United States 05/03/2010 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She's just a crazy old lady. Quoting: andrewIf debunkers really think so, which they claim, then what the need to expose her "lies" and trying to prove her wrong all the time and demonstrate it to people wherever possible??? Why would her "lies" be so "dangerous"? For if they are really "lies", people wouldnt "buy" into them. Priceless... You actually think that people never believe lies? Look in the mirror, bub. I expect you (debunks) will say that noone is "buying" into it. Quoting: andrewNo, we are not saying that. Try asking us, rather than putting words into our mouths that you can easily refute. Then, who are you persuading she's "wrong"? Yourselves?! Constantly reassuring yourselves that she's "wrong"... For if she's RIGHT, then what are you to do? Quoting: andrewIf they are really "lies", people wouldnt "buy" into them, unless they are TRUTH! Absurd. If that was true, there would be no need for laws against slander and libel. You're an idiot. And the stubborn and horrible reality for your pack is that people DO "buy" into it: you can see it weekly on ZT Live Chat threads and daily on ning, which you frantically comb through 24/7! Quoting: andrewOops! Debunker Existential Crisis! Oops! Andrew full of shit again! |
Menow User ID: 935048 United States 05/03/2010 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, a swarm of 7+ quakes from the start of this year and Iceland volcano, and disturbed Magnetosphere and rising food prices due to severe weather conditions and natural disasters worldwide is all very REAL. Quoting: andrewAnd none of which point to a physics defying invisible, intangible, undetectable-by-any-traditional-means planet hovering near the Sun. Any more than it points to the invisible dragon in my garage. [link to www.atheistadam.com] look, seismic (quake) activity on the memory of man has been a type of "aftershocks" continuing from the last Passage, plates coming to a rest, stress points ocasionally emerging and eventually giving way and all relaxing and coming to a calm again. it could be said that it has been steadily deminishing in strength and momentum since last pole shift. it was, until PX began its plunge for a next Passage, somewhere in late 70's. How could your precious PX cause quakes on Earth from extreme distances, when planets like Jupiter and Saturn have no such effects from far closer? since then there was an increase in quakes, and Global Warming and Glaciers and ice caps melting, and Ocean Warming and Rising. Quoting: andrewSee above. Same question. There is no explanation for not only increased but even "normal" quake activity. Why would plates drift? why would Atlantic slowly spread and Pacific compress? What would force those plates to ride over or plunge under? There is no viable explanation in human science. Quoting: andrewThere must be an external factor, external force, doing this. Simply because Nancy says so. See above. Same question. Plate movement is not originating from the Earth interior, because it is in balance - why would it suddenly disrupt? Nor do glaciers, CO2, wind turbines or lakes around Equator or gravity or Moon or Sun blasts cause this. Quoting: andrewTHIS is the evidence that an Interloper is in the Solar system, and closer than most think, to cause Earth Torque - gripping the Atlantic Rift, holding it back and thus causing a spread in the Atlantic floor and pileup of the plates, compression in the Pacific. Is is evidence of no such thing, due to the point above about the lack of effects from other passing planets. I'm sure you will ignore this. This stress, this pressure will soon manifest in an unexpected way. And it will make mankind ask questions as it is clearly NOT Global Warming! Quoting: andrewJust make up whatever you want to believe. It's what you're good at. |
Menow User ID: 935048 United States 05/03/2010 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | - Sun is to the SE at noon (few days ago) Quoting: andrew- Sun is extremely bright - couldnt look at it at sunset (few days ago) - Venus is extremely big and bright (last evening) I went and looked for myself and i came back intrigued! You are so hopelessly confused and mentally lost that you are perplexed by EVERYTHING! then why is the Sun to the SE at noon? Where was it supposed to be? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 959945 Germany 05/03/2010 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy (my guess) deleted the "Attention Nancy" thread ... Quoting: DrPostman[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] how desperate she is that she has to do this Actually no. She's a moderator and we don't tolerate attack threads against members and especially against fellow mods. Someone other than Nancy deleted that thread. Criticize her all you want to but I direct attack like that won't be tolerated. OK, Thx Dr. for making this clear ... and my apologys to Nancy for accusing her of something she did not do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 916295 United States 05/03/2010 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I do come on, I see these threads because astronomy interests me, and it is to my advantage that more of the population is scientifically literate, and can understand the basic process of the scientific method. It is also good to demonstrate the logical flaws in such mythologies, to help people build up their own 'baloney detection kit,' which makes life better for everyone. It also allows me to learn about other aspects of astronomy which I am unfamiliar, as I research Nancy's claims and find them wanting, and also allows me to hone my way of explaining those type of phenomena. It exposes flim-flam. Also, it's kind of fun. Quoting: andrewSo there you go. current scientific (astronomical including) knowledge is not an ultimate truth - its not the final version of gospel with which we can stop doubting and discovering and preaching it as something written in stone. the whole tower of scientific knowledge cannot be used as a measure to check for reality against it, to verify new theories and assumptions against it. REALITY itself must serve as such a check, and scientific knowledge must also undergo such a check. Good. Then you should have no trouble pointing us on ONE SINGLE instance of ANY astronomical prediction or claim from all of Zetatalk that has proven to be true, right? Have at it. Let's see what you come up with. Of course, you'll also have to present the evidence that you use to judge that it is indeed REALITY. Using a quote from zetatalk itself obviously doesn't count. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 916295 United States 05/03/2010 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont know about all Nancy's claims - havent checked myself, havent seen Second Sun myself [though once saw what Nancy calls Monster Sun - a fuzzy huge orb above the Sun at sunset], but what ive seen and know is that: Quoting: andrew- Sun is to the SE at noon (few days ago) And this is unusual how? - Sun is extremely bright - couldnt look at it at sunset (few days ago) Quoting: andrewAnd this is unusual how? - Venus is extremely big and bright (last evening) Quoting: andrewAnd this is unusual how? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 916295 United States 05/03/2010 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look, seismic (quake) activity on the memory of man has been a type of "aftershocks" continuing from the last Passage, plates coming to a rest, stress points ocasionally emerging and eventually giving way and all relaxing and coming to a calm again. Quoting: andrewit could be said that it has been steadily deminishing in strength and momentum since last pole shift. it was, until PX began its plunge for a next Passage, somewhere in late 70's. since then there was an increase in quakes, and Global Warming and Glaciers and ice caps melting, and Ocean Warming and Rising. There is no explanation for not only increased but even "normal" quake activity. Why would plates drift? why would Atlantic slowly spread and Pacific compress? What would force those plates to ride over or plunge under? There is no viable explanation in human science. Since you obviously know extremely little of it, how can you possibly make such a judgement? Even the statements above show that you have a truly warped sense of history. Were you born yesterday? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 916295 United States 05/03/2010 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | - Sun is to the SE at noon (few days ago) Quoting: andrew- Sun is extremely bright - couldnt look at it at sunset (few days ago) - Venus is extremely big and bright (last evening) I went and looked for myself and i came back intrigued! You are so hopelessly confused and mentally lost that you are perplexed by EVERYTHING! then why is the Sun to the SE at noon? Are you claiming that it should NOT be? If so, then where do YOU think it SHOULD be? |
Returner User ID: 997 United States 05/03/2010 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's obviously an idiot in the most literal sense of the word. I doubt he's capable of grasping even the simplest astronomical concepts. Luckily for the human race, it appears his chances of ever reproducing are slim. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74444 United States 05/03/2010 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You shouldn't take EITHER'S word for anything. You should go see for yourself. Quoting: andrewAnd i absolutely agree with that! Then GO DO IT! And when you find Nancy's claims seem in error, CHALLENGE her on them! - Sun is to the SE at noon (few days ago) Quoting: andrewCan GOTO telescopes track the Sun? Are sextant readings still telling you where you are on Earth? Sundials still working? [/quote:andrew] - Sun is extremely bright - couldnt look at it at sunset (few days ago) Have cameras worldwide needed to change their traditional settings? Checked with a light meter? Checked the spectrum of sunlight with a boring old prism against the past? These aren't hard things to do! - Venus is extremely big and bright (last evening) Quoting: andrewCan GOTO telescopes track Venus? Do you have access to records to show that it has never been this big and bright before? Checked with any astronomers -- amateur or otherwise? I went and looked for myself and i came back intrigued! Quoting: andrewExcellent. Now take the NEXT step. TEST your observations. Figure out ways to FALSIFY yourself, and CATCH yourself when not thinking critically. When Nancy tells you the Earth is halted in orbit, demand answers from her as to why the SLEW of obvious physical changes that would result from such a REMARKABLE event aren't apparent. Ask HER for ways of falsifying HER OWN claims. You won't get that. You will simply be chucked into the "Debunker" bin. Test it, and see. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 959612 New Zealand 05/03/2010 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, a swarm of 7+ quakes from the start of this year and Iceland volcano, and disturbed Magnetosphere and rising food prices due to severe weather conditions and natural disasters worldwide is all very REAL. Quoting: andrewWell, Andy Boy, assuming I used your zetacultie logic that all these naturally occurring events are caused solely by the doomsday rogue planet of zetababble. That would mean that the infamous no show huge rogue planet has been with us throughout recorded history and beyond and has never ever left our inner Solar System. The infamous rogue planet has been hiding "behind"(lol) our Sun for each and every year causing all manner of natural chaos. Geez Andrew get a bloody clue already will ya. And get back to us when you actually have some real hard evidence of your doomsday rogue planet and not just more of your pissing in the wind crapola...... Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
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