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God I've missed this forum.

I was hoping to get the thread's opinion on a little introduction to ZetaTalk I've written on my blog. Have I missed any major points? I think I've just about covered it all, but I've got a lingering feeling that I've neglected to mention some of the really entertaining bits...

[link to nwodisinfo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 698702


Here is an excerpt from AC 698702's blog. Worth checking out!


"So there may have been some collateral damage from the Great White Lie. They’re now saying that it’s going to happen sometime before 2012 but can’t be more specific; otherwise, if the governments of the world knew when it was going to happen, they would immediately declare martial law, trapping everyone in cities and slaughtering them en masse via gassing and carpet-bombing. Why? Who knows.

But, then again, the world’s governments do know about it and are keeping it from the public through a conspiracy of silence and media suppression. But they can’t know about it, because our understanding of physics is all wrong, gravity includes a force of repulsion, Earth is pushed around in its orbit by “sweeping arms of the sun,” and so on. But now NASA has decided that the public should know, and their new strategy is to release coded messages in press releases and drop subtle hints to the public through mass media while still overtly denying everything. For instance, Hale-Bopp did not actually exist; it was really a distant exploding star, but NASA told us it was a comet so that we wouldn’t think it was Planet X. Or something."

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We'll see what happens with her threads, but I think keeping a parallel thread showing the science that Nancy chooses to ignore is a good idea, too.

Besides, those things are fun to explain!
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Yet, i am eager to learn WHAT will be the result - funny expecations here...;-)
(from 17230)

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Guess we find different things funny.

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 Quoting: The Commentator

ha.... yes, i principle you are right - in spite it is funny i cant laugh about the old hag as well.
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Sorta tangential -- Was the TERRIBLE movie "IMPACT" broadcast where you were tonight? It had SO much bad science in it I laughed out loud several times.

Seems the Moon was hit by a brown dwarf (sound familiar?) which lodged in its core and thus the Moon was spiraling down. In the twenty minutes I watched it, they sent a whole bunch of nuclear missiles into a big crack on the Moon to...wait for it...break it into smaller pieces. Because that would certainly solve the problem....

Anyway, it was REALLY bad. But I expect there will be some crowing about TPTB letting out drip and drabs of information to slowly inform the public that they've been halted in orbit for five or so years.

Or something.
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BTW, we might want to suspend the boycott for just one day,
July 18th, just to throw a wrench into her claims about us.


That is a good idea. I have lots of good questions for Nancy, tho I am sure I risk 24 hour banishment by asking them. The key is to behave ourselves, not allow them to bait us into a smilie war or insults. Just present questions and stick to the subject. Let them rant and insult all they like and not be dragged into the mudslinging.


It will be funny to see her explain why we would suspend the
boycott for just 24 hours. She'll have to come up with quite
a lie to excuse that one.
 Quoting: DrPostman

chuckle....
masters order ?
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I guess the boycott is because we were "getting so bad at debunking..."

Kinda amusing -- particularly as they still fail to address so many points that belie Nancy's claims. Duncan Kunz made an appearance on this thread, and I named just a few... but please feel free to add to them.

This is the REAL achievement of our boycott, Imo. Nancy's threads have lost ALL meaningful discussion/debate and the traffic flow has crawled to a virtual halt.

Perhaps this is a naive question, but was there ever any "meaningful discussion" in any of Nancy's threads?

Again, maybe I should review her threads again, this time placing myself on the right energy level. On the other hand, I suppose I should wait for the galactic alignment first.
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz


Well, you won't have to wait long, since the Galactic Alignment happens every year...

[link to www.youtube.com]

Sometimes the discussion on Nancy thread yields some cool, meaningful, stuff (though rarely from the believers). There were the discussions on the impossibility of accurate starwatching and astrophotography with the Earth's PX caused figure eight wobble every six hours or so (which led to Hap's excellent discussion about his photos...)

[link to www.machunter.org]

There was the talk about Foucualt Pendulums and other home experiments that prove the Earth is moving normally (which Nancy never successfully addressed...)

[link to science-design.com]

Besides more talk on GOTO telescopes, there was Nancy's entire rejection of astronavigation, including the ancient Hawaiian techniques that have no way to compensate for a supposed halted Earth... (She went so far as to say that modern Hawaiians duplicating the journey were FAKING it... which, I would advise, not to say to their faces...)

[link to pvs.kcc.hawaii.edu]
[link to pvs.kcc.hawaii.edu]

There were the startrails photos and timelapse photos of the sky moving normally, which again weren't addressed (and Nancy went so far as to call Startrails a facility, and never admitted her error...) and when believers are asked to use such techniques to photo the wobble they utterly refuse...

[link to photo.net]
[link to images.google.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to vimeo.com]


There were bits of real physics that got discussed, such as how much energy would be required to halt the Earth and start it up again (Funny, I don't FEEL molten...)

[link to www.newscientist.com]

There are others I am forgetting -- I am sure other posters can remind me. Wasn't there an old list of things the Zetas would not address, sort of like the infamous #78/68 list?

And it's amusing that the believers are using their precious time on that largely debunker-free thread, now seven pages long, to CONTINUE to discuss debunkers, rather than discuss the merits of PX, which is what they claimed they wanted to do...
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There are others I am forgetting -- I am sure other posters can remind me. Wasn't there an old list of things the Zetas would not address, sort of like the infamous #78/68 list?

And it's amusing that the believers are using their precious time on that largely debunker-free thread, now seven pages long, to CONTINUE to discuss debunkers, rather than discuss the merits of PX, which is what they claimed they wanted to do...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330

I don't believe they ever really addressed the accuracy of ancient solstice markers like Stonehenge and that thing in Ireland, in spite of the wobble - some cool pics came out of that, but no explanation beyond "it's a conspiracy."
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There are others I am forgetting -- I am sure other posters can remind me. Wasn't there an old list of things the Zetas would not address, sort of like the infamous #78/68 list?

And it's amusing that the believers are using their precious time on that largely debunker-free thread, now seven pages long, to CONTINUE to discuss debunkers, rather than discuss the merits of PX, which is what they claimed they wanted to do...

I don't believe they ever really addressed the accuracy of ancient solstice markers like Stonehenge and that thing in Ireland, in spite of the wobble - some cool pics came out of that, but no explanation beyond "it's a conspiracy."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 698702

The only answer Nancy ever gave is that the Zetas tilt the earth to ensure that these events still happen so we have the so called "element of doubt" and don't go crazy. Of course this is preposterous, but apparently a few people like Andrew and Burkettgirl find this to be a sensible explanation.

There are some structures, like the solstice device in Xochicalco, Mexico that are so precise that they would just plain not work if the alignment of the earth and sun were even slightly off. What I don't get is that if the Zetas can move the earth to simulate the seasons and hide that the earth is stalled in the "September position" for the past few years, why can't they just move us out of the path of Planet X?. But such are the inconsistencies of Nancy's planet X fantasy.
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yes_sir them bumptards over on the zetachat thread better get to work alot harder. The dramatic decline in traffic; replies; and interesting interaction has become glaringly obvious to ALL at GLP.
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I don't believe they ever really addressed the accuracy of ancient solstice markers like Stonehenge and that thing in Ireland, in spite of the wobble - some cool pics came out of that, but no explanation beyond "it's a conspiracy."


Nancy made a lame attempt once by claiming that all the people
at Stonehenge were too drunk and that Newgrange didn't allow
enough people (only 20 per solstice). You can't get much lamer
than that.
 Quoting: DrPostman

She is continuously producing one blunder after the other, one better than the last.


The little self-proclaimed culties previous blunders:
Thread: ZETAMAX Claims 9-11 WTC Connection: I Say "PROVE IT!"
(the Zeatamx 9/11 bullshit from 2007)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 13

[link to www.www.godlikeproductions.com]

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 17 (Page 27)
(N. lists her failed predictions (p5), Hybrids,)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 24 (Page 22)
(moon does not rotate)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 31 (Page 23)
(vivid, welcomed memories to the kite)
[link to 64.233.179.104]
(Googles copy of the kite site on 25.may 2009)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 7 (Page 25)
(The Wobble claim, Zetamax writing "ZT")
[link to apod.nasa.gov]
The origin of the picture:
[link to www.pinholephotography.org]
(that kills the wobble claim once and for all, because it covers the daytime of half a year…)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 14 (Page 17)
(Wobble claim, Freestore proves N. wrong)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 21 (Page 21)
(The Fence Shitter, N. insulting disabled, India borders Russia)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 28 (Page 9)
(aircraft "stalling" engines, Nancy sueing the pilots, Nancy claiming engine stall, GPS stationary, communication errors instead of 100 % accuracy)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 7 (Page 7)
(Zetas not farting, N. changes GPS Post)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 14 (Page 17)
(Wobble: pinhole photography, N. is dogkiller, financial issues)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 21 (Page 7)
(Nancy commenting Cologne Building collapse question - failure!, the equinox excuse, N. playing planet marble)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 21 (Page 14)
(cologne building collapse expl. Failure)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 28 (Page 5)
(Nancy herself proves the wobble claim wrong, Venus transit blunder, light bending, repulsion force, freestore prove wrong, Zetamax reveals to be Nancy, Zetamax 911 story)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 4 (Page 2)
(Tail of PX IS visible, Earth farts, atmosphere stripped away)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 11 (Page 4)
(astronomers conspiracy, "Cult" being harassed, "Star Trails facilitiy", repulsion force self debunk of Nancy, Nancy "cleaning" the thread, new wobble whopper, Nancy editing ZetaTalk )
Another anti-wobble proof:
[link to apod.nasa.gov]
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 18 (Page 38)
("not on a 6 "(should be end 2008), NancyMax writes to "her fans", Nancymax admits Zetatalk edited, the Chiffre No 1 (page38), Max slipping into Nancy again "how can i be wrong?")
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 25 (Page 4)
(Max admits no poleshift in 2003 (!))
[link to www.badastronomy.com]
just to remeber - facts about the soho camera
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 2 (Page 5)
Nancy slips identity to max (p5,p8!), final exposure of "Nax",
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 9 (Page 3)
(astronomers ALL silenced (yawn), Elle=Nancy ID Repost (p21), Max infringes Zetas copyright ;-), Nancy posts as zetamax repost (p25), "expertise is irrelevant" (p27), another elle= Nancy ID repost (p29)
Thread: ZetaTalk Video Clips – NEW on May 16 – Pandemics, Second Sun, and the Coverup (Page 2)
(Video Nonsense from the queen of Bullshit)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 16 (Page 2)
(No PX pictures (p9),Claude Haigener Suicide prediction failure (p11), Nancy stole sun Picture (p12), nancy mixes up with Zeta (p12), Nancy admitting about socks (p15)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 23 (Page 2)
(elle = Nancy reposts, elle is a neighbour (p17), banned elle posted to unban elle (repost), mixing servers during sockpuppeting (p19), Max admist no astronomical orediction came true (p27), the bith of zites follower (679804)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 30 (Page 4)
(funny cropcircles (p5), zeta answers a "to Nancy" post(p11), no more 100 % accuracy claimed,
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
(Air Franc 447, Mr. Shackleford on stage (max, be careful),
"Again, you are a sick person for using this unfortunate event to promote your idiotic planet eX crap","delusional almost to the point of being a danger to society"
"The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist. "
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 6 (Page 6)
"SOZT
The only contradiction is in your mind. Man’s “Conservation of Energy” rule is just another human rule that is nonsensical. Nature is not under man’s rules...."", proud of loosing (p17)"
"debunkers" decide to ignore nancys thread for one month ending 16th July, List of Sun pictures without PX (p22)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 13
"More proof the debunkers live in fear and use these kinds of words "death" to relay their message." Chuckle, "Magnetic Trimesters",
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
(Official Debunker thread) Repost of Nancys Dec-RA gaffe (p12),TCs wonderful Nancy desription (p16), "On July 22, PX will be revealed to all . . ." (p17), Zetamax: "And where is the evidence for this? Link please"
Zetamax: "I'll move it up a day - if there is no evidence of PX by December 30, 2011 - I'll concede and a make a dinner reservation at a Ruth's Chris in South Carolina." (p28), Maxy claims to be "in a mission" (p42)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 20 (Page 6)
SOZT..get a planetarium program and study….EOZT (pg4)
Thread: ZetaTalk on DC Metro Crash
(The Metro Crash),"This is just another example of the "Zeta circus clowns" cashing in on other peoples misery…", Nancys prediction of cause wrong again
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 27 (Page 3)
"can the astronauts on the ISS see planet x? SOZT Yes EOZT", "PX rises before sun rises"

Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
230 days gone, 916 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
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SOZT
There are three trimesters in a year. You’ve obviously not done your homework. Trimesters end in December, April, or August. If you were SMART about this you would be thinking about your target climate, and preparing for that. One would assume you to be prepared for your current climate. If you were SMART you would have researched what the pole shift involves, and how much warning you will have during the last weeks. Let us give you a hint. It’s more than the few minutes you would need to put on some warm clothing.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

how arrogant, how stupid, how picky, how aggressive....

That from a self-proclaimed STO which is in real an attention craiving STS-hypocrite.....

which can still not solve the riddle of

Nancy ace will tell rueful of being historic as moon renders or receiver traces almighty popcorn trips monday night to Zetamax Mercury swing repulsions
#-------------------------------
And WHOEVER solves this, he may NOT publish the solution, but just tell he got it, and may supply a proof by coding something the same way.
67 days ZT not solved
1 debunker solvers accepted (Oldsmobile)
#-------------------------------
Hints will be provided every 25 days
Hint No. 1: The riddle CAN be solved, and you WILL know if your solution is right. (everybody doing it can be proud)
Hint No. 2: Where did the riddle appear first? (everybody doing it should be proud)
(from now on, every answer cannot be assumed to be sourcing from "Zetas")
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PX killed the King.

Socky's reply Perhaps! In an indirect way. Consider, he had mountains of debt - some of that due to the current economic crisis, which is a result of food shortages from climate changes due to ... PLANET X! All this of course caused stress beyond what he might normally have experienced. So to so that "PX killed the King" is not as far fetched as it might appear at first glance!!

how do you come up with this bullshit?

didnt they say he pretty much died as a reaction do a medicin?


Socky's reply Yes - a *pain* medication. He could have been taking it for stress, or some other condition that could have been "aggravated" by the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system. The autopsy should tell us more.
 Quoting: ***Socky***


Was that Fence Shitter or Fringe Lunatic?

lol4me The bunkers/sockpups are becoming totally unhinged in their desperation for attention. Their obvious willingness to be as cuckoo as they can be is continuing unabated.

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Good chart! And they claim the boycott isn't working. Yeah...we believe you.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Good chart! And they claim the boycott isn't working. Yeah...we believe you.
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Yes. The evidence is right there. And no amount of denial from the bunkers will change this fact.
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Nancy's new story has Px wobbles! The "houseboat" (note that the book is "illustrated" by Nancy) is described as follows:
quote
"The houseboat is solidly built, a modified
commercial houseboat with metal floatation tubes underneath and a single story home in the center,"
end quote

Yet Nancy never seems to have ever been on a houseboat, this one from Nancy's mind is so flimsy four extra people can tip the balance!

quote
"I’m still riding too high back here. You folks
move on toward the back, please."

While they’re waiting for the pedals to lower fully into the water,
end quote

And Nancy, there "PADDLES" not "PEDALS"

So much of the book shows Nancy's complete lack of basic understanding about the world around her, in one scene the "hero" is hooking car batteries in SERIES so they can charge them with an automotive alternator!

Batteries in series give more VOLTAGE (have you got a flashlight that needs more than one battery?) batteries in parallel give more CURRENT.

It makes me wonder about her "survival book", if such gross errors are in that it will only be good for toilet paper!
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
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Good chart! And they claim the boycott isn't working. Yeah...we believe you.


Yes. The evidence is right there. And no amount of denial from the bunkers will change this fact.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

DENIAL x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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DENIAL x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Yes, you live in denial. We've known this for a while.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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DENIAL x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000


Yes, you live in denial. We've known this for a while.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


And desperation, Melfy has to come over here for some attention!

not-real
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DENIAL x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000


Yes, you live in denial. We've known this for a while.


And desperation, Melfy has to come over here for some attention!



Unless they blatantly do a lot of bumps in a row (which will
look desperate) they will stay stuck on page 7 for the latest
chat thread. That's 2 pages less than they got for last weeks.
 Quoting: DrPostman


It's still early, you can bet on the bumps!

half
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There are others I am forgetting -- I am sure other posters can remind me. Wasn't there an old list of things the Zetas would not address, sort of like the infamous #78/68 list?

And it's amusing that the believers are using their precious time on that largely debunker-free thread, now seven pages long, to CONTINUE to discuss debunkers, rather than discuss the merits of PX, which is what they claimed they wanted to do...

I don't believe they ever really addressed the accuracy of ancient solstice markers like Stonehenge and that thing in Ireland, in spite of the wobble - some cool pics came out of that, but no explanation beyond "it's a conspiracy."
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They also never addressed Manhattanhenge and how it shows the sun to be exactly where it should be.
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Good chart! And they claim the boycott isn't working. Yeah...we believe you.


Yes. The evidence is right there. And no amount of denial from the bunkers will change this fact.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

You 'forgot' to include the stats of the same month of June last year:

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 21 2008 206 posts, 7299 views
ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 14 2008 188 posts, 6957 views
ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 7 2008 215 posts, 7211 views

and this was INCLUDING the debunker posts
Now even without the dedumkers empty, cheap and meaningless posts, this years Chat thread does a little BETTER than last year in June.

It's called summertime, many have other things to do.

So once again it's been proven to me that one cannot trust a debunkers word.

Debunkers are getting so bad at it it's getting even more comical than it already was.

If you see this graphic
[link to www.intlvrc.org]
you'll probably conclude that volcanic eruptions are decreasing.
Well, actually the last HALV year 51 volcanoes have blown and that is more than the average for a WHOLE year.

Just stick to your astronomical claim corner, that's where you can't be beaten . . . .

So yeah, debunker boycott not working BIG TIME!
Once again their hollow words proven not trustworthy to me!
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BTW, we might want to suspend the boycott for just one day,
July 18th, just to throw a wrench into her claims about us.


That is a good idea. I have lots of good questions for Nancy, tho I am sure I risk 24 hour banishment by asking them. The key is to behave ourselves, not allow them to bait us into a smilie war or insults. Just present questions and stick to the subject. Let them rant and insult all they like and not be dragged into the mudslinging.


It will be funny to see her explain why we would suspend the
boycott for just 24 hours. She'll have to come up with quite
a lie to excuse that one.
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What's the idea in breaking the boycott for one day after the chat hours?

She won't be answering any questions anyway. She won't be answering anyone's questions after her official chat hours and she won't answer any debunkers' questions no matter when and where those are posed.

And, debunker chat mixed with zetatalk chat for 24 hours would give Nancy and her followers advantage. That is if we think that it matters somewhat how many readers or posts her threads have here. I myself couldn't care less about how popular some thread at glp is or isn't. But in order to make her followers realize that she might not be as popular as they think, it's good if her threads don't get the attention that they seem to crave. Also, informing the cult followers beforehand of our fighting strategy and methods isn't very wise. If we're at war with this cult it's better be done with style and wit.

There's a very good reason to boycott Nancy Lieder's threads because she has set her own rules there. Her self-made rules "justify" her actions in them: ignoring questions and facts, deleting posts, banning posters. She practices dictatorial cencorship and that alone is a good reason not to support her threads in any way.

I personally have nothing against the followers of zetatalk or whatever. They don't have that power to act here as they please, since they're not the moderators.

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Good chart! And they claim the boycott isn't working. Yeah...we believe you.


Yes. The evidence is right there. And no amount of denial from the bunkers will change this fact.

You 'forgot' to include the stats of the same month of June last year:

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 21 2008 206 posts, 7299 views
ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 14 2008 188 posts, 6957 views
ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 7 2008 215 posts, 7211 views

and this was INCLUDING the debunker posts
Now even without the dedumkers empty, cheap and meaningless posts, this years Chat thread does a little BETTER than last year in June.

It's called summertime, many have other things to do.

So once again it's been proven to me that one cannot trust a debunkers word.

Debunkers are getting so bad at it it's getting even more comical than it already was.

If you see this graphic
[link to www.intlvrc.org]
you'll probably conclude that volcanic eruptions are decreasing.
Well, actually the last HALV year 51 volcanoes have blown and that is more than the average for a WHOLE year.

Just stick to your astronomical claim corner, that's where you can't be beaten . . . .

So yeah, debunker boycott not working BIG TIME!
Once again their hollow words proven not trustworthy to me!
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There you go! They do it (deceive) yet AGAIN!

Every time they do this they get busted. They cannot help themselves spin and lie and deceive ... it's in their nature!

Comparing that graph with last years's numbers certainly makes fools out of em. Good work Indiana, showing their deceit!
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The only answer Nancy ever gave is that the Zetas tilt the earth to ensure that these events still happen so we have the so called "element of doubt" and don't go crazy. Of course this is preposterous, but apparently a few people like Andrew and Burkettgirl find this to be a sensible explanation.

There are some structures, like the solstice device in Xochicalco, Mexico that are so precise that they would just plain not work if the alignment of the earth and sun were even slightly off. What I don't get is that if the Zetas can move the earth to simulate the seasons and hide that the earth is stalled in the "September position" for the past few years, why can't they just move us out of the path of Planet X?. But such are the inconsistencies of Nancy's planet X fantasy.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Right! Really, Nancy's made much of the evil government coverup to keep people from finding out about Planet X, but the Zetas are by far the worst offenders in that department. I remember a Venus transit incident a little while ago where they actually shoved Venus around in the sky so that we wouldn't notice it being out of place.

If it turns out we're all wrong and the pole shift comes unexpectedly, it's basically going to be their fault for covering it up - anyone want in on a class-action lawsuit?
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I am uncertain if the chart is accurate as well....

The part that I don't understand is, at one point, the number of replies is *higher* than the page view. Which I don't think is possible with GLPs software.

It looks more to me like the other silly pictures people put up, with text sort of pasted in an attempt to be funny.

The summer excuse seems similarly silly to me. It's the summer, so I don't have to know about the incoming planet? Do incoming planets only mess with Earth in the Winter?

It would be interesting to see a real chart with the real numbers. I don't think that chart is it. However, I can't help but notice people accepting it or rejecting it out of hand without examining it more closely, depending on their point of view. And, I think, if an accurate chart was made, that the believers would NOT like the results one whit...
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Let's see...we've stayed out of Nancy's threads and we haven't attacked User there at all. He just showed he can't help himself...he's lost unless he's attacking someone. He couldn't stay out of our thread for more than a few weeks!

There you go! They do it (deceive) yet AGAIN!
 Quoting: User # 78/68

There's nothing deceptive about it. Perhaps you would like to point out what it is, if the chart is deceptive. Somehow, I doubt you will.

Every time they do this they get busted.
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Busted with what exactly? Care to expand on that?

They cannot help themselves spin and lie and deceive ... it's in their nature!
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Oh, like you do when you claim we're paid to be here? Or when you claim that Hap is a fake and he doesn't own any of the equipment he says he does? Spinning, lying and deceiving is all you know how to do...it's in your nature.

Comparing that graph with last years's numbers certainly makes fools out of em.
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No, it doesn't. It makes fools out of you. It proves that without "debunkers," Nancy's threads sink quickly and don't get nearly as much attention as they normally would.

Good work Indiana, showing their deceit!
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Deceit? Oh, you mean like this:

Challenges "User # 78/68" Continues To Run Away From
(also known as The Number Of Ways "User # 78/68" Continues To Embarrass Himself)

1) When asked for proof that "Planet X" exists, he simply spews insults and runs away.
2) When someone wanted to bet him money (something that's very important to him) on Nancy's accuracy, he disappeared. And each time it is brought up, he ignores it.
3) I provided photographic proof that the sun was NOT rising 20 minutes early. When I asked him to dispute this, he ran away.
4) I provided a diagram proving that constellations behind the sun cannot be made visible by simply tilting the Earth or lowering it in the ecliptic. Instead of providing charts of his own to show it would be possible, he simply threw out insults and ran away.
4) When I personally invited him to Tampa to prove that I am exactly who I say I am, he initially showed interest and then ran away.
5) Hap, ID 88145, invited "User" to call him at work or e-mail him, instead of doing so he threw out more insults and ran away.
6) When asked why GOTO telescopes continue to accurately track the moon if it were moving unpredictably (i.e. too far north, too far south), he spewed more insults and ran away.
7) Hap invited anyone who believes in "Planet X" to come view the skies with him to search for this elusive "rogue planet" that "believers" all claim is so easy to see at sunrise. Instead of taking up that invitation, "User" threw out more insults and ran away.
8) ID 74444 suggested that Nancy is NOT the most popular poster on GLP and explained how he came to this conclusion. Instead of providing any evidence to prove otherwise, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
9) When asked if he believed that Earth was halted in orbit, or if he believed that "Planet X" would cause a "pole shift" and wipe out 90% of Earth's population (both of which are claims made by Nancy) - "User" called them trick questions, refused to answer and ran away.
10) "User" claims that "debunkers" lie. When asked for examples of these lies, he spews insults and runs away.
11) He claims that "debunkers" are government agents. When asked for proof of this, he spews insults and runs away.
12) Since "User" refuses to take Hap up on his offer to search for "Planet X," it was suggested "User" contact a local astronomy club and view with them. "User" spewed insults and ran away.
13) "User" claims earthquake activity is increasing. But instead of providing data to support this claim, he spewed insults and ran away.
14) Nancy claimed that Adam Air Flight 574 crashed in an inland lake. "Debunkers" have provided several links showing that Nancy is wrong. Instead of providing evidence showing otherwise, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
15) "User" contends that "Debunkers" are always wrong. When asked for examples of when "Debunkers" have been wrong, he spewed insults and ran away.
16) When asked for examples of when Nancy was right, especially when pertaining to astronomical claims and predictions, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
17) "User" has seen this list several times and has yet to dispute anything on it. Instead, he spewed insults and ran away.
18) "User" doesn't believe that vaporized water contaminated with arsenic was responsible for the illness in Peru after a meteor strike. When asked what HE thought caused it, he spewed insults and ran away.
19) Nancy claims that the Minneapolis bridge collapse was caused by some "stretch zone." When asked for evidence of this, "User" spewed insults and ran way.
20) "User" claims that I lied about amateur radio operators using their equipment and the moon for EME communications. When asked for evidence to support his claim that I lied, he spewed insults and ran away.
21) "User" claimed that many, many people are seeing the moon "not right." When asked for links of these claims or some form of evidence to support the claim that the moon is "not right," he spewed insults and ran away.
22) "User" claimed that Menow lied when he said the sun is not setting further north each day during the fall months. When asked for supporting evidence, he spewed insults and ran away. (Prof-Rabbit supplied a link showing the sun does not move north during the fall months in the north hemisphere.)
23) "User" demands that "debunkers" provide evidence or, in his words, "to put up or shut up." When "User" is asked to do the same, he spews insults and runs away.
24) Hap sent some photos to Nancy. He never stated what they were or what he believed them to be, instead he asked her what she thought they were. Nancy, and Nancy alone, stated they were photos of "Planet X." When asked which photos are "Planet X" and which ones are just lens flare, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
25) "User" continues to say I've exposed my lies. He has been asked what lies those are and to provide supporting evidence. Instead, he spews insults and runs away.
26) "User" tasked Nighthawk to demonstrate some contradictions from "ZetaTalk." Nighthawk came up with four. "User" made a weak attempt to explain them away, then spewed insults and ran away.
27) Hap provided a link to a website with photos of his equipment. "User" claimed it was all fake, spewed insults and ran away.
28) Hap's contact information is provided on the website, but instead of using it to verify Hap is who he claims, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
29) Several weeks ago, Hap again extended his invitation for anyone to come look for "Planet X" using his observatory. "User" again spewed insults and ran away.
30) "User" claimed that Nancy predicted the current economic recession...when in reality, Nancy said the recession would happen in 2003 and that the DOW would be worth a quarter of its value. When this was pointed out, "User" spewed insults and ran away. 31) "User" implied that Hap shouldn't be taken seriously because he doesn't have any credentials in astronomy...even though none are needed to be an amateur astronomer. When asked what credentials Nancy had that makes her more believable, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
32) "User" claimed that the Zetas never said they were preventing asteroid strikes. When shown exactly what the Zetas said, proving they did say it, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
33) "User" claimed that "The Commentator" outed himself as a NASA shill. When asked to explain exactly how this was done, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
34) "User" once again claimed that "The Commentator" is a NASA shill. When asked to provide evidence to support this claim, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
NEW to the list:
35) "User" stated that "debunkers" spend thousands of hours on Nancy's threads. When asked for supporting evidence, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
36) "User" claimed that only NASA would hire "debunkers." When asked for evidence of this, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
37) "User" once again claimed that "debunkers" lie. When asked for evidence of this or examples of such lies, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
38) "User" claimed I was squirming. When asked for specific examples of how I was squirming, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
39) "User" presented an article describing how GPS satellites might fail within a year. He claimed that Nancy and the "Zetas" predicted this. However, "User" failed to post the whole article which stated the reason for the potential failure is due to neglect and failure to replace key satellites...not because of some "rogue planet" as Nancy claimed. When this was pointed out to him, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
40) "User" claimed that Hap was afraid to answer his questions. Hap said he would answer any question "User" had. Instead of asking any questions, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
41) "User" claimed I tried to become a police officer and failed the psychological examination. I never tried to become an officer. When asked for evidence to back up his claims, User spewed insults and ran away.
42) "User" claimed I couldn't hold a job as a dispatcher. I was neither fired or laid off. I resigned when my wife accepted a job in Colorado. When asked for evidence to back up his claim I was fired or laid off, "User" spewed insults and ran away.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 06/30/2009 02:53 PM
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Talk about obsessed! Soledad just can't stop herself from starting threads to attack debunkers. Most of her contributions lately are nothing more than attempts to bait debunkers into circular arguments. A few weeks ago she was saying that debunkers were like commercials, interrupting the important discussions that bunkers attempted to have on Nancy's threads, and wishing we would just go away. Now that we have done just as she claimed to want, she is still starting threads about debunkers. I would have thought that she would be thrilled to join in the deep discussions of everything related to ZetaTalk instead of trying to provoke an argument with the absent debunkers, since we are such a pain in the ass! All she is doing is upstaging Nancy and making a fool of herself in the process.
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I am uncertain if the chart is accurate as well....

It looks more to me like the other silly pictures people put up, with text sort of pasted in an attempt to be funny.
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The scales for views/replies are different, check the left and right Y axes.

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