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Clare, you have yet to address ANY of my thought experiments. Why is that?
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it's that tenth word
(hey planet x- planet 10, tenth word....)

you used the word `thought' and that is an autoban word for any zetatard brain...

`thought experiments' means that you must think that they can `thought' in the first place....

what a strange and interesting concept it would be if they ever did indulge in `thought'

(I would love to be a thought reading fly on the wall at that place and point in time....)
:-O
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Clare should ask Andrew about his bedroom habits. You are proud of your self-pleasure routine, are you not, Andrew? I mean, you did create an entire thread devoted to them not so very long ago.

And Clare, the Moon does indeed rotate about its north-south axis. No amount of misuse or terms and stupid analogies on your part will negate this simple fact.

You are either an expert troll or a complete dumbass.
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Clare should ask Andrew about his bedroom habits. You are proud of your self-pleasure routine, are you not, Andrew? I mean, you did create an entire thread devoted to them not so very long ago.

And Clare, the Moon does indeed rotate about its north-south axis. No amount of misuse or terms and stupid analogies on your part will negate this simple fact.

You are either an expert troll or a complete dumbass.
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`shock horror'

impossible!!!

clunk has told us in many thousands of words that it isn't so!!!

and she has given us her `canadian word' that she is well educated!!
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Moon does NOT rotate around its own axis. It only rotates in an orbit around the Earth, with its one side always "glued" to Earth.
 Quoting: andrew

You just proved that you are with a high propability the most retarded of the zetards EVER ... and that means you are so retarded that it would be an insult to call you a human being, a right that I will deny to you from now on.

Here are a few reminders for those who don't know Wanky Andy:



i allow my cat to walk the table and eat what was left in dishes

my girlfriend and i did put honey on each other and ate it

i wash once a week / two weeks - in winter

i think communism (=socialism) is more just social arrangement

sometimes i DO IT jerkit to myself in bed, letting it go free where and how it does

i find exhibitionism exciting and some perversions too

i believe in a RIGHT for a suicide

i like to chew end of my pen

i hate onions, to the point that i would take time and pick it out from the dish served, to the last tiny piece.

i think children are right and parents are not.
cuz children are subvrted and made to believe that they are wrong and should comply.
 Quoting: andrew


More here:
Thread: "Let me express my extreme point of view..."

And here:
what's wrong with being a "COMMUNIST NATION"?
 Quoting: andrew


Thread: OBAMA is a COMMUNIST!!! WAKE UP!!!!


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Moon does NOT rotate around its own axis. It only rotates in an orbit around the Earth, with its one side always "glued" to Earth.

 Quoting: andrew


and what pray tell `glues' the moon in this position???























































uggghhh....


on second thoughts- after wanky andys revalations about his sexual habits....
I dont think I want to know....
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Moon does NOT rotate around its own axis. It only rotates in an orbit around the Earth, with its one side always "glued" to Earth.


and what pray tell `glues' the moon in this position???
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There no need at all to debunk the Zetards ... with the help of complete and utter retards like Andrew they do a very good job on that without our help.

All that is left for us is to ROFL and to ridicule them
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Moon does NOT rotate around its own axis. It only rotates in an orbit around the Earth, with its one side always "glued" to Earth.
 Quoting: andrew

I doubt it will help your totally deluded brain, but you should watch this WankyAndy:


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Moon does NOT rotate around its own axis. It only rotates in an orbit around the Earth, with its one side always "glued" to Earth.


and what pray tell `glues' the moon in this position???


There no need at all to debunk the Zetards ... with the help of complete and utter retards like Andrew they do a very good job on that without our help.

All that is left for us is to ROFL and to ridicule them
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Precisely. Andrew is the poster child of what following Nancy Lieder does to one's remaining intelligence. You have to be a real zero to believe her in the first place, but when you actually fall for her silliness, it removes all vestiges of a brain you might have had. Andrew is the perfect example.
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(Menow-style mercy snip)


As to the words ... "Spinning"? "Rotating"? As we've found, these words can refer to two different actions.


What? I have seen no confusion between 'spin' and 'rotation'. The confusion has been with YOUR mixing up 'rotation' and 'revolution', and you have not had the courtesy to acknowledge the correction, though it was repeated several times.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Note: No response about Clare's chronic misuse of these terms.

Yes, he is "spinning" around the racetrack centre.


I stand corrected... Only YOU could make that sort of confused statement. No, he is NOT 'spinning' around the race track center. He could be said to be REVOLVING around it, but we should be careful in applying orbital terms to non-orbital situations.

So... with your confused language, I don't know WHAT you are saying there.


Yours does not handle this difference: mine can speak of what the Moon is doing even if it went straight.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


My what? You aren't saying anything, as usual. If the Moon went 'straight', it would still be rotating at exactly the same rate as it is now, so wtf are you talking about?

Enough. Not going more into physical E-M momentum forces which make all this happen. The physical forces pull and push on the total body and spin it to accomplish the rotation. Yes.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Huh? What forces do you think are involved in a rotating object?

However, it does not also have spin on it relative to its forward motion in total.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


What doesn't?

It turns on its axis as it moves forward, but does not spin in its own right relative to the movement forward in the new direction. We're both right, but describing different levels of the geometry.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Yes, there might be those two motions in play, but they are separate motions. They simply are taking place at the same time.

On a force level, yes, the pull turns the axis as the momentum directs it straight away.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Excuse me? What "PULL"?

On a geometric level, there is another item we have to name: the possibility of a body to turn MORE than it is pulled forward on an orbit/turned on its axis around it on the orbit.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


WHAT "PULL", Clare??????? You seem to be imagining forces which don't exist.

That is the spinning car on an orbital racetrack. And yes, I specified the racetrack was round.

It is this second type of "spin on its axis" geometrically which I am describing, a spin relative to the overall path the angular momentum physics cancels out at: the orbit.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


That is not a different type of 'spin'. They are both the exact same motion.

More turn than it requires then a spin as I described can be seen.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


There is no such 'requirement', as you imagine.


Like Venus.
]/quote]

Venus displays no different type of 'spin' than does the Moon. It makes no difference how many times you twist and turn and invent non-existent forces and motions.

Now, PX. Any news?
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Nope. Still doesn't exist.
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(Menow-style mercy snip)




On a force level, yes, the pull turns the axis as the momentum directs it straight away.


Excuse me? What "PULL"?
]/quote]


am I getting confuzzled between klunk and nandrew here??

which one does the pull thing again?
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Clare, here is the news you desire on px. It doesn't exist. Get it now?
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Oh -- before you get picayune in your sneer tactics, about "turns the axis" I mean, of course, turns the body around it.
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"Of course"??? How could anyone know wtf you are talking about. You steadfastly REFUSE to use proper terminology.

WHAT turns the body? You are incomprehensible!

But the point is, equal to the overall orbital path turn to take. No more.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Mere happenstace. There is NO overall significance to that coincidence.

If more, then we observe what most people call spinning in its own right.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


'Most people' are RIGHT, Clare. YOU ARE WRONG.

What word would you like to give that? Hm? Venus' motion. What would you call it.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


ROTATION, Clare.

I call it "spinning on its axis" ... as it "rotates" ...
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


That's what I just said.

But you like to call the turning of its body on the rotation a "spin on its axis" which is totally legitimate.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Why, thank you.

So what do you call what I am referring to? Or shall we just specify, as I started to long ago:
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


ROTATION, Clare.

Venus: relative to its path, spin, but Moon no.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Yes, Clare. Both are the same. They are BOTH simply ROTATION.

Venus AND Moon: relative to a straight line, spin, from forces, pulling it to make the path.

:)
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Excuse me? Again with the 'forces'. WHAT 'forces', Clare?
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Hey, Commendator and Menow:

Since you are right it turns on its axis as it rotates,
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Well, that is the whole point. Nancy claims it does not.
But wait... what do you mean, turns AS it rotates??

what would you like to call the spin which Venus exhibits in addition to its orbital angular spin on its axis?
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


You are still imagining non -existent events. What is "orbital angular spin"?

It is the latter I (and most people) call "spin on an axis" and it IS a separate and very real identifiable relationship of axis to path.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


You are descending into gobbldygook again.

Would you say it just has more angle than momentum forward, instead of equal?
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


Incomprehensible, due to being based entirely on misconceptions.

What would you like to call this, so we can agree there is a difference between the spin on the axis of the Moon from that of Venus?
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


There is NOT ANY DIFFERENCE. How many times does this have to be repeated for you?

They both spin on their axis in orientation around their orbits, but the latter one has a discernible extra spin while on its orbit.
 Quoting: mclarek 971744


It has no "extra spin". Period.
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But the car, hit on the circular racetrack, but tethered to the centre point (like gravity), would have a special spin relative to the road, as it goes forward on it. This is like the day of Venus.
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Does the driver see the truth of his 'spin' by only looking at the interior of the car?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

now nandrew- care to show us all why nancy is wrong and that the earth ISNT halted in its orbit?
or why she is right and it is??

your link is the best case of showing experiments are usually right I have ever seen

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

has been proven experimentally by you in that post


that experiment puts scientific objectivity under serious question. scientists are just people, after all, you know.

and peer pressure (social/group conformity) often overrides ones own Independent Thinking and Objectivity, and critical thinking.
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Andrew how are you! I have to agree with one thing you have said. Your comment about scientific objectivity is quite true. I did a bit of research (now many months ago) and found the scientific community is very concerned about its own house. The Global Warming fiasco just to name one very prominent one is a prime example. Yes, scientists are human and peer pressure is extremely important to them. Their peer review process prior to publication is both a quality assurance tool and a "you will agree with me or perish process." Keep your position on this issue.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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Moon does NOT rotate around its own axis. It only rotates in an orbit around the Earth, with its one side always "glued" to Earth.

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Knowing that this is a total waste of time...

Do you know what angular momentum is, Andrew?
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Except that it's not 'imaginary'. The Moon rotates... ON ITS AXIS. MENOW quote


Menow, are you STILL on this thing? The moon does not rotate.
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The completeness of your argument is truly impressive! /sarcasm
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and another deluded morAn pops up...

so - care to explain why science works (despite all the horribly `threatened with death or worse' scientists)

and yet nancy continues to not understand that no matter how hard you `bobble' or or angle the earth- the FACT is that the constellations continue to spin around right on time for every one to arrive in view at exactly the right times....

even the ones that had the earth been stopped - would be totally invisible because they would be in the middle of the sun (yet magically appear at midnight instead..)
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I did a bit of research (now many months ago)
 Quoting: George B


I am surprised that george b can read above `see spot run'

(admittedly what was his favour book in college- a kindergarden book published in his mid 20's??)

Yes george- I see you are as `smart' as your namesake.....
and am surprised that you can now remember `many months ago'- you seemed to be incapable of remembering what you said 5 seconds ago when I saw you last
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The Moon always shows its face to WHAT IT ORBITS.
Venus doesn't.
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And that is of no particular significance other than tidal locking.

Now... I begin the tedius task of repeating a question until Clare answers it. It took about a dozen repeats on the other one, and this one was usually right along side.

Clare... You DID finally claim to know what angular momentum is. So, moving on from that... does the Moon, as a massive spherical body, possess any angular momentum?
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The Moon always shows its face to WHAT IT ORBITS.
Venus doesn't.


And that is of no particular significance other than tidal locking.

Now... I begin the tedius task of repeating a question until Clare answers it. It took about a dozen repeats on the other one, and this one was usually right along side.

Clare... You DID finally claim to know what angular momentum is. So, moving on from that... does the Moon, as a massive spherical body, possess any angular momentum?
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'Clare' will answer the question 'does the Moon, as a massive spherical body, possess any angular momentum?' by first attempting to redefine the words spherical, body, possess, any, angular, and momentum.

I can't wait to see what zany definitions she decides to use. 'Angular' will probably involve lines, tortoises, bread, and electrons. She'll reference a few obscure German philosophers for momentum, and equate it to pulmonary thrombosis. We will then be lectured, in a petualnt, all-knowing tone, concerning the ultimately cubical nature of spheres.

And then she'll have to hurry off to work again.
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The Moon always shows its face to WHAT IT ORBITS.
Venus doesn't.


And that is of no particular significance other than tidal locking.

Now... I begin the tedius task of repeating a question until Clare answers it. It took about a dozen repeats on the other one, and this one was usually right along side.

Clare... You DID finally claim to know what angular momentum is. So, moving on from that... does the Moon, as a massive spherical body, possess any angular momentum?



'Clare' will answer the question 'does the Moon, as a massive spherical body, possess any angular momentum?' by first attempting to redefine the words spherical, body, possess, any, angular, and momentum.

I can't wait to see what zany definitions she decides to use. 'Angular' will probably involve lines, tortoises, bread, and electrons. She'll reference a few obscure German philosophers for momentum, and equate it to pulmonary thrombosis. We will then be lectured, in a petualnt, all-knowing tone, concerning the ultimately cubical nature of spheres.

And then she'll have to hurry off to work again.
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That made me LOL!
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oh look its `handy andy' (older ozzies will remeber the ads)

suits this `let it swing free' young fella rather well..

he probably buys it in by the 44 gallon drumload for his sheets LOL


(whats wrong handy andy- the ning a bit slow since nancy took it over and kicked your smelly arse out on the street??)
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no, i was wondering how you fools are doing here! hf
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you fools
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That's quite an accusation from someone who doesn't think that the moon rotates around it's own axis.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

has been proven experimentally by you in that post

that experiment puts scientific objectivity under serious question. scientists are just people, after all, you know.

and peer pressure (social/group conformity) often overrides ones own Independent Thinking and Objectivity, and critical thinking.

Andrew how are you! I have to agree with one thing you have said. Your comment about scientific objectivity is quite true. I did a bit of research (now many months ago) and found the scientific community is very concerned about its own house. The Global Warming fiasco just to name one very prominent one is a prime example. Yes, scientists are human and peer pressure is extremely important to them. Their peer review process prior to publication is both a quality assurance tool and a "you will agree with me or perish process." Keep your position on this issue.
 Quoting: George B


hi!
I think anyone should realise this, for science is not some "sacred knowledge" - as you said, it is a peer reviewed consensus on what reality is supposed to be!

It was always clear to me.
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you fools

That's quite an accusation from someone who doesn't think that the moon rotates around it's own axis.
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why? how can those who believe that Moon rotation is arranges so very carefully to show us only one its side, becalled?

Ok, fools is a bit too harsh, let it be dummies hf
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Clare's definitions:

MASS - Mass is weight, but not really, since weight varies, but is also constant. You're silly not to see the difference, even though they are the same, but since you're not educated you can't see the controverted difference/sameness, or logistimobile. Dummy.

ORBIT - An orbit is a spin with a revolution applied to a path that supercedes a movement about a shared axis that is unique or shared but perpendicular to an applied vertical correspondence of mutual hyperbolic axial non-polarized linearities, of course. But that's beyond you simpletons. If only you would *listen*.

SCIENCE - Science is what keeps getting in the way of knowledge. Scientists only understand a few facets of the science they work with, which makes it hard for people to understand the great truths I bring. If scientists would listen to me they would be as smart as me but you lot still wouldn't udnerstand a word I'm saying because I am Clare and you are not. Duh.

SPIN - Spin takes place when dual revolutions between misplaced axial planes coincide with nonplanar geometric apparent motions of non-intersecting circular bolides. And that only applies if the elliptical ratio of the comparative areas of the intersecting planar volumes maintain a constant ratio of pi when expressed in longitudal radians, you idiots.
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Had your bath this week, Andrew?
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why? how can those who believe that Moon rotation is arranges so very carefully to show us only one its side, becalled?

Ok, fools is a bit too harsh, let it be dummies hf
 Quoting: andrew

If it would not rotate we would see all of its side you retard ... you should watch the video I posted on the last page ... there are more videos on youtube, some explain synchronous rotation for little children, maybe you will understand them (I seriously doubt it though).

BTW, what that smell ? Sniff , sniff ... smells like a combination of underarm perspiration, butt cheese and goo crusted bedsheets ... smells like you're on schedule for your next bath Andyboy ...

i wash once a week / two weeks - in winter
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Clare's definitions, Part II:

ASTRONOMY - Probably something to do with the stars. Maybe the planets too, although there's no real difference. Astrology is easier to keep track of because it's in the papers every day. I'm a Leo, and you're all stupid.

THE MOON - A smaller body that shares the Earth's orbit and rotates about an axis that is INVISIBLE and anyway doesn't rotate. Keeps the same face toward the Earth by shuffling and bobbling, also by spinning and revolving in a complicated motion I call 'spivolving.' You'd know that if you weren't such idiots. Don't be rude.

PRECESSION - When all the planets move in a straight line toward the front of the Solar System. Happens during Vernal Equinoxes and can only be captured with micorwave imaging from optical telescopes located on the South Pole. Makes a loud hissing noise, of which I have several recordings made by tuning between active FM radio stations. You were too dumb to try that.

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