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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
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Yes, but even with the debunkers gone off of Nancy's threads right now she is STILL getting more page views and responses than last year at this time



What the hell difference does that make anyway? I don't care how many people are or are not looking at her threads, she's still completely wrong.
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I wouldn't say she's completely wrong, but the odds are not in her favor, in my opinion.
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Yes, but even with the debunkers gone off of Nancy's threads right now she is STILL getting more page views and responses than last year at this time



What the hell difference does that make anyway? I don't care how many people are or are not looking at her threads, she's still completely wrong.
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Stay with me, now.

You should ask the debunkers what difference it makes. Afterall, it is their graphs and argument. We're not talking about right or wrong here.
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Just because people stop to look at a train wreck doesn't mean train wrecks are popular. There have been several polls and in all cases, the votes are against Nancy. Including ACs and suspected sock puppets, Nancy's following here is probably between 10 and 20 people. I would hardly call that popular. More people read because as humans we tend to have the morbid nature that makes us stop and look at the train wreck in progress.
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Just because people stop to look at a train wreck doesn't mean train wrecks are popular. There have been several polls and in all cases, the votes are against Nancy. Including ACs and suspected sock puppets, Nancy's following here is probably between 10 and 20 people. I would hardly call that popular. More people read because as humans we tend to have the morbid nature that makes us stop and look at the train wreck in progress.
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You're deluded.

10 to 20 people is just "your" reality. This scares you so?

Thousands and thousands of page views per week (usually around 10,000) and this all by 10 to 20 people. Your excuses are comical!
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Not scared of a handful of gullible people. Andrew started a thread to see how people felt about Nancy's credibility. The results are 21 posters that say Nancy is full of bull, 3 say she gets some things right, but lots of other things wrong, and 5 say they believe. This is a "poll" started by a supporter. Other polls show similar results. Unless many people are too afraid to participate in these polls, I would say that Nancy is definitely not as popular as the bunkers would like to think.

If you look at who posts to her threads, you will see the same little group, User, Max, Andrew, Freestore, Soledad, Burkettgirl and a few ACs. Hardly what I would call popular.
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Just because people stop to look at a train wreck doesn't mean train wrecks are popular. There have been several polls and in all cases, the votes are against Nancy. Including ACs and suspected sock puppets, Nancy's following here is probably between 10 and 20 people. I would hardly call that popular. More people read because as humans we tend to have the morbid nature that makes us stop and look at the train wreck in progress.




You're deluded.

10 to 20 people is just "your" reality. This scares you so?

Thousands and thousands of page views per week (usually around 10,000) and this all by 10 to 20 people. Your excuses are comical!
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It's a shame to think that there could be more than 10 or 20 people that are clueless enough to actually fall for Nancy's bullshit.
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Last I heard, they were south of the border and had a very bad run in with the Federale's!!!!
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She actually believes she is in contact with aliens. Whether that's true or if she's simply delusional is in debate. She very well could be in contact with "aliens." However, they are either giving her intentional misinformation or she isn't understanding what is being said to her...although, if that were the case, you would think these "aliens" would be aware of that and correct the situation - which they have not done. If she is mentally ill, I don't know if anyone should have pity for her or not. On one hand, if you do...you may be attacked by some believers for having any pity for someone who is only trying to help mankind. If you don't pity her...then you may be attacked by some believers for being "Service To Self." It's kind of a no win situation there. I, for one, wish she would get some treatment if she is ill...but she needs to want that help. Right now, she doesn't want it because she truly thinks she's right...and will probably go on doing so no matter how many times "Planet X" doesn't show up.
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Is Nancy in contact with what she has decided to call zetas, or is she simply conscious of her own mind, at least partly. I think the latter to be the case, but I do think that she's not conscious enough. She could have done a much better job at it if she had used reason and logic rather than relying on imagination and feelings. She decided not to question "zetas" because she was in such a hurry to do her mission of Zetatalk business, warn people, or whatever. This she has stated herself:

"GN: ...Nancy, let me ask you this--I'm gonna ask you both "reverse-type" questions--but if Planet X does not show up, I wanna get your thoughts, your reactions to all this, what are you gonna say, have the Zetas tricked you, they lied to you? What will be your, ah, your, your verbiage to me then?

Nancy: Actually, I spend no time whatsoever thinking about that, George, and the reason is, I am too busy explaining to people, ah, what to do when it does show up."
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Nancy has been too busy to think. That's exactly the problem.

Whether "zetas" are giving her intentional misinformation or she doesn't understand what they say to her, well, both could be true. Taking some time to actually think with strict logic and reason could reveal the truth about that. I've often thought that maybe "zetas" intentionally lie so that Nancy would wake up and start thinking critically. I've also thought that "zetas" sometimes give actual and real information but Nancy interprets it falsely. For instance when "they" said there would be a sign in her office if the magazines were turned, and the fact that the magazines were not turned, in other words "they" gave no sign or they decided deliberately NOT to give her that sign that she was obsessed with. Why didn't she take that fact seriously? What I don't get is how come she seems to never have seriously questioned anything "per the zetas". What kind of faith is that?

I personally would never believe in God if my "signs" and "proofs" were so imaginary, arbitrary, made-up by myself, fabricated, clearly influenced by other people or my own subconscious, or unreasonable.
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Her delusion makes ANY bullshit reason good enough for her.


Yes...for her any excuse will make sense. I imagine she'll continue to believe that she's in contact with aliens and being given special knowledge until the day she dies. I know she's questioned all of this before...but each time, the "Zetas" give her an explanation and she buys it...continuing on with her faith renewed. You would think at some point she would say, "You know what? That's enough! You've been telling me for over 15 years that the 'Planet X' was coming and a 'pole shift' was going to happen. For over six years I tried to convince others that 'Planet X' was by the sun...and that it was coming...soon. 2003 turned out to be a lie...even though you insisted that all other dates were incorrect. Then you said 2012 was too far out. Well, it's 2012! Where is this 'planet?' When is this 'pole shift' going to happen? No more lies, no more deception! I'm through. Take your chip out of my head, take your unwrapped Starburst, and leave me alone!" But I doubt any of this will happen in 2012. And one of her followers is so convinced "Planet X" is here, they'll go on believing no matter how many dates come and go.
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Good point, for any of those things to happen LIEDer would have to have a sudden infusion of basic mental health, and that just isn't going to happen.
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Is Nancy in contact with what she has decided to call zetas, or is she simply conscious of her own mind, at least partly.
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We've discussed this many times before. My take on it based on quite a bit of evidence from her chats is that while there is clearly some sort of pathology in play she is at some level consciously making this up and is aware she is doing so.
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Yes, but even with the debunkers gone off of Nancy's threads right now she is STILL getting more page views and responses than last year at this time ... and last year's numbers included the debunkers posts. This clearly means that the debunkers are being very disingenuous when they have been claiming Nancy's popularity to be decreasing. They have been claiming this many times within this past year. This is false!

The debunkers seem so afraid of admitting Nancy Lieder is popular (many times actually denying it), even increasing in popularity (overall) that they loose credibility in the process. This is a debunkers dilemna. Afterall, it is their own graph and numbers that show the facts.
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The problem is - you know darn well the page view count can be manipulated. All one has to do is enter the thread and hit refresh over and over. And nowhere did I ever say she wasn't popular. However, I don't see where you're getting your figures showing she is gaining in popularity. The data after "debunkers" left the thread shows otherwise...no matter how you want to spin it.
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You should ask the debunkers what difference it makes. Afterall, it is their graphs and argument. We're not talking about right or wrong here.
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Not really...it was you that said Nancy was the most popular person on GLP. Not us. And many believers are the ones that said it was "debunkers" that kept her threads on the front page and gave it so many replies.
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10 to 20 people is just "your" reality. This scares you so?

Thousands and thousands of page views per week (usually around 10,000) and this all by 10 to 20 people. Your excuses are comical!
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Do you have any evidence to show there are more than that? Don't you realize the thread count goes up each time a person enters the thread...whether they've been there once already or not? Some people might check the thread several times a day to see if there's anything worth responding to. Let's say that 10 people check the thread 10 times each day. That's 100 views. 100 views times 7 days is 700 views. If there were 20 people checking the thread 10 times a day...that's 200 views in one day multiplied by 7 days equals 1400 views. It is quite possible that there are only 20 or so people entering her threads. Your spin on this is comical!
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Granted, this is from the 28th on one of Nancy's other threads. But I'm going to comment on it anyway.

There are some more debunker lies!

These guys cannot help themselves. One lie after another.
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What lies are those? I know I've asked you to provide examples in the past but you never come up with anything. And are you implying you haven't told any lies yourself? I can certainly cite some if you'd like.

ZetaMax was a 911 survivor ... why does this trouble you so?
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It doesn't trouble me at all. But how do I know if he's telling the truth? I don't know him. To be honest, though, I never claimed he wasn't. I simply don't know. However, this road goes both ways. Hap has provided photographs of the sky taken with equipment that he owns, he has provided photographs of that equipment. He has invited many of the people here to come view with his group. He has also provided contact information where he can be reached. He obviously knows what he's talking about in regards to astronomy and has done more than anyone to prove he's telling the truth. And yet, you call him a liar. Why does this trouble you so?

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This shows an increase in her popularity in that longer time frame ... right or wrong about the message. You will notice above, the new graph submitted by, I think, The Lone Ranger, doesn't even include last year's numbers for a comparison. That's the misleading part. Making a new graph does not make this go away.

The debunkers have for years now saying Nancy's popularity has been steadily deceasing ... your original graph shows this is not the case at all! Explain that, if you will. Try and be civil.

It may be misleading...but that doesn't mean it was intentional. It might simply be that Lone Ranger didn't go back that far. Therefore, you can't say "debunkers" are being deceitful. All you can say is that the information is misleading. I also need to add that whether Nancy is popular or not, it does not mean that she is right. Nor does it mean that people believe her either.

Lone Ranger...since you're good at making these charts, why don't you make one covering the last year if possible?





I have to disagree with you there. We have already discussed the disparments between this year and last year and what the trends showed. For him not to include last year' numbers after the discussions certainly shows a level of mislead OR plain deceit. The numbers do speak for themselves. AND, Nancy Being right is a red herring argument. Nobody is saying she is right in this argument. It is the debunkers that put forth these graphs, and it is THEM using these numbers in their arguments. Right or wrong doesn't matter with regards to the message. You guys want to use the numbers to prove something. You can't go back and say now that the numbers don't matter, OR that people don't or do believe her.
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HAR! As if you truly care about logic or proper arguments or truth. You have made some of the most obtuse and clearly false attempts at supporting Nancy's insanity of anyone, yet now you profess to be the arbiter of fairness? HAR!

How about you tell us, again, about how you agree with "Zetas" that the Moon doesn't rotate? Oh, wait... you say it DOES rotate! How does that AGREE with Nancy again?
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My question about Nancy, for those of you in the know, is this. Are these actions intentional deceptive (maybe attention whoring or something) or does she really beleive she is in contact with aliens? Should we look down on her as a scam artist or take pity on her as a crazy old woman.

Me, personally, I reckon she's a crazy old woman and do pity her, to some extent. It's her followers (what few are left) that are hilarious.
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This has been asked for years. No one seems to have the final answer. I personally believe she is possessed by "Zetas", whatever that is.
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I have to disagree with you there. We have already discussed the disparments between this year and last year and what the trends showed. For him not to include last year' numbers after the discussions certainly shows a level of mislead OR plain deceit. The numbers do speak for themselves. AND, Nancy Being right is a red herring argument. Nobody is saying she is right in this argument. It is the debunkers that put forth these graphs, and it is THEM using these numbers in their arguments. Right or wrong doesn't matter with regards to the message. You guys want to use the numbers to prove something. You can't go back and say now that the numbers don't matter, OR that people don't or do believe her.

Actually, on page 54 I believe, he has a bar chart that shows information for 2007, 2008 and 2009 to present. Based on that information, her "popularity" goes up and down. Overall, though, this "popularity" was at it's highest in 2009...up until "debunkers" left the thread. And I still do not find these charts misleading in any way because the point remains - without "debunkers," the number of posts and page views goes down. If you could go back and remove all posts and page views made by "debunkers" over the course of two years, the numbers for those threads would go down.





Yes, but even with the debunkers gone off of Nancy's threads right now she is STILL getting more page views and responses than last year at this time ... and last year's numbers included the debunkers posts. This clearly means that the debunkers are being very disingenuous when they have been claiming Nancy's popularity to be decreasing. They have been claiming this many times within this past year. This is false!

The debunkers seem so afraid of admitting Nancy Lieder is popular (many times actually denying it), even increasing in popularity (overall) that they loose credibility in the process. This is a debunkers dilemna. Afterall, it is their own graph and numbers that show the facts.
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This has all been around for discussion before and it's silly. People stare at car wrecks. Does that mean car wrecks are "popular"? Many people don't read Nancy's threads because they believe her- they read because they are fascinated by her perpetually delusional antics.
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This shows an increase in her popularity in that longer time frame ... right or wrong about the message. You will notice above, the new graph submitted by, I think, The Lone Ranger, doesn't even include last year's numbers for a comparison. That's the misleading part. Making a new graph does not make this go away.

The debunkers have for years now saying Nancy's popularity has been steadily deceasing ... your original graph shows this is not the case at all! Explain that, if you will. Try and be civil.

It may be misleading...but that doesn't mean it was intentional. It might simply be that Lone Ranger didn't go back that far. Therefore, you can't say "debunkers" are being deceitful. All you can say is that the information is misleading. I also need to add that whether Nancy is popular or not, it does not mean that she is right. Nor does it mean that people believe her either.

Lone Ranger...since you're good at making these charts, why don't you make one covering the last year if possible?





I have to disagree with you there. We have already discussed the disparments between this year and last year and what the trends showed. For him not to include last year' numbers after the discussions certainly shows a level of mislead OR plain deceit. The numbers do speak for themselves. AND, Nancy Being right is a red herring argument. Nobody is saying she is right in this argument. It is the debunkers that put forth these graphs, and it is THEM using these numbers in their arguments. Right or wrong doesn't matter with regards to the message. You guys want to use the numbers to prove something. You can't go back and say now that the numbers don't matter, OR that people don't or do believe her.


I guess you're saying it's like looking at charts of the DOW. If you look at just this year's chart, it's mostly up... but if you look at the chart over the last couple years... well, you get the drift.

I understand that argument, but I think it's a moot point. At one time Nancy was huge on C2C and shows like that. She had 'mainstream' appeal (at least, to mainstream tin foil heads). To even hint that her popularity is not fading is as big a delusion as those who think the earth is flat.




WRONG!

The number DO NOT say that.

Go back as far as you want to prove your point. You have not proven it here. The graphs show that yes, the debunker boycott is affecting her page views and replies this year, BUT also that compared to last year at this time her page views and replies have gone UP. That's hardly fading.
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Amazing how you won't follow through on any discussion about the facts of Nancy's claims, but you will spend all this energy arguing about whether she is "popular".

Heh!
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Yes, but even with the debunkers gone off of Nancy's threads right now she is STILL getting more page views and responses than last year at this time



What the hell difference does that make anyway? I don't care how many people are or are not looking at her threads, she's still completely wrong.




Stay with me, now.

You should ask the debunkers what difference it makes. Afterall, it is their graphs and argument. We're not talking about right or wrong here.
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Which is why you glom onto this issue. You can't logically support the claims Nancy makes, so you play THIS silly game instead.
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Just because people stop to look at a train wreck doesn't mean train wrecks are popular. There have been several polls and in all cases, the votes are against Nancy. Including ACs and suspected sock puppets, Nancy's following here is probably between 10 and 20 people. I would hardly call that popular. More people read because as humans we tend to have the morbid nature that makes us stop and look at the train wreck in progress.




You're deluded.

10 to 20 people is just "your" reality. This scares you so?

Thousands and thousands of page views per week (usually around 10,000) and this all by 10 to 20 people. Your excuses are comical!
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Anyone can rack up 100 "page views" in 5 minutes. Considering the obsession that a few people have with supporting Nancy, I'd say that is exactly what is happening.
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Just because people stop to look at a train wreck doesn't mean train wrecks are popular. There have been several polls and in all cases, the votes are against Nancy. Including ACs and suspected sock puppets, Nancy's following here is probably between 10 and 20 people. I would hardly call that popular. More people read because as humans we tend to have the morbid nature that makes us stop and look at the train wreck in progress.




You're deluded.

10 to 20 people is just "your" reality. This scares you so?

Thousands and thousands of page views per week (usually around 10,000) and this all by 10 to 20 people. Your excuses are comical!


Anyone can rack up 100 "page views" in 5 minutes. Considering the obsession that a few people have with supporting Nancy, I'd say that is exactly what is happening.
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That's what YOU say Menow.

Maybe it is what is happening ... maybe it is not. I say probably not.

The fact is, the graphs you guys are displaying and defending betray your point of view.
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Is Nancy in contact with what she has decided to call zetas, or is she simply conscious of her own mind, at least partly.


We've discussed this many times before. My take on it based on quite a bit of evidence from her chats is that while there is clearly some sort of pathology in play she is at some level consciously making this up and is aware she is doing so.
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Now that could be an interesting point of discussion, here is Nancy in 2000 from TT-Watch.

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..."But I'll tell you about a moaning/groaning begging-for-a-sign time when I was first deciding to make the moves I've done these past couple years. I'm getting up there, 60, not strong, not financially anything but on the edge, and my family (except for one person) is not supportive of what I do. So I wanted a SOLID SIGN from the Zetas before I burned bridges and moved to Wisco and all. "Give me a sign!!!""

"So, I had a visitation from Pumpkin heads (the big guys, see Zeta Types in Worlds) and they told me that when I went into my office I'd find the MUFON mags turned face down, not up as usual, and that would be my sign. So I went in, all excited, and they were face up. Got hysterical. Another visitation, and they said "this is why we don't give signs on demand! If they go wrong, or are perceived wrong, hysterics, etc." So I understood, not on demand. A week later I'm in a movie house, alone, trying to relax, and get the sense that a Zeta came in and sat beside me, and I'd find a candy wrapper in my pocket or some such. I was eating Star Bursts, glued shut cardboard box, welded plastic wrapper around individually wrapped pieces. You have to break your fingernails to get the candy, practially. So I'm eating along and get to the last piece. It's not individually wrapped in wax paper. Now, EVERY Star Burst is so wrapped, by machine, I have no doubt. So, I figured that was my sign, when I wasn't expecting it."
(tt-watch October 17, 2000)

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You can see the classical delusional dilemma here, the need for a "sign", the breakdown when one does not appear and the mental shifting of gears to create one from literally nothing.

Then the Paranoia.

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Our message, as you might have gauged, is not popular. We are effective in debate, which offends the stuffy elite of the scientific establishment who think of themselves as holding the key to knowledge. We abhor scams, especially when the scam is not innocent and will harm millions of innocents, including the children. Since our emissary, Nancy, is being protected in ways it would be unwise to divulge, those lying to mankind on the Usenets [ed: think primitive discussion forums] find themselves with an adversary they cannot silence! This enrages them.
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You can see the classical delusional dilemma here, the need for a "sign", the breakdown when one does not appear and the mental shifting of gears to create one from literally nothing.
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Very true....the "Zetas" could easily have put the magazines face down and made sure they stayed that way. Since it didn't happen, her mind made up an excuse. I'd really like to know why she thinks an unwrapped piece of candy is a sign. I've ordered fries at a fast food place and gotten one onion ring mixed in. Is that a sign?
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The fact is, the graphs you guys are displaying and defending betray your point of view.
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That's the way you see it. I do not.
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Wheres my good zeta friends?
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You can see the classical delusional dilemma here, the need for a "sign", the breakdown when one does not appear and the mental shifting of gears to create one from literally nothing.


Very true....the "Zetas" could easily have put the magazines face down and made sure they stayed that way. Since it didn't happen, her mind made up an excuse. I'd really like to know why she thinks an unwrapped piece of candy is a sign. I've ordered fries at a fast food place and gotten one onion ring mixed in. Is that a sign?
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Yes, and I've got a fritter mixed in my chips, was that a sign too?

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I'd really like to know why she thinks an unwrapped piece of candy is a sign.
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Anything would have sufficed as a sign, a momentary glitch in the audio, a flicker on the screen, there did not happen so again Nancy mentally invented a "something" to enhance her delusion.

Throughout zetatalk you will notice a lack of "imagination" in Nancy's mentality, despite her attendance at MUFON's Nancy was never a reader of science fiction, Doc. E. E. Smith (sometimes referred to as the father of "space opera") wrote the Lensman series, this would have given Nancy many plausible explanations for her Planet X and it's behavior, but Nancy's imagination is rooted in post WW2 learning.
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Exactly. She could have stumbled on a crack in the sidewalk and gotten the "feeling" that was her sign. So, what really makes her think an unwrapped piece of candy is a sign? It's not like her's was the first or last piece of candy to ever be found unwrapped.
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It just seems to me there have been many, many instances in her chats where Nancy has demonstrated that she is very aware of what questions the "Zetas" cannot answer--specifically whatever Nancy doesn't know anything about. There are also many cases (especially in the sci.astro days) where she has lost track of what "voice" she is speaking in.
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I think she knows on some level that it is all her, but she needs to continue the charade because it makes her feel important. It is quite clear that she has merged bad 50's sci fi with Betty and Barney Hill, when as has been pointed out, there is some good sci fi that would have been much more plausible.I would say she has thrown in a good measure of X Files conspiracy and paranoia too. What I find amazing is that some people accept the Starburst event as a sign from the Zetas.
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