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What I find amazing is that some people accept the Starburst event as a sign from the Zetas.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Are there people other than Nancy doing that? What have or would the followers of zetatalk say about that incident?

Zetas didn't give the sign. Then Nancy decided an unwrapped candy was the sign from the zetas. And people believe that? How could they?
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As each attempt by the elite to escape from earth during the shift is thwarted, will there come a time that they will embrace an end to the cover up to try and save themselves?

SOZT
The elite have been casting about for a solution for themselves, but the best seems to be bunkers near the surface, well stocked and well guarded. Of course these will be in enclaves where they can support each other. The solutions that have been contemplated, planned, tried and discarded include deep underground structures and escape to Mars. Escape to the Moon is being contemplated by a few, but not by most. The fact that the best opportunity would be to fund survival communities and live among those they have helped as equals never crosses their minds.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

Apparently, Nancy thinks the rich all have spacecraft and can go to just about anywhere they want. And funny how the "Zetas" know what goes on in the minds of every rich person on the planet but they can't tell when Nancy makes a mistake.

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I WANT a RICH PERSON spaceship!
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Why the present lull of the Earth changes? I feel that media somehow contribute to it, especially as despite chirping we occassionally get glimpses of what is going on behind this positivistic curtain – bolides classified, Tibetan glaciers melting at accelerating rate, weather... oh the weather!, etc, etc. At times it seems that they are almost frantically trying to divert attention to something fancy and virtually unimportant. It turned into a bizarro world. Can the Zetas give us some update on present progress of changes?

SOZT
There are many things formerly denied that have pressed forward to be obvious in the past few months. Electromagnetic interference with planes and trains is one such incidence, with the crash of Air France 447 and the DC Metro crash. Satellite interference is likewise becoming obvious to all but the oblivious. Earthquake have increased so that those locales that formerly only got quakes in a very low magnitude, barely perceptible, are now noticing them and the FACT that these quakes are occurring can no longer be hidden. Instead, we have alarm in places like Dallas, which does not think of itself as being on a fault line, when magnitude 2 and 3 quakes occur. Where the Earth wobble has not broken into the mainstream media, this will at some point occur when it can no longer be denied that the Sun is not rising or setting where expected.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

I see she's continuing on with her claims about flight 447 and the DC Metro crash even though she's been proven wrong and offers no evidence to back up her claims. And what satellite interference is she referring? Satellite TV continues to work just fine...as does GPS. She's also making the claim that earthquakes are on the increase...as is their strength even though all data available shows no such increase in numbers or intensity. She even went so far to claim that the sun is not rising and setting where expected...even though you can look at images from KatKam over the past three years and see no differences in setting locations.
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Nancy is even saying the Earth is now poised to be pushed back into an "August position" since being halted in orbit and goes so far as to accuse the poster of not doing their research:

Nancy, i was hoping you may be able to sort a couple of things out. I have been an avid Zetatalk reader for many years now.
I have found a lot of your work groundbreaking, intriguing and fascinating.
Lately there have been several things that have brought doubts in to my mind, and i after testing and research have deemed you wrong on several issues.
Please could you state that you may of possibly got mixed up or were wrong on these fronts.
1. The earth Stuck in its Orbit.
Please nancy, admit this to be some sort of human error in you understanding what the Zeta's were trying to say.
I took it for truth at first, but after personal testing, research and conversing, it is most definitely not the case.
It also gives the debunkers something that can corrupt the rest of the messages.
Can we get rid of this please?

SOZT
The Earth stopped in its orbit around December 25, 2003, and has been subsequently pushed back into the September position and is poised to push back into the August position. Whatever your personal testing has involved, you have not thought things through. See these links to prior ZetaTalk on the matter –
Apparent Precision
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Simulating the Seasons
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Solstice
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


It's obvious the only one not doing any research is Nancy herself.
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Hello Nancy,

1)Is there still a chance for the poleshift to happen in 2009?

2)Should we expect something big this summer?

NancyTalk: both these Q’s are declined as NO information that would give a clue as to the timeline is allowed by the Council of Worlds, and this includes warning of specific disasters or their timeline.
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

Quick translation: If nothing happens in 2012, she'll claim it was just a ruse (like the "white lie") and then won't make any more predictions as to when the "pole shift" will happen except to say, "Soon."

As for the second part of her statement, since the "Zetas" aren't warning of specific disasters or when they will happen, I don't see how she can then take any event and claim the "Zetas" predicted it when they just said they aren't making any such warnings or predictions.
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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??

SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


Well doesn't that just spill the beans. chuckle

NICE!
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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??

SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


Well doesn't that just spill the beans. chuckle

NICE!
 Quoting: Shine

23zetas3

zetas are always right.......
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[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

That its Mercury when its not... the next White Lie...

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So, any bets from anyone on what that next lie might be?
 Quoting: DrPostman

I think she'll change some words but essentially use the same excuse she did in 2003.
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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??

SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


Well doesn't that just spill the beans. chuckle

NICE!
 Quoting: Shine


Yep. As we predicted, she's already preparing for another "no show."
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Hi CB! And Prof Rabbit, and Lone Ranger... and any others I may have missed...

And User 78/68 I work, and have not been able to call you back... Can you hit me up Tuesday?

Love and Peace to ALL!
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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??

SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


Well doesn't that just spill the beans. chuckle

NICE!


Yep. As we predicted, she's already preparing for another "no show."
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

damn.......like..i ready for some excitment...after what i been thru..i could use a little shake rattle roll....
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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??

SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


Well doesn't that just spill the beans. chuckle

NICE!


Yep. As we predicted, she's already preparing for another "no show."
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



Or "a show"... do any of us really know which way it could ultimately play out?

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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??

SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


Well doesn't that just spill the beans. chuckle

NICE!


Yep. As we predicted, she's already preparing for another "no show."



Or "a show"... do any of us really know which way it could ultimately play out?

Peace
 Quoting: Earth420



Anyone who has mastered 8th grade math and high school physics knows the voices in the head of a senile, delusional old woman is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

But then not everyone has worked hard enough to master those ideas....
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Just because people stop to look at a train wreck doesn't mean train wrecks are popular. There have been several polls and in all cases, the votes are against Nancy. Including ACs and suspected sock puppets, Nancy's following here is probably between 10 and 20 people. I would hardly call that popular. More people read because as humans we tend to have the morbid nature that makes us stop and look at the train wreck in progress.




You're deluded.

10 to 20 people is just "your" reality. This scares you so?

Thousands and thousands of page views per week (usually around 10,000) and this all by 10 to 20 people. Your excuses are comical!


Anyone can rack up 100 "page views" in 5 minutes. Considering the obsession that a few people have with supporting Nancy, I'd say that is exactly what is happening.




That's what YOU say Menow.

Maybe it is what is happening ... maybe it is not. I say probably not.

The fact is, the graphs you guys are displaying and defending betray your point of view.
 Quoting: User # 78/68


It's hilarious how you ignore my other posts pointing out your obsession with this non-issue.
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Ah the Commentator! nice to see you too!

Nearby asteroid found orbiting sun backwards
Thread: Distant object found orbiting Sun backwards

Its so odd maybe... if anything were amiss tho... this thread showed how they discovered an orbiting backward asteroid some time back, put it out there... and then this one in May 2009... orbiting backwards...
[link to www.newscientist.com]

The discovery of a 2- to 3-kilometre-wide asteroid in an orbit that goes backwards has set astronomers scratching their heads. It comes closer to Earth than any other object in a 'retrograde' orbit, and astronomers think they should have spotted it before.

The object, called 2009 HC82, was discovered by the Catalina Sky Survey in Arizona on the morning of 29 April.

From observations of its position by five different groups, Sonia Keys of the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center initially calculated it orbits the sun every 3.39 years. New observations suggest it travels on a path that ventures within 15 million km of the Earth's orbit.

What's really unusual is that the calculated orbit is inclined 155° to the plane of the Earth's orbit. That means that as it orbits the Sun, it actually travels backwards compared to the planets. It is only the 20th asteroid known in a retrograde orbit, a very rare group. None of the others comes as close to the Earth.

'Missed it'
Comets, which originate on the outer fringes of the solar system, are much more likely to have retrograde orbits than asteroids. In part, this is because passing stars or planets can kick them out of their original orbits and onto unusual paths, bringing them into the inner solar system, where we tend to see them.

Some retrograde asteroids may in fact be burnt-out comets, says Brian Marsden of the Minor Planet Center. The size and shape of the new asteroid's orbit "is very like Encke's comet except for inclination," he told New Scientist, although it shows no sign of a cometary tail.

The asteroid is now far beyond Mars, but its orbit periodically brings it fairly close to Earth. "It should have been easily observable in 2000," says Marsden. "I'm puzzled by the fact that we haven't seen it before, because it should have been moderately bright on several occasions. We just missed it."

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Ah the Commentator! nice to see you too!

Nearby asteroid found orbiting sun backwards
Thread: Distant object found orbiting Sun backwards

Its so odd maybe... if anything were amiss tho... this thread showed how they discovered an orbiting backward asteroid some time back, put it out there... and then this one in May 2009... orbiting backwards...
[link to www.newscientist.com]


The universe is so full of marvels and wonders it's strange
that some people feel that need to invent things instead of
seeing how amazing the heavens really are.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Ah Dr Postman! :)

Some are sooo busy in there lives they dont even pause for one moment to look at the night skies...

sigh

We are not of that type now are we? hehe

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Ah the Commentator! nice to see you too!

Nearby asteroid found orbiting sun backwards
Thread: Distant object found orbiting Sun backwards

Its so odd maybe... if anything were amiss tho... this thread showed how they discovered an orbiting backward asteroid some time back, put it out there... and then this one in May 2009... orbiting backwards...
[link to www.newscientist.com]

The discovery of a 2- to 3-kilometre-wide asteroid in an orbit that goes backwards has set astronomers scratching their heads. It comes closer to Earth than any other object in a 'retrograde' orbit, and astronomers think they should have spotted it before.

The object, called 2009 HC82, was discovered by the Catalina Sky Survey in Arizona on the morning of 29 April.

From observations of its position by five different groups, Sonia Keys of the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center initially calculated it orbits the sun every 3.39 years. New observations suggest it travels on a path that ventures within 15 million km of the Earth's orbit.

What's really unusual is that the calculated orbit is inclined 155° to the plane of the Earth's orbit. That means that as it orbits the Sun, it actually travels backwards compared to the planets. It is only the 20th asteroid known in a retrograde orbit, a very rare group. None of the others comes as close to the Earth.

'Missed it'
Comets, which originate on the outer fringes of the solar system, are much more likely to have retrograde orbits than asteroids. In part, this is because passing stars or planets can kick them out of their original orbits and onto unusual paths, bringing them into the inner solar system, where we tend to see them.

Some retrograde asteroids may in fact be burnt-out comets, says Brian Marsden of the Minor Planet Center. The size and shape of the new asteroid's orbit "is very like Encke's comet except for inclination," he told New Scientist, although it shows no sign of a cometary tail.

The asteroid is now far beyond Mars, but its orbit periodically brings it fairly close to Earth. "It should have been easily observable in 2000," says Marsden. "I'm puzzled by the fact that we haven't seen it before, because it should have been moderately bright on several occasions. We just missed it."

Peace
 Quoting: Earth420



Small bodies in retrograde orbits or highly inclined orbits are hardly new, or unknown.

I can only presume they are new to you and you attach some importance to this that the facts do not justify.

Does that about cover it?
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And that ultimatley, no matter our beliefs or how we view things... that we are part of something... something SO MUCH BIGGER...
And we are connected and try to explain it or find reason for it and what it means...
And in the end we just ARE... we just BE...

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I am glad you are who you are The Commentator...

I guess something like that is not rare enough for you or that we know all there is about it...

My point being we dont have it all figured out... and it can leave some scratching their heads...

Peace to you and yours...
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I am glad you are who you are The Commentator...

I guess something like that is not rare enough for you or that we know all there is about it...

My point being we dont have it all figured out... and it can leave some scratching their heads...

Peace to you and yours...
 Quoting: Earth420



Not having it all figured out is a helluva lot different than not having ANY of it figured out.

And so far there has not been one single new fact from zetababble. not one. There has been a whole host of nonsense claims that even a grade school child can poke holes in.

Apparently you have never heard of the group called Damocloids, after the first such object discovered, 5333 Damocles, a family of asteroids in high inclination, eccentric orbits. Over 20 are known.

But of course the zetas don't know anything about these because the zetas are voices in the head of a senile, delusional old woman, not a race of sentient beings.
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NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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You can see the classical delusional dilemma here, the need for a "sign", the breakdown when one does not appear and the mental shifting of gears to create one from literally nothing.


Very true....the "Zetas" could easily have put the magazines face down and made sure they stayed that way. Since it didn't happen, her mind made up an excuse. I'd really like to know why she thinks an unwrapped piece of candy is a sign. I've ordered fries at a fast food place and gotten one onion ring mixed in. Is that a sign?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


So the "Zetas" who can allegedly tilt the Earth at will and tow Venus around whenever they want, can't turn a magazine over?

Heh!
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Why the present lull of the Earth changes? I feel that media somehow contribute to it, especially as despite chirping we occassionally get glimpses of what is going on behind this positivistic curtain – bolides classified, Tibetan glaciers melting at accelerating rate, weather... oh the weather!, etc, etc. At times it seems that they are almost frantically trying to divert attention to something fancy and virtually unimportant. It turned into a bizarro world. Can the Zetas give us some update on present progress of changes?

SOZT
There are many things formerly denied that have pressed forward to be obvious in the past few months. Electromagnetic interference with planes and trains is one such incidence, with the crash of Air France 447 and the DC Metro crash. Satellite interference is likewise becoming obvious to all but the oblivious. Earthquake have increased so that those locales that formerly only got quakes in a very low magnitude, barely perceptible, are now noticing them and the FACT that these quakes are occurring can no longer be hidden. Instead, we have alarm in places like Dallas, which does not think of itself as being on a fault line, when magnitude 2 and 3 quakes occur. Where the Earth wobble has not broken into the mainstream media, this will at some point occur when it can no longer be denied that the Sun is not rising or setting where expected.
EOZT

I see she's continuing on with her claims about flight 447 and the DC Metro crash even though she's been proven wrong and offers no evidence to back up her claims. And what satellite interference is she referring? Satellite TV continues to work just fine...as does GPS. She's also making the claim that earthquakes are on the increase...as is their strength even though all data available shows no such increase in numbers or intensity. She even went so far to claim that the sun is not rising and setting where expected...even though you can look at images from KatKam over the past three years and see no differences in setting locations.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Nancy has been claiming a "dramatic increase" in earthquakes since 1995. No one should be able to stand up by now.
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Well, another chat come and gone.

Really, 2012 CAN'T come fast enough. Honestly.
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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??
SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


Well doesn't that just spill the beans. chuckle
NICE!


Yep. I was about to post the same thing. I've been saying for
years that when it gets close to 2012 another Great White Lie
would be forthcoming.

So, any bets from anyone on what that next lie might be?
 Quoting: DrPostman


Is that a quote from today's chat? If so, that is what we have been saying she would do all along.
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You can see the classical delusional dilemma here, the need for a "sign", the breakdown when one does not appear and the mental shifting of gears to create one from literally nothing.


Very true....the "Zetas" could easily have put the magazines face down and made sure they stayed that way. Since it didn't happen, her mind made up an excuse. I'd really like to know why she thinks an unwrapped piece of candy is a sign. I've ordered fries at a fast food place and gotten one onion ring mixed in. Is that a sign?


So the "Zetas" who can allegedly tilt the Earth at will and tow Venus around whenever they want, can't turn a magazine over?

Heh!
 Quoting: Menow 405501



Logic is seldom the strong suit of senile, delusional old women.
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"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

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NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
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NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Is that a quote from today's chat? If so, that is what we have been saying she would do all along.
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Yep. 5th page, about half way down.
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Is that a quote from today's chat? If so, that is what we have been saying she would do all along.
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Yep. Page 5 or 6.
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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??
SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


Well doesn't that just spill the beans. chuckle
NICE!


Yep. I was about to post the same thing. I've been saying for
years that when it gets close to 2012 another Great White Lie
would be forthcoming.

So, any bets from anyone on what that next lie might be?
 Quoting: DrPostman



She'll just yell "Psych!!"

No, seriously, we'll have to get closer to 2012, and then she'll have to explain how Obama is now a puppet of the evil gubbmint, because she's pro-Obama but anti-establishment, and he knows but won't say anything about PX, but isn't part of the coverup...

My head is spinning.

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