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Precisely. When you use language as loosely as Nancy's Zetacrap it can be 'spun' to mean whatever she likes. Nancy is good at one thing only, and that is spinning bullshit.


I used TERMS interchangeably, but my language overall was clear: I always defined what I meant by the term at the time. I have now switched to the technical uses instead of merely using them as laypeople do, and yet I still define what I mean each time.

Are you so "spun" that you can't see that?

Anyway, :)
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No, you MIS-USE language to suit your objective of making it almost impossible to work out what you are trying to say, and also probably because you are extremely stupid. You may THINK you know what you are writing about, but your pathetic inability to correctly construct even simple sentences gives away your true mental incapacity.
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But this is obfuscation of the distinctions at each order of superpositional distinction, if we want to talk of the latter. Which we were.


DING DING DING... Returner... NEW Clare-inition!


You a**holes.

You give no-one credit for using every possible word which can be used, to show you what is meant:

I meant superpostion AND level of distinction, which are the same thing, expresed in two ways, so you can see I know what superposition means AND have been making this distinction ALL ALONG.

So stfu, please.
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Clare, it's TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT, like nearly everything you write!

You are lost in a world of meaningless drivel.
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Clare's Definitions, Part IX:

INTERLOQUITOR - One who feigns considerable knowledge in a field of study, but who is actually a slightly drunk ferret with access to a keyboard.
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As to Nancy lying, I think she is confused and doesn't get many of the higher-order points in science
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That would certainly describe you. You don't even get the basics.
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Nancy has even advised people to have themselves "fixed" so they can't reproduce. Can you imagine the anger if someone were to take her advice and then realize that it's all a scam?
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That's the one bit of advice that Nancy has given that I would agree with, as far as her 'followers' are concerned! That would be a major contribution to Humanity!
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... useless words

so you are saying `it rotates' then
forget the word salad (which nobody except you seems to think is impressing us on your `massive intellect')

thank you- you finally admit that if you stand on the moons axis point- you can clearly see that the starfield rotates around you- hence the moon rotates


I said this on day 2 when I realized what viewpoint you were talking of and the forces you were talking of.

What I am asking of YOUR useless words, since you missed the point entirely long ago ...

is, if all other motions stopped, would the angular momentum of the Moon break its tidal lock with the Earth and start to rotate then -- truly rotate RELATIVE TO EARTH?




YES!!!! The moon has angular momentum of its own and will continue to rotate relative to the rest of the universe even if other motions were stopped seperately.
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Clare:

This is what we have been trying to say all along. I think you may finally be able to “image” what we have been explaining to you by our answer to your specific question above. Tidal lock is more “synchronization” or “entrainment” than “locking”. Spin does not cease when a body becomes tidally locked.

Something tells me that you may understand this now…No? IMO, I don’t think you’re trolling. I just think you had a blockage in the form of a mental image that you had trouble resolving. Additionally, I think you would regain some respect if you returned and admitted that you finally realize and understand what we have been trying to explain to you.

Cheers
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What happened to the Views on this thread??

It used to be a top 10 thread?????
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What happened to the Views on this thread??

It used to be a top 10 thread?????
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Long story.
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Clare:

This is what we have been trying to say all along.

Something tells me that you may understand this now…No?

Cheers
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I expect a little more 'conflatin' is comin' up directly!
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Don't be hatin'!
Be CONFLATIN'!
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Conflators UNITE!
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... useless words

so you are saying `it rotates' then
forget the word salad (which nobody except you seems to think is impressing us on your `massive intellect')

thank you- you finally admit that if you stand on the moons axis point- you can clearly see that the starfield rotates around you- hence the moon rotates


I said this on day 2 when I realized what viewpoint you were talking of and the forces you were talking of.

What I am asking of YOUR useless words, since you missed the point entirely long ago ...

is, if all other motions stopped, would the angular momentum of the Moon break its tidal lock with the Earth and start to rotate then -- truly rotate RELATIVE TO EARTH?




YES!!!! The moon has angular momentum of its own and will continue to rotate relative to the rest of the universe even if other motions were stopped seperately.


Clare:

This is what we have been trying to say all along. I think you may finally be able to “image” what we have been explaining to you by our answer to your specific question above. Tidal lock is more “synchronization” or “entrainment” than “locking”. Spin does not cease when a body becomes tidally locked.

Something tells me that you may understand this now…No? IMO, I don’t think you’re trolling. I just think you had a blockage in the form of a mental image that you had trouble resolving. Additionally, I think you would regain some respect if you returned and admitted that you finally realize and understand what we have been trying to explain to you.

Cheers
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Libration demonstrates the looseness of the "lock" in tidal locking.
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Or the simple fact that contrails don't leave cloudy trails more than a few dozen seconds?




Not true. Check with any astronomy club and you will find that the length of time that contrails stay visible is a direct measure of the amount of humidity in the atmosphere at that level, or the ability of the atmosphere at that level to hold moisture. That is a perfect indicator for how transparent the sky will be that night.

The length of time that contrails stay together is completely dependent on the moisture content of the atmosphere. On dry days, they disappear quickly. On humid days, they linger longer...sometimes many minutes. Because they simply ARE WATER VAPOR.
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Funny thing about that . . . I have watched the trails of aircraft on the same day at different altitudes . . . the lower one has a normal contrail the higher one has an enormous contrail that eventually 'conflates' (Ha, Ha) into a huge cloud and then another higher aircraft that has a dissipating contrail. I have no doubt there are unexplainable artifacts in the sky that are not due to humidity variations. They are due to some other cause. Much discussion regarding Chemtrails is totally legitimate and you are no one will convince me otherwise. I know what a contrail is . . . I was in the Air Force for many years. There are many examples of anomalous trails in the sky all over the world . . . and they were not there in 1973.
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the lower one


the higher one


then another higher aircraft



no one will convince me otherwise.


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In spite of what YOU just wrote!
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the lower one


the higher one


then another higher aircraft



no one will convince me otherwise.




In spite of what YOU just wrote!
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Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

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Other interesting links and details of tidal locking:

[link to csep10.phys.utk.edu]

"In the case of the Earth-Moon system the synchronization is not yet complete. The Earth is slowly decreasing its rotational period and eventually the Earth and Moon will have exactly the same rotational period, and these will also exactly equal the orbital period. At the same time, the separation between the Earth and Moon will slowly increase in just such a way as to conserve angular momentum for the entire system."

"Thus, billions of years from now the Earth will always keep the same face turned toward the Moon, just as the Moon already always keeps the same face turned toward the Earth. We will encounter other examples of such tidal locking in other pairs of objects in the Solar System."

[link to www.conservapedia.com]

"Tidal locking is the process by which two bodies in an orbital relationship will, over time, come to show the same face to one another. In other words, the period of rotation about the axis of the body will come to match the body's orbital period."

[link to www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu]

The early Moon rotated much faster:
This means it was rotating through its tidal bulge.
This generated tremendous internal friction, slowing the Moon's rotation.
Eventually, the Moon's rotation slowed until it matched its orbital period, and the friction stopped.
The end result is that the Moon got Tidally Locked in Synchronous Rotation.
This is why the Moon always keeps the same face towards the Earth, as we saw back in Lecture 8.

Because the rotation and orbit periods are the same, we say that the Moon is locked in a 1:1 Tidal Resonance with the Earth.

"The Once and Future Moon
Lunar Recession and Tidal Braking of the Earth's rotation are coupled: the rotational energy being taken from the Earth in braking is effectively being transferred, via tides, to the Moon. This extra energy lifts it into a higher orbit.

As a result:

The Day gets longer by about 1.7 milliseconds every 100 years [20.3]
The Moon recedes by about 3.84 meters/century.
After a many Billions of years, this could potentially add up until:
The Moon will be ~50% farther away from the Earth
The Lunar Sidereal Month will be about 47 days long
The Earth's rotation period (the day) will be 47 days long
The Earth & Moon would then be locked together in a 1:1 Tidal Resonance, and always keep the same face towards each other.
Once the Earth and Moon are tidally locked, further tidal evolution should stop. However, remember that the Earth and Moon orbit the Sun, and so tidal effects from the Sun will come into play, and continue to evolve the Earth-Moon system dynamically."

[link to www.lunarpedia.org]

"Tidal Lock refers to the condition in which an object has the same rotational period as its orbital period. As a result, the object always shows the same face towards its orbital center. The cause of tidal lock is tidal drag or tidal acceleration, which is a force created in an object spinning at a different rate from its orbital rate due to the bulge (tidal bulge) which forms in the surface of the object due to the gravitational pull of the orbital center."

"In an object where the rate of rotation is different than the orbital period, the tidal bulge moves across the planets surface. The tidal drag results from mechanical resistance in the the surface material as it is being distorted to form the bulge and later as the bulge collapses. The energy which supplies the force necessary to overcome the surface's mechanical resistance comes from the rotational energy of the orbiting object itself."

"Over an extended period of time, the tidal drag will cause the orbitting object to slow its rotation period until the tidal bulge of the orbitting object becomes stationary relative to the object's surface."
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Or the simple fact that contrails don't leave cloudy trails more than a few dozen seconds?




Not true. Check with any astronomy club and you will find that the length of time that contrails stay visible is a direct measure of the amount of humidity in the atmosphere at that level, or the ability of the atmosphere at that level to hold moisture. That is a perfect indicator for how transparent the sky will be that night.

The length of time that contrails stay together is completely dependent on the moisture content of the atmosphere. On dry days, they disappear quickly. On humid days, they linger longer...sometimes many minutes. Because they simply ARE WATER VAPOR.

Funny thing about that . . . I have watched the trails of aircraft on the same day at different altitudes . . . the lower one has a normal contrail the higher one has an enormous contrail that eventually 'conflates' (Ha, Ha) into a huge cloud and then another higher aircraft that has a dissipating contrail. I have no doubt there are unexplainable artifacts in the sky that are not due to humidity variations. They are due to some other cause. Much discussion regarding Chemtrails is totally legitimate and you are no one will convince me otherwise. I know what a contrail is . . . I was in the Air Force for many years. There are many examples of anomalous trails in the sky all over the world . . . and they were not there in 1973.
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What "anomalous" examples would those be? And you do realize, don't you, that contrails were a huge concern in WW2 as they exposed the presence of jet aircraft that may not otherwise be seen.
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the lower one


the higher one


then another higher aircraft



no one will convince me otherwise.




In spite of what YOU just wrote!


Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
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Bullshit. Outright lie.
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Other interesting links and details of tidal locking:

[link to csep10.phys.utk.edu]

"In the case of the Earth-Moon system the synchronization is not yet complete. The Earth is slowly decreasing its rotational period and eventually the Earth and Moon will have exactly the same rotational period, and these will also exactly equal the orbital period. At the same time, the separation between the Earth and Moon will slowly increase in just such a way as to conserve angular momentum for the entire system."

"Thus, billions of years from now the Earth will always keep the same face turned toward the Moon, just as the Moon already always keeps the same face turned toward the Earth. We will encounter other examples of such tidal locking in other pairs of objects in the Solar System."

[link to www.conservapedia.com]

"Tidal locking is the process by which two bodies in an orbital relationship will, over time, come to show the same face to one another. In other words, the period of rotation about the axis of the body will come to match the body's orbital period."

[link to www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu]

The early Moon rotated much faster:
This means it was rotating through its tidal bulge.
This generated tremendous internal friction, slowing the Moon's rotation.
Eventually, the Moon's rotation slowed until it matched its orbital period, and the friction stopped.
The end result is that the Moon got Tidally Locked in Synchronous Rotation.
This is why the Moon always keeps the same face towards the Earth, as we saw back in Lecture 8.

Because the rotation and orbit periods are the same, we say that the Moon is locked in a 1:1 Tidal Resonance with the Earth.

"The Once and Future Moon
Lunar Recession and Tidal Braking of the Earth's rotation are coupled: the rotational energy being taken from the Earth in braking is effectively being transferred, via tides, to the Moon. This extra energy lifts it into a higher orbit.

As a result:

The Day gets longer by about 1.7 milliseconds every 100 years [20.3]
The Moon recedes by about 3.84 meters/century.
After a many Billions of years, this could potentially add up until:
The Moon will be ~50% farther away from the Earth
The Lunar Sidereal Month will be about 47 days long
The Earth's rotation period (the day) will be 47 days long
The Earth & Moon would then be locked together in a 1:1 Tidal Resonance, and always keep the same face towards each other.
Once the Earth and Moon are tidally locked, further tidal evolution should stop. However, remember that the Earth and Moon orbit the Sun, and so tidal effects from the Sun will come into play, and continue to evolve the Earth-Moon system dynamically."

[link to www.lunarpedia.org]

"Tidal Lock refers to the condition in which an object has the same rotational period as its orbital period. As a result, the object always shows the same face towards its orbital center. The cause of tidal lock is tidal drag or tidal acceleration, which is a force created in an object spinning at a different rate from its orbital rate due to the bulge (tidal bulge) which forms in the surface of the object due to the gravitational pull of the orbital center."

"In an object where the rate of rotation is different than the orbital period, the tidal bulge moves across the planets surface. The tidal drag results from mechanical resistance in the the surface material as it is being distorted to form the bulge and later as the bulge collapses. The energy which supplies the force necessary to overcome the surface's mechanical resistance comes from the rotational energy of the orbiting object itself."

"Over an extended period of time, the tidal drag will cause the orbitting object to slow its rotation period until the tidal bulge of the orbitting object becomes stationary relative to the object's surface."
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Excellent! This stuff is well written and should be a perfect demonstration to Clare of how to use scientific language clearly to explain a point.

Will she learn anything from it, either in terms of its clarity, proper use of English, or rational sense and basis in observed fact?

I doubt it.
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Or the simple fact that contrails don't leave cloudy trails more than a few dozen seconds?




Not true. Check with any astronomy club and you will find that the length of time that contrails stay visible is a direct measure of the amount of humidity in the atmosphere at that level, or the ability of the atmosphere at that level to hold moisture. That is a perfect indicator for how transparent the sky will be that night.

The length of time that contrails stay together is completely dependent on the moisture content of the atmosphere. On dry days, they disappear quickly. On humid days, they linger longer...sometimes many minutes. Because they simply ARE WATER VAPOR.

Funny thing about that . . . I have watched the trails of aircraft on the same day at different altitudes . . . the lower one has a normal contrail the higher one has an enormous contrail that eventually 'conflates' (Ha, Ha) into a huge cloud and then another higher aircraft that has a dissipating contrail. I have no doubt there are unexplainable artifacts in the sky that are not due to humidity variations. They are due to some other cause. Much discussion regarding Chemtrails is totally legitimate and you are no one will convince me otherwise. I know what a contrail is . . . I was in the Air Force for many years. There are many examples of anomalous trails in the sky all over the world . . . and they were not there in 1973.



What "anomalous" examples would those be? And you do realize, don't you, that contrails were a huge concern in WW2 as they exposed the presence of jet aircraft that may not otherwise be seen.
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They were concerns for all military aircraft then and now . . . jet or reciprocating engines.
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the lower one


the higher one


then another higher aircraft



no one will convince me otherwise.




In spite of what YOU just wrote!


Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.

Bullshit. Outright lie.
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And just how are you going to prove that my friend?
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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[link to www.borderlands.com]

"If a jet is flying through air at altitude with a low humidity, the moist air from the jet engine might produce a slight, short-lived contrail. These short-lived contrails are a sign that the weather will be fair. A thick, long-lasting contrail indicates humid air high in the atmosphere, and can be an early sign of a storm:"

[link to www.airspacemag.com]

"Sometimes an airplane leaves no contrail at all, or an extremely short one—an indication that the air at cruise altitude is probably dry. There must be enough water molecules in the air to condense and freeze—in other words, the relative humidity must be 100 percent or greater. In dry air, any ice crystals that form would immediately evaporate."

"Even if the air is moist enough, it might not be cold enough. At typical contrail-friendly altitudes, between about 28,000 and 40,000 feet, temperatures run from about –36 to –76 degrees. If the airplane leaves a long trail, you can assume that the air is not only cold but humid, allowing the ice crystals to persist. If the contrail stops, then starts up again, creating a broken line, chances are the airplane flew through a dry patch."

So BOTH humidity and temperature determine the length and longevity of contrails. There can be NUMEROUS changes in both in a single column of air.
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Work and reality both calling.

Adios for a while.
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the lower one


the higher one


then another higher aircraft



no one will convince me otherwise.




In spite of what YOU just wrote!


Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.

Bullshit. Outright lie.



And just how are you going to prove that my friend?
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On its face, it is ludecrous, since YOU can prove no such experience.
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the lower one


the higher one


then another higher aircraft



no one will convince me otherwise.




In spite of what YOU just wrote!


Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.

Bullshit. Outright lie.



And just how are you going to prove that my friend?


On its face, it is ludecrous, since YOU can prove no such experience.
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I stand on what I stated ... you can not prove otherwise.
I am not running away I have an appointment . . . we will talk later.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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the lower one


the higher one


then another higher aircraft



no one will convince me otherwise.




In spite of what YOU just wrote!


Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.

Bullshit. Outright lie.



And just how are you going to prove that my friend?


On its face, it is ludecrous, since YOU can prove no such experience.

I stand on what I stated ... you can not prove otherwise.
I am not running away I have an appointment . . . we will talk later.
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Right... I'm required to DISprove your anecdotal claim.

That's rich!
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One last thought...


Comeonoverbaby.... whole lotta conFLATIN' goin' on!
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I insist that Clare post a pic of herself, so that her hotness may be evaluated by a panel of unbiased observers.

Clare, in the interest of TRUTH and the prusuit of REASON, are you willing?
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Wat are the Ningies claiming today?
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Wat are the Ningies claiming today?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882391



An immense database of information on pole shift survival has become available.

<snip>

... navigate when your compass is worthless.
[link to ps-survival.com]

 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


And that page includes these articles!


Build_Your_Own_Sextant_Out_Of_A_Cd_2004.pdf

Considerations_On_The_Viking_Sun_Compass_2004.pdf

Sundials_2004.pdf

Sundial_Design_And_Construction_2004.pdf

The_Sun_Compass_2004.pdf

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