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Oh crapazoid!

Go learning.

I am telling you facts.

Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -- and work on it over many shows, refining the work, correcting issues, and so on. They provide multiple pages and links.

As to April's "SPECULATION", you seem not to understand that a witness who is of sane mind, within 40-80 feet f a jet crash (expecially in any kind of semi-enclosed air corridor) would have to smell jet fuel.

This is NATURE. Thus, the witness stands.


As to saying John Lear is bonkers, you are wrong. He believes some wild things about space missions, because he has been told things by intelligence insiders and a) they lie, b) they've been lied to, c) some things are fishy about NASA.

But on planes and crashes and flight paths, it was his LIFE'S WORK, long before he got interested in UFOs and so on after.

As to the pieces of the planes on the Pentalawn, and the tarp with men carrying something out -- it was one of the promoted photos -- and so on, do your own research.

Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]

But I suggest you actually look at the Websites recommended over hundreds of hours of Jim's shows. Not everything pans out, but most does. I have done the work of listening and lookng and thinking on it and don't have it all on file. I remember the basic facts and ones which check out ... so do your own work on it.

NO JET FUEL, NO PARTS (at first), PARALLAX PROBLEMS, WITNESS PROBLEMS, SOUND TRACK PROBLEMS, PERFECT CUT-OUT PICS OF PLANES (Shanksville and South Tower), etc.

Gimme a break.
Oh! Coffee. Gonna have some.

If I go listen to all the work again, I will post the links as I rediscover them. I have some things to do now. Don't worry, if I bother, you'll have them.

They're there though.

xo!
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I'd guess you base your belief in chemtrails on silly Youtube videos, and it wouldn't really be a 'guess' since you already cited some of them which contain obviously false information.

Since I am so very simple and an obvious easy mark, using obviously bogus evidence, why don't you take my challenge . . . no, no, don't say it . . . it is a waste of my time! You take time to respond to almost every post posted here . . . what is the difference?



Why don't you present some REAL evidence, George?

Why don't you present an analysis of a chemtrail and a contrail taken in situ?

Oh wait, no one has bothered to do that, have they?

Until you do, you are just ranting in the night.

Not a bad idea . . . is there a way to use laser technology to do some type of remote mass spectrometry? Sorry, I have to run . . . see you all later.
 Quoting: George B



A remote analysis is not, BY DEFINITION, the analysis of a sample taken in situ.

Look, this is a scientific question, and will yeild to the scientific method.

It will not be settled by a majority vote.

So unless you have a chemical analysis of an in situ sample of an ordinary contrail and the same analysis of a sample of a chemtrail, and there is a proper chain of custody, you are just waving your arms and ranting.

So get the fucking samples, have the analysis done and settle the question once and for all.

But the chemheads won't do that, too much chance their favorite delusion will be shot down, and you wouldn't want that, now would you?
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So the dozens of people who saw an aircraft hit the Pentagon
are all wrong?

[snip for brevity]

I refuse to argue with idiots that claim there were no aircraft. I believe what these witness say they saw and I
refuse to engage in this any further.
 Quoting: DrPostman

Dear Sir, [link to www.combatreform.org]

As to the people who saw the plane which did the FLYOVER (from its black box analysis by Pilots: Main site: [link to pilotsfor911truth.org] Black Box info: Film 1/2 way down page: "Flight of American 77" and their PRESS RELEASE: [link to pilotsfor911truth.org] ) ... a team calling itself "CIT" has investigated the only witnesses who were near a lanmark for the flyover path and 4 or 5 have said they saw the plane approach from the North of the Citgo station.

This you can look up yourself and watch the hour or two video with all the witnes testimony and why it's key and more reliable than anyone to the south or on the highway.

Clare
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Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -
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Doing that is no doubt part of your problem.
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Oh crapazoid!

Go learning.

I am telling you facts.

Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -- and work on it over many shows, refining the work, correcting issues, and so on. They provide multiple pages and links.

As to April's "SPECULATION", you seem not to understand that a witness who is of sane mind, within 40-80 feet f a jet crash (expecially in any kind of semi-enclosed air corridor) would have to smell jet fuel.

This is NATURE. Thus, the witness stands.


As to saying John Lear is bonkers, you are wrong. He believes some wild things about space missions, because he has been told things by intelligence insiders and a) they lie, b) they've been lied to, c) some things are fishy about NASA.

But on planes and crashes and flight paths, it was his LIFE'S WORK, long before he got interested in UFOs and so on after.

As to the pieces of the planes on the Pentalawn, and the tarp with men carrying something out -- it was one of the promoted photos -- and so on, do your own research.

Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]

But I suggest you actually look at the Websites recommended over hundreds of hours of Jim's shows. Not everything pans out, but most does. I have done the work of listening and lookng and thinking on it and don't have it all on file. I remember the basic facts and ones which check out ... so do your own work on it.

NO JET FUEL, NO PARTS (at first), PARALLAX PROBLEMS, WITNESS PROBLEMS, SOUND TRACK PROBLEMS, PERFECT CUT-OUT PICS OF PLANES (Shanksville and South Tower), etc.

Gimme a break.
Oh! Coffee. Gonna have some.

If I go listen to all the work again, I will post the links as I rediscover them. I have some things to do now. Don't worry, if I bother, you'll have them.

They're there though.

xo!
 Quoting: mclarek 986233



So let me get this straight, you cite JOHN LEAR, who is either A) a notorious liar, or B) barking mad as an "expert" source?

You are even more gullible than I thought. Your gullibility is now approaching the point of pathology, and your knowledge of aviation, astronomy, scientific method and critical thinking remains constant, that is undetectable by any current analytical method.

Seek professional help, and retain an attorney to get your money back from whatever grade school you attended, they clearly failed to teach you anything.
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Oh crapazoid!

Go learning.

I am telling you facts.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233

No, you are making claims, but refusing to provide any evidence whatsoever. Theres a difference.

Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -- and work on it over many shows, refining the work, correcting issues, and so on. They provide multiple pages and links.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233

Why should I? Its just more of the same unsupported claims repeated again, and again, and again.

If you cannot present and defend your own claims in your own words, then why should I waste my bandwidth on someone elses pointless "u-choob" nonsense?

As to April's "SPECULATION", you seem not to understand that a witness who is of sane mind, within 40-80 feet f a jet crash (expecially in any kind of semi-enclosed air corridor) would have to smell jet fuel.

This is NATURE. Thus, the witness stands.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


In brief, look up PTSD.

As to saying John Lear is bonkers, you are wrong. He believes some wild things about space missions, because he has been told things by intelligence insiders and a) they lie, b) they've been lied to, c) some things are fishy about NASA.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233

Once again, wild claim, but no evidence. Take a look at the utter crap he has posted on apollohoax.net, or ats, or take your pick of the websites. It's just stupid.

But on planes and crashes and flight paths, it was his LIFE'S WORK, long before he got interested in UFOs and so on after.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233

And that is likely his downfall.

As to the pieces of the planes on the Pentalawn, and the tarp with men carrying something out -- it was one of the promoted photos -- and so on, do your own research.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233

This has been trashed so often that I blush in embarrassment for you.

Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]

But I suggest you actually look at the Websites recommended over hundreds of hours of Jim's shows. Not everything pans out, but most does. I have done the work of listening and lookng and thinking on it and don't have it all on file. I remember the basic facts and ones which check out ... so do your own work on it.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233

Oh God, now you are promoting David dIcke fanboys. This will not win credibility for you.

NO JET FUEL, NO PARTS (at first), PARALLAX PROBLEMS, WITNESS PROBLEMS, SOUND TRACK PROBLEMS, PERFECT CUT-OUT PICS OF PLANES (Shanksville and South Tower), etc.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


Claim after claim after claim. Evidence? None.

Gimme a break.
Oh! Coffee. Gonna have some.

If I go listen to all the work again, I will post the links as I rediscover them. I have some things to do now. Don't worry, if I bother, you'll have them.

They're there though.

xo!
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Ya really have nothing, do ya?
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Ya really have nothing, do ya?
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I would disagree, she clearly has SOMETHING, but not being a mental health professional I am damned if I know what it is called, but clearly she has a quite advanced case of whatever it is.
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Ya really have nothing, do ya?



I would disagree, she clearly has SOMETHING, but not being a mental health professional I am damned if I know what it is called, but clearly she has a quite advanced case of whatever it is.
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LOL OK will concede that.

Honestly, can't give it a name either, but it is entertaining.
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Ya really have nothing, do ya?



I would disagree, she clearly has SOMETHING, but not being a mental health professional I am damned if I know what it is called, but clearly she has a quite advanced case of whatever it is.

LOL OK will concede that.

Honestly, can't give it a name either, but it is entertaining.
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Entertaining it most certainly is! ;-)
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No, unlike me and LUNAR LOSS OF LOCK WHEN PHYSICALLY STOPPED.

Hmm?

I admit to not knowing that.
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Clare, this is how I see it:

There are 3 levels of understanding the moon's appearance from earth:
1) The 7 year old's view: They see the same face of the moon presented and determine that the moon does not rotate on its axis.
2) The high schooler's view: They see the same thing. They can visualize in 3D and realize that if the moon orbits the earth then it must rotate on its own axis to explain what is seen from earth.
3) The science major at university student's view: The same as the high schooler's except they know enough physics to mathematically model the motion.

You came in here at level 1 and attempted to kick ass and take names of the level 2 & 3 people here.
N*ncy and her acolytes display the same arrogant ignorance.

Your problem now is that you've demonstrated that you've the technical intellect of a 7 year old.
Continued discussion of technical issues only reveals your lack of knowledge, lack of education, and arrogance in those fields.

You should stick to art where you may have some expertise. (yet to be seen, and probably challenged by GLPers who are experts in the arts.)


R.
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No, you are making claims, but refusing to provide any evidence whatsoever. Theres a difference.
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Look at the Pilots for 9/11 Truth info I just posted for DrPostman.

Re. Lear: His expertise is clear in this area.

Re. PTSD: The reporter who was on the scene first (which I linked to already) also said no evidence of a plane crash. And a person who was there would have no doubt about the massive smell of jet fuel. Even I can smell that and I don't have much of a sense of smell. :)

As to Shanksville, all early reports and flyover pics show no plane, just a bit of debris on a poorly bulldozed PLANE SHAPE ... like planes would leave a pure impression in a lawn. Then they claimed it had fully diappeared into a shaft ... but then, what, it sank perfectly, like in quicksand?

ROFLMAO.

Nope. No planes AND bad duping.

Besides, WHY use planes? Or are you afraid of thinking you could have been duped in such sham ways? I know what that's like to feel. But yah, if you look at the issues it's obvious and kind of funny, if it weren't so tragic.

Just as with the multiple fakes of Oswald's gun, all with different proportions.

Cheap fakery, mostly, hanging together because of our WILL to keep it going.

As to Icke: first of all, you are using the fallacy of guilt by association, or, more technically, ad homnem argument ... only if someone's character is the thing on the stand, is a person's character relevant. If they publish in an extremist rag, for instance, it is their work, not the publication, which is the argument's relevant issue.

Second, re. Icke himself: he may be wrong about reptilians (though if you think there's evidence for intentional energy, as in, spirits, it may be possible as a kind of possession) ... but he has done excellent work on many conspiracies. He is an uneven source, but he has value on some issues, such as when he rehashes well researched conspiracies, in his "...and the truth shall set you free" (spelled without caps in the original title of the book).
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DrPostman, do you know how I get the 'send personal Msg' on my margin?

You mean "Send Private Message"? You don't have that option?
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How does it work? Do you have to sign in to see that -- even for you? It is not showing for your i.d. either, when I am not signed in even for your margin i.d. ... So I'm just wondering about that, as well.
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Clare doesn't even see that in order for her "supporting evidence"
to work it would require those witnesses ALL lying (which
her site implies) and hundreds upon hundreds of people all
keeping perfectly silent on this conspiracy. Secrecy doesn't
work like that at all. Ben Franklin said it best: "Three
can keep a secret if two of them are dead".

It would be amusing to add up all the numbers of people who
have to keep perfect silence if Apollo was a hoax and 911
was a conspiracy.
 Quoting: DrPostman

Nope. Many doubt their own senses and if you look closely you find them changing their stories in light of what came later.

(In the JFK assassination material, one of the witnesses was COWED by the Gov't in the 70s investigation, by showing him the Zapruder film and saying, "It isn't here, is it?" Well, the film is a composite, and reworked fraud, so the witness was the more likely to be accurate.)

Also, many people are into keeping their jobs, funding, or lives.

And MANY are not even knowing abou the whole event and were compartmentalized before, or don't become experts into it until long later: happened with witnesses on JFK who had no real interest before they much later saw something reported or claimed which as not how they saw it ... and then they come forward (or stay silent until the end, because they are afraid, like the woman who left her testament with Marrs, for disclosure only upon her death, that she was with Oswald the whole time.

So your statement is fuzzy. It is a fallacy of overgeneralization.
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Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -


Doing that is no doubt part of your problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583

Nope; not doing it and doing it carefully means it's your problem; you are not familiar with the work and its key points.

A jury has to listen for hours, even months, to get the whole story -- all the facts and claims and work done, and compare all of it, in detail AND, in the end, in general, once the initial mistakes have been identified.

Each witness has items which may be relevant or not, or direct experience and not, and so on. ALL of this must be separated before you realize if they have any value.
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-there were no PLANE PARTS anywhere, except impossibly small parts at the Pentagon,

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Clare, you are simply delusional.

[link to www.rense.com]

[link to www.no] link.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

[link to www.america.gov]
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No, unlike me and LUNAR LOSS OF LOCK WHEN PHYSICALLY STOPPED.

Hmm?

I admit to not knowing that.


Clare, this is how I see it:

There are 3 levels of understanding the moon's appearance from earth:
1) The 7 year old's view: They see the same face of the moon presented and determine that the moon does not rotate on its axis.
2) The high schooler's view: They see the same thing. They can visualize in 3D and realize that if the moon orbits the earth then it must rotate on its own axis to explain what is seen from earth.
3) The science major at university student's view: The same as the high schooler's except they know enough physics to mathematically model the motion.

You came in here at level 1 and attempted to kick ass and take names of the level 2 & 3 people here.
N*ncy and her acolytes display the same arrogant ignorance.

Your problem now is that you've demonstrated that you've the technical intellect of a 7 year old.
Continued discussion of technical issues only reveals your lack of knowledge, lack of education, and arrogance in those fields.

You should stick to art where you may have some expertise. (yet to be seen, and probably challenged by GLPers who are experts in the arts.)


R.
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And there's one way of understanding you tone: 4 year old.
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-there were no PLANE PARTS anywhere, except impossibly small parts at the Pentagon,




Clare, you are simply delusional.

[link to www.rense.com]

[link to www.no] link.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

[link to www.america.gov]
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I meant carryable parts.
And none in the first photos -- and April didn't see any. You would have a big massive crumpled, broken plane, at least on major sections.

YOU are deluded about the physics yourself, dear science major.
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I think I did an amazing job of keeping the discussion straight and pointing out where people were making mistakes about others' understandings.
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Oh man! This is classic! Clare, YOU were the one making ALL the mistakes which were all pointed out to you. Are you ALWAYS this delusional?
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-there were no PLANE PARTS anywhere, except impossibly small parts at the Pentagon,




Clare, you are simply delusional.

[link to www.rense.com]

[link to www.no] link.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

[link to www.america.gov]


I meant carryable parts.
And none in the first photos -- and April didn't see any. You would have a big massive crumpled, broken plane, at least on major sections.

YOU are deluded about the physics yourself, dear science major.
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Wrong again, Clare. Where is the "massive crumpled plane" after the impact in this video?

[link to www.youtube.com]

You simply have no clue to what you're rambling about.
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Come on Clare. I learned long ago that most of what the government says is lies, the parts that are true are only there to make the bullshit around them more palatable for human consumption. If you think that you are going to expose the lies, you have more self importance than any one human being should have. The important part is to realize that we are surrounded by lies and use that little revelation to be discerning about the news around us. If you waste all your energy trying to root out the "truth" you are just chasing your own tail and spending time and energy that would be better spent elsewhere. Even if you find the truth, what good will it do anyone? Will it bring back the dead? Do you honestly think your quest for truth will change anything? You are deluded if you think so.

If you like doom and conspiracy so much, you don't need to dredge up things that happened years ago. We have real bonafide doom ongoing right now in the gulf of Mexico. I am not a doom merchant, but I do recognize the potential for great doom if this leak is not stopped soon. There are lots of lies and smoking mirrors. And it is happening NOW. If people get involved as it happens, there is a better chance of affecting the outcome.

Did you know that in spite of the GOM disaster, YOUR government (not US government that you love to malign) and the premier of BC want to go ahead with plans to lift the ban on offshore drilling off the coast of YOUR country? Do you know that if we allow this to happen, someday it could be OUR waters and coastlines that are affected? Or maybe since you live in the center of the universe, far away from the Gulf of Mexico and even farther away from the BC coast, you don't care and prefer to beat old horses and conspiracy theories.


Ah, I know this argument: why dredge up past lies?

Well, some of us here don't have THOSE straight, so they're sitting ducks for the next ones.

Second, history matters, period.

Third, ALL THE FORWARD WARS and CURRENT WARS are based on these lies.

Fourth, ALL LIES ARE IMPORTANT. ALL TRAGEDIES DESERVE THEIR DAY. And we are still going along with body scans and so on ... because of these lies. No planes, no 9/11 events except death. Now let's talk: what do we accept about current events?

Lastly, if your argument is less about not facing lies and more about living in the now": sure, it's all important. Feed your kids, fight the oil spill, etc. --- or whatever.
But it does not mean the bigger potential didn't happen and the bigger potential isn't plotting now.

You are surely deluded, and like all conspiracy nuts, you shirk your responsibility to acting in the NOW to prevent lies from causing grief in the NOW and tomorrow because it is much easier to sit on your computer and watch youtube videos, read conspiracy blogs and post drivel that won't change a thing. Hey, I agree. We aren't being told the truth about 911, though I don't believe 75% of the analysis from the tin foil hat brigade either, because it's based on bad science and pseudo science. It's enough to know that the whole affair is surrounded by lies. What those lies are is irrelevant, and like JFK, we will never know for sure. Most Americans agree that the truth about JFK has never been told, and at this point, even if we got to the truth, it changes nothing.

Meanwhile, while you chase down irrelevant details to reinforce that we are being lied to, real things are happening. Real lies are being told. Real information is being kept from us, and not just south of the border. There is plenty going on in your own country that needs our attention, but you are too busy sticking your nose in American conspiracies. No wonder our fucking country is such a mess.
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Maybe you missed this one, Clare, or maybe it hits too close to home and you would like to just ignore it.
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So, I am clearly not dumb or not worth listening to.


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No, what is clear is that once again, you are in error in that statement.
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As to the physical evidence:
There were no plane parts found anywhere, except wrong types and tiny bits.



And this is bull.

There were plane parts all over Manhattan.

The pictures are everywhere.


Nope.

There were an engine and a couple of other small plants.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


How large of pieces do you expect? Take a look at this and tell me where the "large parts" are? Be sure to watch the slow motion of the impact.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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If you don't separate the viewpoints you will be confused and CONFUSING to someone who is learning.
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Funny how six year olds have a perfect grasp of this but yet you obviously STILL don't.
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Not a bad idea . . . is there a way to use laser technology to do some type of remote mass spectrometry? Sorry, I have to run . . . see you all later.
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Not only is it not "a bad idea", it is the only manner to test the claim. Why hasn't it been done after all these years?

As to MS... what a fanciful idea. If one could produce a vacuum chamber that stretched to the contrail and --- (trails off into a boring description of GC-MS instrumentation)

You haven't a clue either, do you George?

Get a sample that doesn't consist of some toothless wonder putting an open jar of water in the bed of his F150 for a few weeks and having it analysed and misinterpreting the data. Maybe the barium in the jar of water came from the Reptilian Overlords. That's my explanation. My neighbour says it came from fairies and sprites since the jar is much closer to the ground than to a 30000' flight path.
Prove either 'theory' wrong.

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Not a bad idea . . . is there a way to use laser technology to do some type of remote mass spectrometry? Sorry, I have to run . . . see you all later.


Not only is it not "a bad idea", it is the only manner to test the claim. Why hasn't it been done after all these years?

As to MS... what a fanciful idea. If one could produce a vacuum chamber that stretched to the contrail and --- (trails off into a boring description of GC-MS instrumentation)

You haven't a clue either, do you George?

Get a sample that doesn't consist of some toothless wonder putting an open jar of water in the bed of his F150 for a few weeks and having it analysed and misinterpreting the data. Maybe the barium in the jar of water came from the Reptilian Overlords. That's my explanation. My neighbour says it came from fairies and sprites since the jar is much closer to the ground than to a 30000' flight path.
Prove either 'theory' wrong.

R.
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Why it hasn't been done is simple: It would cost money and show the chemk00ks that they were a bunch of delusional dingbats.

Thus it won't be done.

QED....

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Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]

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You've got to be kidding.

Items of interest such as:

"Those who do not know who and what the Illuminati are, I suggest that you download and watch David dIcke's Lecture on the Illuminati."

What did I say? It was only a matter of time before the Reptilians came up :)
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Just testing to see if GLP is inserting the (d) before Icke.
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I think I did an amazing job of keeping the discussion straight and pointing out where people were making mistakes about others' understandings.


Oh man! This is classic! Clare, YOU were the one making ALL the mistakes which were all pointed out to you. Are you ALWAYS this delusional?
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Nope, I made ONE mistake (other than using rotation and revolution in opposite meanings, but in my descriptions the fact I'd made a merely semantic mistake there would have been clear, if some of you had not been so set on believing I couldn't have any value if you tried). My mistake: that the Moon would not START rotating relative to the Earth if all were physically STOPPED, versus ...

You guys remember only that you all CALLED my statements gobbledygook and finally when it became clear I was talking of relative CURRENT motions, Menow said that wasn't the point originally with Nancy, but it was (and she didn't understand THOSE fully either) AND it shows my point was valid all along, except in the physical stopped motion.

As distinct from mental understanding of the superposition of CURRENT motions, which I had right.

:P
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Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]



You've got to be kidding.

Items of interest such as:

"Those who do not know who and what the Illuminati are, I suggest that you download and watch David dIcke's Lecture on the Illuminati."

What did I say? It was only a matter of time before the Reptilians came up :)
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No. Not that part.

Do you not know how to sort through good work vs. bad?

This is an ad hominem argument. That if someone gets one thing wrong (something not relevant to the testimony you are hearing) they must get all things wrong in another context?

:P

And anyway, the reference isn't related to only reptilians but to the Illuminist conspiracy.

So, scroll through the testimony. He's done a good job on that.
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If you don't separate the viewpoints you will be confused and CONFUSING to someone who is learning.



Funny how six year olds have a perfect grasp of this but yet you obviously STILL don't.
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I obviously DID (except the fact it would START rotating, relative to Earth if physically stopped) and DO now on the whole.

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