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I think Nancy's claim about the Earth being "halted in orbit" is probably the most ridiculous of her claims. For one thing, it's one of the easiest to prove wrong. It doesn't take a lot of effort and there are many sources of evidence that one can use. The most obvious is the progression of the seasons. They wouldn't happen if Earth were "halted in orbit." The second easiest would be to watch the sun's movement from south to north and back again throughout the year. Now, we know she claims the "Zetas" are tilting the Earth back and forth to make that yearly trip appear normal and also simulate the seasons...but all one has to do is look at the North Star to see that isn't true. If the Earth were being tilted about, the North Star would be all over the sky. In addition, constellations and other planets wouldn't appear where they should. The night sky is also another source of observation that proves the Earth is not "halted in orbit." As stated, constellations and planets would not be where they should. As we all know, some constellations are only visible during certain times of the year...being blocked from view by the sun as the sun lies between the Earth and the constellation. No amount of tilting the Earth will make them visible. Nor will lowering or raising Earth in its ecliptic make them visible either. And you can't move the Earth and still have other celestial objects appear where they should. I'm not sure which is more incredible...the fact that Nancy believes her claim or that her believers do.
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Actually, they don't. They just want to ignore it.
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I had forgotten just how funny this video is. She contradicts herself several times in the same video. There is a part where she talks about fire, lots of fire, and you can hear the happy anticipation in her voice. This is classic Nancy Lieder. It's hard to know where to start debunking.

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I think Nancy's claim about the Earth being "halted in orbit" is probably the most ridiculous of her claims. For one thing, it's one of the easiest to prove wrong. It doesn't take a lot of effort and there are many sources of evidence that one can use. The most obvious is the progression of the seasons. They wouldn't happen if Earth were "halted in orbit." The second easiest would be to watch the sun's movement from south to north and back again throughout the year. Now, we know she claims the "Zetas" are tilting the Earth back and forth to make that yearly trip appear normal and also simulate the seasons...but all one has to do is look at the North Star to see that isn't true. If the Earth were being tilted about, the North Star would be all over the sky. In addition, constellations and other planets wouldn't appear where they should. The night sky is also another source of observation that proves the Earth is not "halted in orbit." As stated, constellations and planets would not be where they should. As we all know, some constellations are only visible during certain times of the year...being blocked from view by the sun as the sun lies between the Earth and the constellation. No amount of tilting the Earth will make them visible. Nor will lowering or raising Earth in its ecliptic make them visible either. And you can't move the Earth and still have other celestial objects appear where they should. I'm not sure which is more incredible...the fact that Nancy believes her claim or that her believers do.


Actually, they don't. They just want to ignore it.
 Quoting: Menow 405501


This is the most IMPORTANT thing the Zetas said last night:

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)

Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??


SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


I have stated earlier that I think another "white lie" is in the offering - perhaps even another "Great" white lie. The whole zetas tilting earth and earth stopped in its orbit can be main pillars of it. All this - TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE GOING. As to whether or not such tactics are justified, we have NO CHOICE but to WAIT AND SEE what the final outcome will be. In the meantime, I remain a FENCE SITTER!!!

onfence

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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What good is a white lie that nobody believes in the first place? To anyone with a little curiosity and critical thinking skills, it is easy to prove that the earth has NOT been stopped in orbit in the "September position" for the past however many years, and if it were, no amount of moving the earth or the heavens would make things look normal. So what is the point of a lie, white or otherwise? Only a very small number of people on this forum are gullible enough to fall for the stalled earth claim. Certainly nobody in the government, astronomers (professional and amateur, including 10 year old kids) will believe it, so why the lie? Why deceive the few remaining believers with a white lie?
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I think Nancy's claim about the Earth being "halted in orbit" is probably the most ridiculous of her claims. For one thing, it's one of the easiest to prove wrong. It doesn't take a lot of effort and there are many sources of evidence that one can use. The most obvious is the progression of the seasons. They wouldn't happen if Earth were "halted in orbit." The second easiest would be to watch the sun's movement from south to north and back again throughout the year. Now, we know she claims the "Zetas" are tilting the Earth back and forth to make that yearly trip appear normal and also simulate the seasons...but all one has to do is look at the North Star to see that isn't true. If the Earth were being tilted about, the North Star would be all over the sky. In addition, constellations and other planets wouldn't appear where they should. The night sky is also another source of observation that proves the Earth is not "halted in orbit." As stated, constellations and planets would not be where they should. As we all know, some constellations are only visible during certain times of the year...being blocked from view by the sun as the sun lies between the Earth and the constellation. No amount of tilting the Earth will make them visible. Nor will lowering or raising Earth in its ecliptic make them visible either. And you can't move the Earth and still have other celestial objects appear where they should. I'm not sure which is more incredible...the fact that Nancy believes her claim or that her believers do.


Actually, they don't. They just want to ignore it.


This is the most IMPORTANT thing the Zetas said last night:

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)

Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??


SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


I have stated earlier that I think another "white lie" is in the offering - perhaps even another "Great" white lie. The whole zetas tilting earth and earth stopped in its orbit can be main pillars of it. All this - TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE GOING. As to whether or not such tactics are justified, we have NO CHOICE but to WAIT AND SEE what the final outcome will be. In the meantime, I remain a FENCE SITTER!!!

:onfence:
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You mean where "Zetas" say that they had their fingers crossed all along? How does that justify any "fence-sitting"? It just means we were right all along and they, as is clearly obvious anyway, were lying.
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Here is Nancy on video, failed prediction after failed prediction.


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What good is a white lie that nobody believes in the first place? To anyone with a little curiosity and critical thinking skills, it is easy to prove that the earth has NOT been stopped in orbit in the "September position" for the past however many years, and if it were, no amount of moving the earth or the heavens would make things look normal. So what is the point of a lie, white or otherwise? Only a very small number of people on this forum are gullible enough to fall for the stalled earth claim. Certainly nobody in the government, astronomers (professional and amateur, including 10 year old kids) will believe it, so why the lie? Why deceive the few remaining believers with a white lie?
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Agreed. The only ones being fooled are the least educated, most parnoid and vulnerable among us-- the usual cannon-fodder of religious cults.
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Nancy does a "nli" with this gem...

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Hi Nancy & Zetas..

[link to www.keelynet.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

Above is a link to 2 websites, also was a thread post on glp a few days ago. It's probably too late in the chat now to be answered, but I'm wondering if the Russian scientist claims are true, of using insect (bee, wasp, butterfly, caitlin, celluose?) body part designs to create 'natural' anti-gravity? I'm somewhat sceptical about his 'simple' anti-gravity' platform he built, but I keep an open mind. Is he for real..? or another .. fake..?! Do insects utilize some natural anti-gravity bio system? Is this what yourselves, other aliens & yogi's do to levitate.. utilize some genetic material to defy gravity? Thankyou..
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This is not ZetaTalk but the Zetas have stated that gravity is a particle flow, and outside of what happens in the Bermuda Triangle (from gravity particle outshooting from the core of the Earth) and a few other places on Earth, gravity operates evenly around the world.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

No mention of bees in there, etc.
end quote


Some truly whacked out "Nancy science" in there.




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You mean where "Zetas" say that they had their fingers crossed all along? How does that justify any "fence-sitting"? It just means we were right all along and they, as is clearly obvious anyway, were lying.


I've been writing about the next Great White Lie for years
because it's obvious to anyone with any understanding of
science that she is going to continue to fail. She HAS to
come up with another excuse or get honest about the whole
thing. She's gone too far down her own rabbit hole to do
that though.
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I think the excuse will be "zetas changed their mind" - "moved Px" or other "get out of ridicule free" concept. Otherwise Nancy will look like the kook she is and have only one real follower.
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Lol, just the first post of this thread made me laugh.
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This is the most IMPORTANT thing the Zetas said last night:

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)

Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??


SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


I have stated earlier that I think another "white lie" is in the offering - perhaps even another "Great" white lie. The whole zetas tilting earth and earth stopped in its orbit can be main pillars of it. All this - TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE GOING. As to whether or not such tactics are justified, we have NO CHOICE but to WAIT AND SEE what the final outcome will be. In the meantime, I remain a FENCE SITTER!!!

onfence
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

And you'll buy it just like you did the last one.

BTW...no, you aren't a fence sitter. You've made that obvious so you can stop pretending.
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Lol, just the first post of this thread made me laugh.
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I'm glad, laughter is the best medicine and Nancy makes us laugh every week.

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I think the excuse will be "zetas changed their mind" - "moved Px" or other "get out of ridicule free" concept. Otherwise Nancy will look like the kook she is and have only one real follower.
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If Nancy were smart, she'd claim the "Council of Worlds" decided to let the "Zetas" move "Planet X" and prevent the "pole shift." Or, perhaps, say it was all some kind of test to see if humans were ready to evolve to the next density or whatever. It would be the perfect excuse. Her followers would, naturally, believe whatever she told them and they'd probably elevate her and the "Zetas" to an even higher level of hero status. With the pending "pole shift" out of the way, "ZetaTalk" could continue much as it has. And, as long as she doesn't throw some other doomsday event in to the picture, she can keep it going indefinitely and not need to worry about coming up with excuses to explain any failures. This would help prevent her from losing any followers while still attracting new ones.

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I think the excuse will be "zetas changed their mind" - "moved Px" or other "get out of ridicule free" concept. Otherwise Nancy will look like the kook she is and have only one real follower.

If Nancy were smart, she'd claim the "Council of Worlds" decided to let the "Zetas" move "Planet X" and prevent the "pole shift." This would allow her to continue believing she was in contact with aliens and also save face with her followers.
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I'm expecting a "Time is not as Humans view it" excuse.
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So, let's see...a monorail train collided with another at Disney World early this morning. Who wants to bet that Nancy claims it was caused by some "electromagnetic flux?"

BTW, I've seen "Planet X" on numerous occasions as I drove down Highway 60 whenever I went into Brandon when we lived in Tampa.



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Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??


SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


I have stated earlier that I think another "white lie" is in the offering - perhaps even another "Great" white lie. The whole zetas tilting earth and earth stopped in its orbit can be main pillars of it. All this - TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE GOING. As to whether or not such tactics are justified, we have NO CHOICE but to WAIT AND SEE what the final outcome will be. In the meantime, I remain a FENCE SITTER!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


No, we don't have to wait to see: you can see RIGHT NOW that the Earth isn't halted in its orbit. YOU just don't have the cajones to go out to an astronomy club, learn about the heavens, and see for yourself.

And, if the Zetas lie so casually about such things: what is the point of any dialogue with them OR Nancy? The Zetas, obviously, could be lying or wrong about EVERYTHING they say. Without their 100 percent accuracy, their claims and predictions and dialogue have exactly as much relevance as the guy holding 'The End of the World is Nigh" sign.

Is it the Zeta attempt to separate out the galactically gullible from others, perhaps? Because if this all is another LIE, that would be all that's being accomplished...
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I think Nancy's claim about the Earth being "halted in orbit" is probably the most ridiculous of her claims. For one thing, it's one of the easiest to prove wrong. It doesn't take a lot of effort and there are many sources of evidence that one can use. The most obvious is the progression of the seasons. They wouldn't happen if Earth were "halted in orbit." The second easiest would be to watch the sun's movement from south to north and back again throughout the year. Now, we know she claims the "Zetas" are tilting the Earth back and forth to make that yearly trip appear normal and also simulate the seasons...but all one has to do is look at the North Star to see that isn't true. If the Earth were being tilted about, the North Star would be all over the sky. In addition, constellations and other planets wouldn't appear where they should. The night sky is also another source of observation that proves the Earth is not "halted in orbit." As stated, constellations and planets would not be where they should. As we all know, some constellations are only visible during certain times of the year...being blocked from view by the sun as the sun lies between the Earth and the constellation. No amount of tilting the Earth will make them visible. Nor will lowering or raising Earth in its ecliptic make them visible either. And you can't move the Earth and still have other celestial objects appear where they should. I'm not sure which is more incredible...the fact that Nancy believes her claim or that her believers do.


Actually, they don't. They just want to ignore it.


This is the most IMPORTANT thing the Zetas said last night:

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)

Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003.
could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??


SOZT
This is within the realm of possibility.
EOZT


I have stated earlier that I think another "white lie" is in the offering - perhaps even another "Great" white lie. The whole zetas tilting earth and earth stopped in its orbit can be main pillars of it. All this - TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE GOING. As to whether or not such tactics are justified, we have NO CHOICE but to WAIT AND SEE what the final outcome will be. In the meantime, I remain a FENCE SITTER!!!

:onfence:
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


So the "zetas" are nothing but liars?
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So the "zetas" are nothing but liars?
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Apparently, that's what it's coming down to...so why should anyone believe anything else they've ever said? How do they know when the "Zetas" are telling the truth and when they aren't?
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Another white lie in the offing. What a riot! What did the last white lie accomplish besides persuading a handful of people too stupid to use a bit of common sense and logic to hang on to the fear and expectation after the 2003 no show of planet x? Oh, right. the white lie got Nancy off the hook for a failed doom date and bought her a bit more time. She knows planet x is not here, nor is it coming, and she knows her deadline date is fast approaching. Given the almost non existent credibility she has with her almost 0% accuracy track record, she will have to come up with a real whopper to convince even the most devout believer. Freestore and Burkettgirl will probably believe whatever she comes up with.
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So the "zetas" are nothing but liars?


Apparently, that's what it's coming down to...so why should anyone believe anything else they've ever said? How do they know when the "Zetas" are telling the truth and when they aren't?
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gut feel
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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gut feel
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You go ahead and stick with your gut feeling. It's done nothing to make "Planet X" real.
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gut feel
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Must be constipation.
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So if the Zetas really want the truth about Planet X to come out, and for people to be prepared... why do they keep discrediting themselves? Assuming PX is real, a series of failed prophecies will result in anyone else trying to get the word out being tarnished by association - "oh, I've heard about Nibiru, wasn't that the rogue planet from the failed doomsday cult? What BS that turned out to be."

So when Planet X really does come (!) people will be unprepared and die en masse, because of the Zetas' "white lies." Said it before and I'll say it again - these are not benevolent aliens!
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Another white lie in the offing. What a riot! What did the last white lie accomplish besides persuading a handful of people too stupid to use a bit of common sense and logic to hang on to the fear and expectation after the 2003 no show of planet x? Oh, right. the white lie got Nancy off the hook for a failed doom date and bought her a bit more time. She knows planet x is not here, nor is it coming, and she knows her deadline date is fast approaching. Given the almost non existent credibility she has with her almost 0% accuracy track record, she will have to come up with a real whopper to convince even the most devout believer. Freestore and Burkettgirl will probably believe whatever she comes up with.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

That's why I say if she was smart, she would say the "Council of Worlds" decided to let the "Zetas" interfere and move "Planet X" so the "pole shift" wouldn't happen. This would get her off the hook for another doomsday failure. She can then continue "ZetaTalk" much as she has and not have to worry about losing followers when another date comes and goes with no crushing disasters. She might even be able to attract a few new followers and keep them for a while...as long as she doesn't make any doomsday claims involving celestial objects that can easily be proven to exist or not.
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So if the Zetas really want the truth about Planet X to come out, and for people to be prepared... why do they keep discrediting themselves? Assuming PX is real, a series of failed prophecies will result in anyone else trying to get the word out being tarnished by association - "oh, I've heard about Nibiru, wasn't that the rogue planet from the failed doomsday cult? What BS that turned out to be."

So when Planet X really does come (!) people will be unprepared and die en masse, because of the Zetas' "white lies." Said it before and I'll say it again - these are not benevolent aliens!
 Quoting: Disinfo agent 698702

We've brought that point up before as well. All the "Zetas" are doing now is aiding the government in any cover up. They really aren't doing anyone any favors by withholding information...a fact they even confirmed with the following statement made in 2003:

"As explained on Gentile last evening, but repeated here as many will not be able to hear this streaming audio, we have given the dates out because the US and Indonesian governments can no longer succeed with their plans. We had held the date close, to put these governments in the same position the common man they planned to murder are in, so that rotation stoppage would happen suddenly and prevent a smooth blockading of the city dwellers. As Nancy has been able to be interviewed in the US, the message of these plans replayed around the world, cooperation by the military or locale police in such blockades are unlikely to happen. Given such orders, they would object, refuse, allow escape, as they know the true agenda. Thus, the number of people injured by withholding the date outnumbered the number that would be murdered, the balance scale tipped."
ZetaTalk: Dates, Why Now?

Of course, one has to wonder why they then needed to come up with a "white lie" to explain why nothing happened. Some people, such as ZetaMax and Free Store, claim they understand the "white lie" and see why it was necessary. However, the statement above contradicts their reason for the "white lie" in the first place...that being the government was evil and intended to do bad things to people during the "pole shift." As you can see, the above statement says the government would fail with those plans. So, really, the "white lie" was nothing more than an excuse to explain a failed "pole shift."
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So if the Zetas really want the truth about Planet X to come out, and for people to be prepared... why do they keep discrediting themselves? Assuming PX is real, a series of failed prophecies will result in anyone else trying to get the word out being tarnished by association - "oh, I've heard about Nibiru, wasn't that the rogue planet from the failed doomsday cult? What BS that turned out to be."

So when Planet X really does come (!) people will be unprepared and die en masse, because of the Zetas' "white lies." Said it before and I'll say it again - these are not benevolent aliens!

We've brought that point up before as well. All the "Zetas" are doing now is aiding the government in any cover up. They really aren't doing anyone any favors by withholding information...a fact they even confirmed with the following statement made in 2003:

"As explained on Gentile last evening, but repeated here as many will not be able to hear this streaming audio, we have given the dates out because the US and Indonesian governments can no longer succeed with their plans. We had held the date close, to put these governments in the same position the common man they planned to murder are in, so that rotation stoppage would happen suddenly and prevent a smooth blockading of the city dwellers. As Nancy has been able to be interviewed in the US, the message of these plans replayed around the world, cooperation by the military or locale police in such blockades are unlikely to happen. Given such orders, they would object, refuse, allow escape, as they know the true agenda. Thus, the number of people injured by withholding the date outnumbered the number that would be murdered, the balance scale tipped."
ZetaTalk: Dates, Why Now?

Of course, one has to wonder why they then needed to come up with a "white lie" to explain why nothing happened. Some people, such as ZetaMax and Free Store, claim they understand the "white lie" and see why it was necessary. However, the statement above contradicts their reason for the "white lie" in the first place...that being the government was evil and intended to do bad things to people during the "pole shift." As you can see, the above statement says the government would fail with those plans. So, really, the "white lie" was nothing more than an excuse to explain a failed "pole shift."
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Has Nancy ever explained why the world's governments would want to slaughter all of their own citizens right before a pole shift, anyway? If most of the population's going to die anyway it seems kind of pointless... the nation with the most surviving able bodied workers would surely be in a better position to emerge as a world power after a pole shift.
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Has Nancy ever explained why the world's governments would want to slaughter all of their own citizens right before a pole shift, anyway? If most of the population's going to die anyway it seems kind of pointless... the nation with the most surviving able bodied workers would surely be in a better position to emerge as a world power after a pole shift.
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You have a very valid point there. She says the government wants to enslave any survivors...but there won't be that many people left to enslave. And just how is the government going to find these survivors? Resources will be limited. Infrastructure will be non-existent. Besides, she also claims the government and the "elite" are all going to jump ship and fly off to the Moon or Mars. So, where are they going to get these people to enslave? And life on either the Moon or Mars won't be much better. The Moon has no atmosphere and the one on Mars is much to thin to support life.

When you think things through a little, Nancy's claims become very far fetched at best. But, as stated, logic isn't something her believers are known for. And you certainly don't question her about things she can't explain...you'll find yourself kicked out of Club PX with Nancy wishing you drown in the "pole shift."
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So let me get this straight.

Px will kill 90% of the population, but the NWO is going to expend the energy to kill, or "pre-slaughter" lots of people, just before Px is gonna kill them anyway.

Can any bunker present a rationale for such an action?

Didnt think so.
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So let me get this straight.

Px will kill 90% of the population, but the NWO is going to expend the energy to kill, or "pre-slaughter" lots of people, just before Px is gonna kill them anyway.

Can any bunker present a rationale for such an action?

Didnt think so.
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Silly, isn't it? But this is the kind of stuff that Nancy continues to support, and the scary part is that there are a handful of people that believe it.
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So let me get this straight.

Px will kill 90% of the population, but the NWO is going to expend the energy to kill, or "pre-slaughter" lots of people, just before Px is gonna kill them anyway.

Can any bunker present a rationale for such an action?

Didnt think so.
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