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So let me get this straight.

Px will kill 90% of the population, but the NWO is going to expend the energy to kill, or "pre-slaughter" lots of people, just before Px is gonna kill them anyway.

Can any bunker present a rationale for such an action?

Didnt think so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718986

It is interesting, isn't it? I would imagine it's probably because Nancy et al need to provide some justification for all the conspiracies and coverups around Planet X, and the NWO conspiracy theory is out there with lots of its own followers. It's an attempt to simultaneously make her own mythology internally consistent without going to all the trouble of making up her own conspiracy, and to attract new followers - people who already believe in the NWO are probably more likely to be attracted to a Planet X conspiracy if it partly confirms what they already believe.

Of course, it makes the whole thing completely nonsensical, but that's never been much of an obstacle for Nancy.
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So, let's see...a monorail train collided with another at Disney World early this morning. Who wants to bet that Nancy claims it was caused by some "electromagnetic flux?"

BTW, I've seen "Planet X" on numerous occasions as I drove down Highway 60 whenever I went into Brandon when we lived in Tampa.



It's an adult bookstore.
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My power went off last night, probably planet x related. It couldn't be because a car took down a power pole.
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Which makes the list of Wonderwomans recent blunders look like:
Thread: ZETAMAX Claims 9-11 WTC Connection: I Say "PROVE IT!"
(the Zeatamx 9/11 bullshit from 2007)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 13

[link to www.www.godlikeproductions.com]

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 17 (Page 27)
(N. lists her failed predictions (p5), Hybrids,)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 24 (Page 22)
(moon does not rotate)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat January 31 (Page 23)
(vivid, welcomed memories to the kite)
[link to 64.233.179.104]
(Googles copy of the kite site on 25.may 2009)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 7 (Page 25)
(The Wobble claim, Zetamax writing "ZT")
[link to apod.nasa.gov]
The origin of the picture:
[link to www.pinholephotography.org]
(that kills the wobble claim once and for all, because it covers the daytime of half a year…)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 14 (Page 17)
(Wobble claim, Freestore proves N. wrong)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 21 (Page 21)
(The Fence Shitter, N. insulting disabled, India borders Russia)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 28 (Page 9)
(aircraft "stalling" engines, Nancy sueing the pilots, Nancy claiming engine stall, GPS stationary, communication errors instead of 100 % accuracy)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 7 (Page 7)
(Zetas not farting, N. changes GPS Post)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 14 (Page 17)
(Wobble: pinhole photography, N. is dogkiller, financial issues)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 21 (Page 7)
(Nancy commenting Cologne Building collapse question - failure!, the equinox excuse, N. playing planet marble)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 21 (Page 14)
(cologne building collapse expl. Failure)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat March 28 (Page 5)
(Nancy herself proves the wobble claim wrong, Venus transit blunder, light bending, repulsion force, freestore prove wrong, Zetamax reveals to be Nancy, Zetamax 911 story)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 4 (Page 2)
(Tail of PX IS visible, Earth farts, atmosphere stripped away)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 11 (Page 4)
(astronomers conspiracy, "Cult" being harassed, "Star Trails facilitiy", repulsion force self debunk of Nancy, Nancy "cleaning" the thread, new wobble whopper, Nancy editing ZetaTalk )
Another anti-wobble proof:
[link to apod.nasa.gov]
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 18 (Page 38)
("not on a 6 "(should be end 2008), NancyMax writes to "her fans", Nancymax admits Zetatalk edited, the Chiffre No 1 (page38), Max slipping into Nancy again "how can i be wrong?")
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat April 25 (Page 4)
(Max admits no poleshift in 2003 (!))
[link to www.badastronomy.com]
just to remeber - facts about the soho camera
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 2 (Page 5)
Nancy slips identity to max (p5,p8!), final exposure of "Nax",
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 9 (Page 3)
(astronomers ALL silenced (yawn), Elle=Nancy ID Repost (p21), Max infringes Zetas copyright ;-), Nancy posts as zetamax repost (p25), "expertise is irrelevant" (p27), another elle= Nancy ID repost (p29)
Thread: ZetaTalk Video Clips – NEW on May 16 – Pandemics, Second Sun, and the Coverup (Page 2)
(Video Nonsense from the queen of Bullshit)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 16 (Page 2)
(No PX pictures (p9),Claude Haigener Suicide prediction failure (p11), Nancy stole sun Picture (p12), nancy mixes up with Zeta (p12), Nancy admitting about socks (p15)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 23 (Page 2)
(elle = Nancy reposts, elle is a neighbour (p17), banned elle posted to unban elle (repost), mixing servers during sockpuppeting (p19), Max admist no astronomical orediction came true (p27), the bith of zites follower (679804)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 30 (Page 4)
(funny cropcircles (p5), zeta answers a "to Nancy" post(p11), no more 100 % accuracy claimed,
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
(Air Franc 447, Mr. Shackleford on stage (max, be careful),
"Again, you are a sick person for using this unfortunate event to promote your idiotic planet eX crap","delusional almost to the point of being a danger to society"
"The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist. "
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 6 (Page 6)
"SOZT
The only contradiction is in your mind. Man’s “Conservation of Energy” rule is just another human rule that is nonsensical. Nature is not under man’s rules...."", proud of loosing (p17)"
"debunkers" decide to ignore nancys thread for one month ending 16th July, List of Sun pictures without PX (p22)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 13
"More proof the debunkers live in fear and use these kinds of words "death" to relay their message." Chuckle, "Magnetic Trimesters",
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
(Official Debunker thread) Repost of Nancys Dec-RA gaffe (p12),TCs wonderful Nancy desription (p16), "On July 22, PX will be revealed to all . . ." (p17), Zetamax: "And where is the evidence for this? Link please"
Zetamax: "I'll move it up a day - if there is no evidence of PX by December 30, 2011 - I'll concede and a make a dinner reservation at a Ruth's Chris in South Carolina." (p28), Maxy claims to be "in a mission" (p42)
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 20 (Page 6)
SOZT..get a planetarium program and study….EOZT (pg4), "The wheather is quite normal" (!) (p8,9)
Thread: ZetaTalk on DC Metro Crash
(The Metro Crash),"This is just another example of the "Zeta circus clowns" cashing in on other peoples misery…", Nancys prediction of cause wrong again
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat June 27 (Page 3)
"can the astronauts on the ISS see planet x? SOZT Yes EOZT", "PX rises before sun rises"
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4
more crop circles(p1), "Planet X is present in almost every crop circle".(p2), again: Earth is stalled in orbit (p4), "This is within the realm of possibility.",the 2012 excuse started(p5),

Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
237 days gone, 909 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
Nancy complied first on July4th, 2009.
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)

The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
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So let me get this straight.

Px will kill 90% of the population, but the NWO is going to expend the energy to kill, or "pre-slaughter" lots of people, just before Px is gonna kill them anyway.

Can any bunker present a rationale for such an action?

Didnt think so.

It is interesting, isn't it? I would imagine it's probably because Nancy et al need to provide some justification for all the conspiracies and coverups around Planet X, and the NWO conspiracy theory is out there with lots of its own followers. It's an attempt to simultaneously make her own mythology internally consistent without going to all the trouble of making up her own conspiracy, and to attract new followers - people who already believe in the NWO are probably more likely to be attracted to a Planet X conspiracy if it partly confirms what they already believe.

Of course, it makes the whole thing completely nonsensical, but that's never been much of an obstacle for Nancy.
 Quoting: Disinfo agent 587424


Well OK then. I vote that the ebil gubbmint kill everyone TWICE before Px gets here. That way, after Px, the NWO will have the death of 90% in triplicate, as required by ebil gubbmint regulations. This will have the added benefit of wasting lots of resources so that the 10% of survivor slaves will have to work twice as hard for TPTB, and be twice as miserable.
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The riddle is still unsolved. Tomorrow the next hint will show up.

Nancy ace will tell rueful of being historic as moon renders or receiver traces almighty popcorn trips monday night to Zetamax Mercury swing repulsions
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And WHOEVER solves this, he may NOT publish the solution, but just tell he got it, and may supply a proof by coding something the same way.
74 days ZT not solved
1 debunker solvers accepted (Oldsmobile)
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Hints will be provided every 25 days
Hint No. 1: The riddle CAN be solved, and you WILL know if your solution is right. (everybody doing it can be proud)
Hint No. 2: Where did the riddle appear first? (everybody doing it should be proud)
(from now on, every answer cannot be assumed to be sourcing from "Zetas")
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So if the Zetas really want the truth about Planet X to come out, and for people to be prepared... why do they keep discrediting themselves? Assuming PX is real, a series of failed prophecies will result in anyone else trying to get the word out being tarnished by association - "oh, I've heard about Nibiru, wasn't that the rogue planet from the failed doomsday cult? What BS that turned out to be."

So when Planet X really does come (!) people will be unprepared and die en masse, because of the Zetas' "white lies." Said it before and I'll say it again - these are not benevolent aliens!
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Maybe they are going to cull the moronically stupid to try to elevate the rest of us, all the zeta followers over the years are beamed up to become food for the t-rex type zetas.

Sounds good to me.

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So, let's see...a monorail train collided with another at Disney World early this morning. Who wants to bet that Nancy claims it was caused by some "electromagnetic flux?"

BTW, I've seen "Planet X" on numerous occasions as I drove down Highway 60 whenever I went into Brandon when we lived in Tampa.



It's an adult bookstore.

My power went off last night, probably planet x related. It couldn't be because a car took down a power pole.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


The car was hit with a magnetic anomaly caused by Px.

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So let me get this straight.

Px will kill 90% of the population, but the NWO is going to expend the energy to kill, or "pre-slaughter" lots of people, just before Px is gonna kill them anyway.

Can any bunker present a rationale for such an action?

Didnt think so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718986


Not quite, it will be 90% of all life on the planet. The destruction is storm/tidal wave/earthquake etc. ergo not just the population, plant life as well as animal, the 10% of plant life is not enough to renew the atmosphere, hence nothing will be left.

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So let me get this straight.

Px will kill 90% of the population, but the NWO is going to expend the energy to kill, or "pre-slaughter" lots of people, just before Px is gonna kill them anyway.

Can any bunker present a rationale for such an action?

Didnt think so.


Not quite, it will be 90% of all life on the planet. The destruction is storm/tidal wave/earthquake etc. ergo not just the population, plant life as well as animal, the 10% of plant life is not enough to renew the atmosphere, hence nothing will be left.

fictionx
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_absurd
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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So, let's see...a monorail train collided with another at Disney World early this morning. Who wants to bet that Nancy claims it was caused by some "electromagnetic flux?"

BTW, I've seen "Planet X" on numerous occasions as I drove down Highway 60 whenever I went into Brandon when we lived in Tampa.



It's an adult bookstore.

My power went off last night, probably planet x related. It couldn't be because a car took down a power pole.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Actually it could be. Zetas have said that folks are much more highly distracted as a result of multiple stress factors intensified by the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system.

I for one, do not totally DISMISS the idea.

... though I don't "believe" it either.

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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zitamax wtf mate, just how delusional are ya son. Get some fucken meds and lay the fuck off the drugs.
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My power went off last night, probably planet x related. It couldn't be because a car took down a power pole.

Actually it could be. Zetas have said that folks are much more highly distracted as a result of multiple stress factors intensified by the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system.
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Are you kidding? Or just a fucking troll?
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My power went off last night, probably planet x related. It couldn't be because a car took down a power pole.

Actually it could be. Zetas have said that folks are much more highly distracted as a result of multiple stress factors intensified by the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system.


Are you kidding? Or just a fucking troll?
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The latter, obviously.




Nancy ace will tell rueful of being historic as moon renders or receiver traces almighty popcorn trips monday night to Zetamax Mercury swing repulsions
#-------------------------------
And WHOEVER solves this, he may NOT publish the solution, but just tell he got it, and may supply a proof by coding something the same way.
74 days ZT not solved
1 debunker solvers accepted (Oldsmobile)
#-------------------------------
Hints will be provided every 25 days
Hint No. 1: The riddle CAN be solved, and you WILL know if your solution is right. (everybody doing it can be proud)
Hint No. 2: Where did the riddle appear first? (everybody doing it should be proud)
(from now on, every answer cannot be assumed to be sourcing from "Zetas")
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My power went off last night, probably planet x related. It couldn't be because a car took down a power pole.

Actually it could be. Zetas have said that folks are much more highly distracted as a result of multiple stress factors intensified by the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system.


Are you kidding? Or just a fucking troll?
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Like shooting fish in a barrel, I just knew Max would bite and make an ass of himself. Kids party in the summer, drink too much and crash into power poles, long before Nancy invented planet X. Who can believe Max is on the fence?
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What good is a white lie that nobody believes in the first place? To anyone with a little curiosity and critical thinking skills, it is easy to prove that the earth has NOT been stopped in orbit in the "September position" for the past however many years, and if it were, no amount of moving the earth or the heavens would make things look normal. So what is the point of a lie, white or otherwise? Only a very small number of people on this forum are gullible enough to fall for the stalled earth claim. Certainly nobody in the government, astronomers (professional and amateur, including 10 year old kids) will believe it, so why the lie? Why deceive the few remaining believers with a white lie?
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i never believed in "stalled Earth", nor do i now.

I have stated earlier that I think another "white lie" is in the offering - perhaps even another "Great" white lie. The whole zetas tilting earth and earth stopped in its orbit can be main pillars of it.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


i think and have thought much the same, as i watched things unfold these years after 2003 White Lie and closely tracing new ZT.

i stated it numerous times here on GLP in ZetaTalk Live Chat [i wouldnt take time to find it and give link], i believe that present ZT message is like a movie script relayed in advance to actual events. much like crying "wolf, wolf!", ahead of actual wolf arrival. or warning about eq or volcano eruption ahead of the time.

[i remember the story about chinese villager who saw tsunami approaching. to warn his fellow villagers who refused to listen to him as just another alarmist, he burn the grain feald]

ZT cries "poleshift!' ahead of the time to keep people warned. what they are talking NOW is, imo, ahead of the time, of the real events too.
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That's the best response you can muster to that? Care to explain why it's absurd?

I didn't think so.

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My power went off last night, probably planet x related. It couldn't be because a car took down a power pole.
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Didn't you know? The "tail" of "Planet X" created an "electromagnetic flux" that caused the computer controlling many of the engine functions of that particular car to malfunction and the driver then lost control and hit the power pole. It's really quite obvious. Get with the program! ;p
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i never believed in "stalled Earth", nor do i now.
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Then you're probably the only follower of ZT to ever say that. Just don't let Nancy know. You may find yourself being called a "debunker."

[i remember the story about chinese villager who saw tsunami approaching. to warn his fellow villagers who refused to listen to him as just another alarmist, he burn the grain feald]
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The problem is: you can't see a tsunami coming. While out in the ocean, they're virtually non-existent...they may only appear as a wave a few feet high. They don't start to emerge until the sea floor starts climbing towards the shore. And they move very quickly so by the time he saw the wave, it would already be upon them so there would have been little he could have done.
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and so it begins. The bunkers start to deny that they ever really believed zetatalk. They just had their own interpretation of it.
That with nancy hinting at another white lie.... well its all over now.
VICTORY TO THE DEBUNKERS... this day would always come.
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And notice the stalwart bunkers come here to make their confessions? We welcome them to the fold, may they find common sense and reality.

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[i remember the story about chinese villager who saw tsunami approaching. to warn his fellow villagers who refused to listen to him as just another alarmist, he burn the grain feald]

The problem is: you can't see a tsunami coming. While out in the ocean, they're virtually non-existent...they may only appear as a wave a few feet high. They don't start to emerge until the sea floor starts climbing towards the shore. And they move very quickly so by the time he saw the wave, it would already be upon them so there would have been little he could have done.
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maybe it was a hurricane in that story i've heard sometime ago?
probably yes, it was just to illustrate the situation, not intending literal or scientific accuracy
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Andrew, you asked "the zetas" about V.I.Lenin. I wonder how you feel about the answer given by Nancy. As far as I can tell she didn't answer your question at all. Did she? What do you think?

Vladimir Lenin – what was his spiritual intent? So much propaganda and lies about this man. Where his ideals truly as stated by him?

SOZT
We have stated that the fault with communism was not the concept but the spiritual orientation of those practicing it. Greed, selfish interest, and lack of care for others ruined it for all. Those who speak of communism as an evil are primarily interested in capitalism
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
as a replacement, so that greed, self interest, and lack of care for others can be more extreme.
EOZT
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Nancy Lieder is a proven bsflag merchant.

Time after time.
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and so it begins. The bunkers start to deny that they ever really believed zetatalk. They just had their own interpretation of it.
That with nancy hinting at another white lie.... well its all over now.
VICTORY TO THE DEBUNKERS... this day would always come.
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negative.
i did and do believe it, except for [presently] Earth halt, ... and some other things. i am not sure about actual wobble, though there are serious arguments in favour of it.

i saw moon rising at different locations three days in a row: SE then more to the E, then SE again, location of the Sun, etc.
i notice "wobblw weather" and commentaries of our ukrainian scientists about this, also high tides, umm, well im not sure about constellations - never checked it myself.

also i am [i probably didnt say it anywhere here] not sure about Planet X visibility SO FAR YET. i never saw it myself, though i went out and tried in 2003. second sun video was impressive, but still, if it is so dramatic, then one probably wouldnt have to be lucky to see it, on rare occasions.

but but but...

from the ZetaTalk itself it is pretty clear [and i DID mention it here time and again], that these things - Planet X visibility, actual Earth wobble, orbit abberations, 3 days of Darkness and Rotation slowing will all start to manifest in the last months before the Pole Shift.

i dont care who says what, even ZetaTalk, about what is NOW observed. i've heard the [ZetaTalk] warnings and will look myself and decide what is happening or not, and what to do about it.

i hope this will not be torn out of context, as it usually is.
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maybe it was a hurricane in that story i've heard sometime ago?
probably yes, it was just to illustrate the situation, not intending literal or scientific accuracy
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No, what you said could very well be true...the story may have involved a tsunami. But it may only been a story that was meant to have a lesson in it. Who knows.
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It is good to know that Andrew doesn't buy the stalled earth scenario, but what I fail to understand is how one can trust anything Nancy says if she lies about something so obvious and easy to disprove. If someone lies to you and you catch them in a lie, why would you ever believe them again, especially when they cover their lie with more lies? And now that Nancy says she doesn't rule out that the Zetas are setting her up for another white lie, why should anyone at all give any credibility to anything they say?

I don't buy the cry wolf scenario as Andrew puts forth. In fact, the story goes that the little boy gave the false alarm so many times that nobody believed him when the wolf did show up. Nancy and other doom merchants cry wolf so much, that we are becoming inured to all such claims and warnings. If a real threat were to arise, people would be inclined to ignore the warnings because the warnings up until now have been bogus.
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i did and do believe it, except for [presently] Earth halt, ... and some other things. i am not sure about actual wobble, though there are serious arguments in favour of it.
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I disagree...there are no serious arguments in favor of it. You can find several photos and videos on the Internet that prove there is no wobble. Just do a search for "star trails."

i saw moon rising at different locations three days in a row: SE then more to the E, then SE again, location of the Sun, etc.
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And that is perfectly normal. For some odd reason, some people (like Free Store), believe that the moon follows the sun's path through the sky. Well, it does...however, it does so much faster. It takes a year for the sun go complete its journey through the sky...but it only takes the moon less than a month to complete the same journey.

i notice "wobblw weather" and commentaries of our ukrainian scientists about this, also high tides, umm, well im not sure about constellations - never checked it myself.
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You may be seeing extreme weather...but none of it is caused by some "wobble."
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I don't buy the cry wolf scenario as Andrew puts forth. In fact, the story goes that the little boy gave the false alarm so many times that nobody believed him when the wolf did show up. Nancy and other doom merchants cry wolf so much, that we are becoming inured to all such claims and warnings. If a real threat were to arise, people would be inclined to ignore the warnings because the warnings up until now have been bogus.
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hm. would you not believe it if Planet X one day shows up in the sky, visible to all?

if it happens noone could ignore the warnings anymore.
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I don't buy the cry wolf scenario as Andrew puts forth. In fact, the story goes that the little boy gave the false alarm so many times that nobody believed him when the wolf did show up. Nancy and other doom merchants cry wolf so much, that we are becoming inured to all such claims and warnings. If a real threat were to arise, people would be inclined to ignore the warnings because the warnings up until now have been bogus.
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But Nancy would have you believe that it's okay to do that because as long as you were watching the signs, you would know whether it was going to happen or not. The problem with that is - doesn't she claim the government uses "ZetaTalk" to know when "Planet X" is coming? If so, then they would know that all they need to do is watch for the signs. Of course, another big problem - how are people supposed to watch for the signs when the "Zetas" are going out of their way to cover up those signs?
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I don't buy the cry wolf scenario as Andrew puts forth. In fact, the story goes that the little boy gave the false alarm so many times that nobody believed him when the wolf did show up. Nancy and other doom merchants cry wolf so much, that we are becoming inured to all such claims and warnings. If a real threat were to arise, people would be inclined to ignore the warnings because the warnings up until now have been bogus.


hm. would you not believe it if Planet X one day shows up in the sky, visible to all?

if it happens noone could ignore the warnings anymore.
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Of course I would believe it if it was visible in the sky. But since the person predicted it has a proven track record of lying and being wrong about everything she has ever predicted, I am confident that this is not going to happen. I am however dedicated to searching for truth, and have been known to change my opinions radically if evidence merits it. This is why I ask Nancy for clarification, and get myself banned, it's why I ask the bunkers for evidence, which they never provide. Given their responses, I have no reason to assume that planet x will appear any time soon.
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