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{>:-)

OH you mean the (>:-), talk tomorrow.
 Quoting: George B

Yup!

And I used a { for the crest because they had a kind of frill, though not so much as the styracosaurus, which had horns on its neck-protector head-plate. And they had no two horns on their brow, only a nose horn.

Hm. Doing a Styrakky. How? Maybe ...

#{:-)
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You keep sending yourself these little notes, clunker, sooner or later two of your neurons may fire in the right order and you will have a dim undertsanding of reality.
 Quoting: The Commentator

Well, then you haven't handled Lear's point.

If you refuse to cross examine his testimony, then you rest on this point and it stands.

:)
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No, sorry Stoopid, your appeal to authority of a course doesn't work in this case.

I can be well informed enough of a phenomenon in plain descriptive language by an expert to understand what HE claims in the basic form.

I do not have to know ALL about aerodynamics to understand that air pressure affects fan rotation and lift. Exactly how isn't the point. The point is the relevance to the question of these planes doing these things.

I backed the claim up. HE knows aerodynamics in more depth. Argue with HIS technical knowledge.

I understand the claim overall. You want to know more, argue the case. I want to see it. Go on? Or does your hot air only go one way? LOL!

As to shame, I know more of it than you do, clearly, for I know I have struggled to face many truths here, and sort through which parts have validity -- making mistakes along the way -- but have sorted through a lot more than you and felt ashamed I didn't suspect these things. I have also followed the twists and turns of the developing arguments, which means I have had to deeply change my mind on many issues, and sometimes change it back again corrected on some part.
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wrong canadian breaddead moron

(what is it about canadia anyways?? we had luser and his `canadian word' and clunk and her canadian braindeath....



hummmm..

or is it the one canadian???
lost the foulmouth abuse and is now being paid to act the dumb bimbo

we know he was getting paid by nancy - is this his new assignment???

LOL



(luser all dressed up in his best frilly underwear- what a sight THAT would be...)
on second thoughts NAH I do NOT want THAT image in my head.....
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You keep sending yourself these little notes, clunker, sooner or later two of your neurons may fire in the right order and you will have a dim undertsanding of reality.

Well, then you haven't handled Lear's point.

If you refuse to cross examine his testimony, then you rest on this point and it stands.

:)
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its almost like a cross of maxipad and his `I am a lawyer guy and luser and his canadian crossdressing....


































































now I am scaring myself- kurt speaking in a canadian accent wearing frilly knickers....

uggghhh......
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I was being clear. I didn't want "Who the heck is Weishaupt?"

Anyway, did you know he was a J-ssuit?



Really, you're the first person in ten years to ever bring up anything like that on this forum.

While you're at it, maybe you could help educate us about this Kenneth Arnold guy I keep hearing about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583

Well, he certainly wasn't the last to say something funny was in the sky. Nazi craft? Ours? Alien?

The 20s and 30s were a great time for experimentation on elecromagnetic-gravitic effects. Townsend Brown wrote about that, too. So ... what do YOU think of that?

So, on the other topic: if I was the first person just to bring up the J--u-sits and their continual meddling in a while here (their meddling, like others', being also like British Imperialism in different forms over the years), does that mean you know that about Weishaupt specifically, yourself?

He's not the only double- or triple-linked person in history, ha ha ha. And of course, a person could do something unapproved of by one of their individual affiliates or group-affiliates, but the J's have been so constantly found in major events, that one must wonder at each case and consider possilbe larger group involvement in the plots.

We also know they, like others in the V became involved over history in HORRIBLE things that are quite commonly written about -- q.v. the Inquisition for starters, which was both religious and fascist oligarchic torture operations. Most people don't connect the Inquisition to anything other than religion, but the political ramifications were clear in the heyday of open Inquisitorial behaviour.
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You keep sending yourself these little notes, clunker, sooner or later two of your neurons may fire in the right order and you will have a dim undertsanding of reality.

Well, then you haven't handled Lear's point.

If you refuse to cross examine his testimony, then you rest on this point and it stands.

:)



its almost like a cross of maxipad and his `I am a lawyer guy and luser and his canadian crossdressing....

[snip of massive paragraph returns]

now I am scaring myself- kurt speaking in a canadian accent wearing frilly knickers....

uggghhh......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

What happened to your post? It was so long with space and unnecessary. :)

As to the flimsy content here, handle the facts in with reason and truthfulness, plus a nice manner if you don't mind, and we'll talk.

Handle Lear's point.

After different someones smeared him again and again for other ideas, and then deflected onto my wording for the effect he describes much better, and then deflected again onto equations in aerodynamics, without handling the issues ...

Will someone please handle them properly? If not, the point rests.

But the fakery makes it evident they had a lot to cover for. So the physics of planes is one way to understand it; the fakery another.
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more `do as I say' from maxiluser in a skirt

what makes you think that I give a shit about what YOU want clunk???

you are a waste of oxygen and bandwidth

did I offend you???- well GOOD

because YOU clunk are offensive to sanity and truth by your very existance....








































































so go watch some more utube garbage- because you have proved nothing...
(except that canadians seem to be more gullible than most when it comes to believing garbage..maybe its your braincell freezing???
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No, sorry Stoopid, your appeal to authority of a course doesn't work in this case.

I can be well informed enough of a phenomenon in plain descriptive language by an expert to understand what HE claims in the basic form.

I do not have to know ALL about aerodynamics to understand that air pressure affects fan rotation and lift. Exactly how isn't the point. The point is the relevance to the question of these planes doing these things.

I backed the claim up. HE knows aerodynamics in more depth. Argue with HIS technical knowledge.

I understand the claim overall. You want to know more, argue the case. I want to see it. Go on? Or does your hot air only go one way? LOL!

As to shame, I know more of it than you do, clearly, for I know I have struggled to face many truths here, and sort through which parts have validity -- making mistakes along the way -- but have sorted through a lot more than you and felt ashamed I didn't suspect these things. I have also followed the twists and turns of the developing arguments, which means I have had to deeply change my mind on many issues, and sometimes change it back again corrected on some part.



wrong canadian breaddead moron

(what is it about canadia anyways?? we had luser and his `canadian word' and clunk and her canadian braindeath....



hummmm..

or is it the one canadian???
lost the foulmouth abuse and is now being paid to act the dumb bimbo

we know he was getting paid by nancy - is this his new assignment???

LOL



(luser all dressed up in his best frilly underwear- what a sight THAT would be...)
on second thoughts NAH I do NOT want THAT image in my head.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

What's really funny is the difference in reason here in my favour. I mean, you guys want to know what happened, and want to really learn truth (or maybe to be ego-satisfied in debunking) ... do your job.

The material glares at you. Do something with it. Insulting me is no reason-substitute for the issues you are not handling at all.

Are you so afraid of such ideas in principle, that to you they cannot be true -- and if they are they are not to be handled? You clearly are not afraid of them without looking. But if they were true, would they be so awful? It only means more fakery in an event we know was false, through every major avenue of inquiry. I mean, they'd make anyone barf to know this was done, but are they so intellectually silly?

Not IN SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES where intelligence agencies and sympathetic or greedy participants are brought in. By the time some might realize they were part of something fishy (several FBI are in this category now, and probably some in the media, and so on), they are too late.
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ignores more clunk babbling

something about we are afraid of the truth??

clunk you wouldnt know the truth if it came up and punched you in the face- something you richly deserve
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more `do as I say' from maxiluser in a skirt

what makes you think that I give a shit about what YOU want clunk???

you are a waste of oxygen and bandwidth

did I offend you???- well GOOD

because YOU clunk are offensive to sanity and truth by your very existance....

[...]

so go watch some more utube garbage- because you have proved nothing...
(except that canadians seem to be more gullible than most when it comes to believing garbage..maybe its your braincell freezing???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

Insult me? Are you kidding?

As to the issue of MY wanting something; I don't -- except truth. YOU are projecting, in suggesting I want, as an ego, to hear you handle the info. Is egotism the only motivation you recognize?

How about wanting something so everyone gets on the better page? How about recognizing others might be afraid of "being silly" or "horrible things happening and they having to know it" and so on?

I know it's unpleasant and sounds, prima facie, silly.

So did a whole bunch of badge men walking around colecting evidence on a big killing (JFK's death) -- well, that would require front companies to make fake ID, police involvement, agents, faking of photos, ruining the (ordinarily) best evidence of the car and the body ... and so on.

But it was so.

So, not from my ego, but YOU AND YOUR COHORTS ASKED for the explanation of my point about the airplane engine pressure problems, and I provided it. Deflecting will not ACTUALLY assuage your fears of handling it. So handle it.

Or don't, but then, you will know somewhere in you that there are loose ends -- and I have shown how loose they are already, and maybe scared you with the depth of the 9/11 theatrepiece most of us bought. As Darwin said about the frozen Mammoths, they always gave him nightmares. He knew they didn't fit pure uniformitarianism.

Handle Lear FOR YOUR OWN SAKE. And handle the Vicsim photos. And the parallax problems. Or you have not done your duty.

Unfortunately, they require that a lot of people lied, and that events were combinations, not quite as solid as you thought.

Hey, Newton was into weird stuff -- some of it being bunk and some of it being GRAVITY (that was seen as kooky at first). Give it a try. You might find a new solidity of hypothesis instead of your old 9/11 tropes. My hypothesis is an emotionaly ugly hypothesis but it fits the full facts elegantly. It requires a lot of complexity but the facts suggest complexity. The ultimate hypothesis is thus simple: no planes hit the stated locations on 9/11, at least none as claimed (possibly a Sky Warrior hit the Pentagon, but that's really dodgy).
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ignores more clunk babbling

something about we are afraid of the truth??

clunk you wouldnt know the truth if it came up and punched you in the face- something you richly deserve
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

"Project much," Stoopid?

You never handle the facts. Try it. Give it your old one-two.

The facts are the issue. DEAL with them (without saying it's for my ego so you won't do it).

Scared of no planes? Scared of the theatre?

We should take you to Phantom of the Opera. How appropriate: phantom planes AND theatre.
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yawns- nothing worth replying to from clunk as usual
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But seriously guys, when you get your heads out of your worries and pugilism, you will see I don't want to fight you. I merely want you to see the facts and if they're debunkable, so be it. If not, they're not.

And then -- cue music -- 9/11 becomes revealed as a complete and deadly charade.

9/11 was what it was. Let's find out what it was. And if what it was was a lot of what it wasn't said to be, then so BE it.

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yawns- nothing worth replying to from clunk as usual
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

You didn't read; I can tell.

Having said that, you can stay in your safe place, your "happy place".

<shakes head> Try reading what I said. You might actually like it -- not the implications for your world, but you might find it made sense.

You're the pilot, right? What about Lear's point?

You cannot sleep right knowing it was a good point and you ignored it. You may think you will, but the planes couldn't do those things.

Of course, you don't have to admit to me that Lear had a point. Keep it to yourself until your own ego is strong enough to admit it. I had to do the same myself, re. the videos and so on.
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I said the same a few dozen pages back- there doesn't seem to be a conspiracy theory that clunk wont embrace eagerly...

what to me is amusing is that she continues to berate us for being closed minded- when she has shown that she can `believe' in two opposing theories at the same time

I am GLAD that I am closed minded- if clunk is an example of what being `open minded' is

shes so open minded her mind fell out....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

Two opposing theories at the same time?

And which theory do you say is not true, and why?

:)

Bilderberg is real; 9/11 was a fraud; JFK's death was a fraud; etc.
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You are forgetting stealth . . . and terrain following technology . . . unless there were AWACS in the air it could have gotten through.

I'm talking about visuals. People see cruise missiles.
They aren't traveling all that fast. CNN in Baghdad filmed
a few incoming in 2003. The few that do travel at supersonic
speed are very large and definitely noticeable when launched.

Yes, but they were expecting them . . . have you driven in D.C. area? I could easily see a cruse coming up the Potomac without anyone taking notice.
 Quoting: George B

A man actually is on witness about a flyover on the Potomac AFTER the smoke.

I think it's part of the CIT witness depositions.
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more clunk babbling

we tried actually talking to you clunk- and you were the one that didnt bother replying, page after page of your insane babbling instead so

totally ignores the latest clunk babbling
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Ahhh.

Now I see George is an AJ fan. It all becomes clear.

Sad, but clear.


R.
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From what he said, George is not a "fan" as in a "fanatic" nor am I as I have made clear. The man does expose and provide many things to look at, some of which are common knowledge in circles other than yours: historical, economic, religious, political, etc.

Each one has a piece of the pie, but not all people within each know of the key links between them, some of which AJ knows of and keeps reminding his listeners about.

We have a lot to watch, and are in a global political awakening against al oligarchic interests. It's a birth pang, so to speak, for the common person not only to know -- as they used to -- how debauched some leadership conspiracies are in all fields (religious, political-temporal, economic, etc.), but also to fight it directly without being infiltrated.

Think of it as a new American Revolution, but global. Hopefully, it will include the factions of people waking up just getting together in knowledge and refusal to participate in key areas the oligarchic class would -- generally speaking -- like to push.

This takes a lot of awareness, though.

AJ isn't perfect -- as I mentioned several times. But in the areas he's good, he's very good. It's also a good place to check for news hub from the world, on these key power issues. Not everything posted there is actually significant, and some has undue bias mixed with excellent reportage in the same article, but overall you begin to get clear how very MUCH of some of this stuff IS reported somewhere, but also how little of some issues is reported.

I think the big thing in reportage control is NOT MAKING CONNECTIONS ... like, a tidbit is given, and a wrong impression formed in your mind, even if they don't say anything untoward in the article, such as outright disinfo.

Kind of like on 9/11: your willingness not to notice or not to CONNECT the pieces which don't work, means you assume more is okay than really is. You may know a general "it's bad" but you don't know how very sneaky some of it is. Once you do, a lot unravels. But then you have to deal with ordinary-style ideas from people who don't want to know yet.

Take your time. The facts will wait. However, the world is moving on from you and it's lying along the way if you don't pursue some of this well.

But AJ is not perfect. He just does some things with fervour and back-up. I like both. We need fervour for real fights. And we need good multidisciplinary knowledge from our newscasters: he does have that. He doesn't have it in all ways, but he tells enough that others will check it out and find the power does run from oligarchs in many ways.
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clunk babbling again- something about she believes every conspiracy theory on the planet or something
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more clunk babbling

we tried actually talking to you clunk- and you were the one that didnt bother replying, page after page of your insane babbling instead so

totally ignores the latest clunk babbling
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

Tried talking to me?

LOLOL!

Handle Lear. Handle the photos. Handle the parallax. They require handling.

The talking from your end was to say I needed to know an equation in ordinary aerodynamics to understand that at some point the plane would become uncontrollable.

Or to just insult what I sent and say you "debunked it" because it had what you didn't want to hear.

I saw no actual debunking -- except that you didn't like that people could go on a "tear circuit" with 2 identical-faced photos of a false loved one. But of course they CAN and HAVE to be in some 9/11 memorial circumstances, because their particular photos can't be genuine.

And in THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, the usually improbable can turn into highly probable: it was an intelligence op. This is what they DO.

Plus, that hghly probable becomes a near certainty which is REQUIRED from the other evidence: the photos, etc.

It's not a notion from regular life jumping into the nearly impossible. It's not regular life; things are possible in the organized intelligence theatre which are not really possible and probable in other circumstances.
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Also, dear:

more clunk babbling

we tried actually talking to you clunk- and you were the one that didnt bother replying, page after page of your insane babbling instead so

totally ignores the latest clunk babbling
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

You still haven't handled Lear. Take a shot at it. Can't, can you?

That's what's making you clam up and just try to insult me. Well, good. At least your reticence to handle the facts of the matter will reveal to you at some point that there is something you are missing -- even if you COULD have debunked it, you have simply missed it in just consoling yourself by trying to insult me.

Handle Lear's claim, not his character. Handle parallax probs, not your belief that they just used planes though they could have not done so. Handle Vicsim duplicates and quadruplicates, not the (understandable) cry of horror you gave at the idea of some fake family members being on a circuit with real ones.
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clunk babbling again- something about she believes every conspiracy theory on the planet or something
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No, Prisonplanet is A Jones' site.

He posts news from around the world, as well as articles people associated with him write.
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Anyone seen the Bermas clip? You'll like what he says. He thinks it's all bunk. ... Catch: He's the sound track only though.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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We also know they, like others in the V became involved over history in HORRIBLE things that are quite commonly written about -- q.v. the Inquisition for starters,
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


More shocking revelations from the Great White North:

Catholics were involved in the Inquisition.

What? No Youtube video to back that up?
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No, Prisonplanet is A Jones' site.
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It is? Really? Are you sure?

Keep digging. You're getting to the bottom of the onion now.
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Anyone seen the Bermas clip? You'll like what he says. He thinks it's all bunk. ... Catch: He's the sound track only though.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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The Most Scottish Man in Canada

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Clunk troll getting desperate as more ignore her.
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I have often wondered why some of the most die hard kooks on GLP are Canadians. First Luser and Freestore, now we have Clare. Not all of us are this stupid.
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I have often wondered why some of the most die hard kooks on GLP are Canadians. First Luser and Freestore, now we have Clare. Not all of us are this stupid.
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hmmm so prove them wrong....





;-)

just kidding

not ALL canadians are wankers...
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but the ones that are certainly try to make up for it...

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