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It's nice to see that, even without Nancy, this thread is going strong.

I noticed that Luser has been absent for quite some time. Did Nancy have to lay him off? I noticed her other paid shill still comes here occasionally.
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It's nice to see that, even without Nancy, this thread is going strong.

I noticed that Luser has been absent for quite some time. Did Nancy have to lay him off? I noticed her other paid shill still comes here occasionally.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

we havent seen luser for a while- about the same time that clunk arrived...

I did think that maybe luser had taken to wearing frilly knickers and calling himself clunk, after all a bucks a buck right?

thats about all he/she is worth, if that...

and clunk averages about 2 posts a page mostly- great for page bumps but thats about all (pure word salad)
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Anyone seen the Bermas clip? You'll like what he says. He thinks it's all bunk. ... Catch: He's the sound track only though.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Once again, I just hope that someday you and whoever else is churning out this ridiculous shit are confronted in person by a "fake" relative of one of the "fake" "vicsims."
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I never paid much attention to the details of the "no plane" theories beyond the technical arguments about the "missile theory" at the Pentagon.

The obscene viciousness towards the victims displayed not only by Clare but by the sources she is linking to is just blowing me away.

Considering who knows who many thousands are emotionally invested in what happened to the passengers, I don't see how these people can get away with attaching their real names to this.

But I guess if you're safe in your mom's basement in Moose Piss Acres.....
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It's nice to see that, even without Nancy, this thread is going strong.

I noticed that Luser has been absent for quite some time. Did Nancy have to lay him off? I noticed her other paid shill still comes here occasionally.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

He was "celebrating" the self-destruction of TLR a few pages back. He is still around and posts when it is worthwhile to do so.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Do you know what metal which has been tortured, ground-up, burned and mangled to within an inch of its life SMELLS like, Clare? It's one of the things those of us who have experience in the real, mechanical world of machinery and manufacturing know about, Clare. It's a man thing.


I didn't get your joke here, Menow. To me what you're saying IS a sexist remark. Because what you're saying is that MEN know about mechanical stuff while WOMEN don't. In reality smelling, knowing or experiencing have nothing to do with genitals.

And this wasn't your first sexist remark either. On page 573 you replied to Clare this way:


Clare, you are an embarrassment to your gender.


That's something only directed at women. Men don't need to hear that sort of stuff; men are not shamed because of their gender.


What? How does that imply that women are, or should be, ashamed because of their gender? It actually says the opposite!


No it doesn't say the opposite. You saying Clare is an embarrassment to her gender is not praising females or Clare as a female.

If Clare is an embarrassment to her gender that means in your opinion Clare is not the kind of woman she should be, in your opinion. And, inherent in that statement is an idea of how in your opinion all women should be like. And that's sexist.


Funny, but another woman on the thread (appologies for not remembering the name), agreed with my specific statement wholeheartedly. I guess you don't really speak for all women, as you imagine.

Heh.
 Quoting: Menow 992236


And here you are again, Menow, showing your sexist ideas. You think you can judge women as how well they represent their gender. You're not the one to be the judge of that. It's not a voting matter, either. What other women do or say is irrelevant. What I say is what you respond to, now, Menow. And I say that you're being sexist with your language.


Oh you blind one.

Not seeing the very real inequality means maintaining the inequality.
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Or she may be lying.


You're locked into an irrational ideological obsession and are completely disregarding individual human reality.

The difference between you and someone like Pol Pot is only a matter of degree not kind.

Or to put in other words you're being a major asshole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583


This is the post to which Clare draw pure adulterated bs. As if every reasonable argument should be wrong because there has to be a conspiracy. And as if every fake would prove that to be the case.

It's insane.
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so who is the finnish zetatard??

isnt our self pleasuring ningtard, or either of the canadian idiots

dont tell me nancy has a finnish server as well?
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so who is the finnish zetatard??

isnt our self pleasuring ningtard, or either of the canadian idiots

dont tell me nancy has a finnish server as well?
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Oh yeah! Care to back that up with something, asshole? I thought not. You Nancy-is-everywhere believers are a laugh!
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Ahhh.

Now I see George is an AJ fan. It all becomes clear.

Sad, but clear.


R.

From what he said, George is not a "fan" as in a "fanatic" nor am I as I have made clear.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


You have made yourself perfectly clear, here, dear, Clare.

You have made yourself very intimately explicit in so many ways, dear, Clare, Clear, Here.

What kind of a woman are you, Clare?

On Topic:

Fans are not fanatics per se. But they can be. If anyone would follow your thinking, and believe it, it would make a fanatic fan who is dangerous to his or her surroundings. Not to mention a risk to her or his Soul.

It all becomes clear.

Clare, you clearly are not a bad type. You mean well. Your intentions are good. You've discovered something shocking (to you) but not all of the shock was/is true, as in real.

This is the 9/11. Fans turned fanatics and did things that shocked the world. And you're right, there are things that haven't been clearly proven wrong. But most of the things that you shout about here have been proven wrong, meaning they've been debunked as any sane person following the whole discussion can see. You haven't clearly been following the whole discussion (and I can prove that if necessary) and you shout about things that already have been debunked in this thread. Don't you open the links? Don't you read what's inside of them? Don't you think about that stuff at all? And you claim to be some kind of an expert or an activist HERE? GET OUT!
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so who is the finnish zetatard??

isnt our self pleasuring ningtard, or either of the canadian idiots

dont tell me nancy has a finnish server as well?

Oh yeah! Care to back that up with something, asshole? I thought not. You Nancy-is-everywhere believers are a laugh!
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i am almost thinking that loser has found a finnish proxy- its certainly foulmouthed enough
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we tried actually talking to you clunk- and you were the one that didnt bother replying, page after page of your insane babbling instead so

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Yes, that is true. And Clare totally ignored it. Hence, she's able to maintain false belief.
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so who is the finnish zetatard??

isnt our self pleasuring ningtard, or either of the canadian idiots

dont tell me nancy has a finnish server as well?

Oh yeah! Care to back that up with something, asshole? I thought not. You Nancy-is-everywhere believers are a laugh!

i am almost thinking that loser has found a finnish proxy- its certainly foulmouthed enough
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You're clearly not thinking at all now. Do some research and then get back to me.
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you seem to think that you are worth spending time on

sorry- I got better things to do than play guess who with a foul mouthed finnish wanker like yourself, you are simply a minor amusement while waiting to see if I just got a new boat or not

so either say what you are just dying to spill or shut up, I wont be playing games with you
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You have made yourself perfectly clear, here, dear, Clare.

You have made yourself very intimately explicit in so many ways, dear, Clare, Clear, Here.

What kind of a woman are you, Clare?


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WTF??

ALMOST SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE IS TRYING TO HINT AT SOMETHING...MIGHT WANDER OVER TO THE NING AND SEE IF ANY FINNISH TARDS HAVE A HARD ON FOR ANY CANADIAN BITCHES...

;-)
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Here we are in June and only six months until what I consider to be Nancy's ultimate failure occurs. After all, she said that 2012 was "too far out." I don't consider that to be the case anymore but I'm giving her until 2011. Then her failure will be complete.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Here we are in June and only six months until what I consider to be Nancy's ultimate failure occurs. After all, she said that 2012 was "too far out." I don't consider that to be the case anymore but I'm giving her until 2011. Then her failure will be complete.
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Yep. BUMP for the final FAILURE of ZetaTalk!
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Yes, I have driven there, and people would have noticed.
There are folks who do boating on that river, you know.
There's just too many ways people would have seen something
like that.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Fair obseration; however, a cruse may not make enough noise to call attention to itself (lost in the ambient noise). It would also move so fast at a very low altitude . . . not like in Iraq where it was probably designed to make the greatest impression as possible as an in-your-face object lesson.

Dude, half of GLP thinks Jones is an FBI informant!
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I guess I haven't been here long enough to know that . . . what then is his purpose . . . disinformation, helping to I.D. the kooks to be placed on surveillance . . . What?
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Flying a passenger jet at cruising speed at 25 feet might not be a good idea, but if your intention is to use the plane as a missile and you have no plans to survive anyway it's not impossible.

Whee, my IP is unbanned! Been trying to post but couldn't.
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We also know they, like others in the V became involved over history in HORRIBLE things that are quite commonly written about -- q.v. the Inquisition for starters,


More shocking revelations from the Great White North:

Catholics were involved in the Inquisition.

What? No Youtube video to back that up?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583

My point was from the other end of history -- here, now: that it wasn't just a religious outporing from its time, but was a political torture squad which would refuse, as did the CIA under Kennedy, to be disbanded.

And when I say political, I mean in effect an "army" of propagandists, black prison experts, renditioners (kidnappers) and so on, all organized.

You think they would give that up and be disbanded? The hard core ones would train the next generation, and work with powerful laypeople as well as inside the temporal power seat at the V.

THAT is what we find evidence of.
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Clare!

I posted pics a few pages back -- any chance you might do the same?

How are you today?
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Clunk troll getting desperate as more ignore her.
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LOL!

I'm not desperate.

Your position on 9/11 is desperately untenable.

Handle the facts, the ones which you have to handle to know either way --

Parallax problems in the vids; Vicsim copied/pasted faces in passenger memorial photo faces of the "same person over time" AND morph CLOSE resemblances between firefighter identity photos, etc.; and Lear's points (including the one I posted about controllability of planes at that speed and air pressure.

Until then, your ignoring me does you no good. You know that.

You have a chance to debunk the salient points. You can't (not the photo evidence anyway) -- so cry me a river, guys.

All the rest comes into doubt because of the photo fakery.
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Anyone seen the Bermas clip? You'll like what he says. He thinks it's all bunk. ... Catch: He's the sound track only though.

clip from www.youtube.com: The Most Scottish Man in Canada
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583


What does this have to do with the Bermas clip?

He says the planes were real and the victims all have real mourners.

But the photos say otherwise. ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE "FIREFIGHTERS" after his clip is over ... they MUST have been boosting #s of dead.
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Clare!

I posted pics a few pages back -- any chance you might do the same?

How are you today?
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Oh ... Hi.

I didn't see them.

What page? I thought I'd gotten to all of them; I was quite busy posting yesterday as you might have noticed.

By the way:

how does one post a pic here?
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Flying a passenger jet at cruising speed at 25 feet might not be a good idea, but if your intention is to use the plane as a missile and you have no plans to survive anyway it's not impossible.

Whee, my IP is unbanned! Been trying to post but couldn't.
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Why was it banned? (The IP)

Plane that size couldn't get to 1 foot off the ground at that speed, for flying. It would have to have been at 1 foot or less to make the hole in the Pentagon.

TOO MUCH LIFT.

In a near nose-dive, yes, but then it would be striking the ground and leave parts of itself stuck in the wall and outside as it broke and part of it skidded forward "into the hole" possibly.
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Vicsim copied/pasted faces in passenger memorial photo faces of the "same person over time" AND morph CLOSE resemblances between firefighter identity photos,
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


Completely ridiculous.

That one inane video you posted was alleging "morphed" pictures proved Todd Beamer wasn't a real victim.

Along with a number of other extremely well documented passengers.

You're as nutty as the poster who sees people having dinner parties on the moon in NASA photos.
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I have often wondered why some of the most die hard kooks on GLP are Canadians. First Luser and Freestore, now we have Clare. Not all of us are this stupid.
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I am far from stupid, which is obvious to anyone who knows what real scientific mindedness is and what a real open mind is:

the latter is to believe WITH TESTABLE EVIDENCE, and LOGICAL DEDUCTION (as a LONG-ESTABLISHED PROCESS).

the former is to INSIST ON THE TESTS FOR THAT EVIDENCE and STICKING TO LOGICAL DEDUCTION as best one can, on EVERY TOPIC.

You seem to think innocent mistakes along the way are proof of "unscientific-mindedness" in people (like me) who otherwise are very careful.

You also seem to confuse the TOPIC with the METHOD.


Let me let you in on a secret: a person may be a kook or an open-minded genius to be looking at what is currently often passed by.

And even IF their personal reasons are kooky, their work may well be genius.

So either way, the TOPIC is not the determinant of silliness; the USE OR NON-USE OF THE METHOD IS.

All of what I've brought up has to have a rational complete explanation. Unfortunately, the rational explanation SOUNDS EMOTIONALLY like irrationality. But in fact an intelligence op could and often does take advantage of everything implied here by me for 9/11. And 9/11 was most likely an intelligence op, in the broad sense of the term.

So ... handle Lear's point(s), the video parallax problems (video: Sept. Clues pt. 9), and the Vicsim photo duplicate heads and morphed head different identities. Some are quite clear.

Go ahead.

I dare ya. Be a debunker. You'll just be frustrated in your attempt or have to wake up. I went through the same process and clearly I am no dummy, as you know deep down even if you don't admit it to yourself. TRY the evidence. It bites, but won't burn you.
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Vicsim copied/pasted faces in passenger memorial photo faces of the "same person over time" AND morph CLOSE resemblances between firefighter identity photos,


Completely ridiculous.

That one inane video you posted was alleging "morphed" pictures proved Todd Beamer wasn't a real victim.

Along with a number of other extremely well documented passengers.

You're as nutty as the poster who sees people having dinner parties on the moon in NASA photos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583

Not true at ALL>

Watch the Bermas clip the full way. I dare you.

And you know what? ONE COPIED/PASTED PHOTO HEAD is already a rat.

Beamer is one; Honor Elizabeth Wanio is another; so are many many more.

And then look at the fireman morph photo ids! Some are almost exactly the same.

And then consider the other fact: most pics are horrible from the original memorial -- some you can't even see the person clearly -- and have not been updated in 8 years by any family.

We know SOME people died that day. Most didn't.
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Along with a number of other extremely well documented passengers.

You're as nutty as the poster who sees people having dinner parties on the moon in NASA photos.
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Well documented? By whom? A university school claiming -- as with Obama -- tha they were there? Yah right. Who remembers them? School officials have been histoically well corruptible. Some of our intelligentsia is affiliated with CIA, etc. You do know that, right? Others cold be bribed, etc. Create a Web page. That's all it would take. Who is gonna search for her essays on record? And which ones would be on record?

And a family member crying and doing the circuit? Plant possibly.

So ... the photos.
They are the smoking gun documentation: deal with them.

..........

As to the NASA photos: when the TV has a flap down on a backpack facing you and a photo "shot" has it way up and triangular "at the same moment" there's a fake involved.

Go from there.