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FDNY black-whites (middle page):

Bocchino and Carroll are so sloppy.

Fletcer and Glascoe not better either.

See the flipped eyes of Thomas Kelly and Robert King?

Prior and Mulligan, bad job: Mulligan's ears are THE SAME flipped on either side of his head; that's the only difference between the two really.

Nose and eyebrows of William Burke and Brian Ahearn?

Allen and Girodano (except Allen's eyelids are smudged shut -- or was it another mug of the same spook?)

[link to septemberclues.info]

So ... ALL victims must be vetted, especially any with low bio history AND/OR fake photos.

Some with low bio history or photo anomalies could turn out to be okay -- if the photo anomalies aren't MAJOR.

Some are though, so:
WHAT family? What boss, University, High School? University's easy to fake: who would remember -- Obama got away with that one. But High School? Was Wanio there, or someone of that name? If so, what happened to her that her photos had to be flip-flopped and same-headed?

What is she, a ghost before she's dead?

A "spook"?

LOL!
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Jimmy Sands and Mark Zeplin, too.

Etc.

They took the same face and gave it a different body -- without any change on those ones.

Like most of Wanio, and the 2 of Beamer.
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Anyone really looked yet? At all?

Closely?

Exact flips in some?

Etc.?

Anyone GET it?

:)

5a


It's a pyrrhic victory if you do: it's a victory of understanding, and tears for real lies. It's not a victory of having the world okay.

Now we have to MAKE it better. (Lennon, etc. :) said so)
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Wrongo -- thinking about testable items IS science, silly.
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EXACTLY...and you fail at that.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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At the risk of taking this thread back on topic, have you guys seen the relaunch status of the Zetasquawk page?Hilarious. Looks like the government is getting ready to launch a new campaign against Nancy. ROFLMAO.
[link to www.zetasquawk.com]
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That's hilarious...and sad at the same time because even though it's meant to be a joke, Nancy and her followers actually believe it.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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At the risk of taking this thread back on topic, have you guys seen the relaunch status of the Zetasquawk page?Hilarious. Looks like the government is getting ready to launch a new campaign against Nancy. ROFLMAO.
[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

That's hilarious...and sad at the same time because even though it's meant to be a joke, Nancy and her followers actually believe it.
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Actually I think most people on GLP and particularly this thread KNOW that it is YOU that is the running joke here for what, years now, Circuit Not-so-Bright. Must really suck to be you, young man!
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At the risk of taking this thread back on topic, have you guys seen the relaunch status of the Zetasquawk page?Hilarious. Looks like the government is getting ready to launch a new campaign against Nancy. ROFLMAO.
[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

That's hilarious...and sad at the same time because even though it's meant to be a joke, Nancy and her followers actually believe it.
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They'll believe ANYTHING if it can possibly be interpreted in any way that might support their delusion!
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At the risk of taking this thread back on topic, have you guys seen the relaunch status of the Zetasquawk page?Hilarious. Looks like the government is getting ready to launch a new campaign against Nancy. ROFLMAO.
[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

That's hilarious...and sad at the same time because even though it's meant to be a joke, Nancy and her followers actually believe it.



Actually I think most people on GLP and particularly this thread KNOW that it is YOU that is the running joke here for what, years now, Circuit Not-so-Bright. Must really suck to be you, young man!
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That simply doesn't tally with my experience. By far the majority of people on GLP think Nancy is a delusional nut-case. The so-called 'debunkers' have been right every time, and Nancy has never been.

You are either a pathological liar or completely out of touch with reality.
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At the risk of taking this thread back on topic, have you guys seen the relaunch status of the Zetasquawk page?Hilarious. Looks like the government is getting ready to launch a new campaign against Nancy. ROFLMAO.
[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

That's hilarious...and sad at the same time because even though it's meant to be a joke, Nancy and her followers actually believe it.



Actually I think most people on GLP and particularly this thread KNOW that it is YOU that is the running joke here for what, years now, Circuit Not-so-Bright. Must really suck to be you, young man!


That simply doesn't tally with my experience. By far the majority of people on GLP think Nancy is a delusional nut-case. The so-called 'debunkers' have been right every time, and Nancy has never been.

You are either a pathological liar or completely out of touch with reality.
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Just an FYI, the boycott of maxipad and luser is still in effect this month.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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And all the identical photos of others and flimsy bios or no bios and no updates in 9 years.



How the hell are you going to update their photos or biographies?

THEY'RE DEAD!

And this is why Clunk is a waste of time.
 Quoting: DrPostman


No, dear. By update I mean give more info or comments than immediately were available on the se innocents: the Colaio brothers had ONE comment from a friend from 2003 to 2009. It was last updated then and with no other info --

NOW the page is different and has a memory log. Somebody added that in SINCE this photo-analysis and bio analysis was done in 2009.

Some "innocents" had no bio all along. Others had lots from the start but repeated faces. And some, like the Colaio brothers characters had only a friend comment last update 2003. How un-REAL-istic.

Keep going, Postman. Deliver the post to where it belongs: the real victims and the spooks who made the false photos and non- or low-quality bios, plus (for Beamer and Wainio) a more complete bio but those same fake photos.


At the risk of taking this thread back on topic, have you guys seen the relaunch status of the Zetasquawk page?Hilarious. Looks like the government is getting ready to launch a new campaign against Nancy. ROFLMAO.
[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

Yep, Zetasquawk is coming back, and the Ningcompoops are
going to freak.

And now Clunk thinks it's a government site :wrotfl2:

I have known what's going on with the site since before
it's been put up. That woman, Clunk, is a moron if she
believes that the US government set it up or controls it
at all.
 Quoting: DrPostman

I never thought Zetasquawk was gov't. Someone else said Nancy does. Geez. LOL!

I did ask if the poster thought it was. That's all. Clear now, Dr?
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That's hilarious...and sad at the same time because even though it's meant to be a joke, Nancy and her followers actually believe it.



Actually I think most people on GLP and particularly this thread KNOW that it is YOU that is the running joke here for what, years now, Circuit Not-so-Bright. Must really suck to be you, young man!
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Why do you say this? I have not been here so long as to know the history on these people here, except what they've revealed in my own experience here, or what others say, such as you?

Curious. TY.
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I never thought Zetasquawk was gov't. Someone else said Nancy does. Geez. LOL!

I did ask if the poster thought it was. That's all. Clear now, Dr?
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groan.....people simply don't do their homework. Nancy never claimed it was government, in fact she said it was not, is not, paid for by government money or worked at by government employees. Private company, of scared but stingy elitists.

Chalk it up to the debunkers, wheelin' with precision on that one. Right over everyone's head, too. sheesh! "Ma, there's gamblin' goin' on in here!! MAAAAA!!!!"
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I never thought Zetasquawk was gov't. Someone else said Nancy does. Geez. LOL!

I did ask if the poster thought it was. That's all. Clear now, Dr?


groan.....people simply don't do their homework. Nancy never claimed it was government, in fact she said it was not, is not, paid for by government money or worked at by government employees. Private company, of scared but stingy elitists.

Chalk it up to the debunkers, wheelin' with precision on that one. Right over everyone's head, too. sheesh! "Ma, there's gamblin' goin' on in here!! MAAAAA!!!!"
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Okay. Well, my name's clear from this mess anyway, at least. I never said anything on it either way except to ask what the person believed, who said it here.

As to precision of key issues and relative weight, no -- it's not a strong point here.

Photo fakery demands interviews of all survivors, and checks into all names. Some might clear -- the ones with more questionable fakery -- but some are clearly faked photos.

The Colaio brothers are a hoot (so to speak, when we're talking of the lying spooks and their bosses) -- NO tributes except 1, from a friend, in 2003 ... no other tributes for 2 top execs? And no comments from 2003-2009?

NOW there's a back-log provided of "signatories" in their memory. Since 2009 when this comparison went up with the screen shot.

:P

“THE COLAIO BROTHERS”
Then there is the extraordinary story of the "COLAIO brothers". Both were purportedly senior managing directors at Cantor Fitzgerald (which supposedly lost more than 650 of their employees in the twin Towers). Mark and Stephen COLAIO (sadly) share the same, lone personal tribute by their common friend "Desiree". No one else has apparently bothered to comment on their very dramatic deaths - in over 8 years! They also share the same official tribute on LEGACY.COM which goes like this:

"There are countless ways to encapsulate Mark and Stephen Colaio, but the T-shirts do it in three words. The brothers owned matching shirts that they wore every chance they got. On the front was inscribed, "Life Is Good."Mark Colaio was a senior managing director and ran the agency desk at Cantor Fitzgerald, and he recruited his brother to work with him as a broker on the desk."

[link to septemberclues.info]

(Near bottom of page.)

But now it's got the log guest book and a different page style:
[link to www.legacy.com]
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“THE COLAIO BROTHERS”
Then there is the extraordinary story of the "COLAIO brothers". Both were purportedly <bullshit snipped>
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


[link to www.downtownexpress.com]

Committee backs street name for Tribeca brothers

By Elizabeth O’Brien

In a reversal of its earlier position on naming streets after 9/11 victims, a Community Board 1 committee voted to co-name the northeast corner of Beach St. for two Tribeca brothers who died in the collapse of the World Trade Center.

Mark and Stephen Colaio, third-generation Downtowners, worked together at Cantor Fitzgerald and lived close to one another in Tribeca. Their sister, Jean Colaio Steinbach, and Mark’s wife, June, appeared before the board on March 4 to request that a street corner where Mark lived at 260 W. Broadway be co-named “Colaio Way.

Co-naming the street for Mark, 34, and Stephen, 32, Colaio would be “a way to keep the memory alive in our community,” said Rick Landman, a board member.

Colaio [said] that Mark was committed to the area and sent his two young children to neighborhood schools. After Sept. 11, 2001, Colaio said, she had opportunities to leave Tribeca but decided to remain with Delaney, now 5, and Joseph, 4.

“I feel very connected to him, staying down here,” Colaio said, her eyes filling with tears.

Colaio also lost her brother, Thomas Pedicini, 30, in the attack on the World Trade Center; Pedicini worked at Cantor Fitzgerald with his brothers-in-law.

“Having heard your presentation, I think every rule is made for exceptions, and I think this is a fitting exception,” said Michael Connolly, a board member.

The room erupted into applause, led by friends and family of Colaio and Steinbach, when board members voted to co-name the northeast corner of Beach St. “Colaio Way.

Steinbach said the decision meant a lot to her parents, Victor and Mary Colaio of Battery Park City; Steinbach said her father was not well enough to attend the meeting himself.

Several days after the meeting, Steinbach said her parents were touched that the board approved a tribute to their sons: “They were ecstatic.”

Elizabeth@DowntownExpress.com
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the two top-end brothers who have one friend's brief comment and were supposed to have been in charge of 650 people, but no-one's mentioned them again.

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You're wrong.

I just proved you're wrong.

Here you go, asshole. Are these "morphed" pictures planted by "shills"?


[link to www.tribecatrib.com]
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Champagne? I have a Paypal. Why not send me money. I'll guarantee it'll get to the "Colaio" brothers memorial fund for you ... it's called Spook Partay! They'll enjoy it for the Colaios.
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[link to www.tribecatrib.com]
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the two top-end brothers who have one friend's brief comment and were supposed to have been in charge of 650 people, but no-one's mentioned them again.



You're wrong.

I just proved you're wrong.

Here you go, asshole. Are these "morphed" pictures planted by "shills"?


[link to www.tribecatrib.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583


First of all,

I never said they didn't have a newspaper mention. The meeting and street name change could have not happened, or have happened with new recruits to the company caught up in mourning for a sim.

Second, these are "family members" and in a memorial non-commented-upon bio, from 2003-2009 (and only 1 in that whole period), these family members would most likely be plants. Hey, look at the faces in the portrait the old people ("grandparents") are holding: pasted faces. Can't you tell?

Anyway,

I was talking of how implausible the fact is that for 2 high execs UNTIL 2009 THERE WERE NO COMMENTS ON THIER MEMORIAL, EXCEPT 1 FROM "A FRIEND NAMED DESIREE" ON EITHER ONE, and it was left in 2003.

All the rest on their memorial were planted after 2009, after the exposure of the obviousness of this one. Many sims still don't have anything.

This article was part of the simulation in 2004 -- but no comments from anyone in their guest book, none, except the one from 2003.

Until now. Now they have a back history on the memorial site.

A newspaper article as proof is insufficient WHEN THERE'S FAKERY AND IMPLAUSIBILITY IN THEIR "MEMORIAL" IDENTITY.


Look, DEAR person, there are too many problems with these simulation people. You can tell. If you want to really interview families, whole schools, and so on, be my guest.

The photos are fake. HUNDREDS of identities were missing any comments. The rest have a few news stories (like these guys) to make it seem real, but no comments except 1 (?) for big shots? -- until now; now these ones do -- and finally very few have actual families doing the circuit for these false photos.

Wake up to the levels of the deceptions. They've got ya by the you-know-whats.

Some people WANT WAR and think it's cool to be a spook.
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Where is Returner?

Now *I*'m curious if he forgot us, not the other way around. :)

lol

Fell off a turret at Neuschwanstein?

:(
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Every day without ZetaTalk is a great one!

hf
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I never said they didn't have a newspaper mention. The meeting and street name change could have not happened, or have happened with new recruits to the company caught up in mourning for a sim.
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F'ing Canuck douchebag weasel---here's EXACTLY what you said:

the two top-end brothers who have one friend's brief comment and were supposed to have been in charge of 650 people, but no-one's mentioned them again.
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I don't know how you do it in Moose Piss Acres but I guarantee you that in Manhattan they wouldn't have changed the name of this street if the people involved weren't well known.
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The Moon DOES rotate; I always said it did relative to the Sun. Yikes! You really mix apples and oranges and continue mistakes long after they're cleared up.


26th repeat, just for consistancy sake...

You claim that all the 'confusion' was due to the fact that Nancy doesn't know that the Moon orbits Earth, yet her position that Newton doesn't properly explain the Lunar orbit show that she DOES know that the Moon orbits Earth.

Let's see if you ignore this for the 26th time. This, for the WIN!

You are so into winners and losers. Sad.

Anyway, I have been posting a lot and probably missed some comment by you in that whole.

YOU said she didn't understand it even orbits, at one point.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


That's just silly. How could she make a claim concerning the specifics of the Lunar orbit, yet now know one exists?

YOU corrected that later and I replied.
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Any such verbage is moot. Nancy knows the Moon orbits Earth, contraty to your position.

She does not understand how that works (that there is rotation and tidal lock, though she knows the latter term but thinks it glues the Moon to one place).
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Irrelevant. You claimed she didn't know that the Moon orbits Earth.

So ... for you, since YOU are confused here on this Nancy issue:

She thinks it orbits but without rotation at any level of explaining the motion (superposition). She also seems not to know it orbits with progression (27.32166 days).
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


Excuse me?? Now you just blithely reverse your claim to say that Nancy DOES know the Moon orbits Earth? Do you have NO intellectual shame?

She thinks tidal lock holds it in place over the Earth, or something like that.


She also -- and this was MY point all along which you still don't understand -- doesn't understand that the Moon can rotate at the level of the relative motion forward around the Sun. It re-orients itself to the Earth, at that level of understanding the motions; it thus is turning, rotating as it makes a sine wave. At our level, though -- not just our VIEW but -- if you consider the Sun and Earth fixed in place, the Moon shows no rotation but a revolution of Earth. I mean, not just that the Earth sees it that way, but in our UNDERSTANDING (superposition) of current motion, when eliminating MENTALLY the complications of motion around the Sun, the Moon shows an orbit of us, a revolution, no rotation.
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I don't think YOU even know what you just said. You just string words together so that it seems like you are sayimg something. Why would you go through such gyrations to say that the Moon orbits Earth over the same time that it rotates?


The latter is what's confusing Nancy, and why she thinks tidal lock "makes" the Moon face us "without any revolution".
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


Why are you explaining that to me? It is obvious that Nancy refuses to see the simple reality ONLY because she would have to admit error on the part of "Zetas".

I win. Satisfied, Menow? Now get off that. It's boring because a) we HAVE been over that, and b) Nancy's intent is to prophesy, not understand all motions. (Yes, prophesy -- pronounced "PRO-feh-sigh" -- is the verb, and prophecy -- pronounced "PRO-feh-see" -- is the noun).

The only reason her understanding of the Moon is or is not important, is to explain why she has to be wrong that the Moon is out of synch, or to correct her on what would happen to the Moon if the Earth were grabbed and torqued by something with a strong magneto-gravitic pull or magnetic push.

So, for the "WIN" I've replied, and I win. Why? Because I don't care to.
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Fascinating.
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That should have been:

That's just silly. How could she make a claim concerning the specifics of the Lunar orbit, yet NOT know one exists?
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Clunk busted AGAIN!


BTW, guess who's resurfaced with the Ningcompoops - GRANT!

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Dbincat
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Is it possible to have an IQ in negative numbers?
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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I never said they didn't have a newspaper mention. The meeting and street name change could have not happened, or have happened with new recruits to the company caught up in mourning for a sim.


F'ing Canuck douchebag weasel---here's EXACTLY what you said:


the two top-end brothers who have one friend's brief comment and were supposed to have been in charge of 650 people, but no-one's mentioned them again.

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Hold your horses. You did nothing wrong, nor did I. I am not attacking you or weaseling. Nor should you assume I am.

Thank you for finding the article. I had seen that but forgotten and the second comment I made was intended to say I meant it didn't matter about the newspaper. Don't you see that it doesn't matter?

I MEANT the context of the memorial. BUT IT ISN'T IMPORTANT IF THEY HAD A NEWSPAPER MENTION or 100.

A) Newspaper mentions can be hoaxed. What shows the simulation is: THERE WEREN'T ANY MENTIONS BUT ONE ON THE MEMORIAL for such "important" guys?! From 2003-2009 -- no updates after 2003 and guess what, ONE mention at that, from the SAME simulated commenter, "friend Desiree"?

B) To figure this one out you have to LOOK AT THE IMAGES FOR HOAXING or at any LACK OF PROBABLE MENTIONS for personas you'd expect there to be lots for.

Look at the IMPROBABILITIES.

WHY no mention on the memorial from 2003-2009 ... EVEN IF THEY HAD MULTIPLE NEWS ARTICLES (which they don't: 2 is it?)? AND only ONE hello, as it is, on the memorial from 2003-2009? (Indeed, to fix the improbability, now there are mentions in a guest log going back all the way.)

And HUNDREDS OF OTHER VICTIMS WITH NO COMMENTS, missed pages, un-fixed photos (baaad shots), and then the morphs and ... lastly, our clear cut-and-paste people?

The point is, there are too many improbabilities and impossibilities about the whole thing.

GET that? I hope you DO. We need more people awake to the fraud. :)
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That should have been:

That's just silly. How could she make a claim concerning the specifics of the Lunar orbit, yet NOT know one exists?
 Quoting: Menow 992236

Menow, you do have a way of mincing words and comments.

She knows it "goes round"; most people think of that as an orbit. She didn't understand -- if I recall correctly from the day you went at her -- about the 27.3 day actual progression, true orbit. I got that impression. You were taunting her for that, if I recall.

Nor, like most people, does she actually image it from the next layer of understanding, where rotation along a sine wave, not revolution, is knowable in the Moon's motion.

Don't be such a clunker -- to use it appropriately here -- you really are silly to pick things apart for no purpose. When you do so. Which is often.

I seem to recall she didn't know about the orbital independence for the Moon -- that's what I meant. I know for sure she seems to talk like tidal lock "locks the face in place" AND doesn't know that it in fact is still rotating.

So, whatever the case, even if she does know about the timing of the orbit itself, the key issue is she doesn't understand how that translates to rotation, in the Sun's view (and the corresponding superposition, i.e., layers of views to account for observable motions).

That's all.
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I don't know how you do it in Moose Piss Acres but I guarantee you that in Manhattan they wouldn't have changed the name of this street if the people involved weren't well known.
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I never said they couldn't mount a street name event.

I said they might have. I haven't been there so I don't know.

What I'm saying is, it's about a lie. I even said the newspaper story could be about a real event.

You people are picking at straws.

Two execs have ONE friend commenting on them AT ALL before 2009; and it was last updated in 2003.

Plus, HUNDREDS of uncommented-on identities; plus flip-flop faces; plus morph men and many missing SSDIs.


So, as PART of that picture, Colaios are one that got a street named after them, but still no updates on their memorial log book from ANYONE --

and now they have a back story in the log book.

How convenient.

:)

Once people buy the "identity" and the 9/11 myth, of course there will be the odd street named after them. We have a "Highway of Heroes" outside Toronto. Did I ask for that? :))
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Every day without ZetaTalk is a great one!

You'd think there would be more of an outcry on GLP with
her leaving but hardly anyone has taken notice. So much
for her claims of popularity.
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Hm. They probably moved with her, for that part of their week. However, you would think there would be "miss ya" GLP threads. But then again, maybe they come here for other things and go there for Nancy stuff.

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Why would you go through such gyrations to say that the Moon orbits Earth over the same time that it rotates?
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Actually, Menow, that's NOT what I was saying.

It doesn't rotate when it's considered as revolving around the Earth; and it doesn't revolve around the Earth when it's considered as rotating.

This is what -- it seems -- you didn't ever understand.

Physically stopping the Moon around the Sun (as you pointed out) would be different, for the force relationships would change and the tidal relationship would change and the Moon would rotate in our view, but ...

CONSIDERING the layers of motion relationships (superposition) of CURRENT motion, merely eliminates each type of effect -- to understand, separate each one. The TOTALITY is what's going on in fact, but each layer is the understanding of a new relative motion.

In this sense, each layer is not merely viewpoint but it may relate to what each view will tell you. For instance, we see one face of the Moon. But there's a reason: if the Sun and Earth are considered as fixed points, then revolution is what the Moon exhibits, from any viewpoint, not just the Earth's. :)

But if we consider the E-M system going forward, relative to the Sun, then from all points except from the Earth, the Moon will show a sine wave and turning (rotating).

So, the Moon doesn't rotate as it orbits, not technically. It rotates OR orbits ... both are accurate but they are different understandings.

Which is "the truth"? Nonsensical question: both are true but referring to different levels of superposition.
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Why would you go through such gyrations to say that the Moon orbits Earth over the same time that it rotates?
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Hi, Menow, but since you said over the same time you have worked in the forward motion around the Sun -- that is the superposition you are referring to -- and in doing so, you are correct. You are integrating the two superposition layers by saying over the same time.

You're implying the sine wave around the Sun with the rotation along it, but use the term revolution/orbit instead, which is the picture from Earth.

Well done! Nice integration in one sentence. As long as you know it "really" isn't "doing both" -- what you refer to as "real" motion depends on which layer of superposition you are talking from. You integrated them by equivocating the layers of reality, with that sneaky, but true, phrase "over time". You are really implying one layer of understanding -- the foward E-M system orbit around the Sun -- but then use the term "orbit" which is another layer of understanding: the Moon's motion "around" the Earth barycentre as if it's a fixed point, NOT moving forward around the Sun.

It is "in time," but it is not about the system moving forward, which your phrase implies without specifying.

Have a good night. :)

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