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Bravo! Well done sir. Afraid that will sail over her
head at light speed though.
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Very funny.

Too coherent though.
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I noticed that someone at the Ning was afraid that a rainbow occurring at 6:30am was an abberation of some sort. He posted an image which clearly showed the Sun had risen when the pic was taken. It was nothing but a normal rainbow, early in the morning. Those people have no common sense, whatsoever.
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OMG!! I better start digging my bunker right away.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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I noticed that someone at the Ning was afraid that a rainbow occurring at 6:30am was an abberation of some sort. He posted an image which clearly showed the Sun had risen when the pic was taken. It was nothing but a normal rainbow, early in the morning. Those people have no common sense, whatsoever.

OMG!! I better start digging my bunker right away.
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Did you see they're planning a get together/picnic?

I hope to try some of that fried worm potato salad.
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I noticed that someone at the Ning was afraid that a rainbow occurring at 6:30am was an abberation of some sort. He posted an image which clearly showed the Sun had risen when the pic was taken. It was nothing but a normal rainbow, early in the morning. Those people have no common sense, whatsoever.

OMG!! I better start digging my bunker right away.
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better save that shovel for max.....this ning thang....is strange to say the least...
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I noticed that someone at the Ning was afraid that a rainbow occurring at 6:30am was an abberation of some sort. He posted an image which clearly showed the Sun had risen when the pic was taken. It was nothing but a normal rainbow, early in the morning. Those people have no common sense, whatsoever.

OMG!! I better start digging my bunker right away.

better save that shovel for max.....this ning thang....is strange to say the least...
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Zetards are frightened by everything they don't understand, and they don't understand a hell of a lot!

Most natural phenomena are terrifying to Zetards, like the rising and setting of the sun and moon, the weather, ALL stars, and the rotation of the planets.

This is why they all seek reassurance from 'Aunty Nancy', and she is happy to dish out the bullshit they need to feel better about life.
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I submit, dear WAINIO, Honor Elizabeth, is one of the sob-story plants to cover for the rest who have NO page, not one updated (even faked) photo, or memorial testimony


Already submitted.

Already totally blown out of the water asshole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583

Not at all, un-thinker.

Those photos match faces exactly for Wainio (5 of them).

So either her REAL FAMILY is being set up, or she's a set up.

:)

2nd, nobody handled the Colaios. They sent the CURRENT MEMORIALS ... which were not there in 2009. In 2009 there was ONE message each, from the same "Desiree" and it was from 2003.

One mention.
Back in 2003.

So either their family in the newspaper article didn't leave testimonials, and no friends but one, or they're plants.


SIMPLE idea; emotionally icchy but really not too hard to get. - AND there are 100 more or so, plus name irregularities in the code of names. So, do wake up please. It's sad but quite normal for an intelligence op.

The real victims need to be separated from these ones.
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Did you see they're planning a get together/picnic?

I hope to try some of that fried worm potato salad.
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That's really funny. :)
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My knee is sore. Going out to get, coffee. Wait, THEY are still spraying outside. If it rains then people can’t protest…you realize this right? More, LIES!

Anyway, been posting for too long…Bye. :P



Bravo! Well done sir. Afraid that will sail over her
head at light speed though.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Of course I get it.

It's you people who don't get the simple concepts here of fakery which was even IN AN INTELLIGENCE OP (9/11). That's not so hard to get, is it? It's only emotional resistance you have.

So, look again.
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I see that Clare has been 'too busy' to do anything but explain how she is never really wrong(NRW (tm)). Again.


Yea but what if everything we thought was wrong was right and that was all that was left, right? Just(,,) look at the links …Lear, Hougland and Lieder. I know that some of their stuff is not right, but let’s look at what’s left. Should we throw that out too?
And no I don’t think that Nancy was given a message via a Starburst wrapper, and no I didn’t kill my dog. I don’t have a dog. Do you guys?

I’m just saying parylax problems, cut and paste mirror images blurry edges fake victims. This can only mean one thing. Don’t open Champagne for psych ops yet. Do you think I like, to believe this?

If you don’t understand what I’m saying then :P

I was, just kidding, I think. Don’t be mad because I think that you thought that. I’m sending you a smile so we can be friends. : )

What was I saying? Are you OK Returner?

Anyway, what about that one, video? Could Nibiru be causing all this stuff?

What about Uranus being too dark. You haven’t come close to debunking that yet.

My knee is sore. Going out to get, coffee. Wait, THEY are still spraying outside. If it rains then people can’t protest…you realize this right? More, LIES!

Anyway, been posting for too long…Bye. :P



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Yes it is. Thank you for seeing that.
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By the way, I DO wonder how Returner IS DOING.

So when you recover, Returner, from your horrible accident, please let us know.

Ty.

Clare

u2efine
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So you admit you were wrong. But you're also wrong about how the name is pronounced and about the name not being common. Wainio is originally a Finnish surname and quite common, especially spelled as Vainio. You wouldn't know how to pronounce it right, I'm pretty sure. English speakers can't pronounce Finnish language right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986902


Irrelevant to whether she's fake.

When the passenger lists were published in 2001 the Finnish consulate needed to find out if she was a Finnish citizen. It turned out she wasn't, in spite of her Finnish name. The Finnish consulate also at that time contacted all the Finnish citizens staying in New York and other places to make sure none of them had fell victim in the attacks.

Yes, Honor Wainio's identity has been used and abused - you've done that, following others having done it before you. What's fake here is the sites and sources that you use. That you don't understand that is the sad part. You're so very wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986902


Irrelevant: if planted, she could be from nowhere.

The photo fakery determines the rat is present in the identities.

(Along with other things.)
There is no photo fakery except what your dear site Septemberclues and possibly others like it have fabricated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986902


Nonsense. These images are all over the Web and were merely COMPILED by September Clues. Also, some have ow been removed from places (the Colaios, whose photos were not in question in the first place). Straw man argument.

You have insisted as evidence that some people haven't been found in SSDI. You've completely ignored the fact that not every name is shown there, and there are various reasons for that fact.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986902


I said this was a SUSPICIOUS aspect, not conclusive, except for:

a) the FAMOUS CONDITIONS OF THEIR DEATHS if geniuine would surely get them a mention, no?

b) so many of the questionable ones with family (a subset of the total questionable ids), i.e., the photo fakes most duplicated from 9/11 -- are not in the SSDI, so this is highly unlikely in probablility , again given the particular conditions of their deaths.

I'm sure the mother of Honor Wainio has nothing to complain about her daughter's appearance. For some reason you seem to have a lot to complain about how those people look in photographs, just like the Septemberclues hoaxers.
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Then give your eyes a wipe and check your impugning process: researchers COMPILED seeming anomalies. They could get them wrong but they were doing comparative forensic (visual fakery) science hypothesis, no more.

And what sob-story are you babbling about. I've never shed a tear because of 9/11 victims and I seriously doubt that most people in this world would have, either. I'm only sorry for you if you did that because of listening to George W Bush rants or watching some stupid American sob-story programs, tv-shows and whatever crap.
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The general practise of believing in these victims because of the claim they are real from a tragedy. You are constantly saying not to question their identities and so on: this is an emotional motivation (especially under the circumstances of an intelligence op that day), whether you feel visibly moved or not. It is affecting your approach.

I also seriously doubt that you would know anything about how the intelligence agencies work or what they do and what not. I have no illusions about any intelligence agencies, but Clare you're being paranoid because of what you've been reading and seeing in the internet, mainly the worst sites to be found here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986902


You are wrong on all counts.

or those big shots who have ONE photo (no close-up comparison images) and a newspaper article but NO MEMORIAL MENTIONS FROM 2003-2009, and only ONE from before that, in 2003 from one friend?!!

Does none of this make SENSE to you? ...
i.e., Add up?


You are referring to internet and what's to be found in the internet. Pictures, articles and memorial mentions in the internet. Have you been checking all the internet sites since 2001 yourself and if so, have you saved the evidence? Or do you just trust your dear researchers Donald Duck et al on that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986902


Your judgement factor of the Internet (or other sources) is not straight. You can get information off anywhere and it is vetting the information with other sources (official, etc.) which shows the claim to be true. These photos are the photos collected from memorial pages, etc., all over the world. They were merely collected by September Clues for comparison.


You have no evidence for your claims. That is my guess.

Internet is what it is, changing all the time. Not all data at all can be found in the net. You should know that not everybody can be found in the internet. Most people are not mentioned at all. There are also people who don't have internet access and many people, especially older, don't know how to use it even if there was a pc available.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986902


Some information should be consistent. Such as having DIFFERENT photos for different people, not pasty heads.

And having memorials for big shots NOT screen shots from 2009 with no memorials. The people at September Clues did not doctor the other images, and clearly are trying to get word out. They are ordinary people from every word they utter: they make mistakes and change them and plod ahead and get maligned and compile and compare. Thus, it is highly doubtful they faked the screen shot ... when the rest was faked. They are compiling the rest; there is no reason to assume they are faking.

There is, despite your protestations, reason to suspect the warmongers are faking: not only a priori reason to suspect (lots at stake for the perps so they'd pull out the stops most likey), but also the photos themselves compiled at September Clues show paste-heads AT ALL but a LOT of them (and a LOT of other anomalies in large numbers).

In addition, not everybody has friends and relatives using the internet so as to write memorial mentions. Not everybody is considered a famous person despite the fact of having been killed in the USA on that day. And not everybody would be constantly googling their relatives in the net so as to even find a site where to add their information.
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Sure. But now multiple mentions back-dated? In a context of other fakery?

:-/

And for the Colaios not to have mentions (but for one) -- originally --when they're big shots?

:-/

Moving bridges:

Astronut did NOT do the conclusive proof.


Yes he did. You just didn't understand it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986902


Oh yes I did. I even challenged him on many points. Re-read and think. He also only did the initial tests because I pointed out there would be movement in the buildings.

Re-think the optical truths and you'll see.

[...]

No it doesn't frighten me one bit.

I see right through you, Clare. I understand how and why you've been hoaxed into believing false info.
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You see nothing so how could you see through me?

LOL

People here -- it should begin to be obvious if you've read the posts -- congratulated themselves for sending me the mentions from 2001 and dropped the matter ... but those mentions are only *backdated* to 2001; they were posted after 2009.



And your hard evidence for backdates is where?
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At September Clues there's a screen shot. These people have no reason to fake that, given that their other photos come legitimately from memorial and other sites all around the world and CNN.

Btw, I've read this entire thread and every post. I listened to your radio show appearance when you first posted a link to it. I no longer bother to open your links because you've made it quite clear it's not worth it. Reading your many many posts has taken enough of my time already. That is, unless you would really have something of value to offer. So far you haven't had anything.
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No comment.

Yes, many of your posts can be interpreted in a way that it is you doing some sort of a intelligence operation. It's obvious that you've lied. It's also obvious that the sources that you use are more or less professional hoaxers. If this is news to you then you obviously haven't read the posts here or opened and read the links.
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Ridiculous. Anyone claiming the work done on the sites I sent is intelligence ops to discredit 9/11 Truth groups is a) a 9/11 truth person who is afraid of "turds in the punchbowl" so much that they miss the punch; b) an intelligence source him/herself.

The real researchers doing some of the more emotionally challenging work on the case are largely maligned and ignored, but the evidence in the videos and photos is clear to anyone objective and/or willing to do the comparative WORK to see it, and THINK about it hypothetically first.

Just think what's REQUIRED for fakery to occur. What would you FIND?

You'd find layers of inaccurate and sloppy data, all the way to finer and finer data -- but they couldn't even get that right. Just as the FBI photos of Oswald's gun show they didn't even bother to photograph the same gun; they used 3 with the same serial numbers but different number plates, and different proportions.

Sloppy, but it fooled people like you.

But that we know already.

You're so sloppy Clare that it seems deliberate.
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You're so sloppy -- or biased, perhaps -- that nothing challenges you. I have been challenged and have mostly

-picked, chosen best evidence to make it EASY for you

-mostly clearly stated what is inconclusive and why

-what is near-conclusive due to comparative evidence in other areas.

I notice that most people of your mind-set as evidenced in your last few posts, tend not to see comparisons.

You also do not tend to think through hypotheses if you don't yet see a connection. You handle a piece at a time, but with no thought of what it MIGHT mean and what you should LOOK for if it does mean one thing or another.

This means you don't GET TO THE POINT OF COMPARING. Instead it's piecemeal for you.

So you look at a photo and say you might be fooled, and don't compare all those that look odd. And say, maybe they're not BUT IF THEY ARE then what else would we find?

And what combinations and permutations would fake-photo (if so) victims' families be? -- They would be plants, or real but set up with fake photos so other fakery would be protected.

This is called thinking through the hypothesis.

Not "dissing victims".

:)

I DO think these things through. As you can see -- or ... maybe not. If you think optics change because of Astronut's brave but insufficient test ... then maybe you don't even see that I do think things through. LOL
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Astronut:

4:30 in the morning and replied to latest posts --- last page.

Will check for your reply tomorrow as to "all the rest" re. SOHO image.

I still get code only (some weird rectangle symbols mostly) at the .mil sites you linked to. And I didn't see yet a link from you -- but maybe I missed it -- specifically on what NASA says they do to corrupted images.

I would submit, however, they will not say they fill in with new information all areas which are missing and change previous and subsequent images to miss a star to cover for the error! Lol.

Filling in with new information is what 15:18 seems to exhibit, as its smooth top, bottom and Venus bloom extend too far to the left of Venus: its movement over would leave a blank space there, at the because the original edge of digital info captured would be moved to the right, too, if any section moved to the right by compression/lost data in between.

...........................

I will at the same time hope you bother with any kind conciliatory message you would like to make back to me -- re. your words to me (manner) and to show me that you see:

a) we had a misunderstanding which you had from the video (that it was hiding "compression lines" when I saw them there and they're on Nancy's site, too), which made you impugn me as well.

b) that I never suggested the images shouldn't be found and linked to.

c) that I somehow was "lying" in saying I couldn't access the images from SOHO. Whatever I did to pull them up pulled up not the right times. I do not usually use their database directly. Usually people have linked me to it for some reason or other. TY for doing that with the image here, by the way. :)
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I'm back. Feeling much better this time around -- my attempt to return to work was a bit of a disaster. But I did meet my last deadline.

Thanks for the well-wishes.

I see things here are much the same. Frankly, I've been distracted by the situation in the Gulf, and the damage done and being done, and Nancy's nonsense just doesn't seem worthy of discussion at the moment. For all I know a big cloud of benzene is heading my way, and that's a far more frightening prospect thatn some peek-a-boo planetoid that A) couldn't exist as described anyway and B) has never been observed, nor have any effects of its gravitational presence ever been observed.

Any of you folks on or near the Gulf?
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Hi!

Just noticed this post of yours.

Glad you're better!


Re. Gulf ...

You might like to see this:
[link to www.youtube.com]

and

in this (I link to 2 versions) at 27-29 secs and 32 secs -- the back door of the room opens: CNN is showing a film on a wall instead of a live camera or normal feed!

[link to www.youtube.com] (grainy)
[link to www.cnn.com] (original, high quality) if it works)
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clunks back I see- with the usual `I'm right and everyone else is wrong' b.s.

I do find it fascinating that for someone who claims to be such a massive intelligence, that she so regularly and often fails to see that there are people here that do understand clearly things she herself has only a very vague and dim understanding of
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I think this sums up every single thinking persons opinion of you clunk...


and so back to the ning

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

I see again they are desperate to justify their planet (non)X existance by claiming every and any disaster anywhere in the world as proof positive it exists

Also it is actually worthwhile (in a macabre way) watching the ning- it has already begun to go into meltdown as did her previous blog, with the ranks closing up on one side or the other, and the disbeleivers of `the word' as brought to you by the starburst kid are having their ranks thinned quickly anytime they oppose any part of nancy's ravings

it's actually quite fascinating
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When is there enough evidence for you, idiot?
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What evidence? Evidence that Beamer and Wainio are okay? Nada -- newspapers, etc., are sufficient when there's fakery involved; and in an intelligence op situation the high likelihood of finding fakes should increase your willingness to assess fakery.

Anyway, in that case you need to hypothesize why a real family would have fake photos up. If they do, they are being set up or are fakes themselves, even if their name is Wainio or Beamer (to cover for a fake kid). These become real POSSIBILITIES.

Only a DA would be likely to settle it in EACH INSTANCE, but overall: 100 problematic photo sets or so, plus coding problems and memorial problems.

And no, Sept. Clues is not likely the fakes: they compiled on-going tracking of the videos all along, and updated their info as the media changed THEIR OWN versions: the media now have taken out a lot of the original video clips. Some are only preserved in the discussion from some years back, by Sept. Clues and others.

Yes, there can be fakes AMONG THE FAKERY TRACERS; but these are hotly debated and exposed. No-one has claimed these photos are not from memorial sites originally.


You've been mishandling Liz Wainio and you don't even know how to spell her name, brute. And tell me exactly how is her name a fake; how does her name prove that she couldn't have existed? What is it with your idiotic claim that some names prove they must be fakes?
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You are not a wholistic thinker, clearly. The issue is we have layers of fakery and evidence on how they did it ...

All layers have a different problem set; and this is in fact what you find, in SPADES (i.e., in large number!).

V- and Isr- and Jsuet-


Everything after the ":" was incomprehensible to me, but English is not my mother tongue so I don't know all its refinement.
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No problem. Vatican, Israel, Jesuit.

But the other thing is true. People do indeed search with word combinations stuff that they're after, with Google for example. And so you don't want people doing searches with those words being directed here, to your silly posts? Fine.

I find it odd, however, that you post your name and pics here for anyone's exploitation.
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Originally, I came on to Jim's show. Most people come on with real names. I was used to that and didn't think to have mine removed. I suppose I could have, but at the time I didn't think about that -- I knew a lot but was not careful (or paranoid) for myself, figuring anyone serious would have had my i.d. from the e-mails Jim and I exchanged for a long time before. Now I would be more careful, but the cat's out of the bag anyway.

Then Returner asked for the photos; that was not worth hiding because I am searchable to any spook already by my name's being up on Jim's site already; an implication of what someone here pointed out about the unwiseness of having used my name with Jim at all.

It shows familiarity with the totality of the groups, not with only one line of thinking.


What the fuck are you talking about here. Beats me.
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I was saying that mentioning one word or other would not be caught as important; it looks for combinations.

Clare, you are being abusive in so many ways. You must be some kind of a sadist. Do men actually like that trait in you? You do want these men here and everyone to LIKE you, don't you Clare, dear, honey, sweetheart?
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Whaaaaaa....t?

Astronut was proving you wrong with your "moving bridges", and you're the one who just don't get it but you insulted him instead. You don't do any research before you make your claims. You want all the others do the work for you. You like to enslave people, ms domina?
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Astronut proved nothing about the bridge.

As to the rest in this section ... ?!?!

:-/



I will handle the bridge issues another time. I am exhausted. Bye.
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Initial early-morning typo:

What evidence? Evidence that Beamer and Wainio are okay? Nada -- newspapers, etc., are sufficient when there's fakery involved;
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I meant to type: newspapers, etc., are INSUFFICIENT when there's fakery involved ... we need better proof of existence and it is not going to come from family claimants ALONE.

They could, in an intelligence op, be plants OR real.

Thus, they would need to be really checked out.

And if real, either that photo set was fine (some cases are less conclusive than Wainio and Beamer for fakery, but there are many which are as bad as their photos);

Or the real family is being framed.

If the latter -- think this through -- then why? Well, they could be disliked personally among the real victims. Or they could be used to distract ... from how many many other fake id names remain.
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clunks back I see- with the usual `I'm right and everyone else is wrong' b.s.

I do find it fascinating that for someone who claims to be such a massive intelligence, that she so regularly and often fails to see that there are people here that do understand clearly things she herself has only a very vague and dim understanding of
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No you don't -- on the issues I am talking of here: video/photo faking on 9/11.

And no, I am not right about everything; I know what is clear here and what is inconclusive and admit them as often as possible.

Unfortunately, the bridge is NOT okay. Nor is the photo set AS A WHOLE -- too many same-face people. Some may be okay, but most cannot be (as a probability).

Plus a few definite fake photos exist: Wainio is among them.

If she was real, her family's being set up to block investigation into the rest. This might in fact be the case, since the Mom Wainio is a vocal disser of Bush. But ... that could also be an intelligence cover. It COULD be. It would need to be checked out. If she's set up or for real. Because there are 5 same-faced EH Wainio photos. (5!!!!!!!!!! are shown on this page and one is the link someone here posted -- to which I don't have the page up on my browser anymore, so I don't have the exact link at hand -- of a fatter-faced Liz but same exact paste job of features. That makes 6.)


And by the way, as to if September Clues is the fake one:

note they LINK TO THEIR SOURCE, last year --- and though CNN may have changed most IDs as they did with the Colaios (to cover their asses, guys), at least it shows the honesty of September Clues people, who were not afraid of your checking them out. [link to septemberclues.info]

:)
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2nd, nobody handled the Colaios. They sent the CURRENT MEMORIALS ... which were not there in 2009. In 2009 there was ONE message each, from the same "Desiree" and it was from 2003.

One mention.
Back in 2003.

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Bullshit.

I proved the Colaios existed, too.

They have a street named after them in New York.

They have all kinds of comments on their memorial page.

How dense are you?
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clunks back I see- with the usual `I'm right and everyone else is wrong' b.s.

I do find it fascinating that for someone who claims to be such a massive intelligence, that she so regularly and often fails to see that there are people here that do understand clearly things she herself has only a very vague and dim understanding of
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One thing that is patently obvious is that she does NOT have ANY intelligence to speak of!

Time after time she proves herself utterly gullible, shockingly uneducated, and almost illiterate.

Typical troll!
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feedtroll feedtroll feedtroll feedtroll feedtroll feedtroll feedtroll feedtroll


Don't feed the Troll!!!!!!!!

I think this sums up every single thinking persons opinion of you clunk...


and so back to the ning

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

I see again they are desperate to justify their planet (non)X existance by claiming every and any disaster anywhere in the world as proof positive it exists

Also it is actually worthwhile (in a macabre way) watching the ning- it has already begun to go into meltdown as did her previous blog, with the ranks closing up on one side or the other, and the disbeleivers of `the word' as brought to you by the starburst kid are having their ranks thinned quickly anytime they oppose any part of nancy's ravings

it's actually quite fascinating
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It is fascinating to watch how Nancy's attempt at a cult has gone through all the typical cult-type machinations, with 'heretics' and former believers who eventually make a play for supremacy, or who break off into their own little cults when they cannot 'follow the leader' any more!

Hilarious bullshit!
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You should note this so you maybe will get the astronomical unlikeliness that Wainio's photos are okay even if she was a real victim. EVEN IF SHE WAS.

Why? The idea that you could just have been mistaken in seeing a problem in 1 or 2 photos is eliminated here.

Because there are 5 same-faced EH Wainio photos.

(5!!!!!!!!!! are shown on this page and one is the link someone here posted -- to which I don't have the page up on my browser anymore, so I don't have the exact link at hand -- of a fatter-faced Liz but same exact paste job of features. That makes 6.)

Yes, 1 or 2 photos might fool you into thinking fakery was at play when it is not. But EVEN IF SHE WAS A VICTIM TOO there is no explanation for the 6 photos other than fakery, for a REASONABLE PERSON.

You may not LIKE it, but it's true.

So,
If she WAS real, her family's being set up to block investigation into the rest.

This might in fact be the case, since the Mom Wainio is a vocal disser of Bush!

But ... the Mom's dissent could also be an intelligence cover. It COULD be. It would need to be checked out.

................


And by the way, as to your unfamiliar and unthought-through suggestion that September Clues is the fake one -- completely unreasonable, not because someone couldn't pose like that, but because all over their site they link to originals wherever possible and explain the process of their findings and suspicions .....

Here you go:
note they LINK TO THEIR SOURCE, last year --- and though CNN may have changed most IDs as they did with the Colaios (to cover their asses, guys), at least it shows the honesty of September Clues people, who were not afraid of your checking them out. [link to septemberclues.info]

They always do this -- though in the videos they don't show the time signatures for the video; but others have never complained they faked it, over the many years it's been up. Simon didn't have the time to time-stamp all the work after it was done; he had moved on to new work. It is a shame, but the original video has been archived ----- and it's a good thing, since the news archives have now removed most video of that day!

:)

Why?

They have a lot to hide.

They came up with NEW cuts, which were originally in other stations' days. Yes, all to cover for some of the embarrassments and sloppy mistakes.

No, Sept. Clues may be wrong or right, or both at times, but they're not the fakers.

Clare
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One thing that is patently obvious is that she does NOT have ANY intelligence to speak of!

Time after time she proves herself utterly gullible, shockingly uneducated, and almost illiterate.

Typical troll!
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This proves only your lacks.

Typical small mind -- or biased fear.
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One thing that is patently obvious is that she does NOT have ANY intelligence to speak of!

Time after time she proves herself utterly gullible, shockingly uneducated, and almost illiterate.

Typical troll!


This proves only your lacks.

Typical small mind -- or biased fear.
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You couldn't even write that correctly, you illiterate troll!

rockon
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By the way, if PX is here, the media have a weird way of "predicting" events to us:

[link to www.bangkokpost.com]

Or maybe a different panetary alignment or something else is setting them off on alarms?
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This proves only your lacks.

Typical small mind -- or biased fear.


You couldn't even write that correctly, you illiterate troll!

rockon
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No, I meant LACKS. Several of them. Chalk up one more. s226
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It's not worth it- everyone here (including I suspect clunk herself) knows that she is nothing more than a bullshit artist.

correcting her only give it more exposure and eggs her on to more and more grandiose claims in order to support her mammoth ego

If(and WHEN) she finally realises that everyone is actually laughing at her, not with her... then clunk, I would suggest calling your local suicide watch hotline.

I know it can hurt that you aren't half as smart as you wanted everyone else to think you are, but life WILL become a lot more satisfying when you can actually see that you a human with human flaws.

And when you give up on all these fantasies of saving the world from imaginary evil plots- you will find that exploring the real world can be a damn sight more satisfying than any made up bullshit could ever be

so come on out Clare, and find out that the real world isn't THAT scary after all...
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Yep, starve the troll. She is a pretty boring one anyways. Kinda like Freestore, Soledad and Max all rolled into one self important and stupefyingly ignorant package. You'd think that if she was as hot shit as she thinks, she would have been visited by the men in black by now. Or maybe the men in white coats with butterfly nets. ROFLMAO.
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I gave up actually reading any of her posts about 100 pages ago, it's always the same old word salad

Oh I'll flick a half eye over it in case some particularly stupid statement stands out, but that rarely happens anyway, so all in all clunk is a particularly disappointing troll of the `intelectulus pseudo smartus' breed
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What it comes down to with this brainwashed shill is that any source that contradicts her close minded opinions has to be approached with "deep philosophical doubt" but any ridiculous youtube video or Sorcha Faal wannabe that she agrees with is accepted at face value.

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