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hmmm

can I just say...

WTF????
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hmmm

can I just say...

WTF????
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(I think this is the point where everyone should look just near the posters name on the left- there is a button there- report abusive post...hit it)
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Done
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(
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From the ning:

Only SOME of the simulation of planetary positions has been loosened, per ZetaTalk, and tilting the globe for winter/summer is continuing as before. Being in the August position just means that Earth has been pushed back in her obit to this position, where she normally would be for August. You'd be having June weather even if she were in the October orbit position, for instance, because benign aliens would be tilting the globe to simulate that season/month.

ROFLMAO. How come the constellations I see are in the "June" position? How about those eclipses this month? Nancy will never give up! HAHA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 908953

But you see...Nancy thinks that constellations hidden from view by the sun can be made visible simply by tilting the Earth back and forth. Before we had the boycott on her threads, I posted the following link to an illustration I did:

[link to farm5.static.flickr.com]

I then asked her how tilting the Earth would make Orion visible during the winter months. Naturally, it was ignored and removed.
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All along we have been saying that this is a religion to most
of them - what few followers she has left. No matter how often she fails now they will continue to believe because of all the emotional investments they have made in believing her. I don't think this is a cult (other than a failed cult) but this is a belief system for many of them. They can't conceive of life without Zetatalk. I suspect that if (and I do not wish this) something were to happen to Nancy who isn't in the best of health and is in her latter years they might end up doing harm to themselves if they can't find a suitable replacement.
 Quoting: DrPostman

ZetaTalk is a variation of Scientology and her followers are like all the Hollywood celebrities that follow it...only her followers lack the money to make huge donations to help support her.
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I found it interesting that gerald made an appearence again after a long absence and set up the ning for her, and he seems to be taking a fairly major part in the zetabable threads as well, providing `answers' with nancy rarelt contradicting him (unlike most others that attempt to tread `her' turf...)

is he being `groomed' as the new zetababble spokesman???
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Possibly...he's just as stupid and ignorant. Not to mention WRONG.
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Another guy on the ning perfectly illustrates the ignorance of your average Zeta follower (or maybe he is a debunker setting a trap). According to the poster, last winter he could see Orion, but now he can't - proof that things are not normal Of course Nancy agrees that this is evidence of the coming pole shift and passage of planet x. Hilarious stuff!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 908953

Truly amazing. I saw Orion this winter just fine. In fact, I started watching it when it would be almost overhead at 5:30 in the morning when I was on my run. A few months later, it was overhead at 9:00 p.m. Now it's not visible at all and won't be again until the early morning hours in November.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...everyone seems to be in a fine fiddle today...
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i was around for the 2003 `end of the world' sorry white lie

there were people leaving their `crazy' families to go to safe spots, there is the well documented group that decided to build a bunker in a state forrest- containers, backhoes,dozers etc etc
funnily enough when they got busted destroying a national park as they are called over here- their excuse that they shouldnt be charged because `in may the world was going to end' didnt get them off

there was rumours of a suicide although I havent seen any personal evidence- I think that one of the other registered people here may know more about that than me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

I've been around since 2003 as well. There's a poster here on GLP who was so convinced that "Planet X" was real that he built a shelter on his property. When the "pole shift" failed to happen, he swallowed Nancy's "white lie" excuse. Meanwhile, his wife came to her senses and tried to get him to give up on it but he refused. So, she left him and took their daughter with her. Then, in the summer of 2007, he said he was so convinced that "Planet X" would show up by September of that year that he would commit suicide if it didn't. Well, there's still no sign of this "rogue planet" but he claims it's here and that's why he didn't commit suicide...which we were trying to talk him out of from the very beginning anyway. The fool even went on to claim that he filed a "police report" with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police telling them that if anything should happen to him he should investigate the "debunkers" that post on this forum. What an idiot. First of all, no police agency is going to take a report when no crime has been committed. Second, even if they did take him seriously, once they started to investigate, they'd find that the only threat of harm came from himself. They would see that every "debunker" here told him that killing himself because "Planet X" didn't show up is/was a bit drastic. All he had to do is simply admit he was wrong. Something he is STILL unable to do.
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i was around for the 2003 `end of the world' sorry white lie

there were people leaving their `crazy' families to go to safe spots, there is the well documented group that decided to build a bunker in a state forrest- containers, backhoes,dozers etc etc
funnily enough when they got busted destroying a national park as they are called over here- their excuse that they shouldnt be charged because `in may the world was going to end' didnt get them off

there was rumours of a suicide although I havent seen any personal evidence- I think that one of the other registered people here may know more about that than me

I've been around since 2003 as well. There's a poster here on GLP who was so convinced that "Planet X" was real that he built a shelter on his property. When the "pole shift" failed to happen, he swallowed Nancy's "white lie" excuse. Meanwhile, his wife came to her senses and tried to get him to give up on it but he refused. So, she left him and took their daughter with her. Then, in the summer of 2007, he said he was so convinced that "Planet X" would show up by September of that year that he would commit suicide if it didn't. Well, there's still no sign of this "rogue planet" but he claims it's here and that's why he didn't commit suicide...which we were trying to talk him out of from the very beginning anyway. The fool even went on to claim that he filed a "police report" with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police telling them that if anything should happen to him he should investigate the "debunkers" that post on this forum. What an idiot. First of all, no police agency is going to take a report when no crime has been committed. Second, even if they did take him seriously, once they started to investigate, they'd find that the only threat of harm came from himself. They would see that every "debunker" here told him that killing himself because "Planet X" didn't show up is/was a bit drastic. All he had to do is simply admit he was wrong. Something he is STILL unable to do.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

all i know if i did that all that and nothin' happen...my dearest would not be so ......dear....

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She also used to get invites to do radio shows, including Coast to Coast, but her last interview with Noory was a disaster. She doesn't do well in situations where she can't screen questions or when the host is impartial. George took a lot of flack from listeners for having her on. After this show, Nancy claimed here that she had been banned from C2C because of her stunning "accuracy track record" and the dark forces that conspire to silence her "message".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 908953

She used to bash Art Bell after he stopped having her on...and then suddenly talked highly of Coast to Coast when George invited her on. But, as you said, she's gone back to bashing it because they haven't had her back. There's an LA station that has her on every few months...but Nancy hasn't realized yet that they only reason they have her on is for the comedy.
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Another guy on the ning perfectly illustrates the ignorance of your average Zeta follower (or maybe he is a debunker setting a trap). According to the poster, last winter he could see Orion, but now he can't - proof that things are not normal Of course Nancy agrees that this is evidence of the coming pole shift and passage of planet x. Hilarious stuff!

Truly amazing. I saw Orion this winter just fine. In fact, I started watching it when it would be almost overhead at 5:30 in the morning when I was on my run. A few months later, it was overhead at 9:00 p.m. Now it's not visible at all and won't be again until the early morning hours in November.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

It surely is amazing. In order to notice things are not normal, you have to actually know what's normal. It's just like the tards that get anxious when the moon doesn't appear at the same time every night in the same place. They are sure the moon is varying wildly because it rises in a different place every night of the month. A quick google search would land them on a page with an easy explanation for this "anomaly", but instead, they wallow in ignorance and conclude that the pole shift will happen "soon" and Nancy must be right again. It's shocking that anyone can be this ignorant, but the ning is proof that you can get a high school diploma without paying attention in class.
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plus many of the `expenses' imho never happened- the tens of thousands on `ham radio gear and training'....

what they said they spent would have been a major (and noticeable) new station - if they actually did buy the gear, they have never used it...

(amatuer radio is a hobby of mine, which is why i sometimes have a sblack when its obvious (to me and any other radio enthusists) she doesnt have a clue about what she is talking about)

I dare say Astronut and the MIA (is he?) `other nasa paid shill' (i just wish I had access to his gear for a visit- maybe one day) have the same urges whenever nancy blunders into something they know about

a kinda `WTF- is she THIS dumb???- followed by much loud laughter, normally followed by demands from partners/neighbours/ people 20 miles away to shut the hell up- because you are laughing that loud....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

I'm licensed as well...and she certainly wouldn't need the amount of money she had earmarked for it. An Icom 718, a dipole, vertical antenna, amp and tuner is all she would have needed to have an effective station. All of that could have been had for less than $5000...maybe even less than $3000.
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It sure was nice to get back on topic today. I think there is still a troll in the room, but we can keep the discussion on track if we just ignore the pathetic attempts to get our attention. Scrolled past a bunch of trollspam. If I don't read it I can't take the bait.
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That's what I do. I just look at the usernames on the left side of the screen as I scroll through and skip by the posts made by those I don't care to read.
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I think our current hijacker probably is in a university, but rather than being a student, she is the subject of a psychology class. I never studied psychology, my majors were accounting and finance, but it seems to me there's a certain criteria by which you can follow a person's thoughts or actions and document the process of them becoming unglued. There must be certain steps and we have probably touched on each one with textbook accuracy.

I wish there was a psych major on board to follow this thread. I think the scientific descriptions of the specific mental characteristics and subsequent breakdowns which could be pointed out with quoted examples would be quite hilarious. This could be like psy101 class.

Some obvious terms come to mind:

delusional

an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder. (I don't like my boring life or where it's headed, lemme get some real
excitement going
)

waaaht



paranoia

a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.
• suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification : the global paranoia about hackers and viruses. (or Planet X, I might add)



y_scared




schizophrenia

a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation.
• (in general use) a mentality or approach characterized by inconsistent or contradictory elements
(like tilt vs ecliptic)


lala



mentally handicapped

(of a person) having very limited intellectual functions.
(and also unknown to the person with this disorder)




pick



mental cruelty

conduct that makes another person suffer but does not involve physical assault.
(like the last fifty pages)


gasp


affliction

something that causes pain or suffering


girl_happy_red
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I think our current hijacker probably is in a university, but rather than being a student, she is the subject of a psychology class. I never studied psychology, my majors were accounting and finance, but it seems to me there's a certain criteria by which you can follow a person's thoughts or actions and document the process of them becoming unglued. There must be certain steps and we have probably touched on each one with textbook accuracy.

I wish there was a psych major on board to follow this thread. I think the scientific descriptions of the specific mental characteristics and subsequent breakdowns which could be pointed out with quoted examples would be quite hilarious. This could be like psy101 class.

Some obvious terms come to mind:

delusional

an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder. (I don't like my boring life or where it's headed, lemme get some real
excitement going
)

waaaht



paranoia

a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.
• suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification : the global paranoia about hackers and viruses. (or Planet X, I might add)



y_scared




schizophrenia

a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation.
• (in general use) a mentality or approach characterized by inconsistent or contradictory elements
(like tilt vs ecliptic)


lala



mentally handicapped

(of a person) having very limited intellectual functions.
(and also unknown to the person with this disorder)




pick



mental cruelty

conduct that makes another person suffer but does not involve physical assault.
(like the last fifty pages)


gasp


affliction

something that causes pain or suffering


girl_happy_red
 Quoting: Catseye 986557

i was married one time to a gal who was bi-polar and shizo and it put new maeaning to the term "she's nuts".....
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It surely is amazing. In order to notice things are not normal, you have to actually know what's normal. It's just like the tards that get anxious when the moon doesn't appear at the same time every night in the same place. They are sure the moon is varying wildly because it rises in a different place every night of the month. A quick google search would land them on a page with an easy explanation for this "anomaly", but instead, they wallow in ignorance and conclude that the pole shift will happen "soon" and Nancy must be right again. It's shocking that anyone can be this ignorant, but the ning is proof that you can get a high school diploma without paying attention in class.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 908953

I think the problem is that Nancy has them convinced anything they read on the Internet or elsewhere that contradicts what she says has been put in place by the government as part of their huge cover up program.

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Waves hi to Circuit Breaker, a proud owner of a Kenwood ts180s for the low bands and a tr9130 for 2m work here
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Hey George,

does your Tricey ever get tired?

ROTFL

Sometimes it tires me out just scrolling by it and reading ...

it just keeps galumping along!

:)
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It just keeps running and running.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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Currently, I'm not very active because we haven't been able to get into a house since moving to Colorado Springs a year ago. We moved here for my wife's job as a SQL Database Administrator. Originally, the plan was for me to become a dispatcher for the sheriff's office here since that's what I was doing when we lived in Tampa. But, the economy being what it is, the agencies here aren't hiring very often. I'd also been feeling kind of burned out on it...working weekends and holidays all the time. So I also decided to go to school again. I already have an AA in Electronics Technology but I haven't used it for a very long time so I felt I needed to do something different but, at the same time, might kind of build upon it. I'm now about four months away from completing my AA in Network Systems Admin (minor) with a major in Network Communications Management (BSc). But, because I don't yet have the BSc, I haven't had much luck finding a real job. I decided not to pursue a job as a dispatcher since I'm almost done with the AA because I felt it would be a waste of time (both mine and theirs) since I would leave as soon as I found something in IT. I'm currently working for Hewlett Packard as a contractor. I'd rather be a permanent employee but, unfortunately, about 80% of the people that work at this facility are contractors. I set up SAN (Storage Area Network) arrays...install servers (Command View, Windows Server 2003 and 2008, Red Hat, HP UX (HP's version of UNIX), set up network switches with VLANs and cable it all together.

Anyway, I had an Icom 746 that I sold when we moved here. I have a Yaesu FT-100D that I'm going to put in my truck. I currently have an Icom IC-2820 out there now with the D-Star module and I have an Icom IC-92AD.

Once we get in to a house, I want to get a Flex 5000 SDR.
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I am not on air much myself since moving from my house (owned) to a rental flat
for obvious reasons putting an anntenna system up is difficult in a block of flats, but I now have the ability to get on air

The communal clothesline out the back had a couple of broken wires (about 80 ft long running along all the flats) so I helpfully restrung the broken wires, but shock horror- all I could find was nylon covered steel wire at the local hardware store (after ordering it in LOL)

hmmm look at that- a insulated 80 ft long wire, what on earth could I have been thinking....
;-)
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I think the most fascinating evolution in Nancy is her aversion to things religious . . . maybe some garlic, a silver cross, or some direct sunlight may finally do her in.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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And of course it was my suspision that it must have been sharp edges in the steel support poles that cut through the original wires, so I made sure that wouldnt happen again by drilling the holes out a bit larger and fitting inslating sleeves to prevent it happening again....

(of course I can only operate when I can run the coax out the laundry door and couple it up to that bare spot I accidently left on the end nearest me (hey the knife slipped when I was cutting it OK??) and that steel pole burried in the ground about 3 ft deep- will it woul be an acceptable earth stake for someone requiring such a thing....)

whistles innocently

antenna.. what antenna???
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Accident happen, proph. What can you do? cool2
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There are no missing posts in this thread. All the posts are still there, except for the spam recently removed.

I doubt that Clare has looked at the link Astronut gave her. Even more I doubt that she's actually used it. And I doubt that she even glanced at the page that was given to her.

It's an interesting page. Page 642. Well worth re-reading.
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hmmm

can I just say...

WTF????
points above...


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624


Exactly, WTF????
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.


What is abusive, but you?

THOSE ARE THE FACTS, the total evidence.
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I think the most fascinating evolution in Nancy is her aversion to things religious . . . maybe some garlic, a silver cross, or some direct sunlight may finally do her in.
 Quoting: George B



I get the feeling Nancy was tired of people caught in this or that religious impression about our universe. I mean, expalining the symbol here or there from one or another religion isn't the point of spirituality. The main points for her Webite is Planet X and soul development -- religion is a distraction in that mix. Religion is a means for soul development until you get stuck in one or another.
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There are no missing posts in this thread. All the posts are still there, except for the spam recently removed.

I doubt that Clare has looked at the link Astronut gave her. Even more I doubt that she's actually used it. And I doubt that she even glanced at the page that was given to her.

It's an interesting page. Page 642. Well worth re-reading.
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Do you mean the program?? Ye of little faith.

I am working on so much that I hadn't gotten to it; I will.
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(
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Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
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Excuse me, Clare, but do you know what the facts were in the deleted post?

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