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mclarek
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(
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Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
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Excuse me, Clare, but do you know what the facts were in the deleted post?
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There are no missing posts in this thread. All the posts are still there, except for the spam recently removed.

I doubt that Clare has looked at the link Astronut gave her. Even more I doubt that she's actually used it. And I doubt that she even glanced at the page that was given to her.

It's an interesting page. Page 642. Well worth re-reading.



Do you mean the program?? Ye of little faith.

I am working on so much that I hadn't gotten to it; I will.
 Quoting: mclarek 1004307

Yes I mean the program and I mean all the posts that you missed or claimed to have.

Your promises mean nothing, only your actions might mean something.
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06/19/2010 02:45 PM
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ignore the troll(as usual clunk opens her mouth and inserts foot firmly..)

and the `missing post' was a particularly nasty one that was thankfully remove quite quickly by the mods (it regarded the stuff that bring the cops around and landing you in jail if found on your computer- pictures of the too young if you get my drift)
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I am betting now that clunk wishes she could edit her posts away...


PMSL
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From the ning:

Only SOME of the simulation of planetary positions has been loosened, per ZetaTalk, and tilting the globe for winter/summer is continuing as before. Being in the August position just means that Earth has been pushed back in her obit to this position, where she normally would be for August. You'd be having June weather even if she were in the October orbit position, for instance, because benign aliens would be tilting the globe to simulate that season/month.

ROFLMAO. How come the constellations I see are in the "June" position? How about those eclipses this month? Nancy will never give up! HAHA

But you see...Nancy thinks that constellations hidden from view by the sun can be made visible simply by tilting the Earth back and forth. Before we had the boycott on her threads, I posted the following link to an illustration I did:

[link to farm5.static.flickr.com]

I then asked her how tilting the Earth would make Orion visible during the winter months. Naturally, it was ignored and removed.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



You are right but your idea is not completely worked out about the constellations and what the ecliptic is.

I have clarifed to Menow what the problems are:

a) Yes, the constellations are above the horizon MERELY BECAUSE OF TILT progressing over the year in relation to the Sun. Under ordinary circumstances, the Sun is in the constellation to which our tilt makes the sky rise the MOST at whatever month. The Sun rises (or doesn't, at some latitudes and times of year) with the constellation it's in front of. This is due to tilt.

b) But if we were stopped, the Sun would be in front of one constellation the whole time. This means tilting the Earth WOULD raise and lower all constellations (and some would not show in winter at certain latitudes), but whatever constellation was BEHIND THE SUN IN THE STOPPAGE VIEW, would always be eclipsed by the Sun, though it, with the Sun, would rise up in its turn as the tilt allowed.

IF YOU CHANGE THE TILT YOU GET A DIFFERENT ECLIPTIC. The ecliptic is the viewpoint we have on the constellations by the Sun.

The constellations it passes behind are the same but the positions we would see it at would be different. -- The Sun's pass over significant stars in constellations of seasons -- are only due to tilt. In winter or summer we see less of or more of those stars and the Sun with them.
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ignore the troll(as usual clunk opens her mouth and inserts foot firmly..)

and the `missing post' was a particularly nasty one that was thankfully remove quite quickly by the mods (it regarded the stuff that bring the cops around and landing you in jail if found on your computer- pictures of the too young if you get my drift)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624



I have seen that it wasn't mine; in this case I assumed with your venom that it was. I have checked and it wasn't.

Bully quick off the mark.

Not that you've never poot your fut in your mouth either, dwork.
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I am betting now that clunk wishes she could edit her posts away...


PMSL
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.

Excuse me, Clare, but do you know what the facts were in the deleted post?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001905



I now do. See post above. I have checked and mine are there.

Have you ABSORBED those points in my post? Do you GET the fact we have much more to 9/11 evidence than you or your "debunkers" understand or present?

Thought not. Good luck with it. There's a lot you don't know yet about it, if you could be fooled by ad hominems and misrepresentations and incomplete claims about the work, in your debunker vids. You haven't worked through the claims yourself fully; it took me a long time.

Yep -- to get most of it straight (it's a developing case), but now I can say with confidence the subject matter is solid in gist; and therefore there are misrepresentations in debunkers. I wish it were the other way around, but it's not.

And I had the patience to get to know about much of the work by those troubled personalities in your ad hominem vid --

THE WORK COUNTS, not the personality.
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glad to see clunk is up to her usual (low) standards....

if I was her (god forbid the thought) it would be right about now I would slink away in shame and try to hide for a few days until people had maybe forgotten about it

I doubt our resident troll has the intelligence to do that tho

(I now that I said I wouldnt engage it anymore- but man did she ever put her foot in it this time- then promptly proceed to make matters worse by inserting said foot firmly in mouth....)

PMSL here IRL
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624



I have corrected my assumption. You have not.

I assumed you wanted gone the 9/11 issue post about the NYC 50+ round holes clean through the tops of buildings with almost no debris and gashes, melted cars with no singeing, 1/2 the required debris left, etc.

It would be typical of you to rail against the facts. Instead, I can see it's still there and change to say, oops, I assumed FROM YOUR MANNER, AND RIGHT BELOW MY POST!! that you were baiting as usual: a good assumption because again and again such comments issue from your fingers.

I have corrected the position.

Have you?
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.

Excuse me, Clare, but do you know what the facts were in the deleted post?



I now do. See post above. I have checked and mine are there.
 Quoting: mclarek 1004307

So tell me the facts of the deleted post, will you. What was in that post exactly?
mclarek
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glad to see clunk is up to her usual (low) standards....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624



I have high standards and mess up briefly and unimportantly.


YOU are constantly dumb.


When I mess up it's in a brief moment of carelessly firing off a snide remark as you do -- only I rarely do it and so rarely make such stupid assumptions and show such blindness as you. Whe I do, it's an unimportant thing like: I could have clicked refresh one page back and would have seen my posts.

Whatever. You miss the forest of beauty and truth for the tree of mistake.
mclarek
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So tell me the facts of the deleted post, will you. What was in that post exactly?
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No, someone said above that it was some kind of porn or something.

YOU can't read! YOU are blind.

HEY, OZ, PICK ON FIN!

Ha ha ha.

Get to the important stuff, idiots.
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.

Excuse me, Clare, but do you know what the facts were in the deleted post?



I now do. See post above. I have checked and mine are there.

So tell me the facts of the deleted post, will you. What was in that post exactly?
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I liked it so much I am going to use it as a signature from now on, on each and every post- just to remind us all of how clunk got so upset about having a spamming illegal post deleted

so clunk just for you- this is going to appear at the bottom of every post I make from now on
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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
 Quoting: mclarek 1004307


clunk jumps the gun and assumes things PMSL
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mclarek
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It sure was nice to get back on topic today. I think there is still a troll in the room, but we can keep the discussion on track if we just ignore the pathetic attempts to get our attention. Scrolled past a bunch of trollspam. If I don't read it I can't take the bait.

That's what I do. I just look at the usernames on the left side of the screen as I scroll through and skip by the posts made by those I don't care to read.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



You're missing LEARNING.
mclarek
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I think our current hijacker probably is in a university, but rather than being a student, she is the subject of a psychology class.
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Try that I'm WELL INFORMED on the issue of the planes, etc.

Try the real, putative hijackers:

HANI HANJOUR couldn't fly, according to his flight instructor.

Start there.

Whole new world for you!
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So tell me the facts of the deleted post, will you. What was in that post exactly?


No, someone said above that it was some kind of porn or something.
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And you believe that someone because he or she said so? You are too gullible.

YOU can't read! YOU are blind.

HEY, OZ, PICK ON FIN!

Ha ha ha.

Get to the important stuff, idiots.
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You're the BULLY here, Clare!
mclarek
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i was married one time to a gal who was bi-polar and shizo and it put new maeaning to the term "she's nuts".....
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I'm sure it did; but it has nothing to do with me.

I'm just well informed on the issues and these guys can't handle the fact they have not debunked anything with their posts.

I make mistakes -- on unimportant or side-issue mistakes, not the main points. That scares them into ranting how I'm stupid or whatever.

Good day.
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to get back on track
Well, I mean it Poli.
Read zetatalk. Compare the size of the moons with the size of PX.
PX is 4-5 times the size of earth, there are moons of the size of earth.
greetings to Lisa and Ausha
Lothar
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so we apparently have not just a big planet bumping around in the inner solar system, but `several' earth sized moons as well

and we havent noticed the gravitational effects of all this???

PMSL


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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
 Quoting: mclarek 1004307


clunk jumps the gun and assumes things PMSL
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mclarek
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Of course, too, Piscesnator,

I didn't mean (see above) that they debunk nothing. I meant on the issues (sub and supra issues) which I was involved in talking of with them.
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ignore it finland- dont reply to it, dont engage it in any manner, just wander over to the ning , pick up a new `F.I.M.' moment from them and bring it back here to amuse us all

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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
 Quoting: mclarek 1004307


clunk jumps the gun and assumes things PMSL
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clunk jumps the gun and assumes things PMSL
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So?

You guys assume things ALL the time and don't correct it!

BIG things, like that there were planes and passengers; that the buildings came down without demolecularization weaponry of some kind as well; that the ecliptic's position has nothing to do with the tilt; that NASA can't lie big-time; ......

Oh the list goes on.

AND you think you've debunked items when you have merely splatted good contrary evidence that is insufficient against the key points. In other words, under cross-examination and by the rules of totality of evidence, your debunker sites fail (re. 9/11 fakery).


What's important? That because of your CRAPPY attitude to me and the proximity to my posts, I didn't notice that the comments about the rogue post weren't about me?

OR

That you have closed minds?

Errrr.
The latter! :)
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There are no missing posts in this thread. All the posts are still there, except for the spam recently removed.

Just did a scan of the Hidden Replies page and the Spam Replies
page and I don't see anything removed from this thread other
than spam for "Preteen lolita models" and a few of those
multi-site spams removed by the bot. There were quite a few
of the latter but I don't think you guys even see those before
the bot gets 'em.
 Quoting: DrPostman



that was the removed one that was above mine that was quickly removed that my post was refering to...

funnily enough despite a certain trolls claims- it's post wasnt above that post either- it in fact was way back (which is which where it belongs) but used it as a platform to launch an unwarranted attack (ASSuming that `everything' is about IT)

and you know the old saying about making assumptions.....



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glad to see THAT post gone- uggg... :-(

Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
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clunk jumps the gun and assumes things PMSL
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mclarek
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06/19/2010 03:29 PM
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And you believe that someone because he or she said so? You are too gullible.



You're the BULLY here, Clare!
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Oh bullshit.

Whatever it was it wasn't about me and was some abusive thing. Get a grip. Focus on the important things.

And bullshit about my being a bully. I am on the defensive against bullies only and that is why I lash out.

YOU however are being defensive about IMPORTANT FACTS you are ignoring.

And you end up representing incompletes and nonsense as truths and DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT WHEN I SHOW YOU HOW you are falling for it ...

You have an extreme confirmation bias about 9/11.

Sure, at first it's scary to think it was a sloppy job like JFK's death, with a lot of fakery ... but it was.



Start with:

Hani Hanjour couldn't fly, according to his flight instructor.
mclarek
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and you know the old saying about making assumptions.....



:-)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624


I assumed briefly, because of your treatment of me.

And corrected it.

You have not corrected your assumptions. LEARN SOMETHING.



If you change the tilt you get a different ecliptic position(same constellations with the Sun in them but a different ecliptic position).

And Hani Hanjour couldn't fly, according to his flight instructor.

Start there and then you'll see you were previously the clunk. But it's okay because we've all been there: blind and refusing to know.
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I think the most fascinating evolution in Nancy is her aversion to things religious . . . maybe some garlic, a silver cross, or some direct sunlight may finally do her in.

She is one of the least spiritual people I have come across
on the internet. That's especially ironic giving her constant
preaching of "service to others". I want to know who she has "served" lately? What acts of unselfish support has her or her followers done even lately?

 Quoting: DrPostman


Her other aversion/s is/are away from anything Republican (conservative/traditional) toward anything Democrat (liberal/progressive), Obama, etc. He is a STO you know!

Last Edited by George B on 06/19/2010 03:36 PM
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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BTW guys, since TLR is not available for the time being and
now that I'm a senior mod I can change the title. At least
remove the May 15 part. I thought I would replace it with
"continuous". Any suggestions?
 Quoting: DrPostman



Just because I am a bit petty at times
how about...

`The Lone Rangers Debunker Talk LIVE - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!!'


He was harrassed from this site , it would be my kind of revenge to have that popping up on the front page all the time LOL

maybe even

`THE LONE RANGERS Debunker Talk LIVE - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!!'


That I like....

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Can't face facts!

Idiot!

How scientific are you? NOT. Uggg.
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clunk jumps the gun and assumes things PMSL
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I think the most fascinating evolution in Nancy is her aversion to things religious . . . maybe some garlic, a silver cross, or some direct sunlight may finally do her in.



I get the feeling Nancy was tired of people caught in this or that religious impression about our universe. I mean, expalining the symbol here or there from one or another religion isn't the point of spirituality. The main points for her Webite is Planet X and soul development -- religion is a distraction in that mix. Religion is a means for soul development until you get stuck in one or another.
 Quoting: mclarek 1004307

I think Nancy is getting overly antagonistic toward anything she doesn't agree with or appreciate . . . she is building a little cocoon for herself surrounded by her followers and filters out almost everything else. She has gone from a tried older lady to an almost paranoid personality who is hoping and wishing for the end to come as quickly as possible. Where is a good earthquake, sinkhole, bridge collapse, plane accident, snowstorm in July when you need one. Her biggest FAIL . . . no prediction of the GULF OIL SPILL. Man she could have made huge points with a ZETA FLASH a week before the platform collapse.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B

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