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Wow. Is she really gone?


Damn, I sure hope so! What an idiot!
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Perfect example of someone with some education and some intellect, but NO ability to apply it in a functional way.
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If we were stopped TILT would allow progression of horizon constellations.




Except, of course, that the North Star wouldn't be the North Star any longer.

Sorry, sorry. Feel free to carry on.



Yes.

NOTHING would be right really, but one thing or another could be corrected for
-- either the Sun (but not the constellations or pole star), or the contstellations (but not the Sun and pole star), etc.

And the planets would be all messed up.


But hey ... SOMEBODY GETS THE IDEA!

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!





You get a flower:


Now I'm outta here.


Somebody got something! (Besides Astronut HALF
getting the point about parallax on some 9/11 vids -- where he got it but did an unscientific experiment: not the correct proportions to measure the effects necessary ------ and didn't understand you CAN derive viewpoint from moving images. But you need to check each layer's movement, independently and then combinatively, or you will never find the viewpoints, if it's a wrongly composite image.)

I'm no dummy. So many here have just been so ... oh never mind. Waste of time.


All you people who've talked as such and been picayune and idiotic can now go to the dogs or wake up.


So, except for later coming back maybe to bring up SOHO again, I'm outta here. It's been vivid but wasteful. At least someone got something. Now let's work on more people ...


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Well, I apologize, gents and ladies. If I had known such an answer of mine would drive Clare away from this thread, I would have replied some time ago...
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As I suspected, the solstice was marked at Stonehenge once again, as it has been for thousands of years. This would not be possible if the earth was stalled or even slightly off where it should be.

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

I suspect the events also happened in Xochicalco and Dzibilchaltun in Mexico and other places that mark the solstice.
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Yes the sun rose...
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So, except for later coming back maybe to bring up SOHO again, I'm outta here. It's been vivid but wasteful. At least someone got something. Now let's work on more people ...
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So the one who 'doesn't flounce', finally has.
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Vote here for newest Poll- - > Thread: Newest Chemtrail Poll (NOW): Choose the (best) reason for Chemtrails? . . . see results as they happen! . . . see results of last poll!!!


Newest Chemtrail Poll (NOW): Choose the (best) reason for Chemtrails? . . . see results as they happen! . . . see results of last poll!!!

Choose (best) reason for Chemtrail concept?
1. Weather wars (undeclared) . . .
2. Military operations, experiments . . .
3. Global climate modification . . .
4. High efficiency Jet engines' use increase . . .
5. Regional weather modification (i.e. cloud seeding) . . .
6. TPTB - Population control/reduction, conceal astronomic changes . . .



This is to prepare for the Debate/Trial on Chemtrails in July 2010.

As of 21 Jun 2010 Results:
Vote here for last poll----> Thread: Chemtrail Poll . . . do you think chemtrails are real? See the Results NOW!

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As of 21 Jun 2010 Results:

Chemtrails - Yes

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George, did you really expect any other result when that
question is asked on a conspiracy web board?
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Well . . . yes . . . I did. I thought there was a healthy number of debunkers out there as well. However, I think there are more reasons for this than the fact this is a conspiracy web.
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George, did you really expect any other result when that
question is asked on a conspiracy web board?

Well . . . yes . . . I did. I thought there was a healthy number of debunkers out there as well. However, I think there are more reasons for this than the fact this is a conspiracy web.
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I didn't bother to vote, fwiw.
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George, did you really expect any other result when that
question is asked on a conspiracy web board?

Well . . . yes . . . I did. I thought there was a healthy number of debunkers out there as well. However, I think there are more reasons for this than the fact this is a conspiracy web.


I didn't bother to vote, fwiw.
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fwiw? . . . I don't know what this means, sorry!
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George, did you really expect any other result when that
question is asked on a conspiracy web board?

Well . . . yes . . . I did. I thought there was a healthy number of debunkers out there as well. However, I think there are more reasons for this than the fact this is a conspiracy web.


I didn't bother to vote, fwiw.

fwiw? . . . I don't know what this means, sorry!
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I didn't either for what it's worth
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Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . .

just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt????



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Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . .

just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt????



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We rethink our reality . . .
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I didn't vote either. I religiously scroll past chemtrail threads.
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It going to be one of many quittenings. She'll be back.
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If not as clunk, as someone else. I notice Freestore hasn't been around much lately. Is he being boycotted too, or did he invent some new sockpuppets to play with?
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since you are so worried about a Wainio reaction


So says the "expressive and caring" Canuck telephone solicitor.
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TELEPHONE SOLICITOR??? Tell us more!
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Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . .

just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt????



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We rethink our reality . . .
 Quoting: George B


Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent.
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Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . .

just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt????



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We rethink our reality . . .


Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent.
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What proofs are you talking about? If you are talking about the Chemtrails . . . I have not even begun the process.
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I didn't vote either. I religiously scroll past chemtrail threads.
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Yes, chemtrail threads are just exhausting.
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I didn't vote either. I religiously scroll past chemtrail threads.


Yes, chemtrail threads are just exhausting.
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Yes, I guess we all 'get-up-in-the-air' about things like this!

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Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . .

just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt????



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We rethink our reality . . .


Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent.

What proofs are you talking about? If you are talking about the Chemtrails . . . I have not even begun the process.
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Which you will never complete because all that is required to retire the question is an in situ sample that contains your mythical chemicals.

But actually doing science will just ruin the conspiracy game, no?
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Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . .

just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt????



1dunno1

We rethink our reality . . .
 Quoting: George B



Well, I ponder reality constantly, always have. And just knowing that certain people are more evil than I previously thought possible isn't really going to change my basic thoughts about what reality is.

I thought we could at least fire Obama for some of the bullshit he's been pulling, but now it looks like he's going to "amnestize" a bunch of votes and keep himself in the Black House for a second term.

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Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . .

just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt????



1dunno1

We rethink our reality . . .


Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent.

What proofs are you talking about? If you are talking about the Chemtrails . . . I have not even begun the process.



Which you will never complete because all that is required to retire the question is an in situ sample that contains your mythical chemicals.

But actually doing science will just ruin the conspiracy game, no?
 Quoting: The Commentator

It has been done over and over again . . . including the required Remote Temperature Soundings required for proper analysis. See below:


To interpret what these measurements mean, it is often necessary to know the temperature not just at the aircraft altitude -- where the chemical measurements are made -- but above and below the aircraft as well. The reason for this is that the vertical temperature profile provides meteorological context for the in situ measurements. For example, it is important to know whether the aircraft is in the troposphere (the lowest part of the atmosphere) or in the stratosphere (the next highest region). Ozone (O3) normally has much higher abundances in the stratosphere than the troposphere because it is produced there. Similarly, carbon monoxide (CO) has much higher abundances in the troposphere than in the stratosphere, because that's where it's produced. If high O3 and low CO are seen, one might conclude that the aircraft is in the stratosphere. However, this condition can occur occasionly in the troposphere, and the only way to know for sure what the real situation is is to measure where the thermal tropopause is located, as this separates the troposphere from the stratosphere. To do this this we need to measure an altitude temperature profile.
[link to mtp.jpl.nasa.gov]

The point is it is a shell game . . . many of the persistent contrails morph into cirrus clouds as do the Chemtrials. Finding the needle in the haystack is not likely with the resources available to the Chemtrail Advocates. The authorities have the upper hand in this game . . . Advocate's evidence will come from multiple authoritative sources.

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Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . .

just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt????



1dunno1

We rethink our reality . . .


Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent.

What proofs are you talking about? If you are talking about the Chemtrails . . . I have not even begun the process.



Which you will never complete because all that is required to retire the question is an in situ sample that contains your mythical chemicals.

But actually doing science will just ruin the conspiracy game, no?

It has been done over and over again . . . including the required Remote Temperature Soundings required for proper analysis. See below:


To interpret what these measurements mean, it is often necessary to know the temperature not just at the aircraft altitude -- where the chemical measurements are made -- but above and below the aircraft as well. The reason for this is that the vertical temperature profile provides meteorological context for the in situ measurements. For example, it is important to know whether the aircraft is in the troposphere (the lowest part of the atmosphere) or in the stratosphere (the next highest region). Ozone (O3) normally has much higher abundances in the stratosphere than the troposphere because it is produced there. Similarly, carbon monoxide (CO) has much higher abundances in the troposphere than in the stratosphere, because that's where it's produced. If high O3 and low CO are seen, one might conclude that the aircraft is in the stratosphere. However, this condition can occur occasionly in the troposphere, and the only way to know for sure what the real situation is is to measure where the thermal tropopause is located, as this separates the troposphere from the stratosphere. To do this this we need to measure an altitude temperature profile.
[link to mtp.jpl.nasa.gov]

The point is it is a shell game . . . many of the persistent contrails morph into cirrus clouds as do the Chemtrials. Finding the needle in the haystack is not likely with the resources available to the Chemtrail Advocates. The authorities have the upper hand in this game . . . Advocate's evidence will come from multiple authoritative sources.
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If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look.
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If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look.
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You might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look.

You might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July.
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Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass.

Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable.
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If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look.

You might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July.



Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass.

Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable.
 Quoting: The Commentator

How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere.
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If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look.

You might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July.



Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass.

Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable.

How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere.
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Research performed by whom? Some chemtard that flunked high school chemistry?

Unless and until you have in situ samples you are just flapping your gums.
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If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look.

You might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July.



Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass.

Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable.

How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere.



Research performed by whom? Some chemtard that flunked high school chemistry?

Unless and until you have in situ samples you are just flapping your gums.
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This is just a tease . . . I am not revealing my source or the rest of the research until the July Debate . . .

ChemTrail Bar Gr
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If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look.

You might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July.



Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass.

Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable.

How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere.



Research performed by whom? Some chemtard that flunked high school chemistry?

Unless and until you have in situ samples you are just flapping your gums.

This is just a tease . . . I am not revealing my source or the rest of the research until the July Debate . . .


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It is only a tease if you know nothing about the presentation of data, if you do you find your picture is utterly worthless.
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I hope you have better examples than those at Arizona Skywatch and other such "chemtrail" sites.

Here are some common errors made on those sites...

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