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Whatcha gonna do when all the posters have gone elsewhere, just like you wished, oh you bunch of "debunkers"? What's gonna happen to your glorious thread, then?
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It will go on just as it has.
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The Zeta shit will be wrong until Nancy dies.

You obviously haven't read it with an open mind.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You still haven't read it with any mind
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Poleshift ning vs earthchanges ning. Dingding


So Cherly left the ningtards and started her own ningtard gang with the group that does nothing but gossip among themselves. Way to be STS cheryle show them bad boys how to do it right! Supposedly this little jewel was written by Nancy Leider herself about why Cherly ran away..

"Yes I can tell you. She left in a huff because she could not run Gerard's ning as she had ambitions to do, was angry when there were differences of opinion on how Gerard's ning should be run and she did not accept his decisions.

She was also increasingly jealous of the attention and membership my presence attracted, from private email to Gerard which I am not at liberty to share. There is angry email floating about from a fan of Cheryl's that claim I was jealous of her, but looking at my outreach (TV and radio appearances, international fame and translations done, etc) who would believe that? The more ZetaTalk fans arrived at Gerard's ning, the greener Cheryl became.

There are also claims by a fan of Cheryl's, floating about on email, that she is concerned about the public, their education, above all. I would point out that when she left she deleted ALL her blogs, as this was her decision. This included the very popular S America Roll blog that had over 100 pages of comments from perhaps 100 individuals, observations and research, all lost. She also deleted something she was so proud of, having bragged about it openly just within this past month, her 500th blog on Earth changes. All this is gone, because she is supposedly interested in educating the public.

Then there is the fact that on her new ning she demands that the public join before reading! This is not to educate the public, as Gerard's ning has always been, but to pump her membership numbers up, solely. Why else restrict the public from the information?"

ShaZAM!
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Poleshift ning vs earthchanges ning. Dingding


So Cherly left the ningtards and started her own ningtard gang with the group that does nothing but gossip among themselves. Way to be STS cheryle show them bad boys how to do it right! Supposedly this little jewel was written by Nancy Leider herself about why Cherly ran away..

"Yes I can tell you. She left in a huff because she could not run Gerard's ning as she had ambitions to do, was angry when there were differences of opinion on how Gerard's ning should be run and she did not accept his decisions.

She was also increasingly jealous of the attention and membership my presence attracted, from private email to Gerard which I am not at liberty to share. There is angry email floating about from a fan of Cheryl's that claim I was jealous of her, but looking at my outreach (TV and radio appearances, international fame and translations done, etc) who would believe that? The more ZetaTalk fans arrived at Gerard's ning, the greener Cheryl became.

There are also claims by a fan of Cheryl's, floating about on email, that she is concerned about the public, their education, above all. I would point out that when she left she deleted ALL her blogs, as this was her decision. This included the very popular S America Roll blog that had over 100 pages of comments from perhaps 100 individuals, observations and research, all lost. She also deleted something she was so proud of, having bragged about it openly just within this past month, her 500th blog on Earth changes. All this is gone, because she is supposedly interested in educating the public.

Then there is the fact that on her new ning she demands that the public join before reading! This is not to educate the public, as Gerard's ning has always been, but to pump her membership numbers up, solely. Why else restrict the public from the information?"

ShaZAM!
 Quoting: NingTards 279244


Wow -- another irony meter explosion. They should put warnings on those things.
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For the ningnuts who don't know what a FTS image is:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]
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I think we ought to treat george the same way we treat maxibridget, luser or clunk: Ignore him completely.


Whatcha gonna do when all the posters have gone elsewhere, just like you wished, oh you bunch of "debunkers"? What's gonna happen to your glorious thread, then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001905



The thread will exist and thrive as long as it needs to exist and thrive.

Also, the supply of the gullible ignorant is damned near endless.
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Poleshift ning vs earthchanges ning. Dingding


So Cherly left the ningtards and started her own ningtard gang with the group that does nothing but gossip among themselves. Way to be STS cheryle show them bad boys how to do it right! Supposedly this little jewel was written by Nancy Leider herself about why Cherly ran away..

"Yes I can tell you. She left in a huff because she could not run Gerard's ning as she had ambitions to do, was angry when there were differences of opinion on how Gerard's ning should be run and she did not accept his decisions.

She was also increasingly jealous of the attention and membership my presence attracted, from private email to Gerard which I am not at liberty to share. There is angry email floating about from a fan of Cheryl's that claim I was jealous of her, but looking at my outreach (TV and radio appearances, international fame and translations done, etc) who would believe that? The more ZetaTalk fans arrived at Gerard's ning, the greener Cheryl became.

There are also claims by a fan of Cheryl's, floating about on email, that she is concerned about the public, their education, above all. I would point out that when she left she deleted ALL her blogs, as this was her decision. This included the very popular S America Roll blog that had over 100 pages of comments from perhaps 100 individuals, observations and research, all lost. She also deleted something she was so proud of, having bragged about it openly just within this past month, her 500th blog on Earth changes. All this is gone, because she is supposedly interested in educating the public.

Then there is the fact that on her new ning she demands that the public join before reading! This is not to educate the public, as Gerard's ning has always been, but to pump her membership numbers up, solely. Why else restrict the public from the information?"

ShaZAM!
 Quoting: NingTards 279244



That woman needs SERIOUS professional help....
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"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

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Poleshift ning vs earthchanges ning. Dingding


So Cherly left the ningtards and started her own ningtard gang with the group that does nothing but gossip among themselves. .............
 Quoting: NingTards 279244


What ... the seperation already ?? ... is there a link to this onging development ? I have been out of the loop for a while.
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Thanks for the Cheryl update. Geez, she was one of Nancy's biggest fans. I guess she got too popular for Nancy's comfort. Talk about pettiness and control issues. It was to be expected though.
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The posters seem to feel their observations are real . . . I don't see how they can validate them . . .

They feel their observations are real, which is very different from knowing what's normal and being able to show that they are observing something out of the ordinary. They can't validate them because they simply aren't true. Anyone with a minimum of understanding of how the lunar cycle works can however validate that the moon is doing what it always has done. If the moon was behaving strangely, the lunar eclipse at the end of June and the upcoming July 11th solar eclipse could not occur.


One thing I have noticed is that all the "sun/moon-out-of-place" people don't seem to realize that the sun/moon doesn't move perpendicular to the horizon. They look at the Sun a bit after sunrise and assume in has come straight up from the horizon to where it is. Then they assume that the point of sunrise has changed, radically, from the day before when they saw it right AT the horizon.
 Quoting: Menow 1031573


The total solar eclipse today on Easter Island, predicted for decades, is proof positive that the sun, moon and the earth are precisely where they should be. The Manhattenhenge tonight at sunset will prove likewise.

These idiots just don't have a clue.
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The total solar eclipse today on Easter Island, predicted for decades, is proof positive that the sun, moon and the earth are precisely where they should be. The Manhattenhenge tonight at sunset will prove likewise.

These idiots just don't have a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


Hadn't you heard? The Zetas merely have to move the Moon to get the right effect!

Oh, wait, the Earth is halted. So now the Solar eclipse will be in the wrong spot on Earth. Easy, the Zetas must have sped up the Earth's rotation to get the right effect!

Oh, wait, it would have to be in the right constellation, so they shoved the Earth to the right spot in orbit, and then shoved the Moon into the right spot...though that would mean the Earth isn't halted...

Oh, wait, the rising and setting of the Sun would be *way* off then. Easy, the Zetas just change the watches and clocks of everyone worldwide, because they all rely on atomic clocks to get the right time!

Oh, wait, all the planets would be in the wrong spots, now. Well the Zetas merely have to move ALL the planets, stars, asteroids, and comets so that they all move correctly. That'll be a cinch!

Oh, wait, none of that would work because those pesky GOTO telescopes would all fail to track anything anymore. Okay, scrap all those plans.

Maybe if they just allowed the Earth to move the way it is predicted to move, and simply move PX away instead. Moving one object is easier than moving trillions, you'd think.

Unless you are the Zero-less Zetas. Then the math gets more tricky...
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There is angry email floating about from a fan of Cheryl's that claim I was jealous of her, but looking at my outreach (TV and radio appearances, international fame and translations done, etc) who would believe that?

"international fame" :wrotfl2:
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That ego of her's is growing - her head must be the size of Mr. Mackey's by now.
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Volar is being quite the asshole on the bottom of this page:
Thread: Nibiru? Planet X? Well.......here is your answer (Page 24)

He's trying to invoke an infamous net kook Ray Karchewski
and his 1.7 billion dollar claim against me. I believe
that Volar thinks The Commentator is actually Ray and
that's why he has called him "Raymond". What a fucked
up dude these Nancybois are.
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Indeed -- taking the ad hominem to the ad absurdum level...
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Volar is being quite the asshole on the bottom of this page:
Thread: Nibiru? Planet X? Well.......here is your answer (Page 24)

He's trying to invoke an infamous net kook Ray Karchewski
and his 1.7 billion dollar claim against me. I believe
that Volar thinks The Commentator is actually Ray and
that's why he has called him "Raymond". What a fucked
up dude these Nancybois are.
 Quoting: DrPostman



What the hell is that boy smoking/snorting/huffing/shooting? It can't be legal to fry that many brain cells.
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Volar is being quite the asshole on the bottom of this page:
Thread: Nibiru? Planet X? Well.......here is your answer (Page 24)

He's trying to invoke an infamous net kook Ray Karchewski
and his 1.7 billion dollar claim against me. I believe
that Volar thinks The Commentator is actually Ray and
that's why he has called him "Raymond". What a fucked
up dude these Nancybois are.
 Quoting: DrPostman




Looks like Confucius right again. Someone should tell that to Volar. That was so not nice. I guess that's what you resort to when you have absolutely no hard facts to support your position.

So what's the grand excuse going to be in January of 2013? Nobody is going to buy the same excuse twice. Or are they?

I still don't get the white lie. It was supposedly done so the Zeta's correct info wouldn't NASA and TPTB. But I thought they were already all aware of it, are all in on the sham, and all of them have been and are concealing info. The better white lie would be that we have all been catapulted into a parallel universe while Planet X is shattering the real Earth as we speak. And our Planet X in this universe is a tad behind the other one, time-wise.

Also, that post where it was obvious Nancy didn't know how magnitude is measured . . . that means her followers don't, either, or they would have said something to correct her gently.

From zetatalk:

"The Earth may be halting, reversing, tilting, rising up or down at times, then righting itself, the Moon off kilter temporarily then finding its orbit around Earth's middle again. The orbit of Mars, also magnetic, appears to have been retarded."



Even poor Mars has been dragged into this. How do you argue with such sound logic? Sounds like solar system pinball.


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From zetatalk:

"The Earth may be halting, reversing, tilting, rising up or down at times, then righting itself, the Moon off kilter temporarily then finding its orbit around Earth's middle again. The orbit of Mars, also magnetic, appears to have been retarded."




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Oh, Nancy, it isn't MARS that's retarded...
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From zetatalk:

"The Earth may be halting, reversing, tilting, rising up or down at times, then righting itself, the Moon off kilter temporarily then finding its orbit around Earth's middle again. The orbit of Mars, also magnetic, appears to have been retarded."



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015670

And there I was thinking it was vertigo. Dang Zetas messing with my orbit.
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Nancy even earned herself a page on this site - forgive me if you guys have already addressed it:


[link to www.2012hoax.org]



Nancy is never wrong

Nancy Lieder claims to have a stranglehold on the truth, and that "if any human theory differs, it is wrong"[7], and has a page dedicated to the accuracy of the Zeta predictions[8]. Of course, her fallback position is that she obtains special knowledge from her communications with the Zetas. Unfortunately for Nancy, the Zetas apparently tell her a lot of things that are just plain wrong, or that were claims made long before the Zetas ever came along.
Examples of Errors

1. Nancy and the Zetas claim that Stonehenge is older than the 12th planet, and that it survived prior cataclysms because it was placed in solid rock[9]. Unfortunately, the modern view of Stonehenge is a reconstruction. Reconstructions were performed at the Stonehenge site several times between 1901 and 1958, and many of the stones are now set in concrete[10][11].
2. They claimed that the comet of the century, Hale-Bopp, didn't exist[12][13]. Unfortunately Nancy missed this extraordinary event, deliberately, since she refused to go outside and look at it[14]. Later she (or they) admitted it was a lie[15]. The purpose of this deception was to somehow lay a 'trip point' to disrupt "the establishment".
3. Lieder makes basic errors in terminology, and is then unable to address simple questions about simple astronomy concepts[16]

In a nutshell (pun intended) the Hale-Bopp conversation on Sci.Astro went something like this:

NL (1995): Hale-Bopp is a hoax.
SA (1995): No, it's a comet. We can see it.
NL (1995): No, you can't, you're part of the hoax. It's an exploding star.
SA (1997): We have two years of tracking data. It's a comet.
NL (1997): No, NASA is slipping in tracking data to deceive you and align with a real comet.
SA (1997): Yes, it's a real comet!
NL (2002): You only think I was wrong, but really I was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
SA (2002): ???


Sounds like her Venus argument with Astronut, doesn't it?

It also mentions "Aliens she's met" and includes:

PumpkinHead Zeta, Chicken Man, Bean Bag Man, Cockroach Man and others . . .





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You mean she drew them somewhere? That looks like Amoeba Man, BTW!

lol
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You mean she drew them somewhere? That looks like Amoeba Man, BTW!

lol
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Be sure you don't have a hot cup of coffee in your hand when you look at this hilarity.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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You mean she drew them somewhere? That looks like Amoeba Man, BTW!

lol



Be sure you don't have a hot cup of coffee in your hand when you look at this hilarity.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Good call. I didn't have anything hot, but I just spilled watermelon juice everywhere. Just got back from shopping with a big, fat, juicy one. It was vampire man that did me in.

I wonder how the Zetas describe Nancy to each other?
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It's going to be like the Venus out of place thread. She's just going to make a royal ass of herself again.

I watched the eclipse and don't remember seeing Planet X.
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That's what I assumed it was, how can she not know about that? I guess the Zetas nulled the diamond ring effect, too, to make Planet X more visible.
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Nancy's back.
Thread: Planet X Proof During Eclipse! Zetas RIGHT Again!

Guess the Ning troubles have her looking for new converts here.
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I knew she would be back when the echo of Nancy's own voice in the empty halls at the ning was the only thing going on there. She apparently needs attention.

The images she refers to are laughable, but for Nancy, she'll take any lens flare images she can get her hands on and try to claim they are proof of her beloved rogue planet. Too bad she doesn't realize that the photos of a solar eclipse disprove her stalled earth theory. Zetas wrong again on all counts!
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And of course, every operator of every web cam on earth is part of a deep dark evil conspiracy. ROFLMAO
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It's going to be like the Venus out of place thread. She's just going to make a royal ass of herself again.
I watched the eclipse and don't remember seeing Planet X.

I think she's trying to claim "the diamond" effect is her
imaginary planet!
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i miss the bandering, creative BS, and outright tomfoolery in Nancy threads.....ah well...that is change u can believe in...back to playing the bagpipes....
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And what's with the "Zetas right again" everywhere? Don't you have to be right at least once to be able to claim this? Has she even ever had a lucky guess come true? Or has it all been just vague stuff.

Here's my own prediction:

Not making this up, but last night I had a dream about getting a ticket for not wearing a seat belt. It happened at some sort of toll booth. I managed to leave and get off at an exit and hide from the police. It caught up with me later and the dream was all leading up to the reason for giving me the ticket. It was a really big deal, and the reason was highlighted on the ticket when it was finally handed to me. What was written was "Mass Exodus From China". And that's right when I woke up. It was so strong it stuck with me for hours, and I dream every night. Things don't usually "stick" with me like this.

So that's my prediction, something will happen in China in the next few days and displace a great number of people. Let's see if I can get lucky, too. Then I can start proclaiming "Catseye right again!"


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I, too, was pretty sure Nancy couldn't stay away from GLP for long. Asked her questions on her new thread that she will undoubtedly fail to answer, or even address. Again.

Ah, good times.
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Anybody ever do the math about what would happen if another massive body, let's say 4 Jupiter masses, were to enter the inner solar system? Would it drag Mercury and Venus out of orbit? Perhaps they would careen towards the sun and get gobbled up? Maybe we would get lucky and they would bounce off of us and go back to their orbits? Would we get CMEs that make the 1859 solar storm look like a mild summer breeze? Would Jupiter come to our rescue and suck it up like it has recently done with comets?

I guess this isn't new by any means. I enjoyed watching the movie "When Worlds Collide" again a couple of months ago. Planet X was already on people's minds back in 1951.

Looks like Nancy abandoned her thread already. And before Astronut showed! Maybe she's reading up on Diamond Ring Effect so she can say why it can't be that.





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ooh look! pumpkinhead zetas!
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Nancy gets a lot of her material from old B movies. Ever watch the trailer for "The Man From Planet X"?

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