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What's the story behind the octopus references?
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Ooo! Catseye, BAD PEOPLE who question the word of the Emissary are reborn as slimey nasty awful octopus-things on a horrible planet, as punishment for daring to question the Great Truth that is ZetaTalk!

I kid you not.
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Ooo! Catseye, BAD PEOPLE who question the word of the Emissary are reborn as slimey nasty awful octopus-things on a horrible planet, as punishment for daring to question the Great Truth that is ZetaTalk!

I kid you not.
 Quoting: Returner 1077576



bwahahaha! I had to ask!


Do the zetas predict anything at all that is rosy for our future or is it all death and mayhem? Is this a "glass half empty" group? Has schizophrenia been considered? Seems like in the past, it was easy to have people committed to institutions . . . petition?
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Nancy quotes.....




How about these?

"The Zetas have commented on Hale-Bopp since it first hit the press in mid-1995. They have stated that Hale-Bopp is a fraud, designed to get the populace looking in the wrong direction, not toward Orion." – Date unknown

"We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2003 because we are observing the planet approaching your solar system." – Date unknown

"We have given the correct dates for the return of the 12th Planet as the year 2003 for the devastating first pass. All other dates are incorrect." – Date unknown

"Thus, you have Planet X in the news, under every subject but the inbound planet that will pass on May 15, 2003 or shortly thereafter." – June 2002

"Since the inception of ZetaTalk, the passage with rotation stoppage and pole shift has been described as occurring ´shortly after May 15, 2003.´" – Date unknown

"By May 15th, it will be utterly clear that earth changes are in process, most humans walking about in shock, numb. There will be no debate about a mistake. We have stated that the rotation will stop for approximately a week." – Date unknown

"Slowing rotation is so pronounced that even those not aware of the prediction are noticing their clocks minutes slow, on a regular basis, from ´official´ time." – March 22, 2003

"We have stated that Planet X will be visible in the daytime sky, 7 weeks before passage. Given that we have stated that passage is shortly after May 15, 2003, as at this time those wanting to survive should be at their safe locations, this is putting the visibility into the last week of March at the earliest." – March 2003

"Since we were precise about the dates, even the number of hours for rotation stoppage (5.9 days) [on the Loud Gentile show], we have no problem with being precise on the meaning of the Pole Shift date as May 27." – May 16, 2003

"On this date, May 30, 2003 the Earth is poised to experience great quakes and stretching of rifts, so that discussions of the exact date of rotation stoppage or the shift will be replaced by frantic efforts to deal with one disaster after another." – May 30, 2003

"You have only weeks not months" – July 20, 2003

"We have stated that Planet X would travel the span of Saturn’s orbit in 3 short months. In that Planet X has been visible to the naked eye since the very last days in March..." – August 28, 2003

"But at the current time, by late August, there is no question that the Planet X complex has arrived between the Earth and Sun..." – August 28, 2003

"Despite loud evidence that Planet X has arrived..." – September 21, 2003

"Given the increasingly obvious fact that Planet X is in the vicinity and not going away before trashing the neighborhood..." – October 11, 2003

"Those not willing or able to make changes in their lives before the Holidays may find the Holidays possible, but just barely, as the next sweeping arm of the Sun will put all doubt aside." – November 15, 2003

"The last arm swept by Earth around Dec 25, the next expected by the anxious humans watching the drama to start around Feb 9, 2004." – January 30, 2004

"Certain death on the International Space Station lies ahead for any who would remain there during the coming weeks." – December 10, 2004

"If fireballs have been an occasional entertainment, they will soon become a daily affair almost everywhere" – February 4, 2005

"The Earth is now coming into a similar period, when the N Pole of Planet X is swinging, slowing, around to point away from the Sun for the 3 days of darkness time those in the northern hemisphere of Earth will inevitably experience." – November 17, 2005
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Unfortunately the prognosis for Nancy is not good, claiming planet x as an incoming brown dwarf star in 1995 Nancy has escalated her claims over the years to culminate in the destruction of life as we know it in 2003, when this failed to materialize (and all her supporters left) Nancy's delusion simply grew and common sense of any kind disappeared, now a "water planet" inside the orbit of Venus planet x fails to vaporize due to a protective "dust cloud" while remaining invisible from all telescopes on earth.

Meanwhile Planet x and it's zetas have stopped the earth from orbiting and bob the earth up and down to fool everyone that nothing is amiss, Nancy "channels" zeta information via a "chip" in her head put there by the zetas who originally contacted Nancy by showing her an unwrapped starburst candy in a box.

Nancy wants us to prepare for planet wide destruction "real soon" during which 95% of humans will perish while true "believers" will be saved by Nancy and her zetas. I guess this is a minimalist synopsis. Nancy's proof of planet x includes pictures of a child's kite in front of the sun.

After more than 12 years without treatment Nancy demonstrates several psychotic disorders including, Delusional Disorder, Schizophrenia and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, while her family originally attempted to help, Nancy refused and has progressively deteriorated over the ensuing years.

Nancy has a complex mental condition that includes a "Messianic complex" vis.

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Messianic complex is a psychological state in which the individual believes him/herself to be, or is destined to become, the saviour of the particular field, a group, an event, a time period, or in an extreme scenario, the world.

People with Messianic Complexes tend to see themselves as saviours to a specific group of people or a specific field, making claims of their own glory, or claiming a self awareness of their own gift and how that gift can affect a group of people or a field of life.

In the most extreme cases, people with Messianic Complexes may see themselves as spiritual/religious Messiahs with transcendent powers who are destined to save the world.
end quote

FreeStore bought this hook line and sinker, giving up his worldly possessions to build a shelter, when May 2003 came and went FreeStore was left to either admit he made a mistake or follow Nancy, FreeStore was so entrenched with the idea of zetas that his wife and child left, so FreeStore has nothing except Nancy and the zetas, it is a sad story, one that demonstrates what happens to a cult after it collapses.
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Good list, Rabbit.
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What's the story behind the octopus references?
 Quoting: Catseye

This applies, too:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

^^ All who do not follow Nancy will end up on prison planet as lower marine lifeform, so says Nancy.
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Good list, Rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

It was a list of statements that I made up after going through ZetaTalk. It gets brought up every now and then for good reason. The list could be a lot longer considering how much crap is on her site.
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Some excellent sites are here.

[link to www.2012hoax.org]

[link to website.lineone.net]

[link to rationalwiki.org]

[link to www.skepticalmind.com]

Beware Nancy's writings can make one laugh so hard you will turn blue, proving that Smurfs really do exist!
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Comes from this page: [link to www.zetatalk.com]

One of the funniest reads on the internet! Her comment about
"Vampire man" was the bomb!
 Quoting: DrPostman


After that, you have to ask yourself why anyone would believe her. Combine it with her never ending excuses to explain why "Planet X" keeps failing to show up and you wonder how it is she's still around.
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Good list, Rabbit.

It was a list of statements that I made up after going through ZetaTalk. It gets brought up every now and then for good reason. The list could be a lot longer considering how much crap is on her site.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


OOPs! Sorry for not quoting your byline CB.
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Beware Nancy's writings can make one laugh so hard you will turn blue, proving that Smurfs really do exist!
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

A lot of it is hilarious. Then there's a lot that's so gibberish it makes me go, "WTF?"
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OOPs! Sorry for not quoting your byline CB.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


I don't care...I made the list long ago and it's not like I copyrighted it or anything. It used to get them all riled up though.

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Well, time to do my four mile run/jog...it rained during the night so the streets are too wet to ride.
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From J.W. Dell


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From: jak...@midbc.com (J.William Dell)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Conclusion: Statement of Claim Nov 1 2002
Date: 21 May 2003 20:27:41 -0700
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Regarding: Zeta Statement of Claim filed on Sci.Astro Nov. 1 2002

As the time frame and conditions for the return of Planet X/Niburu as
given by the "Zeta" from Nancy Lieder have not occurred, it is time
for the statement of claim of November 1st 2002 filed on this message
board to be declared invalid.

As the proponent in the debate between Enterprise2002 and myself in
October 2002,it is my duty to recognize and declare that the Statement
of Claim submitted does not stand, based on the evidence.

Whatever was being imaged during the time frame of Sept 2002 to March
2003, was not the alledged Planet X/Niburu as given by Nancy
Lieder/Zeta as it has not, in the final outcome, fulfilled the
conditions as stated.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

No object has arrived in the vicinity of Earth matching the
description of Planet X/Niburu causing any significant earth rotation
slow down as of this date May 21 2003.

Observations May 18 to May 21 2003
122 W 53 N 8:35 AM PDT
[link to www.zetabc.com]

As stated in the original debate;
" As time will quickly prove the issue, there is no need for a vote. "

That time has now passed, and the outcome is known.

In closing;

Many have taken positions in this debate,
and tempers were raised at times.
To those I have offended, I sincerely apologize.
And from this experience, emerge a wiser man.

J.William Dell
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Nancy defies the universe...


Subject: PX Speeeeeed????======>
Date: 10 Mar 2002 15:52:05 -0800

"(NancyL)
ZT: During math discussions on sci.astro, it has been
distilled that the speed of Planet X is some 4 times the speed of
light during its most rapid approach. Why is it assumed that light is
the FASTEST thing in the universe, re travel? Man thinks this because
it is something he can measure."
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder



So how does Px behave differently from the rest of the universe? simple,
it's nothing more than a delusion in Nancy's mind.
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And for those who are somewhat new to Nancy's ravings even the Zetans dropped in a disclaimer.



The Zetan Federation Denies Nancy Lieder Contact
10-3-2007

I have a message from the Zetan Federation concerning claims made by the Earth human Nancy Lieder.

"The Zetan Federation disavows and refutes all claims made by the human called Nancy Lieder. Neither the Zetan Federation, nor any citizen of Zeta, has ever contacted Nancy Lieder nor authorized her to speak on our behalf.

The Zetan Federation requests that Nancy Lieder cease all claims of being our spokesperson on planet Earth or anywhere in the cosmos.

The Zetan Federation has a strict non-interference policy as regards planet Earth. If we did engage in any Earth contact, or had a message we wanted to share with the people of planet Earth, we would not engage in a procedure involving a bio-genetic transplant of Zetan bio-material into a human brain as claimed by Nancy Lieder. Nor does the Zetan Federation engage in a genetic hybrid program anywhere in the cosmos, as Nancy Lieder has claimed.

The Zetan Federation does not perform terra forming on planet Earth. In no way does the Zetan Federation have any involvement with Earth geophysical events such as volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, and weather phenomena.

The Zetan Federation does not engage in planet Earth timeline information and predictions. Our non-interference policy prohibits all Zetans from involvement in all Earth politics, governments, religions, belief systems, science, technology, communications, and social interactions."
-----------------------------------------------------


Zetan Federation Responds To Nancy Lieder
10-7-2007

Nancy Lieder, your response to the Zetan Federation message is unacceptable. You would have these humans believe that you are the voice of the Zetans when you and the world have been advised that the Zetan Federation has never made contact with you --- until now.

By your unacceptable response to our message we do now make contact with you through this internet mode of communication. This is the one and only time that we will acknowledge you directly, and never again will you be personally addressed. The Zetans do not engage in the false utterances you insist source from us. Your egocentric behavior, in our name, must cease and our reputation restored.

The Zetan Federation absolutely objects to your misuse of our existence. We are an ancient race with ancient and honorable associations to planet Earth. You have subjected the honor of our ancient heritage to the worst sort of dishonor, by your false claims of representing us as the source of pronouncements that no Zetan would ever engage in or declare.

We refuse to be defined or defiled by you.

Earth communications have progressed to the stage where Zetan technology is able to integrate our communications through your internet. We never have, nor shall we ever, integrate our communications through the brain of a human as you have claimed we did to you. Such an idea is repugnant to us and a violation of our technology standards of morals and excellence.

When the Zetans speak, our words are not for the few or the self proclaimed elite. There is no human agent who holds court on our behalf. Our words are free to all who wish to know them. The Zetan Federation has preserved the history and heritage of planet Earth, and there will come a day when we gift this knowledge back to the descendants of our friends and kin from the long ago of Earth's past. That was our pledge then and this is our pledge now.

Know this to all, that when the Zetan Federation gifts back the knowledge of the ages to the inhabitants of planet Earth, this will be done by us in person on Earth. We will come without allegiance to any country, government, religion, or belief system. We will come to extend our friendship to a united Earth, and a pathway back to the world from whence your ancestors originated. Before this time shall come to pass, let no one on Earth claim authority over the Zetans or the knowledge of the Zetans.
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J.William Dell
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

He was a regular here on the thread ... haven't seen him in a long while though.

The Lone Ranger is still missing , too :(
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So how does Px behave differently from the rest of the universe? simple, it's nothing more than a delusion in Nancy's mind.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

I'd like to know how a planet with 4 times the mass of Venus manages to travel faster than the speed of light. What propels it to such great speeds? And if it's traveling faster than the speed of light, that means when you're able to see it in a telescope, it's already gone. And why do none of the other known planets in the universe behave this way? Every planet, even those we've discovered in other galaxies, orbit a star or sun.
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So how does Px behave differently from the rest of the universe? simple, it's nothing more than a delusion in Nancy's mind.

I'd like to know how a planet with 4 times the mass of Venus manages to travel faster than the speed of light. What propels it to such great speeds? And if it's traveling faster than the speed of light, that means when you're able to see it in a telescope, it's already gone. And why do none of the other known planets in the universe behave this way? Every planet, even those we've discovered in other galaxies, orbit a star or sun.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



Planet X is composed of miracle element unobtainium, which gives it many mystical and unique properties.

For example, Starbust candies stay fresh on the surface forever, even if they are unwrapped!

It truly is a world of wonder.
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Many have taken positions in this debate,
and tempers were raised at times.
To those I have offended, I sincerely apologize.
And from this experience, emerge a wiser man.

J.William Dell
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


Dell was man enough to admit that he had gotten wrapped up with Nancy's claims. But, unlike Nancy's other followers, he still retained the ability to think for himself and truly examine the evidence. When he did so, he realized that Nancy was wrong and came forward to admit that he was too and then apologize for those he may have attacked. For that, I have respect for him.
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Planet X is composed of miracle element unobtainium, which gives it many mystical and unique properties.

For example, Starbust candies stay fresh on the surface forever, even if they are unwrapped!

It truly is a world of wonder.
 Quoting: Returner 997


Oh, man, you should have logged in to the ning and asked Nancy about that element. Even though it's made up, I bet she would go with it and make up some kind of techno-babble to explain what it is.
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Yeah, but there would be no urgentness to a date way in the future. She has finally hit on the right idea now, by just saying it's always imminent. She no longer takes responsibility for the "before 2012" bit. She'll just say that "Zetas" didn't really give that date because "Zetas" don't give dates.

Christians have been doing that for almost 2,000 years. In
spite of the fact that the NT states that Jesus told them
that "not one generation shall pass".

It's a lesson learned too late. That's why she left GLP. We
have almost a dozen (if not more) different quotes from her
from the last 7 years where she states in no uncertain terms
that 2012 is too far out a date.
 Quoting: DrPostman


I pulled out every "before 2012" quote I could find from Nancy and posted them a few pages back, if someone wants to catalog them all.
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Planet X is composed of miracle element unobtainium, which gives it many mystical and unique properties.

For example, Starbust candies stay fresh on the surface forever, even if they are unwrapped!

It truly is a world of wonder.


Oh, man, you should have logged in to the ning and asked Nancy about that element. Even though it's made up, I bet she would go with it and make up some kind of techno-babble to explain what it is.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Unobtanium ... wasnt that the stuff they were mining after in the movie Avatar ?
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Planet X is composed of miracle element unobtainium, which gives it many mystical and unique properties.

For example, Starbust candies stay fresh on the surface forever, even if they are unwrapped!

It truly is a world of wonder.


Oh, man, you should have logged in to the ning and asked Nancy about that element. Even though it's made up, I bet she would go with it and make up some kind of techno-babble to explain what it is.

Unobtanium ... wasnt that the stuff they were mining after in the movie Avatar ?
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Actually, I think that word was coined by Bob Lazar in talking about the supposed fuel used in the alien craft he supposedly back-engineered at area 51. At least that's the first time I ever heard it used.
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It's what I tell people I put in my coffee.

Maybe I should ask Nancy if PX is composed of 'Caverite.' That might explain PX's anti-gravity properties...
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Nice avatar there DrPostman. I'd like to get a picture of Nancy and do the same thing, except have it say, "Fools! I am Nancy. Whack job from WI!"
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Maybe something involving a Starburst fruit chew.
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Nah, start out with her current avatar from Star Wars and have it morph to show how she really looks with one of her funniest statements scrolling across.
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A new woo-woo in town?

Thread: Breaking! NIBIRU is now in the Northern Hemisphere!!! Nibiru spotted in Denmark 09/05 >>(video)<<
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