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| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
6/14/2009 9:16 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
 I might not be part of the more common debunkers in Mrs. LIEders threads, but I respect the "boycott" but I still find it hard to keep from hitting that "reply" button when she keeps mentioning these alleged "second sun" videos. in which most if not all had ended up having some more Mundane and realistic answer to them. the urge...the urge 
Cut and paste the original in here! vis.
Buketlass
Hi Andrew,
Please don't ever worry about offending me about anything. I left for a time to do something important and I just came back to see if I got any reaction to my thoughts.
end quote
Look! flush toilets in here too!
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/14/2009 9:16 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
I think this works better...keep the Zetas Wrong Again thread on the front page and let Nancy's thread sink to the bottom. If the bunkers want to come here and try to defend nancy's foolishness, let them have at it. |
| Mysterysoul
User ID: 664247
6/14/2009 9:22 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Do the zetas guesstimate that PX will become visible to the naked eye before the end of the 2009 calendar year, or would that be giving away the timeframe of the shift itself to answer? What about amateur telescopes; any chance they might start seeing it soon, as with camera phones?
SOZT
Obviously, answering when Planet X will be visible to all is breaking the rule about giving away the timeframe. Planet X IS visible now, as the Russian video shows, and as reports on seeing the Second Sun rise or set demonstrates. As always, it is mostly lost in the glare of the Sun, and many sun filters are so strong that Planet X is filtered out entirely. As we said, sunrise and sunset are the best times for naked eye viewing, but conditions must be just right.
EOZT Quoting: Nancy Lieder
hehe, Cut and pasted original quote.
The bold part is quite humorous to me. in all honesty. it just seems. wrong. considering there are many different types of Filters, and objects that can be used as a different filter. that just doesn't make sense.
IMO, it just seems she is trying to twist the Evidence of no second sun being seen through proper equipment and also some of the lesser equipment to corroborate why it cannot be seen.
Last Edited by Mysterysoul on 6/14/2009 at 9:23 AM
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming--WOO HOO what a ride!" |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
6/14/2009 9:23 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Here we go! dragging up the gross stupidity to see if we can be goaded to reply.
quote
i know it because i am lucky to have my house and street running almost precisely west-east, fixed orientiers - nearby houses and industrial pipe on the horizon, mountains
Quoting: andrew
Buketchik
It's amazing that you should say that. One of the founders of my community here in Pennsylvania was a surveyer. (Hope I spelled that right.) Because of him, the streets either run north-south or east-west. I used to go outside in nice weather and watch the sun set between two far away hills. Year after year, decade after decade, I could count on the sun. It shifted to the left or right, depending on the time of year, but I recall it always setting between those distance hills. I decided on the location of my flower bed, based on the path of the sun over my apartment building.
end quote
As predicted! Prof_Rabbit right again!
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/14/2009 9:33 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Yeah...and when some bunkers last week claimed that the sun was setting "where it never had before", it didn't take but a couple of minutes to find sunset pictures from Katcam from the same date but three years earlier showing it setting in exactly the same place. Needless to say, after the OP calling me a few names, the thread died. |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
6/14/2009 9:38 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Interesting read here.
[link to bornofire.blogspot.com]
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
6/14/2009 9:40 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Yeah...and when some bunkers last week claimed that the sun was setting "where it never had before", it didn't take but a couple of minutes to find sunset pictures from Katcam from the same date but three years earlier showing it setting in exactly the same place. Needless to say, after the OP calling me a few names, the thread died. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 88145
Yes, I also posted three katcams for the same day across three years.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
6/14/2009 9:44 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Prediction!
Nancy will creep over here in the guise of one of her sock puppets, most likely Max, just to get her fix of daily attention. Most likely followed by the two mental midgets, Freaky and the Slug.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Mysterysoul
User ID: 664247
6/14/2009 9:45 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Prediction!
Nancy will creep over here in the guise of one of her sock puppets, most likely Max, just to get her fix of daily attention. Most likely followed by the two mental midgets, Freaky and the Slug. Quoting: Prof_Rabbit
 one of the few predictions on GLP that will probably come true.
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming--WOO HOO what a ride!" |
| Circuit Breaker 
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6/14/2009 10:00 AM
 | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Hey - I was thinking it too! Thanks for saying it! Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
That's because we know how you work. Logic and reason are not your strong points. |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:02 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
We were fans...but you all cried because we kept proving Nancy wrong. So let me change that message to what it should have said:
Note to believers only
Redirect your browser here:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:04 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Actually I think melfy is coming unraveled.... Quoting: The Commentator
That could be. Notice how he can't stay out of our thread. He may want to...but he lacks the capacity. |
| ***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 701993
6/14/2009 10:19 AM
 | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Actually I think melfy is coming unraveled....
That could be. Notice how he can't stay out of our thread. He may want to...but he lacks the capacity. Quoting: Circuit Breaker
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
6/14/2009 10:21 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Actually I think melfy is coming unraveled....
That could be. Notice how he can't stay out of our thread. He may want to...but he lacks the capacity.
Right on cue. You are nothing if not predictable!
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/14/2009 10:24 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Note how Max is getting desperate since Nancy's thread is getting no traffic and he's resorting to manually bumping it.
Priceless! |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:29 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
She is wrong all the time. Everytime there is an earthquake, she claims a hit, but what she doesn't mention is that she didn't actually predict a specific quake. She says vague shit like "there will be quakes", "there will be hurricanes", "there will be tornados", and of course there will be. There always have been. Years ago she claimed that the "uptick" in quakes would be exponential, but apparently the Zetas don't know what that word means, because if there were such an exponential increase in quakes, by now the earth would be quaking to the tune of 8 constantly. But it is something the bunkers are more than happy to overlook. Quoting: KeepingItReal
Let's not forget how she refers everyone to the USGS for "proof" of her claims...and then when it doesn't support her, she claims the USGS is falsifying the data. In addition, when there's a quake, she posts information from multiple locations claiming this is "proof" of global quakes when, in actuality, she's only posting data for one quake as measured at multiple locations.
She was also very wrong about Obama. She claimed last year that Obama would not get the nomination. When he did, she back pedaled and made up some lame excuse about human decision, bla bla, and then proclaimed Obama a starchild that is here to prepare us for the pole shift and punish Bush and Cheney. Of course that isn't happening either, so she spins. Quoting: KeepingItReal
It won't be long before she turns on him.
No matter how hard she tries, she always picks the wrong outcome. When she proclaimed "No Pandemic", I thought oh shit! That means there will be one, because she has never gotten anything right before. Quoting: KeepingItReal
And it's been quite entertaining watching ZetaMax attempt to spin it so Nancy can still be right. For instance, he claimed for it to be a pandemic by the "Zeta" standards, several more requirements would need to be met. What a crock. Why didn't the "Zetas" state what their requirements were for a pandemic when they made the statement? He'll do anything to avoid saying she is wrong.
Perhaps tomorrow I will explore some of Nancy's astronomical claims. She has coined phrases that will live on in woo woo land. It is always good for a laugh. Quoting: KeepingItReal
So has ZetaMax. When we pointed out that certain constellations would never become visible if Earth were "halted in orbit," thus proving Earth was not halted, he came up with "screened memories" as an excuse to explain it away.
Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 6/14/2009 at 10:44 AM |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:35 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Poor bunkers. They don't know what to do but continue bitching
about us. Just looks at the last couple of pages. Nothing
but rants about debunkers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 676928
And they're doing it to bait us into posting there...plain and simple. |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:41 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
hehe, Cut and pasted original quote.
The bold part is quite humorous to me. in all honesty. it just seems. wrong. considering there are many different types of Filters, and objects that can be used as a different filter. that just doesn't make sense.
IMO, it just seems she is trying to twist the Evidence of no second sun being seen through proper equipment and also some of the lesser equipment to corroborate why it cannot be seen. Quoting: Mysterysoul
I posted the same thing on either page one or two of this thread. |
| Mysterysoul
User ID: 664247
6/14/2009 10:43 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
hehe, Cut and pasted original quote.
The bold part is quite humorous to me. in all honesty. it just seems. wrong. considering there are many different types of Filters, and objects that can be used as a different filter. that just doesn't make sense.
IMO, it just seems she is trying to twist the Evidence of no second sun being seen through proper equipment and also some of the lesser equipment to corroborate why it cannot be seen.
I posted the same thing on either page one or two of this thread. Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Ahh sorry. Well at least I reiterated what you said 
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming--WOO HOO what a ride!" |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:43 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Actually I think melfy is coming unraveled....
That could be. Notice how he can't stay out of our thread. He may want to...but he lacks the capacity.
And yet you prove my point. You simply can't help yourself. |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:45 AM
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Ahh sorry. Well at least I reiterated what you said
No big...it gets lost in the pages and some things deserve to be posted again. |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:47 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
You obviously haven't read it with an open mind. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Neither have you. |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:48 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
I still don't see a post quoting her, or the zetas, that has been proved wrong. This threat subject LIES. I want to see some inaccuracies here people!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569410
Here are but a few:
"The Zetas have commented on Hale-Bopp since it first hit the press in mid-1995. They have stated that Hale-Bopp is a fraud, designed to get the populace looking in the wrong direction, not toward Orion." Date unknown
"We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2003 because we are observing the planet approaching your solar system." Date unknown
"We have given the correct dates for the return of the 12th Planet as the year 2003 for the devastating first pass. All other dates are incorrect." Date unknown
"Thus, you have Planet X in the news, under every subject but the inbound planet that will pass on May 15, 2003 or shortly thereafter." June 2002
"Since the inception of ZetaTalk, the passage with rotation stoppage and pole shift has been described as occurring ´shortly after May 15, 2003.´" Date unknown
"By May 15th, it will be utterly clear that earth changes are in process, most humans walking about in shock, numb. There will be no debate about a mistake. We have stated that the rotation will stop for approximately a week." Date unknown
"Slowing rotation is so pronounced that even those not aware of the prediction are noticing their clocks minutes slow, on a regular basis, from ´official´ time." March 22, 2003
"...nor will the war progress to the point where a regime change occurs." Commenting on Iraq, March 22, 2003
"In short, they are not heeding the warnings of the Council, so stronger measures will shortly be taken. These measures will be, like the Columbia disaster, of a magnitude to stop the onslaught of the invasion as though the breath had been taken out of the body." Commenting on Iraq, March 22, 2003
"We have stated that Planet X will be visible in the daytime sky, 7 weeks before passage. Given that we have stated that passage is shortly after May 15, 2003, as at this time those wanting to survive should be at their safe locations, this is putting the visibility into the last week of March at the earliest." March 2003
"Since we were precise about the dates, even the number of hours for rotation stoppage (5.9 days) [on the Loud Gentile show], we have no problem with being precise on the meaning of the Pole Shift date as May 27." May 16, 2003
"On this date, May 30, 2003 the Earth is poised to experience great quakes and stretching of rifts, so that discussions of the exact date of rotation stoppage or the shift will be replaced by frantic efforts to deal with one disaster after another." May 30, 2003
"You have only weeks not months" July 20, 2003
"We have stated that Planet X would travel the span of Saturns orbit in 3 short months. In that Planet X has been visible to the naked eye since the very last days in March..." August 28, 2003
"But at the current time, by late August, there is no question that the Planet X complex has arrived between the Earth and Sun..." August 28, 2003
"Despite loud evidence that Planet X has arrived..." September 21, 2003
"Given the increasingly obvious fact that Planet X is in the vicinity and not going away before trashing the neighborhood..." October 11, 2003
"Those not willing or able to make changes in their lives before the Holidays may find the Holidays possible, but just barely, as the next sweeping arm of the Sun will put all doubt aside." November 15, 2003
"The last arm swept by Earth around Dec 25, the next expected by the anxious humans watching the drama to start around Feb 9, 2004." January 30, 2004
"The Earth´s dark twin, approaching from behind her, has scant months to reach her and create a crisis. Earth stopping on Dec 25 allows for a full half orbit by this twin by June 25, 2004, but the crisis will occur sooner and for many reasons. This twin cannot go to the left, where Venus lies, nor the right, where Mars rides, and cannot move forward. The effect of such a traffic jam is not within mans knowledge bank." April 2004
"Certain death on the International Space Station lies ahead for any who would remain there during the coming weeks." December 10, 2004
"If fireballs have been an occasional entertainment, they will soon become a daily affair almost everywhere" February 4, 2005
"The Earth is now coming into a similar period, when the N Pole of Planet X is swinging, slowing, around to point away from the Sun for the 3 days of darkness time those in the northern hemisphere of Earth will inevitably experience." November 17, 2005
"The Zetas will not give a date beyond saying that 2012 is too far out, for the pole shift." February 18, 2006 on GLP. |
| Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:51 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
If this zeta stuff is so silly why don't you get a fucking life and fuck off!!! Cause your'e not sharing anything but your ignorance. Quoting: Asswipes 701085
If it's so accurate, why don't you do Nancy a favor and prove it. |
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6/14/2009 10:53 AM
| | Circuit Breaker
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6/14/2009 10:59 AM
| | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
I think this works better...keep the Zetas Wrong Again thread on the front page and let Nancy's thread sink to the bottom. If the bunkers want to come here and try to defend nancy's foolishness, let them have at it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 88145
I see that Tmad1 posted over there. It was only once and he did post information that was relevant. The problem is - the person he was aiming it at (burkettgirl) isn't going to care. She had already stated she believed Nancy's version of the story.
Otherwise, yeah, her thread is rather void of any significan life. Just Free Store, burkettgirl and Andrew casually chatting. Oh, and Max posting a  because the thread wasn't getting any activity. |
| Mysterysoul
User ID: 664247
6/14/2009 11:01 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
yes, I agree she(or her puppets) would try to spin it off as "conditions weren't right". I have read your argument on several of the alleged "second sun" video threads, and has yet to be addressed, as well as the possibilities of the rather more mundane sun dogs, Lens flares, and the more common now Internal lens reflections. To date, she has yet to address it. and as typical probably never will.
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming--WOO HOO what a ride!" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
6/14/2009 11:06 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
I think this works better...keep the Zetas Wrong Again thread on the front page and let Nancy's thread sink to the bottom. If the bunkers want to come here and try to defend nancy's foolishness, let them have at it.
I see that Tmad1 posted over there. It was only once and he did post information that was relevant. The problem is - the person he was aiming it at (burkettgirl) isn't going to care. She had already stated she believed Nancy's version of the story.
Otherwise, yeah, her thread is rather void of any significan life. Just Free Store, burkettgirl and Andrew casually chatting. Oh, and Max posting a because the thread wasn't getting any activity.
That will be just about the extent of it, too.
If we feel inclined to respond to anything she says or claims, or laugh at it, just cut and paste it over here. It won't be long before her threads die with less than 10 pages (half of them being Max's juvenile graphics) while the Zetas Wrong Again threads grow "exponentially"! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 548017
6/14/2009 11:13 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Maybe we should have a pool on how many times ZetaMax bumps Nancy's thread in the next week! |
| Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 148352
6/14/2009 11:35 AM | | Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!! | Quote |
Maybe we should have a pool on how many times ZetaMax bumps Nancy's thread in the next week! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548017
Great idea, any prizes?
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
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