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Geez... Dr P!

I don't know about that avatar, you got going on! ha ha
I don't think it fits you!

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Geez... Dr P!

I don't know about that avatar, you got going on! ha ha
I don't think it fits you!

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 Quoting: Earth420


Just got this in an email:

Planet X Pending Passage Update by Sheldan Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation

6 Cimi, 4 Tzotz, 7 Eb

Dratzo! (Sirian for Beloved Souls!) We come again with much to discuss with you. The past month has been filled with concessions and rebukes from the dark cabal! Every day we come together as a committee with our Earth allies and the top leaders of this cabal somewhere on your globe. These meetings are part of a procedure set up by Heaven. The dark ones know by now of the inevitability of their downfall, yet they persist in falsifications and in seeking to delay even further what needs to be done. We have therefore embarked on a series of projects designed to transform these stalemates into a desired outcome. So far we have been able to get a large majority of what is required signed off on. The rest will be done when we have assisted in driving these dark ones from power. The key remains the dark minions' wealth and power. We are presently wrapping up an operation that denies them the ability to secure their wealth. This greatly troubles them and permits us to force numerous concessions out of them. This is leading to a way to remove them from power.

Our unwavering perseverance in these matters is fragmenting the cabal into many smaller groups, each of which secretly plots against the others. Many individuals have abruptly disappeared, leaving a power vacuum behind in the main group. Strife, stratagems, and subplots abound! What was once a unified block is now crumbling into ever-smaller factions. The nemesis for them all is lack of money. These groups are in bankruptcy and unable to prevent this fact from becoming public. We expect announcements to this effect to begin seeping into the mass media any day now, and many on the Internet who are in the know about these matters have been forecasting this over the last few months. When these facts become public and are admitted by your governments, the global corporate state will rapidly disintegrate. As this happens, those agreements already signed can come into effect as these documents constitute the basis for the new temporary regimes. It is these regimes that are to return your world to Common Law and global prosperity.

These points of order are intended to bring the present de facto corporate regimes to their knees by the use of bankruptcy and denial of funds. These regimes in the past have stolen literally trillions of dollars from their citizens! The dark cabal was working toward making each of you first into chattel, and then into outright slaves of the corporate state. The Anunnaki plan was to progress from subtle forms of control to a full-blown holocaust of depopulation, as too many people create a level of pollution that is unacceptable to them. Their solution was to deny you access to healthy food and supplements and substitute these with a wholly toxic food chain. They expected this to cause massive pandemics designed to kill billions. These ones have no use for the average citizens of Mother Earth; to them you are a waste of space and resources, and better off dead. This belief is common among those who make up this global cabal, but it flies in the face of a simple, divine truth: all life is precious! We have watched in horror from above as their secret councils discuss such issues.

As the dark approaches its defeat, we must discuss with you what is to happen. Once in power, the new regimes will take into custody the members of the previous dark governments. This will free up the 'airwaves', allowing a true and open dissemination of information concerning all aspects of the incoming new reality: general debt forgiveness; distribution of tax refunds; delivery of prosperity funds; new monetary system; creation of global peace and nuclear disarmament. After these are thoroughly explained to you, the subject of us, the Galactic Federation, must be discussed. Indeed, the end of the 'UFO' cover-up is a major issue all by itself. We will be introduced alongside the revelation of a whole slew of secret technology. As you can see, a great deal of information is to be released to you in a relatively short period. Also, most of those who were incarcerated for non-violent crimes are to be released after a review of their cases. Lawyers will be retrained and the entire court system overhauled.

The new institutions will be people-oriented. At present, governments, banks, places of work etc., are all geared toward serving the wealthy and powerful, as they have been for centuries. The daunting task of our Earth allies is to turn this attitude on its head and transform the dismissive indifference of your social institutions. We have talked long and hard with our Earth allies on this one subject alone. Special transitional organizations are needed in order to move from authoritarian and hierarchical institutions to decentralized and people-friendly ones. Some of your more forward-thinking corporations have adopted this approach, and this is a good start. However, we favor a complete reorganization of governance along these lines. The average citizen must be able to provide input and, where appropriate, be able to monitor and oversee the changes agreed to. This can be a start for employing fluid group dynamics.

Interaction between government, institutions, and citizens needs to move onto a decentralized footing. Interpersonal communication is set in general to change immensely. Not only does your environment rely heavily on electronics and the Internet, but once abundance sets in, this too will change the way you relate to each other. Further, you are in the midst of a huge shift in consciousness. To top it all, we are about to be added to the mix, and this will create something unique. This coming environment is utterly different from your present one. Moreover, it will be based on one simple fact: personal sovereignty, with full unalienable rights. These various rights cannot be abridged! What we are asking our Earth allies to do is simply to make your organizations user-friendly and environmentally responsible. In a nutshell, the new regimes are to change how governments, banks, and corporations respond to you.

The goal is to create a prosperous, informed, and concerned citizenry. This diversity can solve any problem that comes up. You are to receive great wealth, astonishing technology, and a super-abundance of information. Plus, you are approaching the point of becoming fully conscious! We are here to monitor this and to mentor you when needed; however, the bulk of the responsibility stays with you. Each of you possesses innate wisdom and Heaven's blessings. Your future is bright and the sky is literally the limit! You have enormous resources and a living planet to protect. Included in this is the vast realm of Inner Earth. The Agarthans are part of your world, and like you, they have a huge reservoir of wisdom. Come together to make a wondrous new reality!

What lies ahead of you are the first challenges of your new star-nation! We know that you are destined to succeed in all that you do. You are a great people! 900,000 years ago, Heaven sent the best and brightest of fifty human star-nations to Gaia. Your ancestors were then co-opted by the Atlantean elites and fell into limited consciousness. For 13 millennia you suffered, learned, and survived. Now the time comes for you to take up the mental cudgels of your frustration and transform them into a glorious and merciful Love that will be the cornerstone of your transformation into full consciousness. Alongside the Agarthans, we await the moment to make ourselves known to you. The magic instant will be when you let go of your past and take on the mantel of who you really are!

Today you stand on the precipice of a new reality! This new world will be a fully-conscious one, filled with an ongoing series of wonders you can barely at present conceive of. There is an entire solar system to be readied for your guardianship and your exhilarating destiny! Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Just got this in an email:

Planet X Pending Passage Update by Sheldan Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation

6 Cimi, 4 Tzotz, 7 Eb

Dratzo! (Sirian for Beloved Souls!) We come again with much to discuss with you. The past month has been filled with concessions and rebukes from the dark cabal! Every day we come together as a committee with our Earth allies and the top leaders of this cabal somewhere on your globe. These meetings are part of a procedure set up by Heaven. The dark ones know by now of the inevitability of their downfall, yet they persist in falsifications and in seeking to delay even further what needs to be done. We have therefore embarked on a series of projects designed to transform these stalemates into a desired outcome. So far we have been able to get a large majority of what is required signed off on. The rest will be done when we have assisted in driving these dark ones from power. The key remains the dark minions' wealth and power. We are presently wrapping up an operation that denies them the ability to secure their wealth. This greatly troubles them and permits us to force numerous concessions out of them. This is leading to a way to remove them from power.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


<laughing>

I'm wondering how much money you have sent to Dr. Okonohu in Nigeria in hopes of securing trapped funds that reside there?
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Apparently Max is unaware of just how little credibility that
Sheldon Nidle has, especially since his "Alien Mass Landings
Soon" bullshit of the 1990s. Ever since then he posts those
flowery long diatrabs going on and on about how soon these things
will happen. No one believes him anymore, and that's perfect
for Max.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Even less than Nancy?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Geez... Dr P!

I don't know about that avatar, you got going on! ha ha
I don't think it fits you!

Peace


Just got this in an email:

Planet X Pending Passage Update by Sheldan Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation

6 Cimi, 4 Tzotz, 7 Eb

Dratzo! (Sirian for Beloved Souls!) We come again with much to discuss with you. The past month has been filled with concessions and rebukes from the dark cabal! Every day we come together as a committee with our Earth allies and the top leaders of this cabal somewhere on your globe. These meetings are part of a procedure set up by Heaven. The dark one.... clipped for sanity's sake!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



Your high priestess doesn't like Sheldon...

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"Thus, there have been embarrassingly silly pronouncements from this author since the Photon Belt failed to materialize, none of which are taken very seriously by the public."
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MaxiMelf may not have been born in Dumbfuckistan, but he holds citizenship there.


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laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh

Please go back to ignoring me.



Ah, I think you hurt wittle Melfy's feelings....
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melfy/bridget has as many feelings as brains, that is essentially zero.
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Your high priestess doesn't like Sheldon...

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"Thus, there have been embarrassingly silly pronouncements from this author since the Photon Belt failed to materialize, none of which are taken very seriously by the public."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1114553


And apparently, Nancy's hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Average IQ of the ning takes another dive:



[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

[link to www.zetaquawk.com]
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OMG! Those people are either REALLY stupid, or it's all an act. I mean, seriously, how can you live to be an adult and never notice that the moon is, indeed, visible during the day at certain times of the month?

And the comments about the moon tilting 90 degrees during the course of the night as proof of the Earth wobbling is hilarious! I almost feel sorry for how stupid or ignorant (maybe both) they are.

I am SO looking forward to their posts in the coming months as 2012 gets closer. There's little doubt they'll start running in circles with their arms in the air as the "signs" of "Planet X" increase. But when 2012 comes and goes with no "planet", then what?

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 09/29/2010 09:07 PM
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Average IQ of the ning takes another dive:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1114553


From the quoted link above.....

....More proof: When the moon is full or near full look at the man-in-the-moon face around 11:00 p.m. The face will probably look normal then, like a man's face cocked slightly to his right.

Then look at the moon again in the morning. Most of the time now the face will have tilted at least 90 degrees! This is also not possible, normally, as is explained in ZetaTalk (the only site that does explain why the moon is all crazy). The most the moon face used to tip in one night was 7 degrees. I have seen it tip almost upside down a few times too.


It is very difficult not to laugh uncontrollably at these zidiots at the best of times.

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Wait a minute, I thought the zetas were "hologramming" everything so these objects appear where they're supposed to be, so how are people observing them in the wrong place? Did they not read all the zeta stuff?




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Wait a minute, I thought the zetas were "hologramming" everything so these objects appear where they're supposed to be, so how are people observing them in the wrong place? Did they not read all the zeta stuff?




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Nancy is probably now realizing her mistake in tying herself to the ning where she cannot completely control the message. If she has followers as stupid as these, it makes her look just as foolish.
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Wait a minute, I thought the zetas were "hologramming" everything so these objects appear where they're supposed to be, so how are people observing them in the wrong place? Did they not read all the zeta stuff?




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They only move stuff when there is danger of real panic - which would be the case of thousands or millions were to suddenly "agree" that something was seriously amiss. If only a few hundred noticed, there is no danger of any "mass" awakening.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Wait a minute, I thought the zetas were "hologramming" everything so these objects appear where they're supposed to be, so how are people observing them in the wrong place? Did they not read all the zeta stuff?




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I think most of us here gave up waiting for Nancy LIEDer and her zetaculties to logically and adequately answer this glaring contradiction.
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Wait a minute, I thought the zetas were "hologramming" everything so these objects appear where they're supposed to be, so how are people observing them in the wrong place? Did they not read all the zeta stuff?




drunk


They only move stuff when there is danger of real panic - which would be the case of thousands or millions were to suddenly "agree" that something was seriously amiss. If only a few hundred noticed, there is no danger of any "mass" awakening.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



But everyone can see the moon. What would be an example of something that only a few would notice?
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They only move stuff when there is danger of real panic - which would be the case of thousands or millions were to suddenly "agree" that something was seriously amiss. If only a few hundred noticed, there is no danger of any "mass" awakening.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


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They only move stuff when there is danger of real panic - which would be the case of thousands or millions were to suddenly "agree" that something was seriously amiss. If only a few hundred noticed, there is no danger of any "mass" awakening.
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Amazing that scientists can find planets so far away but can't see some "rogue planet" four times bigger than Venus wandering around the inner solar system.

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Nancy is probably now realizing her mistake in tying herself to the ning where she cannot completely control the message. If she has followers as stupid as these, it makes her look just as foolish.
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Good observation.

The odds are highly favourable, I would suggest, that Ms LIEDer will contemplate relocation back to the GLP forum just to be around logical thinking people such as the debunkers. Nancy's Batshit Craziness is seemingly less effective when surrounded by those ning woowoos. tlr4 At least here at GLP some of her few followers were just this side of the "Sanity Border". Whereas at the Poleshit Ning her followers have really crossed over into Dumbfuckistan!!

PS: Which begs the question, Melfy, why the freaken heck haven't you emigrated over to the ning to be with your fellow citizens?
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Nancy is probably now realizing her mistake in tying herself to the ning where she cannot completely control the message. If she has followers as stupid as these, it makes her look just as foolish.


Good observation.

The odds are highly favourable, I would suggest, that Ms LIEDer will contemplate relocation back to the GLP forum just to be around logical thinking people such as the debunkers. Nancy's Batshit Craziness is seemingly less effective when surrounded by those ning woowoos. :tlr4: At least here at GLP some of her few followers were just this side of the "Sanity Border". Whereas at the Poleshit Ning her followers have really crossed over into Dumbfuckistan!!

PS: Which begs the question, Melfy, why the freaken heck haven't you emigrated over to the ning to be with your fellow citizens?
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Probably because they have immigration quotas to prevent there being too much stupid being concentrated in any one place.

Although I believe they reached the point of no return a while ago.
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Nancy is probably now realizing her mistake in tying herself to the ning where she cannot completely control the message. If she has followers as stupid as these, it makes her look just as foolish.


Good observation.

The odds are highly favourable, I would suggest, that Ms LIEDer will contemplate relocation back to the GLP forum just to be around logical thinking people such as the debunkers. Nancy's Batshit Craziness is seemingly less effective when surrounded by those ning woowoos. tlr4 At least here at GLP some of her few followers were just this side of the "Sanity Border". Whereas at the Poleshit Ning her followers have really crossed over into Dumbfuckistan!!

PS: Which begs the question, Melfy, why the freaken heck haven't you emigrated over to the ning to be with your fellow citizens?
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger



Because even the ningtards don't want a known liar and asshole like melfy/bridget contaminating their perfect little delusion.
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They only move stuff when there is danger of real panic - which would be the case of thousands or millions were to suddenly "agree" that something was seriously amiss. If only a few hundred noticed, there is no danger of any "mass" awakening.
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You mean like anyone who owns a telescope anywhere in the world?
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They only move stuff when there is danger of real panic - which would be the case of thousands or millions were to suddenly "agree" that something was seriously amiss. If only a few hundred noticed, there is no danger of any "mass" awakening.


You mean like anyone who owns a telescope anywhere in the world?
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Millions of people have heard of Nancy/ZetaTalk, such is the power of the web. It's just that 99.9999% of them have decided she is a loony-tunes wannabe cult leader (amongst many similar types online) with nothing of any value to say.

Only a rump of the most terminally stupid take her seriously.
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Just got this in an email:

Planet X Pending Passage Update by Sheldan Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation

6 Cimi, 4 Tzotz, 7 Eb

 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Is this supposed to be a Mayan Calendar date? Obviously whoever came up with this pulled it out of their ass. Let me explain.

The first part of this supposed date is 6 Cimi, which is the name of the day. This date name repeats every 260 days.

The second is 4 Zodz, not Tzotz, and it means "bat". It is the name of one of the series of 20 days, or "months" which represent the solar cycle, and the number 4 indicates that this particular day named 6 cimi is the 5th day of the series Zodz(the first day is counted as "0" - I know this concept is confusing to zetatards). 4 Zodz corresponds to Sept.25th on the solar calendar. A day named 6 Cimi 4 Zodz can only occur once every 52 years, and the next time it will happen is in 2032, in a year called 8 Akbal. The other part of this bogus date is 7 eb, which is also the name of a day, and it would be like saying Tuesday Sept.25th on a Friday. 7 eb 4 zodz can simply never occur, because days named eb can only occur on days 0, 5, 10 or 15 of any given series. It's like saying June 31st. It just can't happen. Assholes like whoever came up with this bullshit count on the fact that most people are as ignorant as they are about the Mayan Calendar, and that lots of people will willingly believe it as if it were true and will ask for no explanations.
Dratzo! (Sirian for Beloved Souls!) We come again with much to discuss with you. The past month has been filled with concessions and rebukes from the dark cabal! Every day we come together as a committee with our Earth allies and the top leaders of this cabal somewhere on your globe. These meetings are part of a procedure set up by Heaven. The dark ones know by now of the inevitability of their downfall, yet they persist in falsifications and in seeking to delay even further what needs to be done. We have therefore embarked on a series of projects designed to transform these stalemates into a desired outcome. So far we have been able to get a large majority of what is required signed off on. The rest will be done when we have assisted in driving these dark ones from power. The key remains the dark minions' wealth and power. We are presently wrapping up an operation that denies them the ability to secure their wealth. This greatly troubles them and permits us to force numerous concessions out of them. This is leading to a way to remove them from power.

Our unwavering perseverance in these matters is fragmenting the cabal into many smaller groups, each of which secretly plots against the others. Many individuals have abruptly disappeared, leaving a power vacuum behind in the main group. Strife, stratagems, and subplots abound! What was once a unified block is now crumbling into ever-smaller factions. The nemesis for them all is lack of money. These groups are in bankruptcy and unable to prevent this fact from becoming public. We expect announcements to this effect to begin seeping into the mass media any day now, and many on the Internet who are in the know about these matters have been forecasting this over the last few months. When these facts become public and are admitted by your governments, the global corporate state will rapidly disintegrate. As this happens, those agreements already signed can come into effect as these documents constitute the basis for the new temporary regimes. It is these regimes that are to return your world to Common Law and global prosperity.

These points of order are intended to bring the present de facto corporate regimes to their knees by the use of bankruptcy and denial of funds. These regimes in the past have stolen literally trillions of dollars from their citizens! The dark cabal was working toward making each of you first into chattel, and then into outright slaves of the corporate state. The Anunnaki plan was to progress from subtle forms of control to a full-blown holocaust of depopulation, as too many people create a level of pollution that is unacceptable to them. Their solution was to deny you access to healthy food and supplements and substitute these with a wholly toxic food chain. They expected this to cause massive pandemics designed to kill billions. These ones have no use for the average citizens of Mother Earth; to them you are a waste of space and resources, and better off dead. This belief is common among those who make up this global cabal, but it flies in the face of a simple, divine truth: all life is precious! We have watched in horror from above as their secret councils discuss such issues.

As the dark approaches its defeat, we must discuss with you what is to happen. Once in power, the new regimes will take into custody the members of the previous dark governments. This will free up the 'airwaves', allowing a true and open dissemination of information concerning all aspects of the incoming new reality: general debt forgiveness; distribution of tax refunds; delivery of prosperity funds; new monetary system; creation of global peace and nuclear disarmament. After these are thoroughly explained to you, the subject of us, the Galactic Federation, must be discussed. Indeed, the end of the 'UFO' cover-up is a major issue all by itself. We will be introduced alongside the revelation of a whole slew of secret technology. As you can see, a great deal of information is to be released to you in a relatively short period. Also, most of those who were incarcerated for non-violent crimes are to be released after a review of their cases. Lawyers will be retrained and the entire court system overhauled.

The new institutions will be people-oriented. At present, governments, banks, places of work etc., are all geared toward serving the wealthy and powerful, as they have been for centuries. The daunting task of our Earth allies is to turn this attitude on its head and transform the dismissive indifference of your social institutions. We have talked long and hard with our Earth allies on this one subject alone. Special transitional organizations are needed in order to move from authoritarian and hierarchical institutions to decentralized and people-friendly ones. Some of your more forward-thinking corporations have adopted this approach, and this is a good start. However, we favor a complete reorganization of governance along these lines. The average citizen must be able to provide input and, where appropriate, be able to monitor and oversee the changes agreed to. This can be a start for employing fluid group dynamics.

Interaction between government, institutions, and citizens needs to move onto a decentralized footing. Interpersonal communication is set in general to change immensely. Not only does your environment rely heavily on electronics and the Internet, but once abundance sets in, this too will change the way you relate to each other. Further, you are in the midst of a huge shift in consciousness. To top it all, we are about to be added to the mix, and this will create something unique. This coming environment is utterly different from your present one. Moreover, it will be based on one simple fact: personal sovereignty, with full unalienable rights. These various rights cannot be abridged! What we are asking our Earth allies to do is simply to make your organizations user-friendly and environmentally responsible. In a nutshell, the new regimes are to change how governments, banks, and corporations respond to you.

The goal is to create a prosperous, informed, and concerned citizenry. This diversity can solve any problem that comes up. You are to receive great wealth, astonishing technology, and a super-abundance of information. Plus, you are approaching the point of becoming fully conscious! We are here to monitor this and to mentor you when needed; however, the bulk of the responsibility stays with you. Each of you possesses innate wisdom and Heaven's blessings. Your future is bright and the sky is literally the limit! You have enormous resources and a living planet to protect. Included in this is the vast realm of Inner Earth. The Agarthans are part of your world, and like you, they have a huge reservoir of wisdom. Come together to make a wondrous new reality!

What lies ahead of you are the first challenges of your new star-nation! We know that you are destined to succeed in all that you do. You are a great people! 900,000 years ago, Heaven sent the best and brightest of fifty human star-nations to Gaia. Your ancestors were then co-opted by the Atlantean elites and fell into limited consciousness. For 13 millennia you suffered, learned, and survived. Now the time comes for you to take up the mental cudgels of your frustration and transform them into a glorious and merciful Love that will be the cornerstone of your transformation into full consciousness. Alongside the Agarthans, we await the moment to make ourselves known to you. The magic instant will be when you let go of your past and take on the mantel of who you really are!

Today you stand on the precipice of a new reality! This new world will be a fully-conscious one, filled with an ongoing series of wonders you can barely at present conceive of. There is an entire solar system to be readied for your guardianship and your exhilarating destiny! Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
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Absolute drivel, and I am disgusted and offended that the ignorant insist on distorting the ancient knowledge of a noble people to perpetuate crap.

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Wait a minute, I thought the zetas were "hologramming" everything so these objects appear where they're supposed to be, so how are people observing them in the wrong place? Did they not read all the zeta stuff?




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They only move stuff when there is danger of real panic - which would be the case of thousands or millions were to suddenly "agree" that something was seriously amiss. If only a few hundred noticed, there is no danger of any "mass" awakening.



But everyone can see the moon. What would be an example of something that only a few would notice?
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It's true that everyone can "see" the moon, but how many REALLY NOTICE it?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Nancy is probably now realizing her mistake in tying herself to the ning where she cannot completely control the message. If she has followers as stupid as these, it makes her look just as foolish.


Good observation.

The odds are highly favourable, I would suggest, that Ms LIEDer will contemplate relocation back to the GLP forum just to be around logical thinking people such as the debunkers. Nancy's Batshit Craziness is seemingly less effective when surrounded by those ning woowoos. tlr4 At least here at GLP some of her few followers were just this side of the "Sanity Border". Whereas at the Poleshit Ning her followers have really crossed over into Dumbfuckistan!!

PS: Which begs the question, Melfy, why the freaken heck haven't you emigrated over to the ning to be with your fellow citizens?



Because even the ningtards don't want a known liar and asshole like melfy/bridget contaminating their perfect little delusion.
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So in other words, I'm not "perfectly" deluded?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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It's true that everyone can "see" the moon, but how many REALLY NOTICE it?
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Based on the responses on the ning, apparently none of them.
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It's true that everyone can "see" the moon, but how many REALLY NOTICE it?

Based on the responses on the ning, apparently none of them.
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I have must have struck a nerve with the ningnuts, they deleted their posting!
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I have must have struck a nerve with the ningnuts, they deleted their posting!
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