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I knew you all would spend ten pages harping on this. I wanted the conversation to wrap around the radio interview.
 Quoting: Looky


Looky Here, you are welcome here in our debunkers thread. We DO NOT censor postings here. As far as Nancy's recent radio interview goes there is nothing new there that we haven't already heard. Same old crapola....different day....that's all.
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Pity I missed it.

Did they really take it down, so it can't be replayed?
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Pity I missed it.

Did they really take it down, so it can't be replayed?
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So they said, but you have to be a member to access the archives, so I don't know for sure.
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Did Nancy just say the Zeta's are Democrats...... wtf

Yep ! She TOTALLY thinks Obama is a cool bro ... starchild and all, best president ever. No kidding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1122597

That's so... provincial.


It is just an immature attack.
 Quoting: Looky

No, it isn't.

As you can see I am more than tolerant.
 Quoting: Looky

No, you're not.

I would not have started this thread with out the ban powers.
 Quoting: Looky

How cowardly.

So, which drawer were you dragged out?
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The dog is relevant because it shows exactly to what lengths Nancy will go to 1)do crazy shit and encourage others to do the same in the name of her imaginary planet: and 2) change her story to cover her own gaffes, never admitting her mistakes and ignoring evidence like written word with time stamp or audio recorded from live radio shows.

But like a good lookyloo, Looky would rather we didn`t remember such things and I am guessing the price of a membership is worth it to make him feel special and powerful like his LIEder.

I knew you all would spend ten pages harping on this. I wanted the conversation to wrap around the radio interview.
 Quoting: Looky


Nancy hasn't produced anything but bullshit for over 15 years. There is nothing new in her spiel. If you fall for it you are an idiot.
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The dog is relevant because it shows exactly to what lengths Nancy will go to 1)do crazy shit and encourage others to do the same in the name of her imaginary planet: and 2) change her story to cover her own gaffes, never admitting her mistakes and ignoring evidence like written word with time stamp or audio recorded from live radio shows.

But like a good lookyloo, Looky would rather we didn`t remember such things and I am guessing the price of a membership is worth it to make him feel special and powerful like his LIEder.

I knew you all would spend ten pages harping on this. I wanted the conversation to wrap around the radio interview.


Nancy hasn't produced anything but bullshit for over 15 years. There is nothing new in her spiel. If you fall for it you are an idiot.
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>> If you fall for it you are an idiot.

That's a bit of an "extreme" attitude.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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>> If you fall for it you are an idiot.

That's a bit of an "extreme" attitude.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Nope. Nothing "extreme" about it at all, Melfy.

.....now if you want some "extremeness" in attitude, Melfster, then maybe this is what you are looky for...... HEY
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So no, Max, it really doesn't take much. Getting horsehair candles is the hardest part, really.

How do you accomplish the same feat?
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Find yourself an old horsehair stuffed couch, enough to last several life times.
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No puppy postings.
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She is easily agitated and it's probably because she's too ignorant to even begin to understand basic astronomy.

If she was really interested in space, zetas, earth and moon wobbles, etc. she would at least read some books! I think she's too lazy to try very hard because the technical terms and explanations go way over her head and she just can't be bothered. It would be like me trying to channel Chinese when I don't even know how to write their alphabet. What comes out would be all garbled. And that's giving her the benefit of the doubt that she's channeling at all. Why don't ETs pick someone just a little more versed in astronomy to contact? Like me, FFS!

I predict the Michigan crack will be blamed on Planet X shortly.
 Quoting: Catseye


too tempting, so will reply to this one.

debunkers claim that Nancy's material was "plagiarized" from numerous other sources, and now "she would at least read some books!". Inconsistent, on your part.

"Why don't ETs pick someone just a little more versed in astronomy to contact?"
who told you (and why do you beleieve it) that modern astronomy is proper human understanding of the Universe?
why would ET's choose someone versed in erroneous belief system?

[most discoveries are made by illiterates - they just dont realize that something is "impossible". Sorry, but Universe does NOT operate according to man's laws of physics].

"I predict the Michigan crack will be blamed on Planet X shortly."
now, WHY are you picking THIS particular accident?
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Several debunkers, myself included did point out to her that she obviously didn't know how to read coordinates, a legitimate and pertinent observation, but those who dared say it were called paid shills, were the targets of personal attacks and some felt the heavy handed ban hammer because of it. Later, Nancy herself had to admit that she didn't understand that RA and Dec were not the same thing as Alt and Azimuth. Did she apologize? Did she admit that maybe we weren't paid shills after all, just people that knew more than her about the subject? No, of course she didn't. This is just one example of how debunkers raised valid points. If it looked like we flooded the board with comments that made her look bad, I would say it's probably because everything Nancy wrote was wrong and begged for someone to correct her ignorance.

Not only did she NOT apologize, she didn't take responsibility for it either. She blamed it on the "technology" used and said, again, that stuff gets lost in translation. Utter bullshit because she could have easily looked it up for years instead of ignoring what others were trying to tell her. But then, if you look at all the mistakes and errors she's made over the years, she never takes responsibility for it. She's always blaming someone or something else. What are some other examples? For starters, the great "white lie." It should have been obvious even to Nancy that the "pole shift" wasn't going to happen in 2003 because "Planet X" wasn't, and hadn't been, undeniable in the sky as the "Zetas" claimed it would be. In fact, they said "Planet X" would be quite obvious for something like 7 weeks before the actual shift...with people walking around numb with shock. That didn't happen. Nor were there any signs that the government was about to implement Marshal Law. There were no military vehicles set up in strategic locations to block access to freeways, railroad stations or airports. No reserve or National Guard personnel had been called up to active duty...other than those sent to Iraq. In fact, because of the Iraq invasion, the U.S. government didn't have the manpower or equipment to enforce Marshal Law. They wouldn't have been able to do it even if the U.S. hadn't invaded. How would the military be able to control the millions of people that would be trying to flee? Yeah, we know how Nancy claims fear would have kept them in line. Fear of what? Being shot and killed? Yeah, sure. Why would I fear that when I knew I was likely going to die anyway because of some "pole shift" caused by some "rogue planet" that was bearing down on Earth? And with millions of people rushing these soldiers, how many people do you think they'd be able to take out before they were overpowered? Besides, the "Zetas" said that because of Nancy's efforts, the U.S. government would not succeed with their plans. Local law enforcement and military personnel would allow people to flee. So, even though none of the precursor events were happening, Nancy continued to insist that "Planet X" was here and that the "pole shift" was going to happen. When it didn't, did she admit she was wrong? No. Instead, she blamed it all on the "Zetas" for lying to her...when she could have seen they were lying to her if she had just looked around her.

Absolutely correct. I always thought that if a government wanted to declare martial law, the best way to accomplish it is making the people think they are in imminent and grave danger. If there was a planet x looming nearby, a control freak government would likely use it to scare the people into submission, people would in general fall into step "for their own good" and obey the government. Hiding planet x from the general public would not serve any purpose whatsoever. Not telling anyone would be the best way to ensure panic and chaos once it was impossible to hide. But of course Nancy's reasoning skills have always been less than adequate. Of course it's all bullshit. Planet x should have been undeniably in the skies in 2003. It wasn't and still isn't. The government still has not declared martial law, life goes on pretty much as usual. Planet X still a no show. Nancy still crazy and frumpier than ever.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


"Hiding planet x from the general public would not serve any purpose whatsoever. "

of course it does. they would have installed a global dictatorship long ago, if they had a feasible excuse. but what would be the point of declaring Martial law well before the PX Passage, say in 1983? and how to maintain it all this time?

people, masses, would certainly become rebellious and by their sheer numbers would certainly eventually decapitate such junta and slaughter its members.

so, theres no logic in trunpeting it ahead of the time.

there is a perfect logic in wanting to declare it when, as you say, "it is no longer possible to deny".
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Apparently, Jeff Rense needed some comedy relief. ZM, as usual, fails to realize that just because she appears on a radio program doesn't mean they believe what she says. They simply find the topic interesting. And with 2012 approaching, it doesn't surprise me that there are more radio and TV shows talking about the different claims out there regarding the pending apocalypse. But I guarantee - once 2012 is gone without any earth shattering events, Nancy and all the other doomsayers will disappear in to obscurity.

As for ZM's claim about Nancy being on CNN...since we all know what soon means, it will NEVER happen. Unless it's a story about her being arrested for fraud.
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how can you GUARANTEE it? are you a God or what?
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All i said was that LIEDer is a delusional, senile, hate filled old woman who craves attention, and that a smart 12 year old could best her in a scientific debate.
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surely, 12 year old could be trained no worse than a German shepherd or a parakeet to repeat scientific babble.
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I didn't say a damned word about dogs, you clattering buttock.

You simply do not want to hear that LIEDer is a senile, delusional, hate filled old woman who craves attention.
 Quoting: The Commentator


no wonder, because it is not true!

he does world a service by preventing lies from being spread.
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Nancy hasn't produced anything but bullshit for over 15 years. There is nothing new in her spiel. If you fall for it you are an idiot.



>> If you fall for it you are an idiot.

That's a bit of an "extreme" attitude.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


It only seems extreme because YOU are one of those (very few) idiots!
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[most discoveries are made by illiterates - they just dont realize that something is "impossible". Sorry, but Universe does NOT operate according to man's laws of physics].
 Quoting: andrew


bsflag

Most scientific discoveries are made by scientists.

The Universe operates according to IT'S OWN laws. We just discover them by investigation. If you had any depth of understanding of science (which you clearly don't) you would know this and you wouldn't post such pathetic crap.
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I didn't say a damned word about dogs, you clattering buttock.

You simply do not want to hear that LIEDer is a senile, delusional, hate filled old woman who craves attention.


no wonder, because it is not true!


 Quoting: andrew


Yes it is. She is an increasingly senile and vituperative witch who is obsessed with her own aggrandizement and the promotion of her risible attempt to form a cult to worship her.

You have been taken in because you are an ignorant fool.
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I kind of see his point. He started a thread to state that Nancy was simply going to be on Jeff Rense. Nothing more. By the same token, I don't think bringing up the dog incident was wrong...although done the wrong way perhaps. Maybe if someone had said something like, "Okay, Nancy is on his show. If you listen, keep the following things in mind..." and then maybe listed a few of the more important things that she's done and/or gotten wrong. That way, anyone who hasn't ever heard of her before, would at least be aware and therefore not be completely taken in like some others have been in the past.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Thank for thinking this through.. even if we are of diffrent opinion about the dog issue. You are right if the posts had had a collection of issues with out the over played dog issue as the only reason for the post I would have left it .. well maybe.

Truthfully I thought it was cool that I could share something with glp that was interesting. I could give the inside scoop to an unannounced guest.
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I knew you all would spend ten pages harping on this. I wanted the conversation to wrap around the radio interview.


Looky Here, you are welcome here in our debunkers thread. We DO NOT censor postings here. As far as Nancy's recent radio interview goes there is nothing new there that we haven't already heard. Same old crapola....different day....that's all.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

Thanks.

I was impressed with the number of topics that Nancy covered.
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Pity I missed it.

Did they really take it down, so it can't be replayed?
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Yes, I have access to the archives and it was never posted.
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Did Nancy just say the Zeta's are Democrats...... wtf

Yep ! She TOTALLY thinks Obama is a cool bro ... starchild and all, best president ever. No kidding.

That's so... provincial.



It is just an immature attack.

No, it isn't.


As you can see I am more than tolerant.

No, you're not.


I would not have started this thread with out the ban powers.

How cowardly.

So, which drawer were you dragged out?
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The bottom one I am scared of heights.
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I didn't say a damned word about dogs, you clattering buttock.

You simply do not want to hear that LIEDer is a senile, delusional, hate filled old woman who craves attention.


no wonder, because it is not true!

he does world a service by preventing lies from being spread.
 Quoting: andrew

Thank you.
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Pity I missed it.

Did they really take it down, so it can't be replayed?

Yes, I have access to the archives and it was never posted.
 Quoting: Looky


damned

looks like he (Rense) is uncomfortable with her message
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Pity I missed it.

Did they really take it down, so it can't be replayed?

Yes, I have access to the archives and it was never posted.


damned

looks like he (Rense) is uncomfortable with her message
 Quoting: andrew

Seems he has no use for channelers.
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Pity I missed it.

Did they really take it down, so it can't be replayed?

Yes, I have access to the archives and it was never posted.


damned

looks like he (Rense) is uncomfortable with her message

Seems he has no use for channelers.
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Nobody with any sense has.
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Pity I missed it.

Did they really take it down, so it can't be replayed?

Yes, I have access to the archives and it was never posted.

damned

looks like he (Rense) is uncomfortable with her message

Seems he has no use for channelers.


Nobody with any sense has.
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no. everyone except YOU has.
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"Why don't ETs pick someone just a little more versed in astronomy to contact?"
who told you (and why do you beleieve it) that modern astronomy is proper human understanding of the Universe?
why would ET's choose someone versed in erroneous belief system?

 Quoting: andrew


Erroneous beliefs like that Earth is orbiting the Sun?

Erroneous beliefs like what constitutes noise in a CCD image?

Erroneous beliefs like what RA means?

Erroneous beliefs like that magnitude 10-11 is not the same as mag 18-20?

Erroneous beliefs like where the Sun and Moon are supposed to be in the sky?

Erroneous beliefs like what the term libration means?



Nancy has been wrong on all of the above, but you are welcome to explain how she is not, if that is what you believe.
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"Hiding planet x from the general public would not serve any purpose whatsoever. "

of course it does. they would have installed a global dictatorship long ago, if they had a feasible excuse. but what would be the point of declaring Martial law well before the PX Passage, say in 1983? and how to maintain it all this time?

people, masses, would certainly become rebellious and by their sheer numbers would certainly eventually decapitate such junta and slaughter its members.

so, theres no logic in trunpeting it ahead of the time.

there is a perfect logic in wanting to declare it when, as you say, "it is no longer possible to deny".
 Quoting: andrew


How do you suppose a large planet right in the inner Solar System could be hidden from the world's astronomers?
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how can you GUARANTEE it? are you a God or what?
 Quoting: andrew


Look at history.

BTW, how can you keep saying "Planet X" is coming based on ancient writings and what Nancy says considering that said "planet" consistently fails to show up and nothing Nancy predicted has come true?
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[most discoveries are made by illiterates - they just dont realize that something is "impossible". Sorry, but Universe does NOT operate according to man's laws of physics].
 Quoting: andrew


You really are stupid. Humans don't make the laws of physics. Newton didn't propose gravity and the universe simply obeyed. These "laws" were always there. Humans simply observed them and wrote about it. Maybe if you ventured out of your room more often you would learn something.
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