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NINE days from the TIPPING POINT. Just keep things in TRUE perspective!!


Thank you for reminding us that in NINE days you'll have a failure on your hands...that's definitely keeping in TRUE perspective.
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so what is NOT going to happen in nine days? LOL!
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Exactly. If the "Zetas" were to STOP making things look normal there wouldn't be a damn thing the "elite" could do to cover it up. They wouldn't be able to explain it away. There would be no excuses. What purpose does the "element of doubt" serve other than to give Nancy a loophole or excuse to keep falling back on when nothing happens? It makes absolutely no sense. "We, the great 'Zetas' have come all this way to tell you about your impending doom from a 'pole shift' caused by the passage of 'Planet X.' We won't prove what we're saying is true. Instead, we're going to make things look normal so there's an element of doubt about what we say. Basically, if you choose to believe us, you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying."


>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!
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Maybe you're willing to give up 20 years of your life following a delusion and trying to take others with you. Fortunately, most of us value our life and live it to the fullest come what may. I am glad I haven't spent the last 20 years hiding under my bed waiting for bad things to happen.
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The only fans you have are the ceiling fan and the bathroom fan, and they probably wish they could rip themselves from the roof and run away too LOL
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rofl Now that was funny!!!!

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Um, 2015?. Still trying to push out the date, eh?

Sorry, 1/1/2012 is your chosen fail date, no point you trying to weasel out of it now.
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Exactly. If the "Zetas" were to STOP making things look normal there wouldn't be a damn thing the "elite" could do to cover it up. They wouldn't be able to explain it away. There would be no excuses. What purpose does the "element of doubt" serve other than to give Nancy a loophole or excuse to keep falling back on when nothing happens? It makes absolutely no sense. "We, the great 'Zetas' have come all this way to tell you about your impending doom from a 'pole shift' caused by the passage of 'Planet X.' We won't prove what we're saying is true. Instead, we're going to make things look normal so there's an element of doubt about what we say. Basically, if you choose to believe us, you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying."


>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


No harm?? Freestore lost his family over it, you self-centered goon!
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Exactly. If the "Zetas" were to STOP making things look normal there wouldn't be a damn thing the "elite" could do to cover it up. They wouldn't be able to explain it away. There would be no excuses. What purpose does the "element of doubt" serve other than to give Nancy a loophole or excuse to keep falling back on when nothing happens? It makes absolutely no sense. "We, the great 'Zetas' have come all this way to tell you about your impending doom from a 'pole shift' caused by the passage of 'Planet X.' We won't prove what we're saying is true. Instead, we're going to make things look normal so there's an element of doubt about what we say. Basically, if you choose to believe us, you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying."


>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!

No harm?? Freestore lost his family over it, you self-centered goon!
 Quoting: Menow 1119283


Freestore was an unfortunate victim of the "White Lie" - a VERY regrettable but necessary maneuver. The Zetas have been FORCED by their Global Elite adversaries into certain very difficult and highly unfortunate strategies - where some collateral damage is regrettably unavoidable. Better sometimes to blow the bridge than lose the town.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


2012_V

PS: Melfy may I take this opportunity to remind you that we will hold Ms LIEDer to her vehemently claimed prediction that her doomsday events would occur well before the year 2012. Now seeing that Ms LIEDer has been wrong on several occasions, in specific reference to "her" geographical poleshift claims, there has to be a FINAL reference point to this whole pathetic zetababble saga. For some posters that remain here on our debunkers thread it will be the beginning of the year 2012. Personally I am willing to extend my involvement here until the beginning of 2013. Now don't get me wrong here because as far as I am concerned 2003/2004 definitely PROVED that Nancy LIEDer and her zetacult crap was nothing more than the ramblings of a lunatic. There has to come a time when Ms LIEDer is NO LONGER paid any attention to....and for me that sign post is January 2013.

Therefore I find it pertinent to the "focus" of our thread here that any future reference, made by you zetaculties, to the year 2015 now being a probable geographical poleshift prediction date will be removed from this thread.

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Exactly. If the "Zetas" were to STOP making things look normal there wouldn't be a damn thing the "elite" could do to cover it up. They wouldn't be able to explain it away. There would be no excuses. What purpose does the "element of doubt" serve other than to give Nancy a loophole or excuse to keep falling back on when nothing happens? It makes absolutely no sense. "We, the great 'Zetas' have come all this way to tell you about your impending doom from a 'pole shift' caused by the passage of 'Planet X.' We won't prove what we're saying is true. Instead, we're going to make things look normal so there's an element of doubt about what we say. Basically, if you choose to believe us, you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying."


>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!

No harm?? Freestore lost his family over it, you self-centered goon!


Freestore was an unfortunate victim of the "White Lie" - a VERY regrettable but necessary maneuver. The Zetas have been FORCED by their Global Elite adversaries into certain very difficult and highly unfortunate strategies - where some collateral damage is regrettably unavoidable. Better sometimes to blow the bridge than lose the town.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Adversaries? "Zetas" are supporting the coverup! What is adversarial about that?
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No harm?? Freestore lost his family over it, you self-centered goon!
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The poster zetamax has seemingly become very ARROGANT, and beyond measure of late, here on OUR debunkers thread.

Zetamax is ALWAYS welcome to participate here but if the FOOL thinks that I will let his ramblings go unabated as if he is participating on a Nancy LIEDer chat thread or at the Poleshit ningy website...then he is very much mistaken.

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We now have 2000 votes ... 4 stars, not bad.
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>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!


2012_V

PS: Melfy may I take this opportunity to remind you that we will hold Ms LIEDer to her vehemently claimed prediction that her doomsday events would occur well before the year 2012. Now seeing that Ms LIEDer has been wrong on several occasions, in specific reference to "her" geographical poleshift claims, there has to be a FINAL reference point to this whole pathetic zetababble saga. For some posters that remain here on our debunkers thread it will be the beginning of the year 2012. Personally I am willing to extend my involvement here until the beginning of 2013. Now don't get me wrong here because as far as I am concerned 2003/2004 definitely PROVED that Nancy LIEDer and her zetacult crap was nothing more than the ramblings of a lunatic. There has to come a time when Ms LIEDer is NO LONGER paid any attention to....and for me that sign post is January 2013.

Therefore I find it pertinent to the "focus" of our thread here that any future reference, made by you zetaculties, to the year 2015 now being a probable geographical poleshift prediction date will be removed from this thread.

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"2015" is used only because by that date there will be no 'element of doubt' remaining.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 10/30/2010 06:00 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Exactly. If the "Zetas" were to STOP making things look normal there wouldn't be a damn thing the "elite" could do to cover it up. They wouldn't be able to explain it away. There would be no excuses. What purpose does the "element of doubt" serve other than to give Nancy a loophole or excuse to keep falling back on when nothing happens? It makes absolutely no sense. "We, the great 'Zetas' have come all this way to tell you about your impending doom from a 'pole shift' caused by the passage of 'Planet X.' We won't prove what we're saying is true. Instead, we're going to make things look normal so there's an element of doubt about what we say. Basically, if you choose to believe us, you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying."


>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!

No harm?? Freestore lost his family over it, you self-centered goon!


Freestore was an unfortunate victim of the "White Lie" - a VERY regrettable but necessary maneuver. The Zetas have been FORCED by their Global Elite adversaries into certain very difficult and highly unfortunate strategies - where some collateral damage is regrettably unavoidable. Better sometimes to blow the bridge than lose the town.


Adversaries? "Zetas" are supporting the coverup! What is adversarial about that?
 Quoting: Menow 1119283


Depends on how you use the word "support".

It could be said that the British "supported" Hitler and the Germans by evacuating their troops from Dunkirk.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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I haven't looked at this thread in 2 years. I see zetamax et al are still trolling you all hard.

Still it looks like your all having fun (I guess....)


I propose in 2012 you all start a new thread to keep you occupied.

Something along the lines
"Unicorns Exist and grant wishes!"

Then you can all pick a side and argue back and forth for 800 pages.

It will be just as constructive (that is not at all)

GOOD LUCK!
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I haven't looked at this thread in 2 years. I see zetamax et al are still trolling you all hard.

Still it looks like your all having fun (I guess....)


I propose in 2012 you all start a new thread to keep you occupied.

Something along the lines
"Unicorns Exist and grant wishes!"

Then you can all pick a side and argue back and forth for 800 pages.

It will be just as constructive (that is not at all)

GOOD LUCK!
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You sir ... ARE NOT AMUSING!!!

BEWARE OF THE TIPPING POINT!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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ZetaMax
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Look what I found. Somebody did the math for the acceleration during Nancy's claimed 90 degree shift in an hour. Time needed for accell/decell means that the peak speed would be over 10,000mph! What kind of wind would THAT cause?! And Nancy has this posted on her own site!

[link to www.zetatalk3.com]

The pole shift is going to get us going pretty fast as it shifts. Could be of the order of magnitude of 12 times the normal rotational speed of the planet. This can be determined from the size of the planet and the Zetas 1 hr or less for the shift. Depending on how fast the deceleration takes place, the sliding force on a body could get up to 9 or more times the person’s own weight (9 G). High winds during the polar shift will be caused by the mass of atmosphere resisting motion and sloshing just as what will happen with the oceans.
Determination of estimated shift maximum surface speed, and possible deceleration amplitudes as the shift stops. Using some high school physics formulas and concepts: Observable data: At the equator, the Earth rotates at a speed of 1,040 mph or 0.29 miles per second (1,670 km/h, 0.46 km/s). (see fttp://ftp.sunspot.noao.edu/PR/answerbook/motion.html). For normal earth rotation the surface speed at a 45 degrees latitude would be 1040*cos(45) = 1040*.707 = 735 miles per hour. The surface speed at the poles is 0 miles per hour. These same concepts would apply during the rotational motion of the polar shift.
The equatorial radius is about 6.378 million meters. Thus the perimeter is (2*3.14*6.378*10^6) = 40,000 KM or 24,800 miles. (1KM = .621 Miles) See [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Analysis: S(distance) =(1/2)a(acceleration) times t^2(time of displacement) Solving this for acceleration we have: a = 2s/t^2 To find the number of "G" one would divide this by g = acceleration of gravity 32 ft/sec^2.
Assume the polar shift of the earth would cause a uniform acceleration up to a maximum speed and then immediately start deceleration to zero for a total rotation of say one quarter turn or 90 degrees. Duration to be one hour. The distance along the earth surface for half of this or acceleration up to a minimum speed would be a 1/8 revolution. The perimeters of the earth at the equator is about 24,800 miles or 40,000 meters. Thus "s" above = 1/8*24,800 miles = 3,100 miles. The amount of "a" acceleration sustained for a uniform ramp up for 30 min would be about = (2*3100mile*5280ft/mile)/((30min*60sec/min)^2) = 10 ft/sec^2 or dividing by g gives .31 G.
V(final velocity) = a (acceleration) times t (time for displacement) (assuming initial velocity is zero) v = at = (10 ft/sec^2)*(30min*60sec/min) = 18,000 ft/sec = (18,000*.681) miles/hr = 12,200 miles/hr. Note: this is about 12 times the normal surface rotational speed at the equator. Suppose the polar shifts surface velocity of 12,200 miles/hr (18,000 ft/sec) comes to a stop in 3 minutes. What will the deceleration be?
a(acceleration) = v(velocity) / t(time of displacement)
a = (18,000 ft/sec)/(3 min * 60 sec/min) = 100 ft/sec^2
dividing by g gives 3.1 G of deceleration
As a worst case suppose the polar shifts surface velocity of 12,200 miles/hr (18,000 ft/sec) comes to a stop in 1 minutes. What will the deceleration be?
a(acceleration) = v(velocity) / t(time of displacement)
a = (18,000 ft/sec)/(1 min * 60 sec/min) = 300 ft/sec^2
dividing by g gives 9.4 G of deceleration.
Now suppose a car traveling 20 miles/hr hits a barrier and stops in 2 ft. Assuming uniform deceleration. What deceleration does the car receive? With no seat belt a friend of mine hit his head on the windshield and broke the glass during such a crash.
a = (v^2)/2s = (20*5280ft/3600sec)^2/2*2 = 215 ft/sec2 or 6.7 G force
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Exactly. If the "Zetas" were to STOP making things look normal there wouldn't be a damn thing the "elite" could do to cover it up. They wouldn't be able to explain it away. There would be no excuses. What purpose does the "element of doubt" serve other than to give Nancy a loophole or excuse to keep falling back on when nothing happens? It makes absolutely no sense. "We, the great 'Zetas' have come all this way to tell you about your impending doom from a 'pole shift' caused by the passage of 'Planet X.' We won't prove what we're saying is true. Instead, we're going to make things look normal so there's an element of doubt about what we say. Basically, if you choose to believe us, you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying."


>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!

No harm?? Freestore lost his family over it, you self-centered goon!


Freestore was an unfortunate victim of the "White Lie" - a VERY regrettable but necessary maneuver. The Zetas have been FORCED by their Global Elite adversaries into certain very difficult and highly unfortunate strategies - where some collateral damage is regrettably unavoidable. Better sometimes to blow the bridge than lose the town.


Adversaries? "Zetas" are supporting the coverup! What is adversarial about that?


Depends on how you use the word "support".

It could be said that the British "supported" Hitler and the Germans by evacuating their troops from Dunkirk.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


I use the word "support" in a rational way, as in that the "Zetas" are covering up the existence of PX(alleged). You are using it in an irrational way. What a surprise.
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Exactly. If the "Zetas" were to STOP making things look normal there wouldn't be a damn thing the "elite" could do to cover it up. They wouldn't be able to explain it away. There would be no excuses. What purpose does the "element of doubt" serve other than to give Nancy a loophole or excuse to keep falling back on when nothing happens? It makes absolutely no sense. "We, the great 'Zetas' have come all this way to tell you about your impending doom from a 'pole shift' caused by the passage of 'Planet X.' We won't prove what we're saying is true. Instead, we're going to make things look normal so there's an element of doubt about what we say. Basically, if you choose to believe us, you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying."


>> you'll be doing so simply out of faith that we aren't lying.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!

No harm?? Freestore lost his family over it, you self-centered goon!


Freestore was an unfortunate victim of the "White Lie" - a VERY regrettable but necessary maneuver. The Zetas have been FORCED by their Global Elite adversaries into certain very difficult and highly unfortunate strategies - where some collateral damage is regrettably unavoidable. Better sometimes to blow the bridge than lose the town.


Adversaries? "Zetas" are supporting the coverup! What is adversarial about that?


Depends on how you use the word "support".

It could be said that the British "supported" Hitler and the Germans by evacuating their troops from Dunkirk.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


By the way... I asked this: "What is adversarial about that?" Of course, you had no answer.
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Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!

Um, 2015?. Still trying to push out the date, eh?

Sorry, 1/1/2012 is your chosen fail date, no point you trying to weasel out of it now.

It's Nancy's too, so he's following her example by being a
weasel. What everyone knows is that she has made way too
many statements about 2012 being too far out for anyone to
believe any more of her excuses.

I never expected that steak dinner anyway.
/quote]

She also has made too many firm statemenst about the 7of10 for this year. Her ning is on pins and needles waiting for massive catastrophic events before the end of the year.
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Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!

Um, 2015?. Still trying to push out the date, eh?

Sorry, 1/1/2012 is your chosen fail date, no point you trying to weasel out of it now.

It's Nancy's too, so he's following her example by being a
weasel. What everyone knows is that she has made way too
many statements about 2012 being too far out for anyone to
believe any more of her excuses.

I never expected that steak dinner anyway.
/quote]

She also has made too many firm statemenst about the 7of10 for this year. Her ning is on pins and needles waiting for massive catastrophic events before the end of the year.
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If the TIPPING POINT lives up to its hype, then 7 of 10 might be a VERY "conservative" forecast!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


WRONG! First the "Zetas" were quite clear that 2003 was the year of the "pole shift." When that didn't happen, they said they would not give out dates but did say that 2012 was too far out. Even if we go by your 2015 bullshit, come 2015 you'll just push it back to 2020. Your master has taught you well.
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Freestore was an unfortunate victim of the "White Lie" - a VERY regrettable but necessary maneuver.
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BULLSHIT! If 2003 was a "white lie" why did the "Zetas" claim that all other dates were incorrect? Why did they state that they gave the date out because the U.S. and Indonesian governments would no longer succeed with their plans? That statement means that no "white lie" was needed. You prove yourself to be a true Nancy believer through and through. Don't even bother claiming you're a fence sitter because no one will buy it.

The Zetas have been FORCED by their Global Elite adversaries into certain very difficult and highly unfortunate strategies - where some collateral damage is regrettably unavoidable. Better sometimes to blow the bridge than lose the town.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

What "Global Elite?" Oh, you mean the ones that the "Zetas" are helping by making everything appear normal so we won't notice that the Earth is halted in orbit or that "Planet X" is hovering near the sun?
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You sir ... ARE NOT AMUSING!!!

BEWARE OF THE TIPPING POINT!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Heed Max's warning. In nine days when total disaster fails to happen, Max will reach his tipping point and go totally insane.
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"2015" is used only because by that date there will be no 'element of doubt' remaining.
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There's no element of doubt remaining, right now.

Your attempt at pushing back the PX arrival date *yet again* is horribly disingenuous, at best, ZM.

And you know it.
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Freestore was an unfortunate victim of the "White Lie" - a VERY regrettable but necessary maneuver.

BULLSHIT! If 2003 was a "white lie" why did the "Zetas" claim that all other dates were incorrect? Why did they state that they gave the date out because the U.S. and Indonesian governments would no longer succeed with their plans? That statement means that no "white lie" was needed. You prove yourself to be a true Nancy believer through and through. Don't even bother claiming you're a fence sitter because no one will buy it.

 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


In a chess or poker match, you never want to betray your strategy to the adversary. Just as there is still classified information from as far back as WWII (and probably farther), in the battle between the Zetas and the Global Elite, it is highly likely - indeed PROBABLE - that explanations for every statement, every representation will NOT be provided. A satisfactory explanation WAS provided for the "White Lie", but the statement regarding the Indonesian government does appear to be somewhat aberrant. Almost certainly there is a compelling reason it was communicated, and it is rational to conclude that there are "compelling reasons" a "compelling reason" cannot be provided.

The Zetas have been FORCED by their Global Elite adversaries into certain very difficult and highly unfortunate strategies - where some collateral damage is regrettably unavoidable. Better sometimes to blow the bridge than lose the town.

What "Global Elite?" Oh, you mean the ones that the "Zetas" are helping by making everything appear normal so we won't notice that the Earth is halted in orbit or that "Planet X" is hovering near the sun?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Helping? I suppose with that rationale, ransom paid to kidnappers is "helping" the kidnappers!!!

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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You sir ... ARE NOT AMUSING!!!

BEWARE OF THE TIPPING POINT!!!

Heed Max's warning. In nine days when total disaster fails to happen, Max will reach his tipping point and go totally insane.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Funny, I've nearly concluded that you were of the opinion that point had already been reached.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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10/30/2010 10:43 PM
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"2015" is used only because by that date there will be no 'element of doubt' remaining.


There's no element of doubt remaining, right now.

Your attempt at pushing back the PX arrival date *yet again* is horribly disingenuous, at best, ZM.

And you know it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Yes exactly. Well said.
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If the TIPPING POINT lives up to its hype, then 7 of 10 might be a VERY "conservative" forecast!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


What's with the IF?

You have categorically stated in no uncertain terms that this TIPPING POINT crap WILL HAPPEN!!

....and when IT DOES NOT....you will have to front up with at least an apology to the other posters here, Melfy.

If you don't sockpuppet then your goose is likely to be cooked sunshine!!!!!!!

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10/30/2010 11:04 PM
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Look what I found. Somebody did the math for the acceleration during Nancy's claimed 90 degree shift in an hour. Time needed for accell/decell means that the peak speed would be over 10,000mph! What kind of wind would THAT cause?! And Nancy has this posted on her own site!

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 Quoting: Menow 1119283


lolsign over 10,000 mph!!

Now that would produce some damn mighty big hurricane events!!!

lolsign Nancy LIEDer and her zetaculties sure love dreaming of surviving an illogical doomsday fantasy.
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Mexcited
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Please don't use this smilie. It frustrates me to look at it.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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