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I have come into possession of a violet ray healing machine, it was popular in the late 1800's to early 1900's (it is a Tesla invention)

SOZT
Violet is a variation of the red light spectrum, which includes heat, even if it is not felt as such.
EOZT



The infrared part of the electromagnetic spectrum covers the range from roughly 300 GHz (1 mm) to 400 THz (750 nm). It can be divided into three parts.


Ultraviolet (UV) light is electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength shorter than that of visible light, but longer than x-rays, in the range 10 nm to 400 nm

For once, we agree Max...the bunkers and woo-woos have failed again. It's great to know you're finally seeing the light.

Another Px believer is back with us.

Rontus Mekaora
9/3/2006 5:33 AM

I think it may be earlier then 2012, with the pole resonance decreasing at such a rapid pace I personally beleive that a pole AND solar shift are going to happen later this year.

Im pretty sure that this was what happened to Mars a few hundred thousand years ago.

Whilst in meditation I took an astral voyage to see what happens when a mega-shift occurs and for some reason I was on Mars!

I saw it happen suddenly. firstly all electric power went off, then the suns rays seemed to set alight the trees and shrubs all over the planet.

The populace ran towards the few space ships that they had and decided they had to goto earth, I remember them being a bit scared of going to earth because the reptilians had seeded earth thousands of years ago and it was full of dangerous creatured like dinosaurs, but the humans on mars had no choice.

I also vaguely remeber them taking a few famous scientists and a round date wheel.


funny thing is:



User ID: 138915
9/3/2006 6:17 AM
I, Rontus Mekora have developed a high frequency storage device to be given to no more then 144,000 people

This High Frequency Storage Device is made from a simple paper clip that has been specially frequentised by high yielding meditation techniques by advanced Cerestial beings.

The device will SAVE YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES FROM THE DARK POWERS OF MOBUS!

Hurry! only 143,983 Salvation Spots Left!

The High Frequency "Paper Clip" also comes with a certificate of truth.

The Device and Certificate is LIMITED TO 144,000 and is ONLY $4,000 (including Postage). yes, ONLY four thousand dollars.

$4000 for a paper clip? What the heck is that person smoking?

I wonder how many he managed to sell. The sad thing is - someone out there probably bought it.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 08/02/2009 12:10 PM

"A fool and his money..."

I see that a couple of the good guys have decided to post in the ZT thread. Folks, wallering with pigs does no good...they like it and it only makes you dirty. Let Nancy's foolishness sink to the back pages where it belongs.

I only responded there twice...once because I wanted User to read what I had to say. He claimed that he didn't attack people if they weren't impolite. Well, he proved himself to be a liar and I wanted to point that out to him. Then I responded to his reply. Naturally, he responded to my post with nothing of substance so I sent him a PM so as not to continue contributing to her page counts.

Those who matter fully understand what kooks Luser and the rest are. Those who might support his foolishness are beyond help, so why even try. Even though we'll all have a momentary laugh when px doesn't show up by 2012, we all know that the true woo woo's will simply think of another excuse and carry on. They have a lacking in their lives that mandates that they believe a story where they are somehow in possession of a specialized knowledge that props up their self esteem. If it isn't px, it'll be something else similarly kooky.

and we have reached the next level of the riddle


Nancy ace will tell rueful of being historic as moon renders or receiver traces almighty popcorn trips monday night to Zetamax Mercury swing repulsions
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And WHOEVER solves this, he may NOT publish the solution, but just tell he got it, and may supply a proof by coding something the same way.
102 days ZT not solved
1 debunker solvers accepted (Oldsmobile)
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Hints will be provided every 25 days
Hint No. 1: The riddle CAN be solved, and you WILL know if your solution is right. (everybody doing it can be proud)
Hint No. 2: Where did the riddle appear first? (everybody doing it should be proud)
Hint No. 3: Its no chiffre. It IS decribed in encryption history - but not available on the net (everybody doing it was diligent)
Hint No. 4: The riddle is easy. (everybody doing it can think)

I see that one of GLP's other resident crazies is back. WIO is back to posting images that she embossed in PhotoShop and claiming they show alien life forms.

Dr. Deagle claims many of the same things that Nancy and the Zetas claim:

There is indeed a "Galactic Council" and that it will NOT allow the STS elite of this planet to succeed with their plans.

This "Council" has intervened via it's member aliens COUNTLESS times to prevent accidental outbreaks, nuclear launches, large scale terrorism and other events that would alter global human society dramatically for the worse.

We are facing a time of "judgment" and it is "uncertain" at this time whether the human race will even survive - (Nancy of course says it won't and will be replaced by the hybrids).

He says there "could be" a pole shift - but that it would be caused by passing through the galactic ecliptic plane rather than PX.

He says "get seeds" too.







He is a medical doctor, a chemist, and "A direct descendant of Moses and Prophet of the Most High God". (His words paraphrased).

He "ought" to KNOW!!!



Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 08/03/2009 07:46 AM

So how are you going to grow seeds when the atmosphere is largely stripped away as Nancy says it will be, and without adequate sun, and most of all, without water, since the "sloshing" and toxic dust will have contaminated all sources of fresh water. The soil itself would be full of salt from the sea, making it hard to grow anything. If Nancy's scenario occurred and if any living thing survived it, planting veggies would not be an option for years, perhaps decades.

The loons like Max never think about these things. First, a pole shift over the course of a few hours would most definitely NOT be survivable by anyone. The math proving that is simple for anyone to do. Secondly, if the earth's rotational axis shifted by close to 90 degrees, as is claimed, the seasons would be completely in upheaval, with one half of the earth being pointed nearly at the sun. This means permanent sunlight for one hemisphere with permanent darkness for the other side. How are seeds that have evolved for the current seasons going to grow in a wildly different lighting and temperature environment? And one contaminated by sea salts over all the remaining soil that hasn't melted into glass by the sheer energy dissipation of the shift itself.

The "Zetas" never said a thing about Dr. Deagle so how can they be right again? And what does any of that have to with WIO's claims?



Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 08/03/2009 08:47 AM

quote Melfey.

He is a medical doctor, a chemist, and "A direct descendant of Moses and Prophet of the Most High God". (His words paraphrased).

He "ought" to KNOW!!!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, THAT IS SO FUNNY!

Will the comedy ever stop!

Posted for posterity....

PR
Would you consider airing your view of Nancy's story? given that you knew her from a different viewpoint, I am interested in how you see the message and it's changes over the years.

I will understand if you decline 'tho.
Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


In response to your request;

From 1995 to May 15, 2003, Nancy Leider predicted that on or about the date of May 15, 2003 the planet known as Niburu would re-enter our solar system and cause havoc to earth. She further stated that the information she was providing was given to her telepathically by an alien species known as the Zeta and the arrival of Niburu would validate the Zeta existance.With the Y2K predictions also occurring during that time, many were of a disposition to believe her or at least retain an element of doubt until May 15, 2003.

My relationship with Nancy Leider has been solely based on the Internet, never having met her. The story she has woven appears to be based to a great degree on the works of Zechariah Sitchen, Velikovsky and others.

To recap that time period;
Around the year 2000 sky coordinates were provided for the location of Niburu from Nancy Lieder/Zeta. In September 2002, Steve Havas rented time on a telescope and began imaging the coordinates. In the first images, something was found on the images at the exact coordinates. This got my and others interest. From September 2002 to March 2003 telescope imaging was used tracking the coordinates given by Nancy Leider and an ongoing debate began over those images.

My direct involvement on this issue of Nancy Leider and Niburu involved review of those images, an attempted debate on the Sci.Astro forum, and the presentation to Sci.Astro of a statement of claim stating that the arrival of Niburu on May 15,2003 was evidence for the existence of the zeta.
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During the time I was working on the telescope images on the basis of my experience with photo imaging, not astronomy. From September 2002 to February 2003, anomalies appeared on the imaging which could be plotted on a star map.

After February there was no conclusive evidence from the imaging, which should be expected if a planet was moving closer into our solar system. In March 2003 telescope imaging was discontinued. In March / April 2003, Nancy Leider stated that the planet could be seen with binoculars or small telescopes. Many images from around the world were posted to show its arrival. Some of these were hoaxes and some were unknowns. By April 2003, the planet was alleged to be near the sun, which brought out even more photos consisting of lens flare from cameras or sunlight on cloud formations.

Although 2002 and early 2003 saw an uptick in solar and geological activity, from March to May 2003, no conclusive evidence of an incoming planet was apparent.

May 15 2003 came and went and on May 21 2003 I posted to Sci.Astro forum stating that the statement of claim was rejected due to the non arrival of Niburu.
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With the no show of Niburu in May 2003, most rejected her claim and moved on to other things. Myself included. Whereas before May 15, 2003 the possibility existed, after May 15, 2003 no credibility in this claim remains.

To explain the failed prediction, Nancy Leider stated the whole episode was a "white lie" to confuse the powers that be. With the introduction of the "white lie" to retrieve her predictive credibility some continued to believe. Nancy Leider has continued stating the planet passage is imminent and attempts to convince others of her validity.

In conclusion;

I have watched these past six years since 2003 and continue to observe the ongoing debate surrounding Niburu. Looking back and attempting to make sense of what this lady is up to defies ready explanation. Because of the lack of evidence for her initial statements, and the failure of her prediction, one can only presume that the individual is suffering from some disorder or trying to retain notoriety on the Internet.

In my opinion, the theories of Sitchen, Hapgood and Velikovsky deserve further study; the theories of Nancy Leider do not.

My regrets in this whole episode are first that I played a small part in a deception that has affected many. And secondly, some of my comments during the debate in 2002/2003 were unkind especially when dealing with IM Openminded. Up until that time I considered myself rational and correct in things that I had undertaken but found it was possible to become emotional and wrong, providing me with both a humbling and, in retrospect, a necessary experience for me. I now have relearned to approach issues from a more balanced point of view.

Moving on from this experience, I have been able to regain a level of balance and evolve my believe structure on rational facts rather than emotional arguments.

I now approach all new claims made on the Internet or elsewhere with healthy scepticism based on evidence and facts, and I encourage others to do the same.

Kindest Regards
J.William Dell

Last Edited by Prof_Rabbit on 08/03/2009 09:09 AM

This is worth bookmarking to post on her chats. If posted, please refrain from any further posting or responding. Her followers need to know her history.

Her followers already know, it's the content that is important, JWD shows just how easy it is to get caught up in the moment and lose focus, and to lose the ability to see things rationally, instead of emotionally.

What PROOF do you have of any of that? I think it's all total bullshit that you have just made up, and it reads like something Nancy would have written, as if any further evidence were needed that you are one and the same.

Childish nonsense Nancy, that's all you have.

It's absolutely amazing the lack of reasoning in these bunkers. How a full grown person could make such a statement with a straight face is beyond me.

They'll do whatever it takes to convince themselves that Nancy is right.

Is there really such a TV special forthcoming?

shilly wabbit

Max, did you actually make the statement about someone being a direct decendent of Moses? You're kidding, right?

Wow. I just read the exchange. You made the mistake of treating Luser as if he was a reasonable and ethical being. We have all done that a time or two. He ALWAYS turns nasty.

Case in point right there.

Yes, nothing but silly cartoons from the bunker.

What WON'T you do to convince yourself Nancy is right?

Or, more logically, what will convince you Nancy is wrong (pre-2012)?