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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.

Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.

How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?

How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.

How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.

How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence.

I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this.

Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.

There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.

How can you say that when there's no proof or evidence that these "transmissions" even take place? And why can't these super advanced aliens ensure that the message is being received properly? Why don't they correct her when she opens her mouth? Don't they monitor what she says? Since they know the message can get misinterpreted, it seems to me they would want to monitor this so it can be immediately corrected. And why can't they make a device with a more reliable "universal translator" built in?

How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.

How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.



Okay, so maybe the fat is garbling some of the message. What's stopping her from checking simple terms in an astronomy book so she's prepared for the next transmission? I can answer that. She's fat. That means she's also lazy and apathetic. That means she doesn't really care about anything. You can tell by her face she doesn't eat healthy. That's not STO, that's STS. She does nothing to help her credibility. Again, because she doesn't care about anything.

Also consider that she is pushing 70, and perhaps you can begin to appreciate the limitations she functions under!!

How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.



Okay, so maybe the fat is garbling some of the message. What's stopping her from checking simple terms in an astronomy book so she's prepared for the next transmission? I can answer that. She's fat. That means she's also lazy and apathetic. That means she doesn't really care about anything. You can tell by her face she doesn't eat healthy. That's not STO, that's STS. She does nothing to help her credibility. Again, because she doesn't care about anything.


We live in a world with a HUGE division of labor. The ZetaTalk site and body of work does not benefit from that paradigm, but is instead rather the COMPLETE work-product of Nancy Lieder. Consider ALL the time it takes to function as Emissary and scribe, and to answer emails from fans and just keep the site up. Also consider that she is pushing 70, and perhaps you can begin to appreciate the limitations she functions under!!

How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.



Okay, so maybe the fat is garbling some of the message. What's stopping her from checking simple terms in an astronomy book so she's prepared for the next transmission? I can answer that. She's fat. That means she's also lazy and apathetic. That means she doesn't really care about anything. You can tell by her face she doesn't eat healthy. That's not STO, that's STS. She does nothing to help her credibility. Again, because she doesn't care about anything.


We live in a world with a HUGE division of labor. The ZetaTalk site and body of work does not benefit from that paradigm, but is instead rather the COMPLETE work-product of Nancy Lieder. Consider ALL the time it takes to function as Emissary and scribe, and to answer emails from fans and just keep the site up. Also consider that she is pushing 70, and perhaps you can begin to appreciate the limitations she functions under!!



What does that have to do with Nancy letting herself go and getting fat and unhealthy?

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.


Or Nancy is simply wrong -- by far the more believable explanation.

>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.

I've heard a couple references to the starburst candy wrapper being some sort of sign. Anyone care to elaborate for me? I'd like to hear this story.

There is indeed a VERY simple answer to all your questions:

MAINTENANCE of the "element of bullshit".

How can you have an "element of bullshit" if ALL bullshit is removed???

Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.

Are you sure about that? Remember the people in Idaho who sold off all their possessions and tried to set up camp on public land when they let Nancy convince them that the "pole shift" was imminent back in 2003?

There is indeed a VERY simple answer to all your questions:

MAINTENANCE of the "element of doubt".

How can you have an "element of doubt" if ALL doubt is removed???

It's a "sacrifice" she has selflessly made for our sake.

It's a "sacrifice" she has selflessly made for our sake.

Hardly. She's lazy! If she really want to benefit mankind, that would include taking care of herself so that she would be around longer to ensure her "message" was being received.

It's a "sacrifice" she has selflessly made for our sake.

Hardly. She's lazy! If she really want to benefit mankind, that would include taking care of herself so that she would be around longer to ensure her "message" was being received.




Yeah, has anyone actually even met fatso? What if this is just a Nigerian Zeta scam?

It's a "sacrifice" she has selflessly made for our sake.

Hardly. She's lazy! If she really want to benefit mankind, that would include taking care of herself so that she would be around longer to ensure her "message" was being received.




Yeah, has anyone actually even met fatso? What if this is just a Nigerian Zeta scam?

I've heard a couple references to the starburst candy wrapper being some sort of sign. Anyone care to elaborate for me? I'd like to hear this story.

I've heard a couple references to the starburst candy wrapper being some sort of sign. Anyone care to elaborate for me? I'd like to hear this story.

I tried to find the page on Nancy's website where she talks about this but I couldn't. However, basically, she asked the "Zetas" for a sign that would convince her to do what "they" were telling her. Supposedly, they told her she would go in to work the next morning and all the MUFON magazines in her office would be face down on the table. She was really excited by this and couldn't wait to get to work. Imagine her surprise when she got to work to find the magazines undisturbed from the night before. She got hysterical. The "Zetas" then told her "they" don't give out signs on demand because these signs can be interpreted wrong...never mind that "they" were quite specific as to what she should have found that morning when she got to work. I fail to see how that could have been misinterpreted. Anyway, one day she's sitting in a theater with a box (or bag) of Starburst fruit chews, watching a movie. She says she got this weird feeling that a "Zeta" came in and sat next to her and that she would find something in her pocket. Instead, the very last Starburst in the box didn't have a wrapper on it and she became convinced that was her sign...never mind that the "Zetas" have never confirmed this. I remember once I had grabbed a handful of M&Ms out of my grandmother's candy dish...plain M&Ms but out of all those M&Ms - one had a peanut in it. Looking back, that must have been a sign from the "Zetas" and I overlooked it. Thank goodness!

Here's some comedy you can read from ZetaTalk:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]