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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
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no, wrong.
it is people who already share the same understanding


No, it's people who share Nancy's understanding without question or dissent.

Pray tell us all how long does a post last on the ning if it doesn't follow Nancy's dogma?

I'll answer that for you - less than an hour.


less than an HOUR?

oh, mods must not perform their duties very well! :P
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So you admit that censorship is in full bloom on the ning. Well, you must be used to it having been born in a communist bloc country.
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I thought about doing a dual boot on my desktop, but the book warns that can be tricky so I've thought about doing a virtual machine on the desktop. The laptop, however, doesn't get used much and had Windows XP on it. It was running really slow so I decided to wipe out everything on it and do a full custom install of Fedora...but I can easily change that to Ubuntu. I just have to burn the image to a CD or DVD and run it on the laptop.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Ubuntu is the way to go.

They did, however, have some problems with wireless before rev 9.04 - I'm running dual boot on my el-cheapo Compaq laptop. Ubuntu and Windows 7. No problems.
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800 pages of truth.


:tlr800b:
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The TIPPING POINT might very well prevent this thread from reaching 1000 pages. MY PREDICTION STILL STANDS!!!

yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Ubuntu is the way to go.

They did, however, have some problems with wireless before rev 9.04 - I'm running dual boot on my el-cheapo Compaq laptop. Ubuntu and Windows 7. No problems.
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I installed Ubuntu and it does work better than Fedora. More intuitive. I'm just trying to figure out how to use WINE so I can run some Windows apps. I'm not sure if I install the apps using WINE or if I do something else.
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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lol ... I enjoy your posts, Max ... I really do ... you're a funny guy.
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lol ... I enjoy your posts, Max ... I really do ... you're a funny guy.
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afro
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Figured out how to run a Windows based application using WINE but since this laptop doesn't have a serial port, I need to use a USB to serial adapter (Belkin F5U409) and I can't figure out how to install the driver. I got the package for it..umct.4.gz but I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it to install the driver.

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Figured out how to run a Windows based application using WINE but since this laptop doesn't have a serial port, I need to use a USB to serial adapter (Belkin F5U409) and I can't figure out how to install the driver. I got the package for it..umct.4.gz but I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it to install the driver.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


gzip -d umct.4.gz

This will expand it - then find embedded README and follow instructions.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/07/2010 09:53 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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There's only one file in the folder and this is what it says:

.\"
.\" Copyright (c) 2004 Scott Long
.\" All rights reserved.
.\"
.\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
.\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
.\" are met:
.\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
.\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
.\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
.\"
.\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE NETBSD FOUNDATION, INC. AND CONTRIBUTORS
.\" ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED
.\" TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
.\" PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE FOUNDATION OR CONTRIBUTORS
.\" BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
.\" CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF
.\" SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS
.\" INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN
.\" CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE)
.\" ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE
.\" POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
.\"
.\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/umct.4,v 1.6 2005/02/23 22:50:43 brueffer Exp $
.\"
.Dd February 29, 2004
.Dt UMCT 4
.Os
.Sh NAME
.Nm umct
.Nd Magic Control Technology USB-RS232 converter driver
.Sh SYNOPSIS
.Cd "device umct"
.Cd "device ucom"
.Sh DESCRIPTION
The
.Nm
driver provides support for USB to RS-232 converters based on the Magic
Control Technology USB-232 design.
These devices support most of the
standard RS-232 features including baud rates ranging from 300 to 115200
bits per second.
However, neither hardware nor software flow control
seems to be supported.
.Pp
Access to devices under this driver is via the
.Xr ucom 4
framework and device nodes.
.Sh HARDWARE
The
.Nm
driver supports the following adapters:
.Pp
.Bl -bullet -compact
.It
Belkin F5U109
.It
Belkin F5U409
.It
D-Link DU-H3SP USB BAY Hub
.It
Magic Control Technology USB-232
.It
Sitecom USB-232
.El
.Sh SEE ALSO
.Xr tty 4 ,
.Xr ucom 4 ,
.Xr usb 4
.Sh HISTORY
The
.Nm
driver
appeared in
.Fx 5.2 .
It is loosely based on the
.Xr ubsa 4
driver by
.An Alexander Kabaev Aq kan@FreeBSD.org
with documentation from
.An Wolfgang Grandeggar Aq wolfgang@cec.ch .
.Sh AUTHORS
The
.Nm
driver was written by
.An Scott Long Aq scottl@FreeBSD.org .
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There's only one file in the folder and this is what it says:

.\"
.\" Copyright (c) 2004 Scott Long
.\" All rights reserved.
.\"
.\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
.\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
.\" are met:
.\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
.\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
.\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
.\"
.\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE NETBSD FOUNDATION, INC. AND CONTRIBUTORS
.\" ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED
.\" TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
.\" PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE FOUNDATION OR CONTRIBUTORS
.\" BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
.\" CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF
.\" SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS
.\" INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN
.\" CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE)
.\" ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE
.\" POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
.\"
.\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/umct.4,v 1.6 2005/02/23 22:50:43 brueffer Exp $
.\"
.Dd February 29, 2004
.Dt UMCT 4
.Os
.Sh NAME
.Nm umct
.Nd Magic Control Technology USB-RS232 converter driver
.Sh SYNOPSIS
.Cd "device umct"
.Cd "device ucom"
.Sh DESCRIPTION
The
.Nm
driver provides support for USB to RS-232 converters based on the Magic
Control Technology USB-232 design.
These devices support most of the
standard RS-232 features including baud rates ranging from 300 to 115200
bits per second.
However, neither hardware nor software flow control
seems to be supported.
.Pp
Access to devices under this driver is via the
.Xr ucom 4
framework and device nodes.
.Sh HARDWARE
The
.Nm
driver supports the following adapters:
.Pp
.Bl -bullet -compact
.It
Belkin F5U109
.It
Belkin F5U409
.It
D-Link DU-H3SP USB BAY Hub
.It
Magic Control Technology USB-232
.It
Sitecom USB-232
.El
.Sh SEE ALSO
.Xr tty 4 ,
.Xr ucom 4 ,
.Xr usb 4
.Sh HISTORY
The
.Nm
driver
appeared in
.Fx 5.2 .
It is loosely based on the
.Xr ubsa 4
driver by
.An Alexander Kabaev Aq kan@FreeBSD.org
with documentation from
.An Wolfgang Grandeggar Aq wolfgang@cec.ch .
.Sh AUTHORS
The
.Nm
driver was written by
.An Scott Long Aq scottl@FreeBSD.org .
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

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Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/07/2010 10:10 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Already tried that and it didn't work. Unfortunately, so maybe the driver isn't good.

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Already tried that and it didn't work. Unfortunately, so maybe the driver isn't good.
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Indeed - it may not be compatible with Ubuntu. Unix is MADDENING in it's varieties. It's uniform when you want to do

ls -l

but after that the "subtle" variations can transform you into a Zetatalk "believer". Especially when doing things like code compilation, and driver installs.

In fact - can you get the source code for the driver?, often you can compile it and have better luck (as the compilation effectively "Ubuntu-izes" it.)

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/07/2010 10:14 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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I'll keep looking. It's out there somewhere...I know nothing about compiling it. Thank you for your help though.

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If this country "COLLAPSES", it's gonna essentially be REAR GUARD action for EVERYONE.

You up for it??

The first outstanding collapse is yours, within a few days.

Three, to be exact.

See you here at Monday, reading your excuses.

23 days gone fom 13.Okt.2010
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Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 754)
"3 weeks. I will stake my "reputation" on it!!" at 16 Okt. 2010
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 757)
"Ignore the TIPPING POINT - at YOUR peril!!! (You can thank me later!)"
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 773)
"I'm looking FORWARD to your collective APOLOGIES in just under two weeks!" (Snuppy, this will mots certainly YOU who has to apologize….)
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 779)

---------------

You can't start crowing about "failure" until midnight November 14th (going into November 15th).

Then you can "sing" all you want.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Ough, another reprieve ?

here you are, dear.



26 days gone fom 13.Okt.2010
7 days to go until another zetamax prediction ("We are just under four weeks away from the BIG TIPPING POINT Clif has been talking about for years.") failes (:-) miserably. Link:
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 754)
"3 weeks. I will stake my "reputation" on it!!" at 16 Okt. 2010
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 757)
"Ignore the TIPPING POINT - at YOUR peril!!! (You can thank me later!)"
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 773)
"I'm looking FORWARD to your collective APOLOGIES in just under two weeks!" (Snuppy, this will mots certainly YOU who has to apologize….)
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 779)
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Not forgetting we are nearly at 800 pages!


:Mexcited: ......I am going to enjoy watching popcorn the fence shitter's head explode beat_plast yet again over another Debunkers chat thread milestone!!
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Nothing can explode if it is filled with a 100 % vacuum ;-)
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Actually TLR was exercising his powers newly awarded to all
paying members who start a thread and deleted a bunch of trash
to where several pages disappeared.


Yes this is indeed correct. Every post that I have deleted from our debunkers thread has been either due to that annoying spammer with their little proxy postings or in one other case I deleted a total of two postings from zetamax and he knows damn well why they got deleted.

Any other postings that may have seemingly disappeared from our thread before we were given these specific thread moderating powers, as DrPostman has explained, is not of my doing!!

:Loneranger:

You deleted the "fence shitter" and bridget posts as I requested????
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why do you ask? they are backuped anyway and will forever be your unique trademark.

26 days gone fom 13.Okt.2010
7 days to go until another zetamax prediction ("We are just under four weeks away from the BIG TIPPING POINT Clif has been talking about for years.") failes (:-) miserably. Link:
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 754)
"3 weeks. I will stake my "reputation" on it!!" at 16 Okt. 2010
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 757)
"Ignore the TIPPING POINT - at YOUR peril!!! (You can thank me later!)"
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 773)
"I'm looking FORWARD to your collective APOLOGIES in just under two weeks!" (Snuppy, this will mots certainly YOU who has to apologize….)
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 779)
"""You can't start crowing about ""failure"" until midnight November 14th (going into November 15th).
Then you can ""sing"" all you want."""
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 797)
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800 pages of truth.


:tlr800b:


The TIPPING POINT might very well prevent this thread from reaching 1000 pages. MY PREDICTION STILL STANDS!!!

yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

You said such nonsens about 100, 200, 300, 400.
%00 was a disaster for you. 600. 700.

And now you woo-woo about 1000.

I say - you will still woo-woo at 2000 and 3000 as well, because you are a fool.

26 days gone fom 13.Okt.2010
7 days to go until another zetamax prediction ("We are just under four weeks away from the BIG TIPPING POINT Clif has been talking about for years.") failes (:-) miserably. Link:
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 754)
"3 weeks. I will stake my "reputation" on it!!" at 16 Okt. 2010
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 757)
"Ignore the TIPPING POINT - at YOUR peril!!! (You can thank me later!)"
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 773)
"I'm looking FORWARD to your collective APOLOGIES in just under two weeks!" (Snuppy, this will mots certainly YOU who has to apologize….)
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 779)
"""You can't start crowing about ""failure"" until midnight November 14th (going into November 15th).
Then you can ""sing"" all you want."""
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 797)
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800 pages of truth.


:tlr800b:


The TIPPING POINT might very well prevent this thread from reaching 1000 pages. MY PREDICTION STILL STANDS!!!

yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir yessir

You said such nonsens about 100, 200, 300, 400.
%00 was a disaster for you. 600. 700.

And now you woo-woo about 1000.

I say - you will still woo-woo at 2000 and 3000 as well, because you are a fool.

26 days gone fom 13.Okt.2010
7 days to go until another zetamax prediction ("We are just under four weeks away from the BIG TIPPING POINT Clif has been talking about for years.") failes (:-) miserably. Link:
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 754)
"3 weeks. I will stake my "reputation" on it!!" at 16 Okt. 2010
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 757)
"Ignore the TIPPING POINT - at YOUR peril!!! (You can thank me later!)"
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 773)
"I'm looking FORWARD to your collective APOLOGIES in just under two weeks!" (Snuppy, this will mots certainly YOU who has to apologize….)
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 779)
"""You can't start crowing about ""failure"" until midnight November 14th (going into November 15th).
Then you can ""sing"" all you want."""
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 797)
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I do not "wish" for anything bad to happen.
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- snip -
I do not "wish" for anything bad to happen.
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Then WHY do you woo-woo about it - nagging, continuously, libellous, futile, pointless and continuously WRONG?

26 days gone fom 13.Okt.2010
7 days to go until another zetamax prediction ("We are just under four weeks away from the BIG TIPPING POINT Clif has been talking about for years.") failes (:-) miserably. Link:
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 754)
"3 weeks. I will stake my "reputation" on it!!" at 16 Okt. 2010
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 757)
"Ignore the TIPPING POINT - at YOUR peril!!! (You can thank me later!)"
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 773)
"I'm looking FORWARD to your collective APOLOGIES in just under two weeks!" (Snuppy, this will mots certainly YOU who has to apologize….)
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 779)
"""You can't start crowing about ""failure"" until midnight November 14th (going into November 15th).
Then you can ""sing"" all you want."""
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 797)
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- snip -
I do not "wish" for anything bad to happen.

Then WHY do you woo-woo about it - nagging, continuously, libellous, futile, pointless and continuously WRONG?

26 days gone fom 13.Okt.2010
7 days to go until another zetamax prediction ("We are just under four weeks away from the BIG TIPPING POINT Clif has been talking about for years.") failes (:-) miserably. Link:
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 754)
"3 weeks. I will stake my "reputation" on it!!" at 16 Okt. 2010
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 757)
"Ignore the TIPPING POINT - at YOUR peril!!! (You can thank me later!)"
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 773)
"I'm looking FORWARD to your collective APOLOGIES in just under two weeks!" (Snuppy, this will mots certainly YOU who has to apologize….)
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"""You can't start crowing about ""failure"" until midnight November 14th (going into November 15th).
Then you can ""sing"" all you want."""
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230



He is wishing for it, by keeping his attention on it. That's how creative visualization works.
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.
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- snip -
I do not "wish" for anything bad to happen.

Then WHY do you woo-woo about it - nagging, continuously, libellous, futile, pointless and continuously WRONG?

26 days gone fom 13.Okt.2010
7 days to go until another zetamax prediction ("We are just under four weeks away from the BIG TIPPING POINT Clif has been talking about for years.") failes (:-) miserably. Link:
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 754)
"3 weeks. I will stake my "reputation" on it!!" at 16 Okt. 2010
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 757)
"Ignore the TIPPING POINT - at YOUR peril!!! (You can thank me later!)"
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 773)
"I'm looking FORWARD to your collective APOLOGIES in just under two weeks!" (Snuppy, this will mots certainly YOU who has to apologize….)
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 779)
"""You can't start crowing about ""failure"" until midnight November 14th (going into November 15th).
Then you can ""sing"" all you want."""
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 797)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


So what was Max's first prediction date for the tipping point? Is he moving goal posts again?
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Great statement from another thread:

"Who are the "shills and nasties" here?

Those who correctly pointed out that it was ridiculous to worry about a contrived prophecy based on a cartoon?

Or those who visualized violence and suffering and sent that negative energy out into the universe?
"
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 Quoting: DrPostman


Nonsense! Here's the analogy. There's a pile of dark, rank, runny excrement sitting in the middle of your living room. And it STINKS - BAD. But you know what, it will stink WORSE if the pile is disturbed. So we have the debunkers saying that it doesn't really stink that bad, and we have REALISTIC posters saying it needs to be moved. The mere suggestion of moving it brings HOWLS OF DERISION from the debunkers who accuse the realists of wanting to raise the level of stink without purpose, without design, without motive, without vision ... etc. To merely suggest that the pile be moved, brings accusations of realists "visualizing" olfactory suffering of gargantuan proportions, advocating and deriving pleasure from increased human suffering - getting "off on it" in fact - and sending that negative energy out into the universe.

Bottom line, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/08/2010 11:29 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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"There's a pile dark, rank, runny excrement sitting in the middle of your living room."

Not anymore. My mother-in-law left last week.
Well-Paid Government Shill
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"There's a pile dark, rank, runny excrement sitting in the middle of your living room."

Not anymore. My mother-in-law left last week.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that Max can't discern
shit from science.
 Quoting: DrPostman


They both start with the letter "s".
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Nonsense! Here's the analogy. There's a pile of dark, rank, runny excrement sitting in the middle of your living room. And it STINKS - BAD. But you know what, it will stink WORSE if the pile is disturbed. So we have the debunkers saying that it doesn't really stink that bad, and we have REALISTIC posters saying it needs to be moved. The mere suggestion of moving it brings HOWLS OF DERISION from the debunkers who accuse the realists of wanting to raise the level of stink without purpose, without design, without motive, without vision ... etc. To merely suggest that the pile be moved, brings accusations of realists "visualizing" olfactory suffering of gargantuan proportions, advocating and deriving pleasure from increased human suffering - getting "off on it" in fact - and sending that negative energy out into the universe.

Bottom, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

No, what you are saying is there is an imaginary pile of shit that is going to be sitting in the middle of your living room floor in 2012.
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Nonsense! Here's the analogy. There's a pile of dark, rank, runny excrement sitting in the middle of your living room. And it STINKS - BAD. But you know what, it will stink WORSE if the pile is disturbed. So we have the debunkers saying that it doesn't really stink that bad, and we have REALISTIC posters saying it needs to be moved. The mere suggestion of moving it brings HOWLS OF DERISION from the debunkers who accuse the realists of wanting to raise the level of stink without purpose, without design, without motive, without vision ... etc. To merely suggest that the pile be moved, brings accusations of realists "visualizing" olfactory suffering of gargantuan proportions, advocating and deriving pleasure from increased human suffering - getting "off on it" in fact - and sending that negative energy out into the universe.

Bottom, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

No, what you are saying is there is an imaginary pile of shit that is going to be sitting in the middle of your living room floor in 2012.
 Quoting: Gazmik


LOL! - so if there is ever a financial meltdown, GLP posters are to be held responsible, rather than the folks who conceived, designed, funded and built this threat to humanities well- being???

yeahsure heh

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/08/2010 11:33 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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LOL! - so if there is ever a financial meltdown, GLP posters are to be held responsible, rather than the folks who conceived, designed, funded and built this threat to humanities well- being???

yeahsure heh
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Funny, I don’t recall anyone in this thread denying the possibility of financial doom. The global economy seems to have evolved into a house of cards and it seems clear that a fall is inevitable IMO. Most debunkers here do not deny this possibility. It is the clear BS like planet X, Pole shifts and most other claims made by your beloved Nancy Lieder that we have a problem with.

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