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Nonsense! Here's the analogy. There's a pile of dark, rank, runny excrement sitting in the middle of your living room. And it STINKS - BAD. But you know what, it will stink WORSE if the pile is disturbed. So we have the debunkers saying that it doesn't really stink that bad, and we have REALISTIC posters saying it needs to be moved. The mere suggestion of moving it brings HOWLS OF DERISION from the debunkers who accuse the realists of wanting to raise the level of stink without purpose, without design, without motive, without vision ... etc. To merely suggest that the pile be moved, brings accusations of realists "visualizing" olfactory suffering of gargantuan proportions, advocating and deriving pleasure from increased human suffering - getting "off on it" in fact - and sending that negative energy out into the universe.

Bottom, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

No, what you are saying is there is an imaginary pile of shit that is going to be sitting in the middle of your living room floor in 2012.


LOL! - so if there is ever a financial meltdown, GLP posters are to be held responsible, rather than the folks who conceived, designed, funded and built this threat to humanities well- being???

yeahsure heh
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If the Zetas were predicting a mere financial meltdown ("mere" being a relative term to the horrendous destruction they regularly predict) you'd have far fewer debunking her posts.

Do you think moving away from the coastlines, as Nancy/Zetas has often loudly advised, prepares you for a financial meltdown?
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Bottom line, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Yeah, the world is messed up. We messed it up. Woowoos sit on the internet whipping themselves into a frenzy of doom, which does nothing to solve the problem and creates an energy of fear and wishing for misfortune. Normal people get out and try to change things in the real world to make it a better place. We don't sit around waiting for aliens or evolved and ascended masters to wipe our bums for us.
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Bottom line, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

Yeah, the world is messed up. We messed it up. Woowoos sit on the internet whipping themselves into a frenzy of doom, which does nothing to solve the problem and creates an energy of fear and wishing for misfortune. Normal people get out and try to change things in the real world to make it a better place. We don't sit around waiting for aliens or evolved and ascended masters to wipe our bums for us.
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Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Bottom line, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

Yeah, the world is messed up. We messed it up. Woowoos sit on the internet whipping themselves into a frenzy of doom, which does nothing to solve the problem and creates an energy of fear and wishing for misfortune. Normal people get out and try to change things in the real world to make it a better place. We don't sit around waiting for aliens or evolved and ascended masters to wipe our bums for us.


Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



Uh, Max, at various times, Nancy has suggested that people:

1) Eat drywall for the calcium.
2) Drill holes in their penises and use corks as plugs for birth control.

Those are just a couple of her 'tips' I recall. There is NO calcium in drywall. And her drilling method of birth control would almost certainly result in infection and death.

So what were you saying again?
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Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.
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Unless that misfortune required the presence of the family pet.
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Bottom line, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

Yeah, the world is messed up. We messed it up. Woowoos sit on the internet whipping themselves into a frenzy of doom, which does nothing to solve the problem and creates an energy of fear and wishing for misfortune. Normal people get out and try to change things in the real world to make it a better place. We don't sit around waiting for aliens or evolved and ascended masters to wipe our bums for us.


Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.



Uh, Max, at various times, Nancy has suggested that people:

1) Eat drywall for the calcium.
2) Drill holes in their penises and use corks as plugs for birth control.

Those are just a couple of her 'tips' I recall. There is NO calcium in drywall. And her drilling method of birth control would almost certainly result in infection and death.

So what were you saying again?
 Quoting: The_Returner

Who can forget the penis plug? Or the banana worm bread. Or lying in a trench holding sheet metal covered with sod over your head to protect yourself from 1500km per hour winds at the time of the pole shift. Or killing your pets. I could go on and on.
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Bottom line, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

Yeah, the world is messed up. We messed it up. Woowoos sit on the internet whipping themselves into a frenzy of doom, which does nothing to solve the problem and creates an energy of fear and wishing for misfortune. Normal people get out and try to change things in the real world to make it a better place. We don't sit around waiting for aliens or evolved and ascended masters to wipe our bums for us.


Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.



Uh, Max, at various times, Nancy has suggested that people:

1) Eat drywall for the calcium.
2) Drill holes in their penises and use corks as plugs for birth control.

Those are just a couple of her 'tips' I recall. There is NO calcium in drywall. And her drilling method of birth control would almost certainly result in infection and death.

So what were you saying again?

Who can forget the penis plug? Or the banana worm bread. Or lying in a trench holding sheet metal covered with sod over your head to protect yourself from 1500km per hour winds at the time of the pole shift. Or killing your pets. I could go on and on.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Please - the "penis plug" was informational ONLY. It's well established fact that native Africans did this - and with some success. Look at what kids are doing to their EARS these days.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Bottom line, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

Yeah, the world is messed up. We messed it up. Woowoos sit on the internet whipping themselves into a frenzy of doom, which does nothing to solve the problem and creates an energy of fear and wishing for misfortune. Normal people get out and try to change things in the real world to make it a better place. We don't sit around waiting for aliens or evolved and ascended masters to wipe our bums for us.


Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.



Uh, Max, at various times, Nancy has suggested that people:

1) Eat drywall for the calcium.
2) Drill holes in their penises and use corks as plugs for birth control.

Those are just a couple of her 'tips' I recall. There is NO calcium in drywall. And her drilling method of birth control would almost certainly result in infection and death.

So what were you saying again?

Who can forget the penis plug? Or the banana worm bread. Or lying in a trench holding sheet metal covered with sod over your head to protect yourself from 1500km per hour winds at the time of the pole shift. Or killing your pets. I could go on and on.


Please - the "penis plug" was informational ONLY. It's well established fact that native Africans did this - and with some success. Look at what kids are doing to their EARS these days.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


So which brand of drywall has the highest calcium content?

And which goes best with banana worn bread?

We'll have to finish this discussion later -- damn, this plug hurts.
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Bottom line, we're tired of living with STINK - and are more than a little willing to put up with a short term increase, in order to eliminate it ALTOGETHER!!!

Yeah, the world is messed up. We messed it up. Woowoos sit on the internet whipping themselves into a frenzy of doom, which does nothing to solve the problem and creates an energy of fear and wishing for misfortune. Normal people get out and try to change things in the real world to make it a better place. We don't sit around waiting for aliens or evolved and ascended masters to wipe our bums for us.


Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.



Uh, Max, at various times, Nancy has suggested that people:

1) Eat drywall for the calcium.
2) Drill holes in their penises and use corks as plugs for birth control.

Those are just a couple of her 'tips' I recall. There is NO calcium in drywall. And her drilling method of birth control would almost certainly result in infection and death.

So what were you saying again?

Who can forget the penis plug? Or the banana worm bread. Or lying in a trench holding sheet metal covered with sod over your head to protect yourself from 1500km per hour winds at the time of the pole shift. Or killing your pets. I could go on and on.


Please - the "penis plug" was informational ONLY. It's well established fact that native Africans did this - and with some success. Look at what kids are doing to their EARS these days.


So which brand of drywall has the highest calcium content?

And which goes best with banana worn bread?

We'll have to finish this discussion later -- damn, this plug hurts.
 Quoting: The_Returner


OLD drywall manufactured in the fifties. Anything newer and there are toxic additives. (Of course avoid the sections right next to the lead-based paints). Frankly, I'd prefer to just grind up bones.

What is so outlandish about "Banana worm bread"? The only "outrageous" thing about it, is where is someone outside of the equator supposed to get bananas???

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/08/2010 04:55 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.
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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.
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>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/09/2010 05:01 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?
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Anyone who followed Nancy's advice would be prepared for ANY disaster or misfortune.
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Any survivable disaster...which a "pole shift" as Nancy describes it would not be.
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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?
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I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...

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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Bananas, as we enjoy them today (seedless), don't grow without engineering. The natural variety contains large, hard seeds. Interesting fact - bananas are radioactive due to the high levels of potassium they contain and have even set off radioactive monitors at customs inspection stations.
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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...
 Quoting: The_Returner


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

No surprise there. We're still waiting for you to present that evidence to support your claims about the palm trees in Alaska.

I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Oops! There was your first mistake...trusting that Nancy encountered a reference to that claim. We all know that Nancy doesn't research or verify much of anything.

Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Are you sure about that? Remember the people in Idaho who sold off all their possessions and tried to set up camp on public land when they let Nancy convince them that the "pole shift" was imminent back in 2003? Free Store can be another example. He seems the type that would be gullible and naive enough to actually try it. After all, he's so wrapped up in what Nancy said that he let it ruin his marriage.
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There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

A few inaccuracies? The problem is - Nancy doesn't check or verify anything. It took what, 10 years to get her to finally realize she was using RA and DEC wrong when she could have easily looked it up when the error was pointed out to her? The fact of the matter is - she thinks she's always right, or that the "information" given to her by the "Zetas" is 100% accurate...even though it has been proven not to be.
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It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

How can you say that when there's no proof or evidence that these "transmissions" even take place? And why can't these super advanced aliens ensure that the message is being received properly? Why don't they correct her when she opens her mouth? Don't they monitor what she says? Since they know the message can get misinterpreted, it seems to me they would want to monitor this so it can be immediately corrected. And why can't they make a device with a more reliable "universal translator" built in?
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It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.

How can you say that when there's no proof or evidence that these "transmissions" even take place? And why can't these super advanced aliens ensure that the message is being received properly? Why don't they correct her when she opens her mouth? Don't they monitor what she says? Since they know the message can get misinterpreted, it seems to me they would want to monitor this so it can be immediately corrected. And why can't they make a device with a more reliable "universal translator" built in?
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There is indeed a VERY simple answer to all your questions:

MAINTENANCE of the "element of doubt".

How can you have an "element of doubt" if ALL doubt is removed???
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.
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Okay, so maybe the fat is garbling some of the message. What's stopping her from checking simple terms in an astronomy book so she's prepared for the next transmission? I can answer that. She's fat. That means she's also lazy and apathetic. That means she doesn't really care about anything. You can tell by her face she doesn't eat healthy. That's not STO, that's STS. She does nothing to help her credibility. Again, because she doesn't care about anything.
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I've heard a couple references to the starburst candy wrapper being some sort of sign. Anyone care to elaborate for me? I'd like to hear this story.
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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.



Okay, so maybe the fat is garbling some of the message. What's stopping her from checking simple terms in an astronomy book so she's prepared for the next transmission? I can answer that. She's fat. That means she's also lazy and apathetic. That means she doesn't really care about anything. You can tell by her face she doesn't eat healthy. That's not STO, that's STS. She does nothing to help her credibility. Again, because she doesn't care about anything.
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We live in a world with a HUGE division of labor. The ZetaTalk site and body of work does not benefit from that paradigm, but is instead rather the COMPLETE work-product of Nancy Lieder. Consider ALL the time it takes to function as Emissary and scribe, and to answer emails from fans and just keep the site up. Also consider that she is pushing 70, and perhaps you can begin to appreciate the limitations she functions under!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Also consider that she is pushing 70, and perhaps you can begin to appreciate the limitations she functions under!!
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We fully understand her mental limitations. But, appreciate them?
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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.



Okay, so maybe the fat is garbling some of the message. What's stopping her from checking simple terms in an astronomy book so she's prepared for the next transmission? I can answer that. She's fat. That means she's also lazy and apathetic. That means she doesn't really care about anything. You can tell by her face she doesn't eat healthy. That's not STO, that's STS. She does nothing to help her credibility. Again, because she doesn't care about anything.


We live in a world with a HUGE division of labor. The ZetaTalk site and body of work does not benefit from that paradigm, but is instead rather the COMPLETE work-product of Nancy Lieder. Consider ALL the time it takes to function as Emissary and scribe, and to answer emails from fans and just keep the site up. Also consider that she is pushing 70, and perhaps you can begin to appreciate the limitations she functions under!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



What does that have to do with Nancy letting herself go and getting fat and unhealthy?
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How dishonest are you, Max? Originally Nancy claimed in her little "survival guide" that the penis plug was used by aboriginals in Australia. I believe it was Prof Rabbit who demolished this claim, proving that the aboriginals did no such thing. Now you claim it was used successfully in Africa.

As for the banana bread, even for someone living in the tropics, bananas will be nonexistent after a pole shift of the magnitude that Nancy claims. Bananas don't grow in perpetual darkness. Bananas cannot be stored unless they are dried. The recipe calls for mashed bananas. If one has bananas on hand, what is the point of adding worms? I prefer walnuts in my banana bread.


>> How dishonest are you, Max?

Not dishonest, just not prepared to find and present the evidence. I was trusting that Nancy had sincerely encountered a reference to this. Even if it turns out to be a sincere mistake, there is no foul as no one would have attempted this anyway.



Nancy's fat. That means she doesn't care about her own health. Why would you think she'd care about yours?


I wouldn't. That's not the point. There's over 6000 pages of ZetaTalk - all assembled by Nancy. There's not enough hours in a day for her to reference everything, double check the accuracy of everything, test everything, do double-blind studies on everything, check spelling, etc., etc. Given ALL that content, and the circumstances under which it was all assembled, one would have to expect a few "inaccuracies" here and there.


Max, I thought the source of ZetaTalk was Nancy's planet-moving alien pals, the Zetas.

Are you saying they can't run spell-check, or keep human history straight?

Isn't that tantatmount to...<drumroll>blasphemy?

I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record! And here we've spotted *two* glaring errors...


>> I thought ZT had an unassailable 100% accuracy record!

It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.



Okay, so maybe the fat is garbling some of the message. What's stopping her from checking simple terms in an astronomy book so she's prepared for the next transmission? I can answer that. She's fat. That means she's also lazy and apathetic. That means she doesn't really care about anything. You can tell by her face she doesn't eat healthy. That's not STO, that's STS. She does nothing to help her credibility. Again, because she doesn't care about anything.


We live in a world with a HUGE division of labor. The ZetaTalk site and body of work does not benefit from that paradigm, but is instead rather the COMPLETE work-product of Nancy Lieder. Consider ALL the time it takes to function as Emissary and scribe, and to answer emails from fans and just keep the site up. Also consider that she is pushing 70, and perhaps you can begin to appreciate the limitations she functions under!!



What does that have to do with Nancy letting herself go and getting fat and unhealthy?
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It's a "sacrifice" she has selflessly made for our sake.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.
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Or Nancy is simply wrong -- by far the more believable explanation.
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It does - with "qualifications". The "transmitted message" is error free. But since Nancy is an imperfect receiver, some "inaccuracies" will inevitably result.


Or Nancy is simply wrong -- by far the more believable explanation.
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No need for a "rush" to judgment!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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"Rush"ing to judgement? It's been 15 freaking years of information that has consistently been proven to be false. How long should we wait for just one of her pronouncements to be proven true?

So with her busy schedule (holding back laughter) she is entitled to be wrong? I would think she would have then been more charitible with President Bush and his gaffes, knowing how busy he is. But I guess his "mission" wasn't as stressful as hers.

Of course. The element of doubt. That mechanism that Nancy uses to cover her fail. These aliens go to all this trouble to tell us about this rogue planet and imminent (ROFLMAO) pole shift, and then they try to cover it up so only the most gullible and malleable will believe it. They can't use a translator chip, but they can move the planets around to fool us into thinking everything is normal and then Nancy in her STO glory can belittle us for seeing and being able to prove that none of her ZetaTalk is true.

Of course Nancy didn't verify the penis plug story before including it in her "survival manual". She doesn't verify any of it.(Remembers the kite).

Just a few more days until your ultimate FAIL, Max.
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