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I've said it before but apparently I need to say it again: A tipping point is not a single event. I have outlined a lot of possibilities but I've tried to say repeatedly not a single event.

 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



Sure, NOW he's saying it's not a single event because nothing notable happened.

Had there been any remotely unusual single event in the news cycle this weekend, all the webbies would be saying it was the tipping point.
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Why is it crap? "Wild" Colleen and "Logical" Frank have appeared on the world stage JUST AS PREDICTED!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


It's all metaphor, there's no single event, the critics aren't sophisticated enough to understand the subtleties.

Unless some cab driver in Manila takes off his pants and that can be construed as a hit in which case it's to be taken as literal prognostication.
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"Wild" Colleen and "Logical" Frank have appeared on the world stage JUST AS PREDICTED!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


No, they haven't appeared on the "world stage."

They've appeared on conspiracy websites. The sites High is mining for his reports.

There's a huge difference.

Go out on the street and start asking people if they've heard of "Wild Colleen" and see how many actually have.
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Yea, he's changing his definition of the word "release"!
And where do we find "even burger flippers in Florida will
be talking about it"?

It seems that "release language" has suddenly changed from
meaning language relating to the release of tension and
pent-up emotions, which was claimed and elaborated upon at
great length by Clif in the reports, HPH posts, and Veritas
interview, to meaning "talking about people being released
from jail!"

It's pure and simple FAIL. And now you are back to
your usual equivocating bullshit having flushed your moment
of integrity down the toilet.
 Quoting: DrPostman


I say we go back to completely ignoring Max. He's making it quite clear he's just trolling by jumping from one doomsday prediction to the next and making excuses for each failure.

While we're at it, ignore Andrew as well. He's shown he is well indoctrinated in to the Nancy/ZetaTalk way of thinking. He ignores all information showing that Nancy is very wrong. And no matter how many times "Planet X" fails to show up, he'll continue to believe what Nancy tells him.
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So, what else is going on?

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So, what else is going on?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Potential bank runs don't phase you?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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I think the system is corrupt as hell and needs to fail too, but I'd rather see it fall of it's own weight, rather than brought down by intentional action. The suffering that will follow will be MASSIVE, and those who trigger it, while operating out of "good" intentions, will be partly responsible for the fallout.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



Once again, according to Nancy Lieder in less than 13 months the few remaining humans on earth will be reduced to eating worms.

So what difference does anything else make?
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So, what else is going on?

Potential bank runs don't phase you?
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



There are all sorts of POTENTIAL dangers in this world.

Why don't you let us know when there are some ACTUAL bank runs?

In the meantime keep us updated on those tipping point potholes in Detroit.
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I think the system is corrupt as hell and needs to fail too, but I'd rather see it fall of it's own weight, rather than brought down by intentional action. The suffering that will follow will be MASSIVE, and those who trigger it, while operating out of "good" intentions, will be partly responsible for the fallout.



Once again, according to Nancy Lieder in less than 13 months the few remaining humans on earth will be reduced to eating worms.

So what difference does anything else make?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583


Are you ready for it?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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mELFEY - "As the Debunker thread's resident "Native American", I suppose you OBJECT to the claims of this woman as well?"


Is Melfey now claiming to be a Native American? ie. from Indian descent? next there will be a claim to be a survivor from Custer's last stand!
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Once again, according to Nancy Lieder in less than 13 months the few remaining humans on earth will be reduced to eating worms.

So what difference does anything else make?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583

In actuality, we should all be dead now. After the 2003 "pole shift" failed to happen, Nancy and the "Zetas" said that 2012 was "too far out"...which means the "pole shift" will happen before 2012. I also consider "too far out" to be at least two years. Considering we're basically only a year away from 2012, I consider it another heaping pile of FAIL for Nancy and her "Zetas."
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mELFEY - "As the Debunker thread's resident "Native American", I suppose you OBJECT to the claims of this woman as well?"


Is Melfey now claiming to be a Native American? ie. from Indian descent? next there will be a claim to be a survivor from Custer's last stand!
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

His question/statement was aimed at KIR...meaning KIR being the resident Native American.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 11/16/2010 09:13 AM
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Once again, according to Nancy Lieder in less than 13 months the few remaining humans on earth will be reduced to eating worms.

So what difference does anything else make?

In actuality, we should all be dead now. After the 2003 "pole shift" failed to happen, Nancy and the "Zetas" said that 2012 was "too far out"...which means the "pole shift" will happen before 2012. I also consider "too far out" to be at least two years. Considering we're basically only a year away from 2012, I consider it another heaping pile of FAIL for Nancy and her "Zetas."
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


We can re-visit that question in about 13 months.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Yea, he's changing his definition of the word "release"!
And where do we find "even burger flippers in Florida will
be talking about it"?

It seems that "release language" has suddenly changed from
meaning language relating to the release of tension and
pent-up emotions, which was claimed and elaborated upon at
great length by Clif in the reports, HPH posts, and Veritas
interview, to meaning "talking about people being released
from jail!"

It's pure and simple FAIL. And now you are back to
your usual equivocating bullshit having flushed your moment
of integrity down the toilet.


I say we go back to completely ignoring Max. He's making it quite clear he's just trolling by jumping from one doomsday prediction to the next and making excuses for each failure.

While we're at it, ignore Andrew as well. He's shown he is well indoctrinated in to the Nancy/ZetaTalk way of thinking. He ignores all information showing that Nancy is very wrong. And no matter how many times "Planet X" fails to show up, he'll continue to believe what Nancy tells him.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



Seconded!!!

You never rid yourself of trolls by engaging them.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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In the meantime keep us updated on those tipping point potholes in Detroit.
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I saw an ad for the SyFy movie of the week coming up this Saturday. I forget the title, but the plot involves the Moon 'losing its orbit' and 'crashing into the Earth.'

I wonder if we'll see a small uptick (ha ha) in the posting of Moontard threads and the airing of this fine cinemtaic production?
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I thought Nancy had a major backout when she said Planet X may pass and just cause some earthquakes and stuff, can't remember exactly what it was, but it sounded relatively minor. So even if nothing happens, she'll claim Planet X was indeed here all along. It lurked around for a while and then slipped away when no one was looking. And the zetas are why we are still alive, because they averted disaster for us.

Geez, we'll never be able to find an asteroid with our name on it if we can't even locate a planet. I guess that monthly table of PHAs on spaceweather is just a crock.
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Melfey has spent too much time in a darkened drawer.

quote
90% percent of the population perishes, and the remainder return to our tribal roots.
end quote

Not so. There are 6.5 billion people on the earth, the majority are concentrated in China/India etc. The Chinese will pick themselves up, carry on and likely repopulate the world.

quote
In this scenario it's likely every human advancement is LOST and humanity reverts back to African/Aboriginal/Amazon type existence.
end quote

What complete crap, you would have a complete cross section of survivors, plus resources.

You just don't think, but your are only a sock.
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I saw an ad for the SyFy movie of the week coming up this Saturday. I forget the title, but the plot involves the Moon 'losing its orbit' and 'crashing into the Earth.'

I wonder if we'll see a small uptick (ha ha) in the posting of Moontard threads and the airing of this fine cinemtaic production?
 Quoting: The_Returner


Big_smile Well on GLP it's bound to happen. Those GLP MOONtards and SUNtards are quite a peculiar lunatic breed Imo. Actually if the truth be known they make me lol4me the most on this forum.....I mean how clueless are some of these people?
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wrong.
scientific method is:

phenomena -> theory -> facts

humans observe world around them, make assumptions what it might be and how and why, and then verify through experience or research.
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And your method is what? Is it to just let Nancy Lieder tell you what is true?
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:scicreat:

The creationists make that exact same argument too. "I believe in God and you believe in science! They're both belief and belief is faith, so you can't say that one is better than the other."

Of course faith isn't simply belief, it's strong belief even in the absence of evidence. That's a majorly important difference.


and right you are - science and religion (and philosophic systems) differ in method, otherwise it is basically the same - worldview system.

science is experimental method
religion is "blind faith", revelation/dogma
philosophy is speculative (theorizing, pondering)

in this light i would define ZetaTalk as a "philosophical system", like Buddism, or Confucianism, or Taoism.

it is a set of beliefs (basic assumptions) about the nature of reality, world (Universe), about what it is and how and why; what is the place of human in all of this and how it determines what our daily life would be.

- that definition would CERTAINLY apply to Buddism, Taosism or Confucianism.

the philosophical system (worldview) derives pronciples by which adherents guide their lives. it defines basic assumptions and "declared values".

and, in truth, in that everyone is a creator of his own worldview, a system of assumptions about the world,
everyone is creating his own personal philosophical system.
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I seriously doubt that Andrew composed this post.
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You're a true embecile. You are standing on the Earth, which is rotating. That changes the apparent orientation of the Moon. Get a friggin' clue.
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Wild Colleen's Youtube channel has gone dormant. It was under "colesakick". Now she may be using "thewildcolleen" or "wildcolleen" as channels. The first one seems to have some new acivity, but no retraction/appology/explanation vid from her.

Heh.
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Once again, according to Nancy Lieder in less than 13 months the few remaining humans on earth will be reduced to eating worms.

So what difference does anything else make?

In actuality, we should all be dead now. After the 2003 "pole shift" failed to happen, Nancy and the "Zetas" said that 2012 was "too far out"...which means the "pole shift" will happen before 2012. I also consider "too far out" to be at least two years. Considering we're basically only a year away from 2012, I consider it another heaping pile of FAIL for Nancy and her "Zetas."


We can re-visit that question in about 13 months.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Time is ticking out for you again, to be exact :

Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
736 days gone, 410 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
Nancy backpedalled first on July4th, 2009. ("Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003. Could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??") -"SOZT This is within the realm of possibility. EOZT"
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)
Nancy backpedalled second at July 18, 2009." As we have stated repeatedly, almost weekly, we will give NO indication of a timeline. "
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 18 (Page 2)
Discussionthread about previous link ;-)
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Nancy backpedalled third at August 22, 2009. "NO time frame details can be relayed, period. But…... " (p 3), (White lie again) Nancytalk "this was admitted as entirely plausible in a recent chat. Check the chat archives", "Sattelite move whithin atmosphere" (somewhere),
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 22 (Page 3)
Nancy backpedalled fourt at 5th Spt 09, SOZT ….It is still theoretically possible for a passage to cause nothing more than high tides and strong earthquakes…." EOZT, p3
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 5 (Page 5)
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Melfey has spent too much time in a darkened drawer.

quote
90% percent of the population perishes, and the remainder return to our tribal roots.
end quote

Not so. There are 6.5 billion people on the earth, the majority are concentrated in China/India etc. The Chinese will pick themselves up, carry on and likely repopulate the world.

 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


Not so fast - China is now in a state of cultural confusion. It's dynastic roots are rotted, and it's self-sufficient traditions are being more and more forgotten and lost with each passing day. Do you really think any of the young 20-something's in China are doing anything but playing video games and dreaming of driving Beamers like their Western counterparts? Who's listening to Grandmother over there anymore?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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ZetaMax
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Melfey has spent too much time in a darkened drawer.

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90% percent of the population perishes, and the remainder return to our tribal roots.
end quote

Not so. There are 6.5 billion people on the earth, the majority are concentrated in China/India etc. The Chinese will pick themselves up, carry on and likely repopulate the world.



Not so fast - China is now in a state of cultural confusion. It's dynastic roots are rotted, and it's self-sufficient traditions are being more and more forgotten and lost with each passing day. Do you really think any of the young 20-something's in China are doing anything but playing video games and dreaming of driving Beamers like their Western counterparts? Who's listening to Grandmother over there anymore?
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



Like you really know what's going on in China . . .
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Melfey has spent too much time in a darkened drawer.

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90% percent of the population perishes, and the remainder return to our tribal roots.
end quote

Not so. There are 6.5 billion people on the earth, the majority are concentrated in China/India etc. The Chinese will pick themselves up, carry on and likely repopulate the world.



Not so fast - China is now in a state of cultural confusion. It's dynastic roots are rotted, and it's self-sufficient traditions are being more and more forgotten and lost with each passing day. Do you really think any of the young 20-something's in China are doing anything but playing video games and dreaming of driving Beamers like their Western counterparts? Who's listening to Grandmother over there anymore?



Like you really know what's going on in China . . .
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Oh, didn't you know? Max is an expert on everything because he believes everything he hears. He doesn't have to think for himself or educate himself because he has people like Nancy and Clif to tell him what's what.
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ROFLMAO. Max calling BS! Classic! Of course you would think that advertising a scam on this site is ok. You support Nancy, sho did the same thing until she could no longer get away with it. Towards the end she was the laughing stock and the only way she could keep it going was by banning people and deleting their comments. Even more ironic is that Max demands proof, when he never has any to offer when asked to back up his idiotic statements. Go take a look at Clif's posts, and then take a look at what kinds of things GLP was talking about in the weeks prior to Clif's reports. It is pretty obvious to anyone that doesn't have his head up his ass that Clif borrowed ideas from GLP.
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It's funny how Max doesn't think that the Admins have banned
people for using GLP as part of a marketing scam.
 Quoting: DrPostman

It's funny how this particular Admin never misses an opportunity to try and make me look like a moran.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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It's funny how Max doesn't think that the Admins have banned
people for using GLP as part of a marketing scam.

It's funny how this particular Admin never misses an opportunity to try and make me look like a moran.
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You do that very well yourself, Max.

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