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Nancy you are a fucking idiot
Total FAIL

You retard

to those living down river of toowoomba start sandbagging

the rain keeps falling and its said brisbane may flood worse than in 74 i apologize for the angry tone.


Nancy knows very little about Australia in general, what Nancy gleans is from news tickers, Nancy gets a personal kick from death and destruction, very sad really.


For those downstream from the dam here are a couple of suggestions..

Evacuate the young and elderly NOW!

Sleep on high ground tonight.

Take your valuables/photos/items with you.

Do not assume the dam will hold, our engineers are some of the best but mother nature is a bitch!

If you live in rented accommodation pack up and get out.

Be ready to help your neighbour.

Pack food and water in your car now.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

Hope everyone stays safe in Aussieland. I was listening to the ABC stream last night and it's looking pretty bad. Probably going to be worse than 74, but before Nancy and her followers get so excited, maybe they should do a bit of research.

Australia went through many years of drought before this, which is normal. Now the water has come, and that too is normal and cyclical, harsh yes, but not unheard of. It is a land of extremes. The problem is that so many people are living in dry creek and river beds, contractors build subdivisions there thinking that something like this will never happen, but the geological history of Australia says differently.

There are species of fish and frogs that can bury themselves in the ground and go dormant for years during a drought and spring to life when the waters come. These floods are only a bad thing because people live in the way. If we take humans out of the picture, rains like the ones they are having are the lifeblood of the land.

One of my room mates is from south of Brisbane on the Gold Coast. Last night he was worried that he might not have anything to go home to because the place where he has stored his stuff was getting hammered. But he is old enough to know that this is just how it is down there. I showed him Nancy's take on the situation and we had a really good laugh.

As usual, Nancy pounces on human suffering and twists it to support her stupid "predictions". People like her love it when bad things happen to other people if it helps them further their own interests.
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One of my room mates is from south of Brisbane on the Gold Coast. Last night he was worried that he might not have anything to go home to because the place where he has stored his stuff was getting hammered. But he is old enough to know that this is just how it is down there. I showed him Nancy's take on the situation and we had a really good laugh.

As usual, Nancy pounces on human suffering and twists it to support her stupid "predictions". People like her love it when bad things happen to other people if it helps them further their own interests.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Thread: Queensland floods continue - Getting worse - Check out the video (Page 18)
I been posting over there (in Ipswich atm)
the amount of pure BS that comes from some quarters is unreal
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One of my room mates is from south of Brisbane on the Gold Coast. Last night he was worried that he might not have anything to go home to because the place where he has stored his stuff was getting hammered. But he is old enough to know that this is just how it is down there. I showed him Nancy's take on the situation and we had a really good laugh.

As usual, Nancy pounces on human suffering and twists it to support her stupid "predictions". People like her love it when bad things happen to other people if it helps them further their own interests.

Thread: Queensland floods continue - Getting worse - Check out the video (Page 18)
I been posting over there (in Ipswich atm)
the amount of pure BS that comes from some quarters is unreal
 Quoting: aussie 763624 1226057

We were watching the radar last night and it looked like it was getting hit pretty hard there. Stay dry, mate!
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I yam!!!

(if it gets to 26-28 meters I might have to do a running retreat, but atm, my sis is going to have a lovely lakeside house come thursday....)

;-)


luckily she bought a house on a hill....
(even more luckily I just bought a new 4.2m dinghy with 40hp outboard which is sitting in the backyard here

so either way, I dont plan on getting my feet too wet...
;-)
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Latest observations from the two nings...

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ouch!!!

bad enough the `other' ning is laughing at her
but
dissension in the ranks at HER ning as well

when this happened at the blog it was only days until it was nancy talking to herself (no other posters allowed)

my prediction is that SOON the ning will be the same ie for nancy `announcements' ONLY

(that being a debunkers soon, not a zetatalk soon- ie a few weeks and will actually happen LOL)

2004 wash, rinse and recycle... been there done that, got the zetabadge to prove it LOL

blog, ning- she is SO predictable....
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One of my room mates is from south of Brisbane on the Gold Coast. Last night he was worried that he might not have anything to go home to because the place where he has stored his stuff was getting hammered. But he is old enough to know that this is just how it is down there. I showed him Nancy's take on the situation and we had a really good laugh.

As usual, Nancy pounces on human suffering and twists it to support her stupid "predictions". People like her love it when bad things happen to other people if it helps them further their own interests.

Thread: Queensland floods continue - Getting worse - Check out the video (Page 18)
I been posting over there (in Ipswich atm)
the amount of pure BS that comes from some quarters is unreal

We were watching the radar last night and it looked like it was getting hit pretty hard there. Stay dry, mate!
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Well Nancy's claims are officially washed away!


quote
A massive outflow of water from upstream means that even during an incoming tide, the river is flowing out at more than 3 knots at the port and even stronger closer to the city, according to the Harbour Master Captain Richard Johnson.

He said the port stopped all ships at 10am and those that were still loading were ordered to be out to sea by midnight.
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N A N C Y-F A I L S-A G A I N !!!
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


Not even knowing that im still wondering how any water below Wivenhoe Dam got up onto the flinders rangers.

also the water above the dam, how it snuck all the way up hill back up the mountain

channel 9 did an excellent graphic on it that im trying to find

well 1000 times better than anything nancy have ever produced.it basically showed why the wall fell like it did as it headed down the valley


Is the king tide in Brisbane today or tomorrow ?

I await her to tell us thats the lifting again lol.

50 odd suburbs in the flood zone area 100000 without power.

Looks like coronation street in brisbane is covered in water already

I hope all up there remain safe
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zetasbillb
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Nope...

wrong

Why? Because the flooding is NOT caused by the eastern plate rising.
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Some on ning2 are claiming that Clif predicted the Giffords shooting.

I'm not surprised. The Cliftards are just as desperate for
proof as the Zidiots, no matter how they have to torture the
evidence.
 Quoting: DrPostman

So what am I? A "Clidiot?"
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zetasbillb


Nope...

wrong

Why? Because the flooding is NOT caused by the eastern plate rising.
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My mind remains OPEN for business! Beware of the developing NORTH AMERICAN RIP!!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The only thing your mind is open to is believing whatever Nancy and Clif tell you. You live and hope for doom. Don't deny it because you're constantly looking for the next doomsday scenario to buy in to.

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My mind remains OPEN for business! Beware of the developing NORTH AMERICAN RIP!!!!


The only thing your mind is open to is believing whatever Nancy and Clif tell you. You live and hope for doom. Don't deny it because you're constantly looking for the next doomsday scenario to buy in to.
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That's a LIE!!!

Not "constantly".

And "looking for" is NOT the same as "hoping" for. VERY DIFFERENT.

I'm RELIEVED EVERY time nothing happens!!!!!

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Look at Max spin!
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Look at Max spin!
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At least you admit it now.
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At least you admit it now.
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It's what the debunkers do.
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What kind of sicko hopes for disaster? Apparently trolls like Max. Makes me sick that people who feel more enlightened and spiritually clean than the rest of us actually feel happy when others have lost everything if they can twist it to support their craving for doom and the ravings of an obviously mentally unstable old woman and a charlatan like Clif.

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La Nina lives up to predictions
Darren Osborne
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Wednesday, 12 January 2011

The scale of the devastation caused by flood waters sweeping across vast sections of Queensland and northern NSW is mindboggling.

Some parts of the country have experienced more rain in the past month than they have over the past few years.

But in some ways this shouldn't have come as a surprise. Meteorologists were predicting the wet weather as far back as July 2010, when the early stages of La Niña appeared.

[...]

Agata Imielska, a climatologist at the Bureau of Meteorology says there were indications that a La Niña event was forming as early as late-June.

In September, the Bureau of Meteorology's 'Seasonal Rainfall Outlook' predicted a high probability of above average rainfall for large parts of northern Australia, New South Wales, South Australia and most of Western Australia.

For the next six months, the Bureau continued to put out updates showing that this La Niña was not going away quickly; in fact it was getting stronger.

[...]

Which begs the question - is it ever normal?

Imielska says, "It's definitely important to note that Australia is - it's a bit of cliché - a land of droughts and flooding rains. It is what we experience and what I suppose is considered normal for Australia."

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What kind of sicko hopes for disaster? Apparently trolls like Max. Makes me sick that people who feel more enlightened and spiritually clean than the rest of us actually feel happy when others have lost everything if they can twist it to support their craving for doom and the ravings of an obviously mentally unstable old woman and a charlatan like Clif.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Did you remember to breath while typing all of that?
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Indonesia still won't sink and Nancy is hiding from her own
nincompoops.

Just as we debunkers predicted.
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And it is supposed to happen by the 13th isn't it, so just today and tomorrow left....
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Indonesia still won't sink and Nancy is hiding from her own
nincompoops.

Just as we debunkers predicted.


And it is supposed to happen by the 13th isn't it, so just today and tomorrow left....
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It's 3:00am on the 13th here in Aussie, watch as the sock puppet jumps up and screams "Soon!"
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
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Indonesia still won't sink and Nancy is hiding from her own
nincompoops.

Just as we debunkers predicted.


And it is supposed to happen by the 13th isn't it, so just today and tomorrow left....


It's 3:00am on the 13th here in Aussie, watch as the sock puppet jumps up and screams "Soon!"
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

maildog

I am **NOT** a sockpuppet!!!!!
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I think what pissed Louis off so much was when I cornered him
into admitting where his "doctorate" came from. When I looked
up the school it turned out that he paid $250 from a diploma
mill for a doctorate in Metaphysics. One of the reasons why
I'm more of a "doctor" than he'll ever imagine.

Someone tried to promote him on GLP recently but even GLP can
only stand so much bullshit:
Thread: GOOD NEWS! DR. TURI SAYS OIL SPILL TO BE STOPPED NEXT WEEK.........
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Guess who joined GLP!
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I think what pissed Louis off so much was when I cornered him
into admitting where his "doctorate" came from. When I looked
up the school it turned out that he paid $250 from a diploma
mill for a doctorate in Metaphysics. One of the reasons why
I'm more of a "doctor" than he'll ever imagine.

Someone tried to promote him on GLP recently but even GLP can
only stand so much bullshit:
Thread: GOOD NEWS! DR. TURI SAYS OIL SPILL TO BE STOPPED NEXT WEEK.........

Guess who joined GLP!
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Not familiar with him. What's the story in a nutshell?
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Not familiar with him. What's the story in a nutshell?
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He's a "psychic" that posted vague predictions on usenet that got mad at DrPostman and threatened him with "black magic" after DrPostman started predicting what Louis Turi would predict in DrPostman's "Turi Style News" and then posted the hits that he got.
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well thankfully the floods in brisbane were a meter lower than first predicted

flooding is bad but could of been worse

The amount of sad folk running around glp destroying all flood threads with immaturity like good you deserved it has truly amazed me

we have now a cat 2 cyclone building and heading towards wa

nothing abnormal about that but if it travels as they normally do and increases in cat then its going to bring even more rain to the eastern and western states

presently victoria is being bombarded and nsw is starting to flood

as was to be expected

we are in for more wet months so areas of flooding will increase

this was an interesting post by an Ac in one of the flood threads

i had never thought about the Indian Ocean Dipoles affect with la nina before
The second half of 2010, and the start of 2011, has seen devastating floods across much of northern and eastern Australia, a pattern typical of a strong La Niña event. After the 2009 El Niño event, the world moved into a La Niña around April 2010. But how strong is this event?

Climate scientists usually examine sea surface temperatures in the central and eastern equatorial Pacific (the so-called NINO indices) to determine when we are in an El Niño or La Niña episode.

Temperatures in this region are usually lower than normal during a La Niña episode. But these temperatures have several failings, if we want to use them to rank La Niña episodes. Firstly, they are not readily available back more than about 60 years, so it is difficult to use them, for instance, to compare 2010 with events early in the 20th century.

Secondly, the general ocean warming we have seen over the past 50 or so years, due to anthropogenic enhancement of atmospheric greenhouse gases, confounds the use of these temperatures to compare a recent episode of cool temperatures with cool temperatures earlier in the record – the global warming may have offset some cooling associated with the strong, recent La Niña. This would bias any comparison between the 2010 event and earlier events, prior to the strong global warming of the second half of the 20th century.

But we can use the Southern Oscillation Index, or SOI to compare the strength of La Niña episodes across time. The SOI is the standardised difference in surface atmospheric pressure between Tahiti and Darwin. Monthly SOI values are available at www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soihtm1.shtml. Positive values of the SOI (low pressures at Darwin and high pressures at Tahiti) indicate a La Niña event.

There is no a priori reason to expect that global warming has necessarily led to long-term SOI changes that would confound our results if we use the SOI to compare historical and recent La Niña events. And values of the SOI are available from the end of the 19th century.

The SOI values confirm that we are in the middle of either the strongest La Niña event on record, or the second strongest. The SOI values for October 2010 and December 2010 were each the largest positive values on record for those months, as was the three-month average October-December 2010. If we take a longer perspective (July-December) then 1917 was stronger than 2010, but 2010 was still the second strongest in the historical record. Using either the October-December or the longer July-December periods, the strong La Niña events on 1973 and 1975 were both ranked as weaker than the 2010 event.

So, it is not surprising that we are seeing a great deal of rain and floods across much of Australia. It is worth pointing out that the Bureau of Meteorology seasonal forecast issued on 23 September indicated a strong chance of wet conditions for the period October-December across northeast Australia. These forecasts are based, partly, on the current state of the El Niño – Southern Oscillation, and it was clear months ago that we were in a La Niña. So an increased likelihood of wet conditions was certainly on the cards.

Of course we cannot make a definitive statement about the relative strength of the 2010 La Niña until the event concludes. This will, presumably, be sometime in 2011. But on the data available up to now, there is no doubt that this has been a super strong La Niña. And since La Niña events are generally followed, some months later, by global cooling, we can expect cool temperatures for quite some time.

Indian Ocean Dipole
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The phenomenon

The IOD involves an aperiodic oscillation of sea-surface temperatures, between "positive", "neutral" and "negative" phases. A positive phase sees greater-than-average sea-surface temperatures and greater precipitation in the western Indian Ocean region, with a corresponding cooling of waters in the eastern Indian Ocean—which tends to cause droughts in adjacent land areas of Indonesia and Australia. The negative phase of the IOD brings about the opposite conditions, with warmer water and greater precipitation in the eastern Indian Ocean, and cooler and drier conditions in the west.

The IOD also affects the strength of monsoons over the Indian subcontinent. A significant positive IOD occurred in 1997-8, with another in 2006. The IOD is one aspect of the general cycle of global climate, interacting with similar phenomena like the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) in the Pacific Ocean.

The IOD phenomenon was first identified by climate researchers in 1999. Yet evidence from fossil coral reefs demonstrates that the IOD has functioned since at least the middle of the Holocene period, 6500 years ago.

An average of four each positive/negative IOD events occur during each 30 year period with each event lasting around six months. However, there have been 12 positive IODs since 1980 and no negative events since 1992. The occurrence of consecutive positive IOD events are extremely rare with only two such events recorded, 1913–1914 and the three consecutive events from 2006-2008 which preceded the Black Saturday bushfires. Modelling indicates that consecutive positive events occur twice over a 1,000 year period. The positive IOD in 2007 evolved together with La Niña which is a very rare phenomenon that has happened only once in the available historical records (in 1967).
Effect on Australian Droughts

A 2009 study by Ummenhofer et al. at the University of New South Wales (UNSW) Climate Change Research Centre, has demonstrated a significant correlation between the IOD and drought in the southern half of Australia, in particular the south-east. Every major southern drought since 1889 has coincided with positive/neutral IOD fluctuations including the 1895-1902, 1937-1945 and the current 1995-present droughts.

The research shows that when the IOD is in its negative phase, with cool Indian Ocean water west of Australia and warm Timor Sea water to the north, winds are generated that pick up moisture from the ocean and then sweep down towards southern Australia to deliver higher rainfall. In the IOD positive phase, the pattern of ocean temperatures is reversed, weakening the winds and reducing the amount of moisture picked up and transported across Australia. The consequence is that rainfall in the south-east is well below average during periods of a positive IOD.

The study also shows that the IOD has a much more significant effect on the rainfall patterns in south-east Australia than the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) in the Pacific Ocean.
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What the fuck? 50% votes that nothing will happen,omfg i'm in the wrong place...honestly,fuck you...

The Mayans are 2000 years older than the bible,and they already knew how to create a calendar that's perfectly accurate in our universe before any technology even existed,and people still think this is bullshit?

It's a sun calendar okay?

Since i'm guessing you don't know shit about the sun,here's a read:
[link to viewzone2.com]

scientific evidence,and proof that we are going to die.
humans are morons,i guess they deserve it.

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What the fuck? 50% votes that nothing will happen,omfg i'm in the wrong place...honestly,fuck you...

The Mayans are 2000 years older than the bible,and they already knew how to create a calendar that's perfectly accurate in our universe before any technology even existed,and people still think this is bullshit?

It's a sun calendar okay?

Since i'm guessing you don't know shit about the sun,here's a read:
[link to viewzone2.com]

scientific evidence,and proof that we are going to die.
humans are morons,i guess they deserve it.
 Quoting: Xibalbá be


Probably are in the wrong place- as if you look at the thread name....
;-)

well I am still sitting on an `island' hilltop atm in ipswich- lucky I am such a nerd cause we been without power for 3 days now- but I got my inverter so we got limited power for paytv and internet still LOL

Lucky for us we are where we are- the water stopped 10m below us- but literally at the other end of the block this house in on!! (steep hill)

number of rubberneckers is incredible tho
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It's what the debunkers do.
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You're right...you've done more to debunk Nancy than any of us have.
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