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Yeah, sad times! I really like Postman as a mod and as a poster. You'll be missed, DrP!
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But I AM - I am skeptical of all things that claim to have a "scientific" foundation.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

And a die hard supporter of anything that can't be proven.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Well, from what I have gleaned, it appears he's banned from the board. He is taking it in stride, but I am sure an email from any of you would not go amiss.

However, such a move has prompted a decision: I shall become much less active on this board. 20 months before the 2012 drop-dead date, and now we are going to start banning posters like Postman?

Then this isn't the place for me.

Again, I find it ironic and amusing that ZM would worry about being banned by Postman or TLR; yet it always seems the true-believers and Zeta apologists are the first to pull that particular trigger. But, I am certain ZM will not miss my continued questioning of him in the least.

I shall endeavor to drop in much nearer the December 2012 date -- perhaps six months before, to post a missive regarding the undoubted continue failures of Lieder, and continue to point out the cult-like absurdities and similarities outlined very well in Festinger's 'When Prophecy Fails.'

But if Postman is gone, then so am I. Not much of a stand, I suppose, but it is the only one I can manage.

Thanks to all those who have complimented me and supported my posting in the past. I will probably still lurk, and to all those who have been debunking Nancy and other PX nonsense for the longest time, you have my gratitude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Frankly, I just wonder what HAPPENED. Ostensibly the whole ruckus was over Oh May Ga, so I have to speculate that DrP. was somehow caught up in all that. He was pretty liberal as Mods go, highly critical, yet the last one to push the ban button (and probably the first to push the unban one as well.) He must have had a past of being much more of an Oh May Ga (and his "merry" band) sympathizer than was considered "acceptable" given the assertions floating about.

Anyhow, I will miss him. I actually enjoyed our bantering (and I think he did as well.)

I'm sorry to see YOU go as well.

Look, I know what my "reputation" is - heh - why do you think I maintain a persona??

I "troll" out of frustration. I *DO* think "something" is coming and 2012 is a significant date "for some reason" - but I have no smoking gun proof for any of it. I'm frustrated mainly by the conservatism and brain-washed thinking of the masses that just go along with the status quo without question. So out of frustration, I support the "unsupportable". I've said time and again that I think ZetaTalk is actually a psyop - and time and again, no one takes the bait and attempts to discuss that angle.

I guess that's just too much a bottenless pit to explore - for if ZetaTalk were in fact a "psyop", then of course it begs the question WHY - and we're back to someone trying to HIDE something again.

Anyhow - I really don't want to go too far down that road myself anyway. If "someone" really is trying to hide something, then they won't look kindly on any efforts of mine to get at and share the truth. So it really is a NO WIN situation for me no matter HOW you slice it.

If we're all doomed in 2012 - I lose.
If nothing happens in 2012 - I "lose" (at least on the face of it).
If it's a cover for something really dark and sinister - I lose again.
And if (improbably) Nancy really is just a garden-variety nut-job - I lose.

The only "winning" is if whatever modest preparations I've made REALLY DO save me if everything does in fact GO TO HELL. (Which is why I still advocate any and all PREPARATION).

Otherwise there's no "winning" - so I EMBRACE losing.

Winning can be SO boring ...
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Well, from what I have gleaned, it appears he's banned from the board. He is taking it in stride, but I am sure an email from any of you would not go amiss.

However, such a move has prompted a decision: I shall become much less active on this board. 20 months before the 2012 drop-dead date, and now we are going to start banning posters like Postman?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

I guess that's just too much a bottenless pit to explore - for if ZetaTalk were in fact a "psyop", then of course it begs the question WHY - and we're back to someone trying to HIDE something again.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I too am perplexed over Postman's demise . . . He was, in this thread and all others, even handed. He always seemed ready to help and had common sense. I think he should be given a second chance if possible!!!!!

By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person. Could she be a victim of some type of MK Ultra program to spread disinformation and discredit anyone looking into certain areas of astronomy, physics, etc??

Last Edited by George B on 02/09/2011 09:46 AM
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Dr. Postman banned?

WTF?

If that's true, then screw this place. Damn. Though I guess it should be no surprise when the people who run a fringe conspiracy site wind up being just as shithouse nuts as some of the people they host.

Max, I've always enjoyed sparring with you. I don't think for a moment you believed half the things you pretended to support, but you were always a lot of fun.

The rest of you guys, you have my respect and my best wishes. But if TPTB see fit to ban Doc, hell, it's only a matter of time before they get around to the rest of us.

Anyway, take care, all.
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Well, from what I have gleaned, it appears he's banned from the board. He is taking it in stride, but I am sure an email from any of you would not go amiss.

However, such a move has prompted a decision: I shall become much less active on this board. 20 months before the 2012 drop-dead date, and now we are going to start banning posters like Postman?

Then this isn't the place for me.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I agree with both your reaction and stance. DrP was a level-headed MOD and helped balance out this forum. He was tolerant to the irrational in that he always extended them the same rights. Let’s be honest. When you basically tell people; “just shut up and pretend like nothing happened”, it doesn’t go over very well…especially at a place that prides itself on non-sheep like behavior. All of this is unfortunate and certainly doesn’t seem to be handled very well.
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If we're all doomed in 2012 - I lose.
If nothing happens in 2012 - I "lose" (at least on the face of it).
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Remember, Nancy has stated on numerous occasions that 2012 is "too far out"...that the "pole shift" will occur BEFORE 2012.

Of course, nothing will happen and you'll have to buy Hap his steak.
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I heard from the Dr. and yes, he is taking it with dignity and philosophy. I am sorry to see him go, and I am also sorry that my friends here are going, as will I.

Max, I think that last post is the most truthful and sincere thing you have ever posted. I will miss sparring with you too.

This thread is really the only reason I came here, and with my friends dropping like flies, I too bow out.

Take care, everyone! It has been fun!
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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I heard from the Dr. and yes, he is taking it with dignity and philosophy. I am sorry to see him go, and I am also sorry that my friends here are going, as will I.

Max, I think that last post is the most truthful and sincere thing you have ever posted. I will miss sparring with you too.

This thread is really the only reason I came here, and with my friends dropping like flies, I too bow out.

Take care, everyone! It has been fun!
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

I'll still check in once and awhile and "keep the light on". Of course if this REALLY does become a "ghost" thread, it won't be any fun for me either.
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Max, I think that last post is the most truthful and sincere thing you have ever posted. I will miss sparring with you too.

 Quoting: KeepingItReal


True that! Cheers Max.

Your approach to life isn't the healthiest, but I have my flaws as well.
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This thread is really the only reason I came here, and with my friends dropping like flies, I too bow out.

Take care, everyone! It has been fun!
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Take care KIR!

Reason has left the building...
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By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person.
 Quoting: George B


How much detailed information came out of the one brain of Isaac Asimov? Or Arthur C. Clarke? Or J. R. R. Tolkien?

And all of it much more cohesive and original than all of ZetaTalk.
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Anyway, ditto what everyone else is saying.

This place won't be any fun without Dr. Postman.
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By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person.
 Quoting: George B


How much detailed information came out of the one brain of Isaac Asimov? Or Arthur C. Clarke? Or J. R. R. Tolkien?

And all of it much more cohesive and original than all of ZetaTalk.
 Quoting: Henry Fnord (NLI) 1167045

Are you placing Nancy in the same league as Asimov and Clarke????????????????
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By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person.
 Quoting: George B


How much detailed information came out of the one brain of Isaac Asimov? Or Arthur C. Clarke? Or J. R. R. Tolkien?

And all of it much more cohesive and original than all of ZetaTalk.
 Quoting: Henry Fnord (NLI) 1167045

Are you placing Nancy in the same league as Asimov and Clarke????????????????
 Quoting: George B


Only in terms of "quantity".
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By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person.
 Quoting: George B


How much detailed information came out of the one brain of Isaac Asimov? Or Arthur C. Clarke? Or J. R. R. Tolkien?

And all of it much more cohesive and original than all of ZetaTalk.
 Quoting: Henry Fnord (NLI) 1167045

Are you placing Nancy in the same league as Asimov and Clarke????????????????
 Quoting: George B


Only in terms of "quantity".
 Quoting: Setheory 869850

In terms of quantity . . . I still think one elder woman would have a real problem with years and years of crap without some type of significant assistance and/or interference . . . and the interference having resources. I realize she has gaffs, etc. yet the volume of stuff keeps pouring out seemingly without limit.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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How much detailed information came out of the one brain of Isaac Asimov? Or Arthur C. Clarke? Or J. R. R. Tolkien?

And all of it much more cohesive and original than all of ZetaTalk.
 Quoting: Henry Fnord (NLI) 1167045

Are you placing Nancy in the same league as Asimov and Clarke????????????????
 Quoting: George B


Only in terms of "quantity".
 Quoting: Setheory 869850

In terms of quantity . . . I still think one elder woman would have a real problem with years and years of crap without some type of significant assistance and/or interference . . . and the interference having resources. I realize she has gaffs, etc. yet the volume of stuff keeps pouring out seemingly without limit.
 Quoting: George B


The scenario you speak of is certainly a possibility. I think it is also possible that she has created the entirety that is ZetaTalk all on her own. This would take much time and commitment…. but let’s be honest, it’s not like Nancy spends her days walking her dog or her nights clubbing.

<laughing>

Yes, I realize that many of you will be tempted to post a humorous response about “clubbing” and “dogs”, but try to resist………………………………………………………………Nevermind, go ahead if you want.
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Are you placing Nancy in the same league as Asimov and Clarke????????????????
 Quoting: George B


Only in terms of "quantity".
 Quoting: Setheory 869850

In terms of quantity . . . I still think one elder woman would have a real problem with years and years of crap without some type of significant assistance and/or interference . . . and the interference having resources. I realize she has gaffs, etc. yet the volume of stuff keeps pouring out seemingly without limit.
 Quoting: George B


The scenario you speak of is certainly a possibility. I think it is also possible that she has created the entirety that is ZetaTalk all on her own. This would take much time and commitment…. but let’s be honest, it’s not like Nancy spends her days walking her dog or her nights clubbing.

<laughing>

Yes, I realize that many of you will be tempted to post a humorous response about “clubbing” and “dogs”, but try to resist………………………………………………………………Nevermind, go ahead if you want.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


There are always new dog recipes to try, after all she has to keep her two followers happy.
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Are you placing Nancy in the same league as Asimov and Clarke????????????????
 Quoting: George B


Only in terms of "quantity".
 Quoting: Setheory 869850

In terms of quantity . . . I still think one elder woman would have a real problem with years and years of crap without some type of significant assistance and/or interference . . . and the interference having resources. I realize she has gaffs, etc. yet the volume of stuff keeps pouring out seemingly without limit.
 Quoting: George B


The scenario you speak of is certainly a possibility. I think it is also possible that she has created the entirety that is ZetaTalk all on her own. This would take much time and commitment…. but let’s be honest, it’s not like Nancy spends her days walking her dog or her nights clubbing.

<laughing>

Yes, I realize that many of you will be tempted to post a humorous response about “clubbing” and “dogs”, but try to resist………………………………………………………………Nevermind, go ahead if you want.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850

I give her ability to create the whole thing, sustain it for years, as well as being able to maintain a loyal following of accomplices as quite difficult . . . I say only one in three.

Last Edited by George B on 02/09/2011 04:44 PM
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I heard from the Dr. and yes, he is taking it with dignity and philosophy. I am sorry to see him go, and I am also sorry that my friends here are going, as will I.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


For the last year we have been giving the ning grief about their rules and banning policies…with good reason.

It will be interesting to see how consistent we are with our scorn.
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I heard from the Dr. and yes, he is taking it with dignity and philosophy. I am sorry to see him go, and I am also sorry that my friends here are going, as will I.

Max, I think that last post is the most truthful and sincere thing you have ever posted. I will miss sparring with you too.

This thread is really the only reason I came here, and with my friends dropping like flies, I too bow out.

Take care, everyone! It has been fun!
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


take care after the shit thats gone down ive decided not to stay.

Take care fun conversing maybe see ya on other boards somewhere in cyberspace
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I'm going silent too.

I have better things to do with my time right now - got a couple good sideline writing projects that pay a decent rate.

Need the extra money to finish up the house I bought - needs cabinets, appliances, air conditioning, etc...typical Florida foreclosure.

As for zetasquawk, it's still there...just not going to get updated for a while...unless Nancy or her sheep make a really good gaffe.
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I'm going silent too.

I have better things to do with my time right now - got a couple good sideline writing projects that pay a decent rate.

Need the extra money to finish up the house I bought - needs cabinets, appliances, air conditioning, etc...typical Florida foreclosure.

As for zetasquawk, it's still there...just not going to get updated for a while...unless Nancy or her sheep make a really good gaffe.
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Take care Bob.

What a shame...I wish you all the best.
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I was on leave by the coast so I missed what happened, can someone update me?
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I was on leave by the coast so I missed what happened, can someone update me?
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Dr. Postman was banned and of course removed as a Mod etc. Many of us are don't understand the actions . . . Some are leaving in protest. . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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I too am perplexed over Postman's demise . . . He was, in this thread and all others, even handed. He always seemed ready to help and had common sense. I think he should be given a second chance if possible!!!!!

By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person. Could she be a victim of some type of MK Ultra program to spread disinformation and discredit anyone looking into certain areas of astronomy, physics, etc??
 Quoting: George B

I don't know, there are a lot of internal contradictions in the Zetatalk canon, a lot of which have been pointed out in this thread. And the Zetas' messages sometimes have the kind of passive-aggressive personal sniping that you'd expect if the whole thing was just a vehicle for Nancy's frustration with herself, others, and the world at large. I wouldn't expect to see that kind of thing if it was any kind of well-thought-out, large-scale operation.
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I too am perplexed over Postman's demise . . . He was, in this thread and all others, even handed. He always seemed ready to help and had common sense. I think he should be given a second chance if possible!!!!!

By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person. Could she be a victim of some type of MK Ultra program to spread disinformation and discredit anyone looking into certain areas of astronomy, physics, etc??
 Quoting: George B

I don't know, there are a lot of internal contradictions in the Zetatalk canon, a lot of which have been pointed out in this thread. And the Zetas' messages sometimes have the kind of passive-aggressive personal sniping that you'd expect if the whole thing was just a vehicle for Nancy's frustration with herself, others, and the world at large. I wouldn't expect to see that kind of thing if it was any kind of well-thought-out, large-scale operation.
 Quoting: Marquis

I see the same behavior in major academic departments of universities world wide. . . You think they are being influenced by the same forces! LoL!!!!!!!

Last Edited by George B on 02/10/2011 09:54 AM
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I too am perplexed over Postman's demise . . . He was, in this thread and all others, even handed. He always seemed ready to help and had common sense. I think he should be given a second chance if possible!!!!!

By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person. Could she be a victim of some type of MK Ultra program to spread disinformation and discredit anyone looking into certain areas of astronomy, physics, etc??
 Quoting: George B

I don't know, there are a lot of internal contradictions in the Zetatalk canon, a lot of which have been pointed out in this thread. And the Zetas' messages sometimes have the kind of passive-aggressive personal sniping that you'd expect if the whole thing was just a vehicle for Nancy's frustration with herself, others, and the world at large. I wouldn't expect to see that kind of thing if it was any kind of well-thought-out, large-scale operation.
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Disinformation doesn't have to be "perfect". The point is that Nancy assembles a LOT of information which has an impressive internal consistency (if not "external") - which by ordinary human standards is a LOT OF WORK. I've been to her house - it is NOT a research library by ANY stretch. I personnally witnessed one of her "chats" as she was doing it - and she really was just typing away at like 150 words a minute answering questions just as they came in from the questioners. Her ability to answer all these diverse questions live and in real time was impressive, if indeed lacking in precision. Now, I wasn't looking over her shoulder, and it could be that she was copying from another screen where the answers were being fed to her by an offsite "team" - but that is purely speculation. Nancy would certainly be allowed to put such info in her "own words" - sniping away as you put it.

But if she really was "channelling" this information, then she was also putting her "gloss" on it too, but putting that "spin" on detailed information she was getting either auditorially, or visually or in some way that is not the "norm".

Ordinary people cannot just "make up" stuff that consistently, and that rapidly. Something "ELSE" is definitly going on.
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Disinformation doesn't have to be "perfect". The point is that Nancy assembles a LOT of information which has an impressive internal consistency (if not "external") - which by ordinary human standards is a LOT OF WORK. I've been to her house - it is NOT a research library by ANY stretch. I personnally witnessed one of her "chats" as she was doing it - and she really was just typing away at like 150 words a minute answering questions just as they came in from the questioners. Her ability to answer all these diverse questions live and in real time was impressive, if indeed lacking in precision. Now, I wasn't looking over her shoulder, and it could be that she was copying from another screen where the answers were being fed to her by an offsite "team" - but that is purely speculation. Nancy would certainly be allowed to put such info in her "own words" - sniping away as you put it.

But if she really was "channelling" this information, then she was also putting her "gloss" on it too, but putting that "spin" on detailed information she was getting either auditorially, or visually or in some way that is not the "norm".

Ordinary people cannot just "make up" stuff that consistently, and that rapidly. Something "ELSE" is definitly going on.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

I think you underestimate the extent to which people can come up with things like this, as well as the number of contradictions within Zetatalk. Nancy's been doing this for many, many years now and has an established base of first principles to build upon. Enough practice results in fluency, especially when you don't need to check for internal consistency. She doesn't need a research library because 99% of what she says is either made-up or simply available on the Internet. In fact, a lot of what the "Zetas" have been saying in the last few months has been berating people for stressing Nancy out when she has to spend time learning about plate tectonics and things like that.

Beyond that, a lot of her chat sessions, these days at least, are simply repetitions of earlier Zetatalk or "what's going to happen in this particular region?" Not exactly the hardest thing to pull off. You could make a case that she has a talent for writing on the fly, but there's nothing superhuman about it.

Besides Max, you of all people should know that it's not too difficult to adopt a "persona" and answer questions as if you're that person...!
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
I too am perplexed over Postman's demise . . . He was, in this thread and all others, even handed. He always seemed ready to help and had common sense. I think he should be given a second chance if possible!!!!!

By-the-way, I also feel Nancy and her group are a type of PsyOp . . . the information she uses is way too detailed and orchestrated to only come out of the brain of one person. Could she be a victim of some type of MK Ultra program to spread disinformation and discredit anyone looking into certain areas of astronomy, physics, etc??
 Quoting: George B

I don't know, there are a lot of internal contradictions in the Zetatalk canon, a lot of which have been pointed out in this thread. And the Zetas' messages sometimes have the kind of passive-aggressive personal sniping that you'd expect if the whole thing was just a vehicle for Nancy's frustration with herself, others, and the world at large. I wouldn't expect to see that kind of thing if it was any kind of well-thought-out, large-scale operation.
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Disinformation doesn't have to be "perfect". The point is that Nancy assembles a LOT of information which has an impressive internal consistency (if not "external") - which by ordinary human standards is a LOT OF WORK. I've been to her house - it is NOT a research library by ANY stretch. I personnally witnessed one of her "chats" as she was doing it - and she really was just typing away at like 150 words a minute answering questions just as they came in from the questioners. Her ability to answer all these diverse questions live and in real time was impressive, if indeed lacking in precision. Now, I wasn't looking over her shoulder, and it could be that she was copying from another screen where the answers were being fed to her by an offsite "team" - but that is purely speculation. Nancy would certainly be allowed to put such info in her "own words" - sniping away as you put it.

But if she really was "channelling" this information, then she was also putting her "gloss" on it too, but putting that "spin" on detailed information she was getting either auditorially, or visually or in some way that is not the "norm".

Ordinary people cannot just "make up" stuff that consistently, and that rapidly. Something "ELSE" is definitly going on.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Max, I find your experience very interesting. Would you say she was in some type of trance, or altered state of awareness? I too believe what she does is too exhausting for someone of her age year after year. While her information is available elsewhere to keep it logical at all is a major undertaking. I easily believe she is getting help and/or is being influenced by techniques she is not aware of . . . in both case she is a victim as much as a villain.
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