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They don't have a lot of choice, but I would think that with so many volcanoes thermoelectric might be an option, like they have in Iceland. Not a fan of nuclear energy but I understand that in some cases it is the only viable option for a country.
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And maybe wind and solar are becoming more viable.
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I think inevitably we need to change the way we distribute energy for home consumption. Now we have private or public corporations producing and selling to each home. We should be looking at ways to make homes produce a good part of their own energy, each house a little self sufficient source of energy. Houses can use solar power in the seasons where it is viable. Where I am, not viable in the winter where we only get less than 8 hours daylight, but in the summer, we have more than 16 hours of daylight. Simple things like the heat from the dryer vent or the stove could be recycled instead of blowing it outside. Even rain water flowing down gutters could be used to generate power, and don't forget the methane from our waste. If every house could produce some of it's own energy we would need to buy less from the grid. I know there have been innovative inventions at certain universities, but I doubt the big power companies and even governments who need the revenue would be willing to let this happen. Years ago a friend invented a mini waterwheel to generate electricity from rainwater on its way to the gutter, some company bought the patent and has been sitting on it ever since.
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I have nothing against nuclear power. I think we've come a good distance. Think of how many nuclear power plants there are worldwide and compare that to the number of accidents. My main concern is the left over waste. It's unfortunate we can't just shoot it in to deep space or in to the sun. Both of you are right though...thermal, wind and solar are becoming more viable options. Just think about how much electricity would be needed from the grid if every house and building was covered with solar panels. Then, if every home and business complex also had a few wind turbines, that would cut it down a little bit more. There's really no reason why we can't do that now...it's all about money. Most people would rather continue crapping on the planet instead of trying to fix things for future generations.

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Just think about how much electricity would be needed from the grid if every house and building was covered with solar panels. Then, if every home and business complex also had a few wind turbines, that would cut it down a little bit more. There's really no reason why we can't do that now...it's all about money. Most people would rather continue crapping on the planet instead of trying to fix things for future generations.
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Might as well take advantage of all that unused roof space on homes and commercial buildings.
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They have solar cells that look just like roof shingles. You can cover every home with these things. I don't know why home builders aren't doing it with new homes now. Sure, it will add to the price of the home...but the homeowner will see that in savings when their utility bill isn't as high.

The only problem I see with small wind turbines is that a lot of HOA gestapo controlled neighborhoods frown on these types of things.

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The only problem I see with small wind turbines is that a lot of HOA controlled gestapo neighborhoods frown on these types of things.
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By law, HOAs can't ban the small satellite dishes. You'd think that the government could do the same for wind turbines in the interest of clean energy.
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The fatal human flaw has been identified, and it is called the "NORMALCY BIAS". People base most of their decisions on this outlook, and simply failed to provide for the adequate backup because ... well ... THEY DON'T HAVE A DOOM MENTALITY like I do. "Optimism" is a CANCER.
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Really?

Tell me, ZM, do you ever drive a car? Are you ever a passenger in one?
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It's amazing he can sleep at night constantly thinking about doom.
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The fatal human flaw has been identified, and it is called the "NORMALCY BIAS". People base most of their decisions on this outlook, and simply failed to provide for the adequate backup because ... well ... THEY DON'T HAVE A DOOM MENTALITY like I do. "Optimism" is a CANCER.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Really?

Tell me, ZM, do you ever drive a car? Are you ever a passenger in one?
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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance. My Blazer "High Rider" was purchased new in 2001 and now has over 105,000 miles on it. I've done almost nothing to it except change oil, and I just put two new rear tires on it. The front tires are still factory original and still have so much tread left, they can easily go another 20-30,000 miles. The decision to own such a vehicle may seem a bit "extreme" since I don't use it for serious off-roading (which is what it was truly built for), but that decision paid off BIG just this winter. I was driving on a snow covered road doing 50 mph when an oncoming truck started creeping over the center lane. I was forced to move right and my right side tires lost traction in what probably was the snow covered shoulder. The vehicle fish tailed and then headed off the road at 45 degree angle into a 4 foot deep drainage ditch. Not fighting the inevitable I decided to steer straight into the ditch - at 50 mph. The Blazer went airborn, but due to my fast reaction it hit the opposite sloping side of the ditch at such an angle that it enabled the vehicle to climb the ditch wall - thanks entirely to the high clearance. I "drove" up the opposite site, regained some control and "decided" I didn't want to remain in the ditch so I turned the other way, drove down into the ditch and up the opposite side and popped out onto the road - going airborne "again" in the process. I headed down the road again and the vehicle felt "fine" - solid. Got home and the only damage was the plastic wheel well flange and some screw supports for the grill and headlight bezel. Otherwise, NORMAL. Even the wheel alignment held up. If I had done that maneuver in an ordinary car, the car would have been TOTALED and both me and my daughter would probably have been injured (or worse). And yes - the Blazer was in 4 wheel drive mode at the time - which enabled me to retain some control throughout the ordeal.

My PESSIMISM saved me - not my "optimism". I was PREPARED for the worst - and as a result survived it physically AND financially when the danger materialized.

SO THERE

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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Still a car. Just a type of car.
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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance.
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Still a car. Just a type of car.
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No - a "truck" is not a "car". Though both are "vehicles" if you truly want to split hairs about it.

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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Still a car. Just a type of car.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


And they say TONKA on the bottom....
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The fatal human flaw has been identified, and it is called the "NORMALCY BIAS". People base most of their decisions on this outlook, and simply failed to provide for the adequate backup because ... well ... THEY DON'T HAVE A DOOM MENTALITY like I do. "Optimism" is a CANCER.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Really?

Tell me, ZM, do you ever drive a car? Are you ever a passenger in one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance. My Blazer "High Rider" was purchased new in 2001 and now has over 105,000 miles on it. I've done almost nothing to it except change oil, and I just put two new rear tires on it. The front tires are still factory original and still have so much tread left, they can easily go another 20-30,000 miles. The decision to own such a vehicle may seem a bit "extreme" since I don't use it for serious off-roading (which is what it was truly built for), but that decision paid off BIG just this winter. I was driving on a snow covered road doing 50 mph when an oncoming truck started creeping over the center lane. I was forced to move right and my right side tires lost traction in what probably was the snow covered shoulder. The vehicle fish tailed and then headed off the road at 45 degree angle into a 4 foot deep drainage ditch. Not fighting the inevitable I decided to steer straight into the ditch - at 50 mph. The Blazer went airborn, but due to my fast reaction it hit the opposite sloping side of the ditch at such an angle that it enabled the vehicle to climb the ditch wall - thanks entirely to the high clearance. I "drove" up the opposite site, regained some control and "decided" I didn't want to remain in the ditch so I turned the other way, drove down into the ditch and up the opposite side and popped out onto the road - going airborne "again" in the process. I headed down the road again and the vehicle felt "fine" - solid. Got home and the only damage was the plastic wheel well flange and some screw supports for the grill and headlight bezel. Otherwise, NORMAL. Even the wheel alignment held up. If I had done that maneuver in an ordinary car, the car would have been TOTALED and both me and my daughter would probably have been injured (or worse). And yes - the Blazer was in 4 wheel drive mode at the time - which enabled me to retain some control throughout the ordeal.

My PESSIMISM saved me - not my "optimism". I was PREPARED for the worst - and as a result survived it physically AND financially when the danger materialized.

SO THERE
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


...and after your supposed pole shift it will be a useless piece of metal.
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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance.
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Still a car. Just a type of car.
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And they say TONKA on the bottom....
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The fatal human flaw has been identified, and it is called the "NORMALCY BIAS". People base most of their decisions on this outlook, and simply failed to provide for the adequate backup because ... well ... THEY DON'T HAVE A DOOM MENTALITY like I do. "Optimism" is a CANCER.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Really?

Tell me, ZM, do you ever drive a car? Are you ever a passenger in one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance. My Blazer "High Rider" was purchased new in 2001 and now has over 105,000 miles on it. I've done almost nothing to it except change oil, and I just put two new rear tires on it. The front tires are still factory original and still have so much tread left, they can easily go another 20-30,000 miles. The decision to own such a vehicle may seem a bit "extreme" since I don't use it for serious off-roading (which is what it was truly built for), but that decision paid off BIG just this winter. I was driving on a snow covered road doing 50 mph when an oncoming truck started creeping over the center lane. I was forced to move right and my right side tires lost traction in what probably was the snow covered shoulder. The vehicle fish tailed and then headed off the road at 45 degree angle into a 4 foot deep drainage ditch. Not fighting the inevitable I decided to steer straight into the ditch - at 50 mph. The Blazer went airborn, but due to my fast reaction it hit the opposite sloping side of the ditch at such an angle that it enabled the vehicle to climb the ditch wall - thanks entirely to the high clearance. I "drove" up the opposite site, regained some control and "decided" I didn't want to remain in the ditch so I turned the other way, drove down into the ditch and up the opposite side and popped out onto the road - going airborne "again" in the process. I headed down the road again and the vehicle felt "fine" - solid. Got home and the only damage was the plastic wheel well flange and some screw supports for the grill and headlight bezel. Otherwise, NORMAL. Even the wheel alignment held up. If I had done that maneuver in an ordinary car, the car would have been TOTALED and both me and my daughter would probably have been injured (or worse). And yes - the Blazer was in 4 wheel drive mode at the time - which enabled me to retain some control throughout the ordeal.

My PESSIMISM saved me - not my "optimism". I was PREPARED for the worst - and as a result survived it physically AND financially when the danger materialized.

SO THERE
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


...and after your supposed pole shift it will be a useless piece of metal.
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The fatal human flaw has been identified, and it is called the "NORMALCY BIAS". People base most of their decisions on this outlook, and simply failed to provide for the adequate backup because ... well ... THEY DON'T HAVE A DOOM MENTALITY like I do. "Optimism" is a CANCER.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Really?

Tell me, ZM, do you ever drive a car? Are you ever a passenger in one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance. My Blazer "High Rider" was purchased new in 2001 and now has over 105,000 miles on it. I've done almost nothing to it except change oil, and I just put two new rear tires on it. The front tires are still factory original and still have so much tread left, they can easily go another 20-30,000 miles. The decision to own such a vehicle may seem a bit "extreme" since I don't use it for serious off-roading (which is what it was truly built for), but that decision paid off BIG just this winter. I was driving on a snow covered road doing 50 mph when an oncoming truck started creeping over the center lane. I was forced to move right and my right side tires lost traction in what probably was the snow covered shoulder. The vehicle fish tailed and then headed off the road at 45 degree angle into a 4 foot deep drainage ditch. Not fighting the inevitable I decided to steer straight into the ditch - at 50 mph. The Blazer went airborn, but due to my fast reaction it hit the opposite sloping side of the ditch at such an angle that it enabled the vehicle to climb the ditch wall - thanks entirely to the high clearance. I "drove" up the opposite site, regained some control and "decided" I didn't want to remain in the ditch so I turned the other way, drove down into the ditch and up the opposite side and popped out onto the road - going airborne "again" in the process. I headed down the road again and the vehicle felt "fine" - solid. Got home and the only damage was the plastic wheel well flange and some screw supports for the grill and headlight bezel. Otherwise, NORMAL. Even the wheel alignment held up. If I had done that maneuver in an ordinary car, the car would have been TOTALED and both me and my daughter would probably have been injured (or worse). And yes - the Blazer was in 4 wheel drive mode at the time - which enabled me to retain some control throughout the ordeal.

My PESSIMISM saved me - not my "optimism". I was PREPARED for the worst - and as a result survived it physically AND financially when the danger materialized.

SO THERE
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...and after your supposed pole shift it will be a useless piece of metal.
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Quite true - and ridiculously OBVIOUS. What's your point?
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No - a "truck" is not a "car". Though both are "vehicles" if you truly want to split hairs about it.


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You knew what he meant so, really, you're the only one splitting hairs about it.
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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance.
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wetcement

So in what colour is your other 4X4 there, Melfy lol4me ?
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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance.
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 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


wetcement

So in what colour is your other 4X4 there, Melfy lol4me ?


One is black and the other is white.
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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance.
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Still a car. Just a type of car.
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And they say TONKA on the bottom....
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I don't drive a "car". I own two 4X4's - both with beefy suspensions, skid plates and high clearance. My Blazer "High Rider" was purchased new in 2001 and now has over 105,000 miles on it. I've done almost nothing to it except change oil, and I just put two new rear tires on it. The front tires are still factory original and still have so much tread left, they can easily go another 20-30,000 miles. The decision to own such a vehicle may seem a bit "extreme" since I don't use it for serious off-roading (which is what it was truly built for), but that decision paid off BIG just this winter. I was driving on a snow covered road doing 50 mph when an oncoming truck started creeping over the center lane. I was forced to move right and my right side tires lost traction in what probably was the snow covered shoulder. The vehicle fish tailed and then headed off the road at 45 degree angle into a 4 foot deep drainage ditch. Not fighting the inevitable I decided to steer straight into the ditch - at 50 mph. The Blazer went airborn, but due to my fast reaction it hit the opposite sloping side of the ditch at such an angle that it enabled the vehicle to climb the ditch wall - thanks entirely to the high clearance. I "drove" up the opposite site, regained some control and "decided" I didn't want to remain in the ditch so I turned the other way, drove down into the ditch and up the opposite side and popped out onto the road - going airborne "again" in the process. I headed down the road again and the vehicle felt "fine" - solid. Got home and the only damage was the plastic wheel well flange and some screw supports for the grill and headlight bezel. Otherwise, NORMAL. Even the wheel alignment held up. If I had done that maneuver in an ordinary car, the car would have been TOTALED and both me and my daughter would probably have been injured (or worse). And yes - the Blazer was in 4 wheel drive mode at the time - which enabled me to retain some control throughout the ordeal.

My PESSIMISM saved me - not my "optimism". I was PREPARED for the worst - and as a result survived it physically AND financially when the danger materialized.

SO THERE
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Glad you and your daughter came out of that all right. But you miss my point, entirely.

That you operate or ride in ANY vehicle -- AT ALL -- is far more dangerous than the things you repeatedly advise people here to overprepare for.

Your chances of dying in an Earthquake: 1 in approximately 153,000.

A Storm? About 1 in 51,000

Electricity or Radiation? About 1 in 9400.

Now -- a VEHICLE where you are a passenger? 1 in 272.

A VEHICLE where you are DRIVING? 1 in 85.

YET: you own and operate vehicles on a near daily basis, I'll wager. Were you RATIONAL in your PESSIMISM: you should not drive AT ALL. You should tell your daughter to never set foot in a car or truck AGAIN. EVER.

After all, the odds of dying as a pedestrian are only about 1 in 623. If you were "consistent" in your "pessimism" you would sell your vehicles at this very moment.

But you won't.

You routinely advise (or support those that advise) truly astonishing amounts of so-called preparations for events that are ridiculously unlikely to happen -- yet for those fatal occurrences of every day, you remain, to use YOUR phrase, "optimistic."

Your particular flavor of "doomer" mentality is quite illogical. You should consider critically reexamining it.
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Glad you and your daughter came out of that all right. But you miss my point, entirely.

That you operate or ride in ANY vehicle -- AT ALL -- is far more dangerous than the things you repeatedly advise people here to overprepare for.

Your chances of dying in an Earthquake: 1 in approximately 153,000.

A Storm? About 1 in 51,000

Electricity or Radiation? About 1 in 9400.

Now -- a VEHICLE where you are a passenger? 1 in 272.

A VEHICLE where you are DRIVING? 1 in 85.

YET: you own and operate vehicles on a near daily basis, I'll wager. Were you RATIONAL in your PESSIMISM: you should not drive AT ALL. You should tell your daughter to never set foot in a car or truck AGAIN. EVER.

After all, the odds of dying as a pedestrian are only about 1 in 623. If you were "consistent" in your "pessimism" you would sell your vehicles at this very moment.

But you won't.

You routinely advise (or support those that advise) truly astonishing amounts of so-called preparations for events that are ridiculously unlikely to happen -- yet for those fatal occurrences of every day, you remain, to use YOUR phrase, "optimistic."

Your particular flavor of "doomer" mentality is quite illogical. You should consider critically reexamining it.
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Glad you and your daughter came out of that all right. But you miss my point, entirely.

That you operate or ride in ANY vehicle -- AT ALL -- is far more dangerous than the things you repeatedly advise people here to overprepare for.

Your chances of dying in an Earthquake: 1 in approximately 153,000.

A Storm? About 1 in 51,000

Electricity or Radiation? About 1 in 9400.

Now -- a VEHICLE where you are a passenger? 1 in 272.

A VEHICLE where you are DRIVING? 1 in 85.

YET: you own and operate vehicles on a near daily basis, I'll wager. Were you RATIONAL in your PESSIMISM: you should not drive AT ALL. You should tell your daughter to never set foot in a car or truck AGAIN. EVER.

After all, the odds of dying as a pedestrian are only about 1 in 623. If you were "consistent" in your "pessimism" you would sell your vehicles at this very moment.

But you won't.

You routinely advise (or support those that advise) truly astonishing amounts of so-called preparations for events that are ridiculously unlikely to happen -- yet for those fatal occurrences of every day, you remain, to use YOUR phrase, "optimistic."

Your particular flavor of "doomer" mentality is quite illogical. You should consider critically reexamining it.
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+1000
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


>> Glad you and your daughter came out of that all right. But you miss my point, entirely.

Thank you. Of all the debunkers, you are by far the most civil and considerate. CB is second - but *not* a close second. (He's just not as big an ASS as the others).

We're all DOOMED. None of us get out of here "alive". But being a bit "paranoid" and safety conscious does much more than just keep you out of the coffin. I'm 48, and so far, live almost entirely pain free. I don't have the bad back, knees, feet, hips, wrists, etc. etc. that so many other folks have at my age. I don't push my body to the extreme and I take precautions in most of the endeavors I undertake in life. Now of course some of that is just "luck" - but most of it results from just plain "defensive" living. Living "defensively" doesn't mean not taking "risks" - but rather reducing risk, mitigating it, managing it wisely. As a result I last longer, and everything I own lasts longer as well. Everything in life is a risk/reward equation. I'm not an adrenaline junkie, and don't "thrill" that easily - so it's a lot easier for my to avoid things like motorcycles and snowmobiles and not feel that I was missing anything. (I've ridden both and they were fun - but for me, not exponentially so). But in modern society, especially in the midwest, not driving is really *not* an option. In fact I've easily logged over a million miles behind the wheel since I first got my license 22 years ago. Having done SO MUCH driving without a major injury inducing accident (though I've had about ten fender benders - only two being my fault), is largely a result of being a VERY defensive driver. I *NEVER* trust the other driver to do the right thing, and that attitude has kept me out of numerous accidents. Having a rugged vehicle helps as well. Because of these extra defensive factors, I can assure you, the stats *DON'T* apply to me. The odds of "my" being in severe accident are QUITE a bit less than average. I can assure you.
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Don't worry Max, the feelings mutual. Well, it wasn't until your comment. User was by far the biggest ass. You come in a close second. Everything you get from me is reciprocal of what you give.

Anyway, I thought I would share this:

Thread: Interesting ZT-A NASA satellite designed to study aerosols influence was deliberately brought down as a message

Apparently, Nancy and the "Zetas" forgot there were/are spy satellites in orbit that can do exactly what they're supposedly trying to prevent.

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Don't worry Max, the feelings mutual. Well, it wasn't until your comment. User was by far the biggest ass. You come in a close second. Everything you get from me is reciprocal of what you give.

Anyway, I thought I would share this:

Thread: Interesting ZT-A NASA satellite designed to study aerosols influence was deliberately brought down as a message

Apparently, Nancy and the "Zetas" forgot there were/are spy satellites in orbit that can do exactly what they're supposedly trying to prevent.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Listened to Clif last night!!! He's sticking to his March 25th date as the day critical food shortages begin, and then escalate from there. He also reiterated that the "ill winds" language is still as strong as ever, and he DOES believe that radiation from the Japan nuclear facilities is very well the "poison" that will cause hundreds of millions of deaths globally, and be responsible for a MASSIVE diaspora of people desperately attempting to get above the 40th parallel. I currently live above the 42nd parallel and all of Chicago is above the 40th - which is why I suspect Rahm Emanual is Chicago's new mayor. Sitting on the largest fresh water body in the world, and given it's strategic location, I've suspected for a while that Chicago will be "Fortress Chicago" and may indeed become the country's new capital city if DC becomes uninhabitle for whatever reason. Consider that Obama is "ostensibly" from here, having served as an Illinois senator. He maintains his "permanent residence" in Chicago as well, and of course stays there whenever he's in town.

There are NO co-oincidences I'm sure in ALL of this. Chicago has been identified as EXTREMELY important to the elite. As to "why", we can only speculate ...

GET READY!!
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You go ahead and believe him. Why you want to put so much faith in all these false prophets is beyond me. You continue to support Nancy even though her "rogue planet" continues to be a no show. Although, I've noticed you aren't supporting her as much as you are Clif....who has also been wrong numerous times. That being the case, I guess we're going from debunking Nancy to debunking Clif. So, we'll be here to listen to you spin this latest prediction when it fails in just two weeks. After all, we know you won't simply admit he was wrong...you didn't the last couple of times.
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You go ahead and believe him. Why you want to put so much faith in all these false prophets is beyond me. You continue to support Nancy even though her "rogue planet" continues to be a no show. Although, I've noticed you aren't supporting her as much as you are Clif....who has also been wrong numerous times. That being the case, I guess we're going from debunking Nancy to debunking Clif. So, we'll be here to listen to you spin this latest prediction when it fails in just two weeks. After all, we know you won't simply admit he was wrong...you didn't the last couple of times.
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Clif is just like Nancy and the rest of the prophets of doom and gloom. Keep shifting the dates forward and make the prophecies as vague as possible so that anything even remotely related can be used as proof of their accuracy.

I believe in their crap so much that my new permanent residence is now Naples, Florida and my work residence is Savannah, Georgia.
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Clif has never been right about any specific prediction. He was wrong in November, he was wrong in January, dates he also stuck by until they passed and then he started backstroking and spinning to cover his fail. About that time he got caught here posting as Clif fans starting threads in support of himself. He is a total scam artist, yet Max still believes him, still hangs on his every bullshit laden word. But we all know Maxipads' history of following self proclaimed prophets (profits) with zero prediction accuracy track records. I look forward to yet another Clif-biggerthan911-High fiasco. I'm sure when March 25th comes and goes with no event he will make excuses, like this is just the start, it happened but we won't notice it for months, just like he always does. You have been double duped Max.

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Apparently, the axiom "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me" escapes Max.
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GET READY!!
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tlr23 ........ Yep we will GET READY alright, Melfster, for yet another Clify Boy.......

atomic_fai


putin Geez Melfy do you EVER learn from your every DEFEAT here on our glorious Debunkers Live Chat Thread!!

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Hey!

Does anybody remember me?

I'm still wanking! Twice a day every day! I plan to take a bath next month.

Max, you never return my calls, you never write...what gives?

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