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**ZetaMax**

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It's ***NOT*** looking good!!!!
 Quoting: Maximelfy Sockstertroll


No, it isn't looking good for you at all. April 1st is pretty much over and Clif has another failure on his hands.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Thanks for reminding me. It's been over a week now, I've kept my word and "wore" a silly and inaccurate name for over a week. So - it's back to REALITY, and my "GOOD" name!!!
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I might as well say it now:

Clif FAILS again!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


You know, the Major Ed Dames show I posted earlier was HUGELY instructive on a factor that seems to affect ALL prognostication.

THE DATE PROBLEM.

The reason of course if one of "synchronicity". LINEAR TIME only exists in the third dimension, where pre-cognition is a FOURTH dimension activity. In that realm, events are not "ordered" by the calendar, but rather by INTENSITY. The mistake made OVER and OVER and OVER again, is that the more INTENSE, vivid, and detailed a "vision" or pre-cognition is, the CLOSER in time it ***MUST*** be.

That is not "necessarily" the case.

Yet every prognosticator falls over this "baked in" limitation time and time and time again because of how seductive the notion of intensity=proximity is, when in fact it is NOT the case.

Of course skeptics and debunkers are the absolute WORST "supporters" of this incredibly erroneous notion, because it gives them the most potent ammunition available to combat psychic premonitions of any kind.

ALL predictions are considered FAILURES if they don't happen PRECISELY when suggested they "might".

Well that ain't gonna happen - for even Christ said we would "not know the hour". And that is so, not because God is withholding anything, but rather because of the nature of reality itself, it is perhaps IMPOSSIBLE to know the precise "hour" ahead of time.
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Denial in its hardest form is such that even the fact of the Earth changes and presence of Planet X is denied. There stands the planet in the skies, but it is not there.
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 Quoting: Maximelfy Sockstertroll


Walks outside and looks up- `WOW Look at that....'

ABSOLUTELY no sign whatsoever of this planet x is visible, and has never been...
even her own imaging team say they never saw it

So what is it when her `FACT' is, was (and will continue to be)...
NOT A FACT???

There is only one part of that quote is accurate and that part is `but it is not there. '

that bit was, is, and will continue to be the only `fact' that is important

as you said maxipad, all the rest is indeed fools gold

written by a fool for fools...
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Denial in its hardest form is such that even the fact of the Earth changes and presence of Planet X is denied. There stands the planet in the skies, but it is not there.
snip
 Quoting: Maximelfy Sockstertroll


Walks outside and looks up- `WOW Look at that....'

ABSOLUTELY no sign whatsoever of this planet x is visible, and has never been...
even her own imaging team say they never saw it

So what is it when her `FACT' is, was (and will continue to be)...
NOT A FACT???

There is only one part of that quote is accurate and that part is `but it is not there. '

that bit was, is, and will continue to be the only `fact' that is important

as you said maxipad, all the rest is indeed fools gold

written by a fool for fools...
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I believe she speaking in a "future" tense.
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Thanks for reminding me. It's been over a week now, I've kept my word and "wore" a silly and inaccurate name for over a week. So - it's back to REALITY, and my "GOOD" name!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Good name? That's a matter of perspective. Any sane and intelligent person would agree that, after examining the fact, you're real name should be HypochondriMax.
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I believe she speaking in a "future" tense.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


As she was in 1999 when she said that "Planet X" would be here in May 2003 and that all other dates were incorrect. As she was in 2006/2007 when she said that 2012 was too far out for the "pole shift." You sure love failure don't you?
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I believe she speaking in a "future" tense.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


As she was in 1999 when she said that "Planet X" would be here in May 2003 and that all other dates were incorrect. As she was in 2006/2007 when she said that 2012 was too far out for the "pole shift." You sure love failure don't you?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


This was probably written by a "debunker" posing as a "scared" ZetaTalk reader:

[link to educate-yourself.org]
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I believe she speaking in a "future" tense.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


As she was in 1999 when she said that "Planet X" would be here in May 2003 and that all other dates were incorrect. As she was in 2006/2007 when she said that 2012 was too far out for the "pole shift." You sure love failure don't you?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


This was probably written by a "debunker" posing as a "scared" ZetaTalk reader:

[link to educate-yourself.org]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


It amazes me how you jump from failed prophet to prophet in order to placate your beliefs and bolster your rather weak grasp on reality.

How would you function if there wasn't a Nancy Lieder, Clif or Ed Dames? Would you sit huddling in your house unable to function because there is no one to tell you what to believe?
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Thanks for reminding me. It's been over a week now, I've kept my word and "wore" a silly and inaccurate name for over a week. So - it's back to REALITY, and my "GOOD" name!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Good name? That's a matter of perspective. Any sane and intelligent person would agree that, after examining the fact, you're real name should be HypochondriMax.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Good name? How much more delusional can you get?
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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This was probably written by a "debunker" posing as a "scared" ZetaTalk reader:

[link to educate-yourself.org]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


NO, it was written BY HER ON ZetaTalk. Apparently, you're the one that needs educating.
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This was probably written by a "debunker" posing as a "scared" ZetaTalk reader:

[link to educate-yourself.org]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


NO, it was written BY HER ON ZetaTalk. Apparently, you're the one that needs educating.
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And you say "I" am prone to "believe anything".
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And you say "I" am prone to "believe anything".
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Of course I didn't believe it...because she hasn't gotten anything right. But people like FreeStore sure believed it...probably because the "Zetas" themselves were so adamant by saying things such as "all other dates are incorrect" or "we were being precise."

Oh, and let me throw this in for the heck of it:

CLIF WRONG AGAIN!
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And you say "I" am prone to "believe anything".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Of course I didn't believe it...because she hasn't gotten anything right. But people like FreeStore sure believed it...probably because the "Zetas" themselves were so adamant by saying things such as "all other dates are incorrect" or "we were being precise."

Oh, and let me throw this in for the heck of it:

CLIF WRONG AGAIN!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Funny how you've completely IGNORED my explanation of the DATE PROBLEM. I'm not surprised though, PAID SHILLS never want to engage in substantive conversations - it's not in their job descriptions.

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Funny how you've completely IGNORED my explanation of the DATE PROBLEM.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

And YOU'RE just making excuses to explain failures like your master Nancy.



I'm not surprised though, PAID SHILLS never want to engage in substantive conversations - it's not in their job descriptions.

paidshill
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Yes, we know you're a paid shill and that you don't want to engage in substantive conversations. You've proven that over and over again...just like you've proven you aren't a "fence sitter." You don't need to keep telling us what we already know. I just can't figure out why User outed you like that. Did the two of you have a little fight in the cubicle the two of you used to share? Was he mad that he got laid off instead of you?

maxpay

Has your salary gone up since then? Since getting rid of User, it seems to me she should have more money to pay you...assuming she's still getting gullible people to send her money.

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And you say "I" am prone to "believe anything".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Of course I didn't believe it...because she hasn't gotten anything right. But people like FreeStore sure believed it...probably because the "Zetas" themselves were so adamant by saying things such as "all other dates are incorrect" or "we were being precise."

Oh, and let me throw this in for the heck of it:

CLIF WRONG AGAIN!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Funny how you've completely IGNORED my explanation of the DATE PROBLEM. I'm not surprised though, PAID SHILLS never want to engage in substantive conversations - it's not in their job descriptions.

:paidshill:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


maxipad- you are a fuckin liar, full of bullshit and are absolute scum of the earth, looking up enviously at the whaleshit, politicians and used car salesmen that are as far above you as the moon is above the earths atmosphere....

and thats me being nice and polite about it...

if we we together in person, I'd tell you what I REALLY think of you
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And you say "I" am prone to "believe anything".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Of course I didn't believe it...because she hasn't gotten anything right. But people like FreeStore sure believed it...probably because the "Zetas" themselves were so adamant by saying things such as "all other dates are incorrect" or "we were being precise."

Oh, and let me throw this in for the heck of it:

CLIF WRONG AGAIN!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Funny how you've completely IGNORED my explanation of the DATE PROBLEM. I'm not surprised though, PAID SHILLS never want to engage in substantive conversations - it's not in their job descriptions.

paidshill
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


maxipad- you are a fuckin liar, full of bullshit and are absolute scum of the earth, looking up enviously at the whaleshit, politicians and used car salesmen that are as far above you as the moon is above the earths atmosphere....

and thats me being nice and polite about it...

if we we together in person, I'd tell you what I REALLY think of you
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>> you are a fuckin liar, full of bullshit and are absolute scum of the earth

Gee - thanks for "pulling that punch".

oh_irony
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Boy, you certainly aren't the one to talk about irony. Each one of the false prophets you cling to has failed time and time again...and yet you still cling to them, hoping that maybe, just maybe, they might be right just once.
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Funny how you've completely IGNORED my explanation of the DATE PROBLEM.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

And YOU'RE just making excuses to explain failures like your master Nancy.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Uhh - well ... YEA!!!

I AM!!!

What is one to "DO" with a "failure" except LEARN from it. The problem is, you debunkers assume there is only ONE lesson that can be learned from said failures.

That being - there is no valid pre-cognition, and the future is un-discoverable except through scientific study of direct cause and effect.

When in fact, there are MANY other factors to consider. And MANY that do not conform to your version of DOD approved "reality".

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Of course I didn't believe it...because she hasn't gotten anything right. But people like FreeStore sure believed it...probably because the "Zetas" themselves were so adamant by saying things such as "all other dates are incorrect" or "we were being precise."

Oh, and let me throw this in for the heck of it:

CLIF WRONG AGAIN!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Funny how you've completely IGNORED my explanation of the DATE PROBLEM. I'm not surprised though, PAID SHILLS never want to engage in substantive conversations - it's not in their job descriptions.

:paidshill:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


maxipad- you are a fuckin liar, full of bullshit and are absolute scum of the earth, looking up enviously at the whaleshit, politicians and used car salesmen that are as far above you as the moon is above the earths atmosphere....

and thats me being nice and polite about it...

if we we together in person, I'd tell you what I REALLY think of you
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


>> you are a fuckin liar, full of bullshit and are absolute scum of the earth

Gee - thanks for "pulling that punch".

:oh_irony:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


you are welcome- believe me I really wanted to say what I really think of you- but unfortunately there arent sufficient words to describe THAT
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Funny how you've completely IGNORED my explanation of the DATE PROBLEM.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

And YOU'RE just making excuses to explain failures like your master Nancy.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Uhh - well ... YEA!!!

I AM!!!

What is one to "DO" with a "failure" except LEARN from it. The problem is, you debunkers assume there is only ONE lesson that can be learned from said failures.

That being - there is no valid pre-cognition, and the future is un-discoverable except through scientific study of direct cause and effect.

When in fact, there are MANY other factors to consider. And MANY that do not conform to your version of DOD approved "reality".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Except there isn't just ONE failure- as has been shown before many times- nancy LIEder is ALWAYS wrong 100% wrong 100% of the time

Now most people with a single functioning braincell or more would learn from this, but you NEVER do- hence we can only assume you don't have a single functioning braincell or are being paid to promote the zeta crap....

As you seem to be able to `think' after a fashion (I am being nice in granting this ability to you- only because you seem to be able to bash a keyboard and make words come out) one must assume you have at least a single functioning braincell- yet your posting history shows otherwise...
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I might as well say it now:

Clif FAILS again!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


You know, the Major Ed Dames show I posted earlier was HUGELY instructive on a factor that seems to affect ALL prognostication.

THE DATE PROBLEM.

The reason of course if one of "synchronicity". LINEAR TIME only exists in the third dimension, where pre-cognition is a FOURTH dimension activity. In that realm, events are not "ordered" by the calendar, but rather by INTENSITY. The mistake made OVER and OVER and OVER again, is that the more INTENSE, vivid, and detailed a "vision" or pre-cognition is, the CLOSER in time it ***MUST*** be.

That is not "necessarily" the case.

Yet every prognosticator falls over this "baked in" limitation time and time and time again because of how seductive the notion of intensity=proximity is, when in fact it is NOT the case.

Of course skeptics and debunkers are the absolute WORST "supporters" of this incredibly erroneous notion, because it gives them the most potent ammunition available to combat psychic premonitions of any kind.

ALL predictions are considered FAILURES if they don't happen PRECISELY when suggested they "might".

Well that ain't gonna happen - for even Christ said we would "not know the hour". And that is so, not because God is withholding anything, but rather because of the nature of reality itself, it is perhaps IMPOSSIBLE to know the precise "hour" ahead of time.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Ah. The date problem. All the self proclaimed channelers, gurus, prophets and doom mongers including Clif and Berkland fall back on this when they fail. If they know nailing down a date is virtually impossible, why do they still give dates?

If you remove the dates from predictions like earthquakes in known earthquake zones, you don't even have a prediction, you are only repeating what scientists have said for ages.

Big quake in California, the scientists say it could happen 10 minutes from now or 20 years from now. The fake prophets say big quake on April 23, and when it doesn't happen on April 23, doom tards like Max defend them. It didn't happen on the date they predicted, but it will happen, dates are hard to pin down, blah blah blah.

I prefer to listen to the men and women that actually know about these things, people that actually know how to read seismographs and know how to interpret decades of data following scientific procedures.

It looks to me like these charlatans take scientific findings and add dates because there is a small chance they will be right and that will convince the gullible to stroke their egos and open their wallets. It's all about ego and money to people like that.
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Funny how you've completely IGNORED my explanation of the DATE PROBLEM.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

And YOU'RE just making excuses to explain failures like your master Nancy.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Uhh - well ... YEA!!!

I AM!!!

What is one to "DO" with a "failure" except LEARN from it. The problem is, you debunkers assume there is only ONE lesson that can be learned from said failures.

That being - there is no valid pre-cognition, and the future is un-discoverable except through scientific study of direct cause and effect.

When in fact, there are MANY other factors to consider. And MANY that do not conform to your version of DOD approved "reality".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Except there isn't just ONE failure- as has been shown before many times- nancy LIEder is ALWAYS wrong 100% wrong 100% of the time

Now most people with a single functioning braincell or more would learn from this, but you NEVER do- hence we can only assume you don't have a single functioning braincell or are being paid to promote the zeta crap....

As you seem to be able to `think' after a fashion (I am being nice in granting this ability to you- only because you seem to be able to bash a keyboard and make words come out) one must assume you have at least a single functioning braincell- yet your posting history shows otherwise...
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I wonder if Max would be so forgiving if he put his faith and his money behind a financial planner that is always wrong when it comes to investing Max's hard earned savings. How many times would he still be willing to follow the advice of someone who fails 100% of the time. Would he find a new advisor or would he continue to give the first one the benefit of the doubt until forced into bankrupcy?
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But that is just it, ZM: When has it *ever* looked good to you?
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Easy - NEVER. He's always talking about doom. He never posts about positive predictions.
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I was reviewing Nancy's chat from the 19th of March - the Zetas are explaining why organizations which have "no accuracy track record" are gaining in popularity:

... what is the purpose of such organizations as the Cassiopaeians, who purport that an Ascension into 4th density to avoid the pole shift is possible. If this were possible, then surely there is solid proof, where the media attends an Ascension, an escape into 4th density, and those adhearing to the Cassiopaeian belief disappear into thin air in front of the cameras. Prove it, is our statement! They have zero credibility, a zero track record on truthfulness on any of their pronouncements. Why is such a ridiculous theory even contemplated by the public? This is a form of denial, and won't be the last such ridiculous belief that will arise as the Earth changes become more threatening. It sells. It gains converts.

Denial in its hardest form is such that even the fact of the Earth changes and presence of Planet X is denied. There stands the planet in the skies, but it is not there. The roads heaved by earthquakes such that even a bike cannot wend its way, not acknowledged. Mother sends father out to go get some more groceries, and when he reports the situation, she does not believe it can be true. If he takes her to the road, she shakes her head and walks away dazed, and later asks him to go for groceries again, taking an alternate route. Most in denial will not go into hard denial, but some alternate version. Our predictions on the scope of disaster will not come true. Perhaps we are wrong or misguided. Even if it does occur, the government will rescue its citizens. But best of all is to simply imagine that one can avoid the horror altogether. Close your eyes, click your heels together, and make a wish! Like Dorothy, wanting to go home from Oz. All Dorothy needed was the knowledge and some red shoes! Enter the Cassiopaeians!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Ironically though, I can't argue with the seocnd paragraph at all. Hoards of folks WILL react precisely as she describes.

That's the "allure" of Zetatalk, it's just like a "gold" mine. A lot of rock surrounding small amounts of PURE GOLD. (Of course the debunkers will say "fool's gold").
 Quoting: Maximelfy Sockstertroll


Looks like Laura is definitely a peer of Nancy's then, since they share an almost statistically impossible inaccuracy track record of being wrong 100% of the time. Pot, meet kettle.
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But that is just it, ZM: When has it *ever* looked good to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Easy - NEVER. He's always talking about doom. He never posts about positive predictions.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I was reviewing Nancy's chat from the 19th of March - the Zetas are explaining why organizations which have "no accuracy track record" are gaining in popularity:

... what is the purpose of such organizations as the Cassiopaeians, who purport that an Ascension into 4th density to avoid the pole shift is possible. If this were possible, then surely there is solid proof, where the media attends an Ascension, an escape into 4th density, and those adhearing to the Cassiopaeian belief disappear into thin air in front of the cameras. Prove it, is our statement! They have zero credibility, a zero track record on truthfulness on any of their pronouncements. Why is such a ridiculous theory even contemplated by the public? This is a form of denial, and won't be the last such ridiculous belief that will arise as the Earth changes become more threatening. It sells. It gains converts.

Denial in its hardest form is such that even the fact of the Earth changes and presence of Planet X is denied. There stands the planet in the skies, but it is not there. The roads heaved by earthquakes such that even a bike cannot wend its way, not acknowledged. Mother sends father out to go get some more groceries, and when he reports the situation, she does not believe it can be true. If he takes her to the road, she shakes her head and walks away dazed, and later asks him to go for groceries again, taking an alternate route. Most in denial will not go into hard denial, but some alternate version. Our predictions on the scope of disaster will not come true. Perhaps we are wrong or misguided. Even if it does occur, the government will rescue its citizens. But best of all is to simply imagine that one can avoid the horror altogether. Close your eyes, click your heels together, and make a wish! Like Dorothy, wanting to go home from Oz. All Dorothy needed was the knowledge and some red shoes! Enter the Cassiopaeians!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Ironically though, I can't argue with the seocnd paragraph at all. Hoards of folks WILL react precisely as she describes.

That's the "allure" of Zetatalk, it's just like a "gold" mine. A lot of rock surrounding small amounts of PURE GOLD. (Of course the debunkers will say "fool's gold").
 Quoting: Maximelfy Sockstertroll


Looks like Laura is definitely a peer of Nancy's then, since they share an almost statistically impossible inaccuracy track record of being wrong 100% of the time. Pot, meet kettle.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


I might get into this guessing game- if I flip a coin and if its heads, then a major earthquake happens somewhere, then the first time I get it right ahead of nancy LIEder and her ilk will actually be behind me in accuracy

That's what gets me about maxipad and his constant brown tonguing of nancy (ugggghhh what a thought)

It's not as if she's been right occasionally and this time got it wrong..

She's never- ever- got a single prediction right- even the obvious ones she manages to fk it up and ends up wrong!!!!


Even if she was flipping a coin and going by heads or tails for doom or no doom.... she should have at least gotten SOMETHING right by now!

It takes a particular level of sheer incompetence to get it wrong as often as she does- a mind numbing amount of `DOH' to be so inept


(no wonder maxipad has such a hard time- ii must be difficult living `up'(or `down' as the rest of us know it as) to his idol's standards- no one that's actually breathing could emulate her `ability' to forecast the future so `accurately'...)
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When in fact, there are MANY other factors to consider. And MANY that do not conform to your version of DOD approved "reality".
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DoD approved reality? LOL! You truly are delusional. Whatever my reality is has NOTHING to do with what the DoD tells me. It's based on my own observations. That said, if there is a "DoD approved reality"...it's certainly better than the "Nancy Lieder approved reality" you've chosen to believe in.
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I prefer to listen to the men and women that actually know about these things, people that actually know how to read seismographs and know how to interpret decades of data following scientific procedures.
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Remember when Loser attacked "debunkers" for supposedly not knowing how the scientific method worked and yet he abandoned it whenever that method showed how he, Nancy and any supporter of ZetaTalk was wrong?
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I prefer to listen to the men and women that actually know about these things, people that actually know how to read seismographs and know how to interpret decades of data following scientific procedures.
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Remember when Loser attacked "debunkers" for supposedly not knowing how the scientific method worked and yet he abandoned it whenever that method showed how he, Nancy and any supporter of ZetaTalk was wrong?
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Yeah, funny how the Luser disappeared when Nancy left, and he doesn't seem to be at the ning either. There is so much I don't miss about him. In fact, there is nothing I miss about him.
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I might as well say it now:

Clif FAILS again!
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You know, the Major Ed Dames show I posted earlier was HUGELY instructive on a factor that seems to affect ALL prognostication.

THE DATE PROBLEM.

The reason of course if one of "synchronicity". LINEAR TIME only exists in the third dimension, where pre-cognition is a FOURTH dimension activity. In that realm, events are not "ordered" by the calendar, but rather by INTENSITY. The mistake made OVER and OVER and OVER again, is that the more INTENSE, vivid, and detailed a "vision" or pre-cognition is, the CLOSER in time it ***MUST*** be.

That is not "necessarily" the case.

Yet every prognosticator falls over this "baked in" limitation time and time and time again because of how seductive the notion of intensity=proximity is, when in fact it is NOT the case.

Of course skeptics and debunkers are the absolute WORST "supporters" of this incredibly erroneous notion, because it gives them the most potent ammunition available to combat psychic premonitions of any kind.

ALL predictions are considered FAILURES if they don't happen PRECISELY when suggested they "might".

Well that ain't gonna happen - for even Christ said we would "not know the hour". And that is so, not because God is withholding anything, but rather because of the nature of reality itself, it is perhaps IMPOSSIBLE to know the precise "hour" ahead of time.
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Ah. The date problem. All the self proclaimed channelers, gurus, prophets and doom mongers including Clif and Berkland fall back on this when they fail. If they know nailing down a date is virtually impossible, why do they still give dates?

If you remove the dates from predictions like earthquakes in known earthquake zones, you don't even have a prediction, you are only repeating what scientists have said for ages.

Big quake in California, the scientists say it could happen 10 minutes from now or 20 years from now. The fake prophets say big quake on April 23, and when it doesn't happen on April 23, doom tards like Max defend them. It didn't happen on the date they predicted, but it will happen, dates are hard to pin down, blah blah blah.

I prefer to listen to the men and women that actually know about these things, people that actually know how to read seismographs and know how to interpret decades of data following scientific procedures.

It looks to me like these charlatans take scientific findings and add dates because there is a small chance they will be right and that will convince the gullible to stroke their egos and open their wallets. It's all about ego and money to people like that.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Ok - so KIR actually offers a "little" substantive feedback.

Thank you for that (take NOTE CB!)

The "date problem" is twofold. One, it really is a legitimate problem when it comes to pre-cognitive material. Two, people generally completely dismiss pre-cognitive material UNLESS it has a DATE.

I'm as guilty of that as the next person.

But after 29 years of para-normal studies, I have to conclude that the "date problem" is one not likely to be solved. Perhaps because it might not have a "resolution".
Christ said we wouldn't know the "hour". But he DIDN'T say we couldn't know the "day" or "week" or "month" or "year" or "decade" ...

Point being, that without some form of DATE, a prediction becomes - not wrong - but irrelevant.

But it's interesting to note, that while Ed Dames says he has not solved the "date" problem, he HAS solved (or so he says) the "location" and "sequencing" problems.

***IF TRUE*** then that is indeed an important development. He says NEW MADRID will be the next BIG quake to take thousands of lives in the world. Since 8+ sized quakes are now happening at least every other month now, it is safe to speculate that IF this were to happen, it is likely to happen by the end of MAY.

So even though I don't have a DATE - I think I do have a TIME-FRAME.

So - the next DOOM DEADLINE is now JUNE 1st. If New Madrid doesn't happen by then, OR, an eight or bigger quake happens elsewhere that is NOT New Madrid, then I will have FAILED again!!

If so, then the DREADED "OP" of this thread gets to choose both my NAME and AVATAR PICTURE that I will where for a full MONTH.

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What good is a vague prediction? Where were all these self proclaimed seers before the Japan quake? Forget the date. They didn't even see the event, and it is the biggest event since 2004, and by the way, nobody here or on any other site I know of saw that one coming either, but as soon as it happened, forums were full of people predicting the next one. I remember one in particular that insisted there would be a 10.0 in India. Everyone was having dreams about tsunamis and quakes and volcanos. Everyone thought they were being given warnings in dreams and "feelings". I remember one group on another site was convinced they could predict quakes by the pitch of the ringing in their ears. Of course none of those after the big one predictions happened. The frenzy petered out after a few months, and now we are seeing the same thing with the Japan quake.

It begs the question. Why is there an increase in cataclysm dreams AFTER a big event but not BEFORE. Hmmmmmm. Perhaps the nature of dreams is to process data from the awake time, to work through fears and issues that are hard to deal with in the waking state.
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Yeah, funny how the Luser disappeared when Nancy left, and he doesn't seem to be at the ning either. There is so much I don't miss about him. In fact, there is nothing I miss about him.
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from memory- he left a bit before nancy did

And it's not surprising he's not posting- his increasingly incoherent and abusive style here was probably mirrored in his real life interactions

He's probably enjoying a nice relax at a place that caters for his particular style of personality

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