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In sum...

If we are being lied to about 2012 or other things of that nature to happen soon,
It would be very hard to find the truth - even if you found evidence leaks and testimonies,
So even if you were well-intentioned and thought you had your facts straight, you could still get it wrong

We are undergoing and uphill battle against mounting disinfo misinfo and every other type of info you can imagine.

We should stop expecting perfection from our "idol" conspiracy junkies and accept that we are all human...and some of us may just make mistakes...versus being fraudelent.

I think it's a tendency for conspiracy theorists to make up their mind early on and hnag on to their ideas even when evidence changes. stay open minded!
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Be sure to remind me "again" in September when this "thing" gets here. Remember, 2012 is too far out!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Yeah, 2012 was supposed to be...but it isn't anymore. That's why Nancy and the "Zetas" have another big pile of FAIL on their hands.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


>> ...but it isn't anymore

Uhhm, last I checked the calendar still said 2011 - aren't we getting a WEE bit ahead of ourselves there???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

THIS is especially for you, my dear.

SQEAL!

At 14.07.2011 Page 1000 will be reached
At 15.12.2014 Page 2000 will be reached

Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
884 days gone, 262 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
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What?????

What'd they BAN you for, man?
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I'm curious myself. I wasn't around when that particular episode went down.

:Loneranger:
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


As things tend to go here on GLP, what really happened isn't entirely clear, even to Jamie, as I understand it... or not.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


Thanks, Menow. At least I know that Jamie wasn't the sort of poster, regardless of him being a moderator, to go around whinging about things. He was a straight up guy with his thoughts and opinions on GLP and a very FAIR & BALANCED moderator in his dealings with the other posters.

:Loneranger:
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


I do know that it supposedly had something to do with something he allegedly posted about GLP on another site. He denied the allegation, but the die was already cast and shit alreagy hitting the fan. Such is life.
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The PTB on this board are shitheads. That's why the Doc was unmodded and banned, and it's why I don't hang out here anymore.
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Guess they finally unbanned me. Won't bother much with visiting here though. I've gotten busy doing other things. I might pop in occasionally and see what's happening on this thread though, especially when 2012 arrives.
 Quoting: DrPostman (nli) 1257543


The debunkers could really use your help, they've been LOSING GROUND at an accelerated pace lately!!

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Your baiting has gotten far too obvious, lately.
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And awfully stale.
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I'm curious myself. I wasn't around when that particular episode went down.

:Loneranger:
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


As things tend to go here on GLP, what really happened isn't entirely clear, even to Jamie, as I understand it... or not.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


Thanks, Menow. At least I know that Jamie wasn't the sort of poster, regardless of him being a moderator, to go around whinging about things. He was a straight up guy with his thoughts and opinions on GLP and a very FAIR & BALANCED moderator in his dealings with the other posters.

:Loneranger:
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


I do know that it supposedly had something to do with something he allegedly posted about GLP on another site. He denied the allegation, but the die was already cast and shit alreagy hitting the fan. Such is life.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


Well, you know more than I do then. 3 weeks after it happened I was unbanned and even had my account upgraded for a whole year. Then 24 hours later I was banned again. I know for certain that I didn't post anything in those 24 hours that could get me banned and when I requested an unban all I got was ".". So fuck-em.
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The above, of course, was me.
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The above, of course, was me.
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We could have used you in this earthquake debate towards the later part of this thread:

Thread: Nibiru/Planet X Event Timeline
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As things tend to go here on GLP, what really happened isn't entirely clear, even to Jamie, as I understand it... or not.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


Thanks, Menow. At least I know that Jamie wasn't the sort of poster, regardless of him being a moderator, to go around whinging about things. He was a straight up guy with his thoughts and opinions on GLP and a very FAIR & BALANCED moderator in his dealings with the other posters.

:Loneranger:
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


I do know that it supposedly had something to do with something he allegedly posted about GLP on another site. He denied the allegation, but the die was already cast and shit alreagy hitting the fan. Such is life.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


Well, you know more than I do then. 3 weeks after it happened I was unbanned and even had my account upgraded for a whole year. Then 24 hours later I was banned again. I know for certain that I didn't post anything in those 24 hours that could get me banned and when I requested an unban all I got was ".". So fuck-em.
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Should this start another debunker walk-out? Leave Zetamax pointlessly spinning his wheels on this thread?
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Actually I think we should stay...
in this thread only

that's what I have done since the debacle
I spend a lot of time spread over several forums, so I have this thread as the only one I go to here

Read it, poke fun at maxipads latest insanity then wander off to another forum

As far as I am concerned, this thread is GLP in its entirety these days
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You can't even settle on its name? I guess it's waaaay to much to expect you to settle on a firm description, hmm?
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


If Elenin DOES turn out to be "PLANET X", and if folks had only LISTENED to Nancy ... THEY'D BE READY!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Apparently you have forgotten my suggestion that you should fuck right off. Consider this a brief reminder.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


Be sure to remind me "again" in September when this "thing" gets here. Remember, 2012 is too far out!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


September? Don't you keep up with the data? C/2010 X1 close approach is October 16th.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Uhhm, last I checked the calendar still said 2011 - aren't we getting a WEE bit ahead of ourselves there???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Maybe to you. But anyone else that can think logically comes to the same conclusion - when Nancy said that 2012 was "too far out" she meant that it would happen a year or more before 2012...not just a few months.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Should this start another debunker walk-out? Leave Zetamax pointlessly spinning his wheels on this thread?
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I don't want to be responsible for having an effect on anyone's
recreation. I mean lets face it, for debunkers that what GLP is
after all. Max is going to spin, that's his recreation. If GLP is
still around by the end of next year I'll be much more present.
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forgot to change that again.
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If GLP isn't here, it won't be because of some big disaster.

Anyway, just a few pages back I predicted this:

[link to www.cnn.com]

Circuit Breaker right again!
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Should this start another debunker walk-out? Leave Zetamax pointlessly spinning his wheels on this thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342165


I don't want to be responsible for having an effect on anyone's
recreation. I mean lets face it, for debunkers that what GLP is
after all. Max is going to spin, that's his recreation. If GLP is
still around by the end of next year I'll be much more present.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257543


>> Max is going to spin, that's his recreation.

No - it's my charitable contribution. A public service dedicated to the growth and advancement of the human race.
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Uhhm, last I checked the calendar still said 2011 - aren't we getting a WEE bit ahead of ourselves there???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Maybe to you. But anyone else that can think logically comes to the same conclusion - when Nancy said that 2012 was "too far out" she meant that it would happen a year or more before 2012...not just a few months.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


She never said that.
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Uhhm, last I checked the calendar still said 2011 - aren't we getting a WEE bit ahead of ourselves there???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Maybe to you. But anyone else that can think logically comes to the same conclusion - when Nancy said that 2012 was "too far out" she meant that it would happen a year or more before 2012...not just a few months.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


She never said that.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Liar. Yes she did. I know the quote off by heart. She said it right here on one of her stupid chat threads.

"2012 is too far out".

Max caught in a not so white lie AGAIN!
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Uhhm, last I checked the calendar still said 2011 - aren't we getting a WEE bit ahead of ourselves there???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Maybe to you. But anyone else that can think logically comes to the same conclusion - when Nancy said that 2012 was "too far out" she meant that it would happen a year or more before 2012...not just a few months.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


She never said that.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Liar. Yes she did. I know the quote off by heart. She said it right here on one of her stupid chat threads.

"2012 is too far out".

Max caught in a not so white lie AGAIN!
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Huge BS flag I was responding to CB's assertion that she meant "years" before 2012.

I am watching an Alex Collier video series tonight. FASCINATING!!! In this one, he teaches us, how we are to introduce ourselves to extraterrestrials.



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Maybe to you. But anyone else that can think logically comes to the same conclusion - when Nancy said that 2012 was "too far out" she meant that it would happen a year or more before 2012...not just a few months.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


She never said that.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Liar. Yes she did. I know the quote off by heart. She said it right here on one of her stupid chat threads.

"2012 is too far out".

Max caught in a not so white lie AGAIN!
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Huge BS flag I was responding to CB's assertion that she meant "years" before 2012.


 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Caught in another lie. Show me where CB asserted that she meant years before 2012. I bet you can't. But that said, according to Nancy it was all supposed to happen in 2003, then 2004, then came the white lie, and a couple of years ago she said it would happen soon, 2012 is too far out. CB only pointed out that we are less than a year away, and back when she said it, she said it was imminent. What a fucking liar and spin master you are.
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I am watching an Alex Collier video series tonight. FASCINATING!!! In this one, he teaches us, how we are to introduce ourselves to extraterrestrials.


 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


`Greetings Overlords from Space- I am main course, this charming woman is my wife entrée and this beautiful young girl here is my daughter dessert'

Alex Collier....
jeez melfy- you certainly know how to pick em don't you....

(slaps forehead)
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"The Zetas will not give a date beyond saying that 2012 is too far out, for the pole shift." – February 18, 2006 on GLP.
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I am watching an Alex Collier video series tonight. FASCINATING!!! In this one, he teaches us, how we are to introduce ourselves to extraterrestrials.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


`Greetings Overlords from Space- I am main course, this charming woman is my wife entrée and this beautiful young girl here is my daughter dessert'

Alex Collier....
jeez melfy- you certainly know how to pick em don't you....

(slaps forehead)
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lolsign Yep I wonder most times what the REAL DEAL is with Melfy. One minute he's the No 1 supporter of Zetababble. Next instance he claims NOT to be a follower of zetababble. Then he transforms lolsign into some bystanding Fence Shitter of all things zetababble.

Then we have Melfy portraying himself as some great sober intellect who is a lawyer amongst other professions. And besides ALL these things he apparently survived being killed or severely injured in the 911 attacks of 2001.

Yet incredibily Melfy is so naive he's able to blindly and foolhardily "believe" in any woowoo available out there in internet land.

Once again I ask.......Jekel_Hyde........because you seem to possess MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES and all under the same one name!!

rofl Maybe is it possible that you don't even really know who you are yourself, Melfy!!

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Life Is But A Dream!!
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"The Zetas will not give a date beyond saying that 2012 is too far out, for the pole shift." – February 18, 2006 on GLP.
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Big_smile Now wait for it.......SPIN MAXI SPIN!!

And think_ before you reply to the quoted poster's statement of FACT there, Melfy.....remember you reckon you don't LIE and that you stand by every post you make?

PS: Actually we already know that you LIED a page or two ago about Nancy LIEDer saying that "2012 is too far out" for the so called coming poleshift. But seeing how you actually respond to what the poster quoted from Nancy LIEDer should be worth the price of admission.

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lolsign Yep I wonder most times what the REAL DEAL is with Melfy. One minute he's the No 1 supporter of Zetababble. Next instance he claims NOT to be a follower of zetababble. Then he transforms lolsign into some bystanding Fence Shitter of all things zetababble.

Then we have Melfy portraying himself as some great sober intellect who is a lawyer amongst other professions. And besides ALL these things he apparently survived being killed or severely injured in the 911 attacks of 2001.

Yet incredibily Melfy is so naive he's able to blindly and foolhardily "believe" in any woowoo available out there in internet land.

Once again I ask.......:Jekel_Hyde:........because you seem to possess MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES and all under the same one name!!

rofl Maybe is it possible that you don't even really know who you are yourself, Melfy!!
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Well I have seen evidence that he can claim to be in a fence s(h)itter in the same sentence he's supporting nancy

considering the few (very few) instances he's actually chatted, he's given away a bit

As for his claims about being a lawyer and a 11/9 survivor- that's I find very unlikely- he has SOME of the attributes of a lawyer (the ability to say one thing while believing something else ie lie, but considering his abilities as shown here- I believe he would LIKE to be a lawyer but didn't quite make the grade....

and the sept 11 thing- welllllll......

I've never see anything to suggest its anything more than the online fantasy of an attention seeker- not one bit of evidence has ever been shown he was there and the times he has spoken of it he showed more the classic 9/11er viewpoint rather than the images and views of someone who was there
(melfy a 9/11er no tell me it ain't true...)

well he's fallen for every other crackpot idea out there...
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lolsign Yep I wonder most times what the REAL DEAL is with Melfy. One minute he's the No 1 supporter of Zetababble. Next instance he claims NOT to be a follower of zetababble. Then he transforms lolsign into some bystanding Fence Shitter of all things zetababble.

Then we have Melfy portraying himself as some great sober intellect who is a lawyer amongst other professions. And besides ALL these things he apparently survived being killed or severely injured in the 911 attacks of 2001.

Yet incredibily Melfy is so naive he's able to blindly and foolhardily "believe" in any woowoo available out there in internet land.

Once again I ask.......Jekel_Hyde........because you seem to possess MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES and all under the same one name!!

rofl Maybe is it possible that you don't even really know who you are yourself, Melfy!!
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Well I have seen evidence that he can claim to be in a fence s(h)itter in the same sentence he's supporting nancy

considering the few (very few) instances he's actually chatted, he's given away a bit

As for his claims about being a lawyer and a 11/9 survivor- that's I find very unlikely- he has SOME of the attributes of a lawyer (the ability to say one thing while believing something else ie lie, but considering his abilities as shown here- I believe he would LIKE to be a lawyer but didn't quite make the grade....

and the sept 11 thing- welllllll......

I've never see anything to suggest its anything more than the online fantasy of an attention seeker- not one bit of evidence has ever been shown he was there and the times he has spoken of it he showed more the classic 9/11er viewpoint rather than the images and views of someone who was there
(melfy a 9/11er no tell me it ain't true...)

well he's fallen for every other crackpot idea out there...
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


ZetaMax - a 911 Survivor discusses the Puppet Master and 911

I AM A 911 SURVIVOR.

The human posting as ***ZetaMax*** was on the 31st Floor of Tower One of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. I was sitting in my cubicle working on a Perl program, when American Airlines Flight 11 slammed into the North Tower - the one I was working in. The details of my survival mirror thousands of others, and all-in-all, is one of the more mundane - for a day that was anything BUT. Briefly, I walked down 31 flights of stairs in about 25 minutes and exited to see TWO towers on fire. After about fifteen minutes I proceeded to walk north along the West Side Highway, and was well over a mile away when Tower Two collapsed. As a result of my wise decision to vacate the area early, the dust cloud did not reach me. Other than scaring the hell out of my family, a bad sunburn, and the loss of about $1200 dollars in personal items, 911 had little adverse impact on my life. In fact, I actually benefitted, for my contract was due to expire on September 30, but as a result of the need to retain people knowledgable about the computer infrastructure, my consulting contract was extended. It was not however a joyous time to say the least. I lost 12 co-workers, and chose to remain with other survivors who all struggled with trauma arrising from this event.

But enough about me, this thread is about how 911 came about, and who was behind it.

Nancy Leider has just revealed in her latest video:
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

that the Zetas say the insider behind 911, was none other than the Puppet Master - an individual patriarch of an off-the-books branch of the Rothschild's Banking Dynasty.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written Apr 7, 2007 on the live GodlikeProduction live chat.

Nancy is asked at least daily who the Puppet Master is, and replies in each case that this branch of the Rothchild family is not public, and any individual you can identify is not thus the Puppet Master. This is a family trust, and some family members have assets, like an allowance, to do as they wish with. Their spending money is small change, in other words! The true line in charge of the family assets went off the books decades ago, and could never be traced, nor are they even in the public records, anywhere. This is not a Service-to-Self bunch, and do not start wars for benefit.

HOW DO WE RECONCILE THESE TWO ASSERTIONS - that the Puppet Master was behind the attacks on 911, and at the same time, does not start wars for benefit???
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaTalk: If Gore Had Prevailed
written Sep 29, 2004

Bush is not the master, but a Puppet, controlled by those with great wealth who literally own not only US corporations but by the US national debt, the political process, as well. The Bush/Cheney arm of this superstructure of world control had been letting their control of the US Military go to their heads, a restless and arrogant Puppet that was brought to heel, after many warnings, with the 911 attack.

911 was a HORRIFIC day - I know, I WAS THERE. Is there any way that I can come to embrace the idea that the Puppet Master was actually JUSTIFIED in manipulating events such that this day of infamy resulted? It seems an impossible task - what POSSIBLE justification could there be - especially for a claimed non-Service-to-Self group - to bring about such shocking destruction, pain and devastation to thousands of individuals, families, the United States - even the World as a whole???

Let's together consider a few "unpleasant," in point of fact, "unsavory" realities. There are times in life, when an individual is presented with a classic DOUBLE BIND. A true "Damned if you do", "Damned if you don't" scenario. This is a mixed orientation world - with the seven percent (or so) truly dedicated STS individuals clamoring in every way IMAGINABLE for ultimate power - to the extent their skill, cunning and audacity permit. Anyone who opposes their agendas is fighting a CONSTANT, RUNNING BATTLE without let-up. Eternal vigilence is not just advisable, it is REQUIRED. (Note the battle with the STS debunkers in Nancy's threads - unrelenting, and fought without quarter. Any and all weaknesses are exploited, and Machiavellian manipulation is CONSTANT). On a much BIGGER STAGE, the Puppet Master is engaged in the EXACT SAME running battle with those who would enslave the entire human race. There, the weapons are not just words, but endless money, power politics, arms - and even weapons of mass destruction.

The STS group obey NO RULES other than avoidance of disadvantage whenever possible or prudent. This automatically places the non-STS on an UN-LEVEL playing field - for the STS are unhindered by humanitarian concerns, and the STO-leaning are often OBESSED with them. This otherwise nearly untenable discrepancy is otherwise compensated by the reality that the STO- leaning WORK TOGETHER AND CO-OPERATE as a unified force - ONE TEAM. This not only gives them a "fighting chance" in an otherwise wholly lopsided arrangement, IT ACTUALLY ASSURES ULTIMATE VICTORY. Nevertheless, that victory does NOT come free of costs - many being QUITE high. And some? - HORRIFICALLY SO.

Consider, Bush and company steal the election from Gore with the express intent of using the Military to essentially "conquer the world" - for all practical purposes. To create the pre-text for such a campaign, the Puppet Master learns of plans to engage in false-flag terror. It is pretty well accepted that there is compelling evidence that the Bush administration had threatened the Taliban with invasion BEFORE 911 - and that in fact there was an invasion planned for October of 2001 as leaked around June/July of 2001. It should be clear to nearly EVERYONE by now, that Bush and crew were planning their revenge on Sadaam Hussein LONG BEFORE 911.

So again, the Puppet Master learns of plans for false-flag terror. Unable to use his influence to prevent such attempts directly, he is FORCED to consider other alternatives. Keep in mind, that as a member of MJ12, the Puppet Master knows of the Zetas first hand - in full consciousness. Nevertheless, PRIOR to 911, the Council of Worlds had NOT yet made the exception to the non-interference rule allowing the Zetas and other extraterrestrial races to assist humans in preventing 911 false-flag terror events. Prior to 911, THIS WAS ALL IN THE HANDS OF MAN.

So - you've got a rogue puppet, bent on world domination with control of the largest and most powerful military in the world - planning a sizable false-flag terror incident to justify a global military campaign of conquest. You can't stop the attempt, and in fact are left essentially with one and only one viable option - PRE-EMPT IT. With careful planning, the tables could be turned on the would be oppressors - by damaging them where it most hurts - the POCKET-BOOK. In addition, the whole thing could be staged to actually REDUCE collateral damage and the needless loss of human life TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. Consider, how much MORE compelling would the case for war be if the Towers were to collapse at FULL CAPACITY?? Consider that the Pentagon was hit in a relatively UN-OCCUPIED area. Who-ever was manipulating the events of 911, was CLEARLY DOING DAMAGE CONTROL - something that would --NOT-- have been in the best interests of Bush and company. For *them* - the more damage, the more loss of life, the more HORROR, the +++BETTER+++. Instead, they were forced to have to RESPOND instead of initiate - a position of ABSOLUTE DISADVANTAGE.

If the Puppet Master was indeed behind the events of 911, and indeed is of an STO bent, then he certainly AGONIZED over the decision to assist it's manifestation. He chose to do so, if the argument holds, because in his assessment, there were no other "effective" options available. **THIS** was the lesser of two evils.

While I am still personally SKEPTICAL that **NO** other less horrific and violent options were available, knowing the nature of war as I do, and the inevitable confrontation with disagreeable turns-of-events, sometimes to do NOTHING is the GREATER of evils.

I DO NOT CONDONE the events of 911 - but I will stop short of condemning the Puppet Master given the difficulties, complexity, and limitations of his power and capabilities.

I'm keeping an open mind - and I hope you will as well. In the final analysis, the ULTIMATE IRONY may indeed be, that as shocking as it might be to actually contemplate, I in fact may own my very life, to the actions ... of the Puppet Master.


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Thread: ZetaMax - a 911 Survivor discusses the Puppet Master and 911
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I AM A 911 SURVIVOR.

The human posting as ***ZetaMax*** was on the 31st Floor of Tower One of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. I was sitting in my cubicle working on a Perl program, when American Airlines Flight 11 slammed into the North Tower - the one I was working in. The details of my survival mirror thousands of others, and all-in-all, is one of the more mundane - for a day that was anything BUT. Briefly, I walked down 31 flights of stairs in about 25 minutes and exited to see TWO towers on fire. After about fifteen minutes I proceeded to walk north along the West Side Highway, and was well over a mile away when Tower Two collapsed. As a result of my wise decision to vacate the area early, the dust cloud did not reach me. Other than scaring the hell out of my family, a bad sunburn, and the loss of about $1200 dollars in personal items, 911 had little adverse impact on my life. In fact, I actually benefitted, for my contract was due to expire on September 30, but as a result of the need to retain people knowledgable about the computer infrastructure, my consulting contract was extended. It was not however a joyous time to say the least. I lost 12 co-workers, and chose to remain with other survivors who all struggled with trauma arrising from this event.

But enough about me, this thread is about how 911 came about, and who was behind it.

Nancy Leider has just revealed in her latest video:
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

that the Zetas say the insider behind 911, was none other than the Puppet Master - an individual patriarch of an off-the-books branch of the Rothschild's Banking Dynasty.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written Apr 7, 2007 on the live GodlikeProduction live chat.

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OH I had forgotten that claim- thanks for reminding me- you are a perl programmer too....

notice the other signs that all is not well in Dodge (or N.Y. as the case may be)

`The human posting as ***ZetaMax*** was on the 31st Floor of Tower One of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.'

The human posting as ***aussie 763724*** finds someone posting about such a massively personal thing happening in their life using wording like this extremely unlikely
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If the Puppet Master was indeed behind the events of 911, and indeed is of an STO bent, then he certainly AGONIZED over the decision to assist it's manifestation. He chose to do so, if the argument holds, because in his assessment, there were no other "effective" options available. **THIS** was the lesser of two evils.

While I am still personally SKEPTICAL that **NO** other less horrific and violent options were available, knowing the nature of war as I do, and the inevitable confrontation with disagreeable turns-of-events, sometimes to do NOTHING is the GREATER of evils.

I DO NOT CONDONE the events of 911 - but I will stop short of condemning the Puppet Master given the difficulties, complexity, and limitations of his power and capabilities.

I'm keeping an open mind - and I hope you will as well. In the final analysis, the ULTIMATE IRONY may indeed be, that as shocking as it might be to actually contemplate, I in fact may own my very life, to the actions ... of the Puppet Master.

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Talk about being fucked up in the head.

I hope you're just trolling again.
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has he ever done anything BUT troll?

(bad move melfy bringing up the older posts you made- I went back into your older posts and man- it paints you in a less and less nicer way the further back I go- I had forgotten how plain nasty you were back when you and luser 78 were pals)

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