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And you have proof of this? Of course you don't. You just buy into any conspiracy because you like to feel like a helpless victim waiting for some supernatural event to redeem you. It's much easier than owning up to your part in the mess this world is in and doing something to change it. It's much easier to blame the boogeymen that hide under your bed and seek guidance from B movies and youtube videos and every internet doom charlatan that crosses your path. What a pathetic waste of life.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


It's funny how much time and energy Max puts in to disasters that are either imaginary or extremely unlikely to ever happen instead of putting that effort in to preparing for something that can and likely will happen.
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Here's your Stinky Linky, Melfster..... [link to zetatalk.com]

....and I quote....."The best solution was one given to our Emissary, Nancy, years ago, which she detailed as a trench solution. Not underground, buried, but only a shallow trench. Cover this by a metal sheet, well anchored, or board covered by sod so they will not burn. This provides cover from the wind, from firestorms, and a long trench of this nature will not have all the oxygen sucked out in case of even a firestorm overhead."

rofl

and then.......I quote.....One cannot be dashed, as the most one laying in a shallow trench can be thrown is a few inches to the side. Thus, except for what may fall upon this covered trench, no worry.

yes_sir No worry there, Nancy you fool!!!!
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Ouch! What say you now, Max?
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hopefully none of the believers at that time actually fixed themselves only to find that the pole shift never came and they would never have children.

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Personally, if they were dumb enough to listen to Nancy and do what she told them then they don't need to have any children. That would just serve to pollute the gene pool even more.
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Big_smile Now surely you cannot get more STO than that. I mean who ever said that the debunkers were never looking out for the betterment of mankind.

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This is the year 2012. Yes, shit hits the fan - big time - this year. The end of the story !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309084


Well actually there is a much bigger EVENT taking place on planet Earth come January 1st 2012.....

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Going around and telling them it won't happen, making believers sound like crazy people, and being mean to them WILL CONTRIBUTE DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE'S DEATHS by discouraging them from preparing their resources!!!

 Quoting: Lady Impossibility


People said *precisely* the same thing to me at Y2K. Yet my prognostications and preparations turned out to be exactly the right thing to do.

Why?

Because I *understood* what could happen, and what could *not* happen.

What the debunkers discourage here is adherence to *ignorance.* We, as a species, have very advanced ways of preparing for any number of eventualities, but given finite resources, it makes sense to prepare for events that are actually *possible.*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


lol The "off budget" secret government has spent TRILLIONS building underground facilities.

FOR WHAT?? And don't tell me "nuclear war" because EVERYONE has "bunker busters" that for a mere seven figures can turn a 10 figure facility into GARBAGE.

No - they're preparing for something else entirely. Of that, I am SURE. And the "outward" appearance of hostilities between the U.S., Russia and China is just that: APPEARANCES. When it comes to riding out whatever it is that threatens our planet in the near term, they (the LEADERS, intelligence communities and industrialists) are ALL on the same page. The movie 2012 made that ABUNDANTLY clear.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Actually i think most bunker busters are useless

take the 2700kg war head MOP hooked up to the b2 bomber

It can reach penetrate 60m in 5000psi reinforced concrete or 8m through 10000psi

The University of Tehran has made concrete 50,000 to 60,000 psi mix made from quartz and steel fibers. This before traditional reinforcement.

So how affective are those bunker busters really
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Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples:

She suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


LINK - or it didn't happen ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Wow. Took me less than 10 seconds to find one. All I did was google metal sod wind Nancy Lieder and came up with this:

com/profiles/blogs/personal-decisions?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3​A25614&page=2

I remember on one of her chat threads here she said that one must hold the sheet metal to prevent it from blowing away. We had a good laugh about that one. Can't be bothered to search for it, but I'm sure others will remember as well.
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And you have proof of this? Of course you don't. You just buy into any conspiracy because you like to feel like a helpless victim waiting for some supernatural event to redeem you. It's much easier than owning up to your part in the mess this world is in and doing something to change it. It's much easier to blame the boogeymen that hide under your bed and seek guidance from B movies and youtube videos and every internet doom charlatan that crosses your path. What a pathetic waste of life.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Proof??? Of course I *don't* have proof. How could I when by some estimates, as much as one third of all "government" documents produced since the United States was founded are, and remain, CLASSIFIED. Almost no one disputes that the single largest repository of written knowledge on THE PLANET is the Vatican Library - and "who" has access to THAT??? Certainly not anyone I know personally. Heck - we can't even get the recipe for Coca-Cola!

And you want "proof?".

heydere
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I see max has a head start celebrating 4/20. So you are saying that since there are classified documents and we don't know what's in them, then it must mean they contain the wildest paranoia driven speculation that can be imagined? Fuck you are a moron!
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Oops, link didn't paste here is your link Maxi, from the ning:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

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 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Bravo!!! Well done!
 Quoting: The Commentator


Yes - if flagrant and unwarranted "character assassination" is your thing.

devil6
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Melfey, you don't have a character in the first place! Your just an odd sock that Nancy puts her hand up to hide from reality!
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Melfey, you don't have a character in the first place! Your just an odd sock that Nancy puts her hand up to hide from reality!
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 1349307


I don't know about that Prof...

I think he has a quite distinct character indeed

It's a shame it's so unpleasant



(oh BTW maxipad)




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`soon' (every time maxipad uses that word I inwardly cringe and want to slap him around the head at the same- tell the boy to wake up to himself)
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The movie "Knowing" delivered the same message - except in that one the "elect" were a small number of children.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

The Movie delivered a message.

Tsk, Tsk, Tsk.

If any, its probably not the one you have understood.



About 27.06.2011 Page 1000 will be reached
About 03.06.2014 Page 2000 will be reached

Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
890 days gone, 256 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
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Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples:

She suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


LINK - or it didn't happen ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Wow. Took me less than 10 seconds to find one. All I did was google metal sod wind Nancy Lieder and came up with this:

com/profiles/blogs/personal-decisions?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3​A25614&page=2

I remember on one of her chat threads here she said that one must hold the sheet metal to prevent it from blowing away. We had a good laugh about that one. Can't be bothered to search for it, but I'm sure others will remember as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038225


Hope you "enjoyed" your laugh - I assure you, you won't have the last one.

The narrow trench, just wide enough to wedge yourself in, is actually a brilliantly simple idea that is easy to create in just an hour or two, and one that will provide an ample amount of protection against high winds, firestorms, and richtor 9 earthquakes.

By itself though, the protection is only partial. To increase the protective capacity, some cover is necessary. Now I said "link or it didn't happen" - and I was RIGHT. You used the word "moss" instead of the word "sod" which may mean the same thing in Australia or the UK, but in the United States where Nancy resides, and who she has stated was her target audience, "moss" and "sod" are VERY different. Moss is a distinct plant:

Mosses are small, soft plants that are typically 1–10 cm (0.4–4 in) tall, though some species are much larger. They commonly grow close together in clumps or mats in damp or shady locations. They do not have flowers or seeds, and their simple leaves cover the thin wiry stems. At certain times mosses produce spore capsules which may appear as beak-like capsules borne aloft on thin stalks.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Sod on the other hand, is surface grass, PLUS a good deal of topsoil - at least two to three inches thick:

Sod or turf is grass and the part of the soil beneath it held together by the roots, or a piece of thin material.

The term sod may be used to mean turf grown and cut specifically for the establishment of lawns.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Sod - even one layer will increase the protective qualities of the trench by a VERY significant factor. It will provide some radiation insulation, as well as heat and fire protection due to its moisture content.

But for complete protection against gamma radiation from the sun, as well as intense firestorms, a minimum of THREE FEET would be necessary. It would be a LOT of work to build this with only hand tools, but it's do-able.

Of course you would need something to support the "sod" - such as a sheet of plywood, or doors, a large tabletop, etc. Even box springs would work in a pinch.

As far as the "sheet metal" goes, she was actually referring to a CAR HOOD - which being held on with only four bolts, is ideal as a cover in an emergency, and when time IS NOT AVAILABLE. She offered this suggestion for those caught in the open with maybe only minutes to find or create some form of protection. Someone who has a wrench can even assist other motorists to use their hood as well. And yes, if there was NO TIME to cover the hood with dirt, there would be no choice but to literally hold on to it - but not so tightly that if the wind got underneath, that you allow it make you a "passenger". yes, it is a FAR from ideal form of protection, but its BETTER THAN NOTHING.

Do you have a BETTER suggestion if caught out in the open with no other protection available? The only preparation needed is a cresent wrench - which one can get for about twenty dollars at any hardware store and throw in the glove box or trunk.

How is doing that "insane"?

Pray tell ...
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The narrow trench, just wide enough to wedge yourself in, is actually a brilliantly simple idea that is easy to create in just an hour or two, and one that will provide an ample amount of protection against high winds, firestorms, and richtor 9 earthquakes.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


lol4me Yep GLP Melfdown for sure ohyeah

PS: When you experience your next ARRIVAL of the PX and hence the next scheduled pole shifting EVENT could you please get back to us Melfy on how the "trench" went for ya after the 9 mag earthquake....with you lying down inside it of course!!!!

You're a zidiot for sure, Melfster.

Tpinhead

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Hope you "enjoyed" your laugh - I assure you, you won't have the last one.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Um, sorry...yes, we will because there is no "Planet X" and there will be no "pole shift."

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!


Now I said "link or it didn't happen" - and I was RIGHT. You used the word "moss" instead of the word "sod" which may mean the same thing in Australia or the UK, but in the United States where Nancy resides, and who she has stated was her target audience, "moss" and "sod" are VERY different.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


No, you're wrong...all you're doing here is spinning.

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The narrow trench, just wide enough to wedge yourself in, is actually a brilliantly simple idea that is easy to create in just an hour or two, and one that will provide an ample amount of protection against high winds, firestorms, and richtor 9 earthquakes.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


lol4me Yep GLP Melfdown for sure ohyeah

PS: When you experience your next ARRIVAL of the PX and hence the next scheduled pole shifting EVENT could you please get back to us Melfy on how the "trench" went for ya after the 9 mag earthquake....with you lying down inside it of course!!!!

You're a zidiot for sure, Melfster.

Tpinhead
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


You make it sound like I go out to my front lawn and lay under a car hood for one hour each morning - believing it will protect me from "pole shifts".

_absurd
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Do you have a BETTER suggestion if caught out in the open with no other protection available? The only preparation needed is a cresent wrench - which one can get for about twenty dollars at any hardware store and throw in the glove box or trunk.

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Well actually if you took that same cresent wrench and smacked yourself fair across your head with it then you may well have achieved something of significance. You see Melfy, besides the fact of having a very sore headache etc, you will be suddenly awakened out of your doomsday wetdream to realise that the year 2003/2004 has come and gone and your LIEDer's rantings are nothing less than those of a person far removed from reality.
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You make it sound like I go out to my front lawn and lay under a car hood for one hour each morning - believing it will protect me from "pole shifts".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


lol4me Of that I have no doubt!!

Don't worry though Melfy your "trench" exercise efforts on your front lawn are being monitored....so expect a "call" any day now....and NO it won't be a visit from your imaginary Zita Overlords but it will be a visit from some people alot more closer to earth......

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How is doing that "insane"?

Pray tell ...
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The insanity is the belief that an object could cause a "pole shift" without impacting the Earth. And if an object large enough to cause a shift in the rotational axis impacted the Earth, there would be no survival.

Consider that it took a protoplanet slightly smaller than Mars impacting the Earth that gave it the current 23.5 degree tilt. And that would have blown away the Earth's atmosphere and caused both the Earth and the protoplanet (Theia) to become molten. And material ejected in the impact is what became the Moon.

A large object merely passing near the Earth would not overcome the Earth's angular momentum to cause an axial tilt. A large object passing the Earth would affect the Earth's orbit, and there is no sign of that having occurred which would still be obvious if the fictional "Nibiru" had passed through the inner solar system 3,600 years ago.
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How is doing that "insane"?

Pray tell ...
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The insanity is the belief that an object could cause a "pole shift" without impacting the Earth. And if an object large enough to cause a shift in the rotational axis impacted the Earth, there would be no survival.

Consider that it took a protoplanet slightly smaller than Mars impacting the Earth that gave it the current 23.5 degree tilt. And that would have blown away the Earth's atmosphere and caused both the Earth and the protoplanet (Theia) to become molten. And material ejected in the impact is what became the Moon.

A large object merely passing near the Earth would not overcome the Earth's angular momentum to cause an axial tilt. A large object passing the Earth would affect the Earth's orbit, and there is no sign of that having occurred which would still be obvious if the fictional "Nibiru" had passed through the inner solar system 3,600 years ago.
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You are rationalising against a Neuronless Vacuum Head (NVH) which is in no means able to rationalize.
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How is doing that "insane"?

Pray tell ...
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The insanity is the belief that an object could cause a "pole shift" without impacting the Earth. And if an object large enough to cause a shift in the rotational axis impacted the Earth, there would be no survival.

Consider that it took a protoplanet slightly smaller than Mars impacting the Earth that gave it the current 23.5 degree tilt. And that would have blown away the Earth's atmosphere and caused both the Earth and the protoplanet (Theia) to become molten. And material ejected in the impact is what became the Moon.

A large object merely passing near the Earth would not overcome the Earth's angular momentum to cause an axial tilt. A large object passing the Earth would affect the Earth's orbit, and there is no sign of that having occurred which would still be obvious if the fictional "Nibiru" had passed through the inner solar system 3,600 years ago.
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You are rationalising against a Neuronless Vacuum Head (NVH) which is in no means able to rationalize.
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I am **SICK** of the LIES and the SHILLING!!!!

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How is doing that "insane"?

Pray tell ...
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The insanity is the belief that an object could cause a "pole shift" without impacting the Earth. And if an object large enough to cause a shift in the rotational axis impacted the Earth, there would be no survival.

Consider that it took a protoplanet slightly smaller than Mars impacting the Earth that gave it the current 23.5 degree tilt. And that would have blown away the Earth's atmosphere and caused both the Earth and the protoplanet (Theia) to become molten. And material ejected in the impact is what became the Moon.

A large object merely passing near the Earth would not overcome the Earth's angular momentum to cause an axial tilt. A large object passing the Earth would affect the Earth's orbit, and there is no sign of that having occurred which would still be obvious if the fictional "Nibiru" had passed through the inner solar system 3,600 years ago.
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You are rationalising against a Neuronless Vacuum Head (NVH) which is in no means able to rationalize.
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I am **SICK** of the LIES and the SHILLING!!!!

noshill
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Then please stop shilling and lying. You can do it if you try.
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Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples:

She suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


LINK - or it didn't happen ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples:

She suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


LINK - or it didn't happen ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Wow. Took me less than 10 seconds to find one. All I did was google metal sod wind Nancy Lieder and came up with this:

com/profiles/blogs/personal-decisions?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3​A25614&page=2

I remember on one of her chat threads here she said that one must hold the sheet metal to prevent it from blowing away. We had a good laugh about that one. Can't be bothered to search for it, but I'm sure others will remember as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038225


Hope you "enjoyed" your laugh - I assure you, you won't have the last one.

The narrow trench, just wide enough to wedge yourself in, is actually a brilliantly simple idea that is easy to create in just an hour or two, and one that will provide an ample amount of protection against high winds, firestorms, and richtor 9 earthquakes.

By itself though, the protection is only partial. To increase the protective capacity, some cover is necessary. Now I said "link or it didn't happen" - and I was RIGHT. You used the word "moss" instead of the word "sod" which may mean the same thing in Australia or the UK, but in the United States where Nancy resides, and who she has stated was her target audience, "moss" and "sod" are VERY different. Moss is a distinct plant:

Mosses are small, soft plants that are typically 1–10 cm (0.4–4 in) tall, though some species are much larger. They commonly grow close together in clumps or mats in damp or shady locations. They do not have flowers or seeds, and their simple leaves cover the thin wiry stems. At certain times mosses produce spore capsules which may appear as beak-like capsules borne aloft on thin stalks.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Sod on the other hand, is surface grass, PLUS a good deal of topsoil - at least two to three inches thick:

Sod or turf is grass and the part of the soil beneath it held together by the roots, or a piece of thin material.

The term sod may be used to mean turf grown and cut specifically for the establishment of lawns.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Sod - even one layer will increase the protective qualities of the trench by a VERY significant factor. It will provide some radiation insulation, as well as heat and fire protection due to its moisture content.

But for complete protection against gamma radiation from the sun, as well as intense firestorms, a minimum of THREE FEET would be necessary. It would be a LOT of work to build this with only hand tools, but it's do-able.

Of course you would need something to support the "sod" - such as a sheet of plywood, or doors, a large tabletop, etc. Even box springs would work in a pinch.

As far as the "sheet metal" goes, she was actually referring to a CAR HOOD - which being held on with only four bolts, is ideal as a cover in an emergency, and when time IS NOT AVAILABLE. She offered this suggestion for those caught in the open with maybe only minutes to find or create some form of protection. Someone who has a wrench can even assist other motorists to use their hood as well. And yes, if there was NO TIME to cover the hood with dirt, there would be no choice but to literally hold on to it - but not so tightly that if the wind got underneath, that you allow it make you a "passenger". yes, it is a FAR from ideal form of protection, but its BETTER THAN NOTHING.

Do you have a BETTER suggestion if caught out in the open with no other protection available? The only preparation needed is a cresent wrench - which one can get for about twenty dollars at any hardware store and throw in the glove box or trunk.

How is doing that "insane"?

Pray tell ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


LOL. Max spinning faster than a politician caught leaving a whorehouse.
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples:

She suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


LINK - or it didn't happen ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973304


From the ZetaTalk page cited above:

Do you imagine that the rich would lie in such a trench? They will be in their houses, in protected underground structures, and be trapped or crushed there. They will be, if above ground, behind shielded windows they assume safe, and be blown about, tossed like leaves along the ground. They will not heed our advice, as they listen only to themselves and their crowd, who have been led astray by the Service-to-Self they gave the Call to, and are allowing themselves to an agony of death and entrapment as this is how the Service-to-Self harvest souls. Thus, our advice will not be heeded by them, but will benefit those of good heart, whom we prefer to be speaking to in any case.

Mexcited Dawesome

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From the ZetaTalk page cited above:

Do you imagine that the rich would lie in such a trench? They will be in their houses, in protected underground structures, and be trapped or crushed there. They will be, if above ground, behind shielded windows they assume safe, and be blown about, tossed like leaves along the ground. They will not heed our advice, as they listen only to themselves and their crowd, who have been led astray by the Service-to-Self they gave the Call to, and are allowing themselves to an agony of death and entrapment as this is how the Service-to-Self harvest souls. Thus, our advice will not be heeded by them, but will benefit those of good heart, whom we prefer to be speaking to in any case.

:Mexcited: :Dawesome:
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And melfy, the fence SHITTER extra`ordinary' has the utter gaul to say he is `on the fence', `undecided' and all the rest of it

He is a nancyboi, through and through

of THAT there is no doubt

PMSL

look at that melfy spin, if he went any faster the bearings would start smoking.....
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I am **SICK** of the LIES and the SHILLING!!!!

:noshill:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Well stop telling lies and shilling then melfy

It's easy to do
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I am **SICK** of the LIES and the SHILLING!!!!

:noshill:
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Then please stop shilling and lying. You can do it if you try.


SNAP

(hey the sun is just barely on the horizon here and I just got out of bed)
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04/20/2011 08:26 PM
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How is doing that "insane"?

Pray tell ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

The insanity is the belief that an object could cause a "pole shift" without impacting the Earth. And if an object large enough to cause a shift in the rotational axis impacted the Earth, there would be no survival.

Consider that it took a protoplanet slightly smaller than Mars impacting the Earth that gave it the current 23.5 degree tilt. And that would have blown away the Earth's atmosphere and caused both the Earth and the protoplanet (Theia) to become molten. And material ejected in the impact is what became the Moon.

A large object merely passing near the Earth would not overcome the Earth's angular momentum to cause an axial tilt. A large object passing the Earth would affect the Earth's orbit, and there is no sign of that having occurred which would still be obvious if the fictional "Nibiru" had passed through the inner solar system 3,600 years ago.
 Quoting: Gazmik


You are rationalising against a Neuronless Vacuum Head (NVH) which is in no means able to rationalize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


I am **SICK** of the LIES and the SHILLING!!!!


noshill
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**



So all you have to do is shut your lying shilling, trolling mouth melfy, or are you bridget today?
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Oh, my.

[link to www.stylelist.com]

I wonder what *this* sign means to Nancy...
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Andrew and I have been 'hard' at work on our own "Pole Shift shelter."

When PX looms large in the sky, Andrew will lie back in our Survival Ditch. I will lie atop him, keeping myself firmly anchored to the Earth with the aid of Andrew's erect penis.

We will then ride out the Pole Shift winds.

We practice this Pole shift safety measure every evening, and twice on Tuesdays.

My clench strength is impressive, and I am a 911 survivor.