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**ZetaMax** User ID: 1332505  United States05/22/2011 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which "moron" are you referring to? Camping? Quoting: **ZetaMax** .....and an obvious "scammer" as well.I APOLOGIZE for my role in spreading this disinformation here on the debunker thread. I hope you can see it in your hearts to forgive me ... I have been humbled.  Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 05/22/2011 09:07 AM |
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| Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States05/22/2011 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to news.yahoo.com] Family Radio International's message has been broadcast in 61 languages. He has said that his earlier apocalyptic prediction in 1994 didn't come true because of a mathematical error. Quoting: Associated Press"I'm not embarrassed about it. It was just the fact that it was premature," he told The Associated Press last month. But this time, he said, "there is...no possibility that it will not happen." Well, Mr. Camping...what say you now? I wonder if this guy will have the balls to show his face again? Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 05/22/2011 09:34 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| Setheory User ID: 1395390 United States05/22/2011 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which "moron" are you referring to? Camping? Quoting: **ZetaMax**.....and an obvious "scammer" as well.I APOLOGIZE for my role in spreading this disinformation here on the debunker thread. I hope you can see it in your hearts to forgive me ... I have been humbled. :100percent: The sad thing is, you won't learn a damn thing from it. Pathological... |
| bob_909 User ID: 1387954 United States05/22/2011 01:01 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how long it will take for melfy to latch onto another date (with it's resultant failure) for DOOM! As usual, it's always SOON for him. Last Edited by bob_909 on 05/22/2011 01:02 PM “Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74444 United States05/22/2011 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which "moron" are you referring to? Camping? Quoting: **ZetaMax**.....and an obvious "scammer" as well.I APOLOGIZE for my role in spreading this disinformation here on the debunker thread. I hope you can see it in your hearts to forgive me ... I have been humbled. :100percent: Interesting. |
| **ZetaMax** User ID: 1332505 United States05/22/2011 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which "moron" are you referring to? Camping? Quoting: **ZetaMax**.....and an obvious "scammer" as well.I APOLOGIZE for my role in spreading this disinformation here on the debunker thread. I hope you can see it in your hearts to forgive me ... I have been humbled. Interesting. I verified his calculations too. Sorry - no refunds! |
| Menow User ID: 1389340 United States05/22/2011 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which "moron" are you referring to? Camping? Quoting: **ZetaMax**.....and an obvious "scammer" as well.I APOLOGIZE for my role in spreading this disinformation here on the debunker thread. I hope you can see it in your hearts to forgive me ... I have been humbled. :100percent: Interesting. He doesn't mean this any more than he means anything else he says. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States05/22/2011 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the first reported case I've been able to find of someone that believed Camping so deeply that she tried to kill her children and herself. [link to freakoutnation.com] A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| **ZetaMax** User ID: 1332505 United States05/22/2011 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the first reported case I've been able to find of someone that believed Camping so deeply that she tried to kill her children and herself. Quoting: Circuit Breaker[link to freakoutnation.com]  There is **NO** mention of Camping in the report. She also tried to do herself in on Friday evening - before the Saturday May 21st party even got started. Plus she was going to off herself and her children in her friend's house??? What's up with THAT?? That's Fucked Up. Susan Smith has a sister. MOVE ALONG - nothing to see here ... Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 05/22/2011 09:41 PM |
| KeepingItReal User ID: 1038225  Canada05/22/2011 09:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the sun is too northtard thread: Yes I have a sundial, well, I HAD a sundial in my backyard and it was completely taken apart by someone (some thing?) over night. It's been there for years...and now it's in pieces all over the backyard. Thrown around. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1395320And the sun definitely is rising and setting wierd....I get up early mornings all the time and noticed the sun rising much farther north than where it should at this time of year. It's rising and setting where it should be in August, not in May. Looks like the planet is tipping.... Thread: The Sun is Setting too far to the North for May (Page 8) They're all wound up and paranoid. Even the moon isn't where it should be. LOL. They have come up with an accurate way of measuring it all too: OK I'll try to be more specific. It was early this morning around 6 a.m., in the heartland, clear sky. The sun was up, and its rising appears to be in the proper placement for this time of year. I am facing south, the moon was in the southwest perhaps 30 degrees up from the mountainous horizon. It was setting not rising. There are many times I see the moon while the sun is in the sky. My thumbnail sizing was totally off base. Going outside the second time made me remeasure it. I laid my fingernails along side of it and it was in between pinky nail and third fingernail size. From the tip of my nose to the full extended finger tips of my hand it is exactly 36 inches. (I've always used this when I did not have a yard stick, very accurate) It just seemed so Tiny, not like last month when it looked like we could just reach up and grab it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359029Don't mean to go from sun to moon but they are both in my gardening repertoire. Brother and sister. Since it has been so cloudy for the last month seeing them does not compare to the last time I saw them and they don't look like what I remember from last year. ROFLMAO Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States05/22/2011 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is **NO** mention of Camping in the report. She also tried to do herself in on Friday evening - before the Saturday May 21st party even got started. Plus she was going to off herself and her children in her friend's house??? What's up with THAT?? That's Fucked Up. Susan Smith has a sister. MOVE ALONG - nothing to see here ... You didn't watch the video associate with it did you? Obviously not. She did this because she thought the world was going to end on Saturday. Where would she have gotten that idea? And no...she tried to off herself at her own house. You're right...nothing to see here because this prophecy failed. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States05/22/2011 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the sun is too northtard thread: Quoting: KeepingItRealYes I have a sundial, well, I HAD a sundial in my backyard and it was completely taken apart by someone (some thing?) over night. It's been there for years...and now it's in pieces all over the backyard. Thrown around. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1395320And the sun definitely is rising and setting wierd....I get up early mornings all the time and noticed the sun rising much farther north than where it should at this time of year. It's rising and setting where it should be in August, not in May. Looks like the planet is tipping.... Thread: The Sun is Setting too far to the North for May (Page 8) They're all wound up and paranoid. Even the moon isn't where it should be. LOL. They have come up with an accurate way of measuring it all too: OK I'll try to be more specific. It was early this morning around 6 a.m., in the heartland, clear sky. The sun was up, and its rising appears to be in the proper placement for this time of year. I am facing south, the moon was in the southwest perhaps 30 degrees up from the mountainous horizon. It was setting not rising. There are many times I see the moon while the sun is in the sky. My thumbnail sizing was totally off base. Going outside the second time made me remeasure it. I laid my fingernails along side of it and it was in between pinky nail and third fingernail size. From the tip of my nose to the full extended finger tips of my hand it is exactly 36 inches. (I've always used this when I did not have a yard stick, very accurate) It just seemed so Tiny, not like last month when it looked like we could just reach up and grab it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359029Don't mean to go from sun to moon but they are both in my gardening repertoire. Brother and sister. Since it has been so cloudy for the last month seeing them does not compare to the last time I saw them and they don't look like what I remember from last year. ROFLMAO  A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States05/22/2011 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....why does this sound familiar? [link to news.yahoo.com] The classic study of "doomsdays gone bad" took place in 1954. A Chicago woman named Dorothy Martin predicted a cataclysmic flood from which a few true believers would be saved by aliens. Martin and her cult, The Seekers, gathered the night before the expected flood to await the flying saucer. Unbeknown to them, however, their group had been infiltrated by psychologist Leon Festinger, who hoped to find out what happens when the rug of people's beliefs is pulled out from under them. Quoting: LiveScienceFestinger's study, which became the basis of the book "When Prophecy Fails" (Harper-Torchbooks 1956), revealed that as the appointed time passed with no alien visitors, the group sat stunned. But a few hours before dawn, Martin suddenly received a new prophecy, stating that The Seekers had been so devout that God had called off the apocalypse. At that, the group rejoiced — and started calling newspapers to boast of what they'd done. Eventually, the group fell apart. Martin later changed her name to "Sister Thedra" and continued her prophecies. Sounds a lot like Nancy doesn't it? Make note of Martin's excuse...it wouldn't surprise me if Nancy did something similar. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 05/22/2011 11:00 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17230  Germany05/23/2011 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm, wow, 10 minutes after 6:00 EDT and no sign of massive quakes. So, Mr. Camping and Mr. Fitzpatrick...what say you now? Quoting: Circuit BreakerThrow in melfy/bridget, freaky, and wankdrew into that mix and you could have the perfect storm of stupid! Honolulu still has 9.5 hours left!!!! How you can still stick on the last minutes and clutch the straw is beyond human understanding.... so this time again you are the idiot and can live. No hero, no doom. About 22.06.2011 Page 1000 will be reached You continuously decide to be the idiot, and if ever you get to be a hero you'll die. Is that your chosen prospect for your life ? Since 32 days about 146 days to go until Elenin will pass Earth unnoticed and naked-eye-invisible in 34 Million km distance (90 times Earth-Moon) at 16. Okt.2011, only 44 days bevor Nancys final failure at 31.Dec. 2011, and exact in time to declare Melfys Prediction "Elenin is PX" to bullshit. Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 948) Melfys favourite Clif's published DOOM DATES: Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 953) Cycle number | Maya strength number | Date Of Cycle 10 | 87.1 | Sunday, August 01, 2010 failed 9 | 42.24 | Wednesday, October 27, 2010 failed 8 | 2.3 | Saturday, January 22, 2011 failed 7 | 47 | Tuesday, April 19, 2011 failed 6 | 91.7 | Friday, July 15, 2011 pospect: failure 5 | 223.6 | Tuesday, October 11, 2011 prospect: failure 4 | 181.1 | Friday, January 06, 2012 prospect: failure 3 | 225.9 | Tuesday, April 03, 2012 prospect: failure 2 | 89.4 | Friday, June 29, 2012 prospect: failure 1 | 44 | Wednesday, September 26, 2012 prospect: failure 0 | 360 | Thursday, December 20, 2012 prospect: failure |
| **ZetaMax** User ID: 1396585 United States05/23/2011 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....why does this sound familiar? Quoting: Circuit Breaker[link to news.yahoo.com] The classic study of "doomsdays gone bad" took place in 1954. A Chicago woman named Dorothy Martin predicted a cataclysmic flood from which a few true believers would be saved by aliens. Martin and her cult, The Seekers, gathered the night before the expected flood to await the flying saucer. Unbeknown to them, however, their group had been infiltrated by psychologist Leon Festinger, who hoped to find out what happens when the rug of people's beliefs is pulled out from under them. Quoting: LiveScienceFestinger's study, which became the basis of the book "When Prophecy Fails" (Harper-Torchbooks 1956), revealed that as the appointed time passed with no alien visitors, the group sat stunned. But a few hours before dawn, Martin suddenly received a new prophecy, stating that The Seekers had been so devout that God had called off the apocalypse. At that, the group rejoiced — and started calling newspapers to boast of what they'd done. Eventually, the group fell apart. Martin later changed her name to "Sister Thedra" and continued her prophecies. Sounds a lot like Nancy doesn't it? Make note of Martin's excuse...it wouldn't surprise me if Nancy did something similar. I guess all you **SHILLS** think all this tornado activity - both the amount and intensity - is completely "normal" huh? Or - you'll say like Circuit Stupid, that it's all a product of "Man-Made Global Warming". (Had to spend a half hour in my own basement last night.)  Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 05/23/2011 07:39 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1395282 United States05/23/2011 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....why does this sound familiar? Quoting: Circuit Breaker[link to news.yahoo.com] The classic study of "doomsdays gone bad" took place in 1954. A Chicago woman named Dorothy Martin predicted a cataclysmic flood from which a few true believers would be saved by aliens. Martin and her cult, The Seekers, gathered the night before the expected flood to await the flying saucer. Unbeknown to them, however, their group had been infiltrated by psychologist Leon Festinger, who hoped to find out what happens when the rug of people's beliefs is pulled out from under them. Quoting: LiveScienceFestinger's study, which became the basis of the book "When Prophecy Fails" (Harper-Torchbooks 1956), revealed that as the appointed time passed with no alien visitors, the group sat stunned. But a few hours before dawn, Martin suddenly received a new prophecy, stating that The Seekers had been so devout that God had called off the apocalypse. At that, the group rejoiced — and started calling newspapers to boast of what they'd done. Eventually, the group fell apart. Martin later changed her name to "Sister Thedra" and continued her prophecies. Sounds a lot like Nancy doesn't it? Make note of Martin's excuse...it wouldn't surprise me if Nancy did something similar. I guess all you **SHILLS** think all this tornado activity - both the amount and intensity - is completely "normal" huh? Or - you'll say like Circuit Stupid, that it's all a product of "Man-Made Global Warming". (Had to spend a half hour in my own basement last night.) :stupid_burns: :zright: Debunkers control the horizontal shills control the vertical welcome to THE OUTER LIMITS schmuck |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17230 Germany05/23/2011 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess all you **SHILLS** .... Quoting: **ZetaMax**dont call us shills, you moron. .....think all this tornado activity - both the amount and intensity - is completely "normal" huh? Quoting: **ZetaMax**Yes. it has been, it is, and it will be. and additionally, it seems to be normal that you are a stubborn idiot without any possibility to learn just the tiniest bit. About 29.06.2011 Page 1000 will be reached You continuously decide to be the idiot, and if ever you get to be a hero you'll die. Is that your chosen prospect for your life ? Since 32 days about 146 days to go until Elenin will pass Earth unnoticed and naked-eye-invisible in 34 Million km distance (90 times Earth-Moon) at 16. Okt.2011, only 44 days bevor Nancys final failure at 31.Dec. 2011, and exact in time to declare Melfys Prediction "Elenin is PX" to bullshit. Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 948) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74444 United States05/23/2011 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tornadoes suck. I am sorry you had to spend time in your basement. They have **nothing to do** with a supposed incoming planet. Particularly as no one has yet been able to figure out/explain such a causality -- or where all the other DEFINITIVE effects of a supposed incoming planet are. The explanation lies somewhere else. |
| **ZetaMax** User ID: 659599 United States05/23/2011 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tornadoes suck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444I am sorry you had to spend time in your basement. They have **nothing to do** with a supposed incoming planet. Particularly as no one has yet been able to figure out/explain such a causality -- or where all the other DEFINITIVE effects of a supposed incoming planet are. The explanation lies somewhere else. Gee - what insight you have! Let's see ... a "storm" consists primarily of TWO things: WATER VAPOR ELECTRICITY They are also affected by pressure and temperature. Change the concentration of ANY one of these factors, and you get a fundamental CHANGE in the storm. A rogue planet would arguably affect earth gravitationally, and ELECTRO-MAGNETICALLY. And you say this wouldn't affect the weather???  Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 05/23/2011 02:08 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74444 United States05/23/2011 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you say this wouldn't affect the weather??? Quoting: **ZetaMax**No. I am saying it would affect the weather -- but have MANY other MEASURABLE effects, which we have definitively *not* had. Thus, since those other effects have not manifested, an incoming planet does not fit the facts. Many other phenomena fit better. But, then, you'd be in disagreement with Nancy's Dogma. And we can't have that. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States05/23/2011 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess all you **SHILLS** think all this tornado activity - both the amount and intensity - is completely "normal" huh? Quoting: **Stupid To The Max**Did anyone say it was normal? Or - you'll say like Circuit Stupid, that it's all a product of "Man-Made Global Warming". Quoting: ***Stupid To The Max**Makes a lot more sense than believing some "rogue planet" that continuously fails to show up is responsible. Can you prove that these tornado outbreaks are caused by something in space? Yeah, I thought not. Can you prove that global warming caused by human pollution ISN'T the cause? After all, many scientists have been warning for years that stuff like this will happen. And there's plenty of evidence to support those claims...a lot more evidence than there is to support your claims that it's caused by some "rogue planet." The ball is in your court.  Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 05/23/2011 04:49 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States05/23/2011 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gee - what insight you have! Let's see ... a "storm" consists primarily of TWO things: Quoting: **ZetaMax**WATER VAPOR ELECTRICITY They are also affected by pressure and temperature. Change the concentration of ANY one of these factors, and you get a fundamental CHANGE in the storm. A rogue planet would arguably affect earth gravitationally, and ELECTRO-MAGNETICALLY. And you say this wouldn't affect the weather??? You have absolutely no proof that any of the above is happening, nor do you have any proof that "Planet X" exists. Any planet that would be causing any of the things you just stated would also be very visible or be very detectable. Like 74444 said - there would be other affects than just the weather. I know where you'll go with this - you'll cite earthquake activity. While there have been some very strong quakes over the past 5 months, it's still within the range of what could be considered the "normal" activity for each year. It may very well be that these strong quakes all occurred within the first five months instead of being spread out over the entire year. I've decided you're just as bad as Harold Camping...you're thoroughly convinced, based on weak and circumstantial evidence, that the world is coming to an end. But, unlike Camping, you think it's all the result of some "rogue planet" that can't be seen or detected. You have as much proof to support your claims as he did. However, if you actually have concrete and verifiable evidence to support your beliefs, then by all means - present it.  Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 05/23/2011 04:58 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 1394022  New Zealand05/23/2011 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A rogue planet would arguably affect earth gravitationally, and ELECTRO-MAGNETICALLY. Quoting: **ZetaMax**And you say this wouldn't affect the weather???  I see that you are finally back on message Melfy.Your zetacult indoctrination seminars were well worth the money then eh!!  Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
| The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 1394022 New Zealand05/23/2011 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I APOLOGIZE for my role in spreading this disinformation here on the debunker thread. I hope you can see it in your hearts to forgive me ... Quoting: **ZetaMax**I have been humbled.  Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
| Menow User ID: 1389340 United States05/23/2011 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.christianpost.com] Family Radio’s international projects manager Matt Tuter told The Christian Post on Monday that he wants to get Harold Camping to respond on TV and radio about his failed Judgment Day prediction today. |
| Menow User ID: 1389340 United States05/23/2011 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same link: Listener Adrienne Martinez, 27, and her husband, Joel, had quit their jobs in New York City and moved to Orlando about a year ago after hearing and believing Camping’s May 21 prediction. Martinez had planned to attend medical school but decided not to because she believed that the world would soon end. The couple, who has a two-year-old daughter and a second child due next month, said they spent the past year distributing tracts and reading the Bible. “We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won’t have anything left,” Adrienne told NPR. |
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| walt User ID: 1397889  South Africa05/24/2011 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won’t have anything left,” Adrienne told NPR. Quoting: Menow 1389340That is sad.... my rugby website at [link to www.lionsworld.co.za] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17230 Germany05/24/2011 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A rogue planet would arguably affect earth gravitationally, and ELECTRO-MAGNETICALLY. Quoting: **ZetaMax**And you say this wouldn't affect the weather??? :wtfspock: Perhaps. A VERY SMALL Perhaps. But, the problem is - there is no rogue planet. About 22.06.2011 Page 1000 will be reached You continuously decide to be the idiot, and if ever you get to be a hero you'll die. Is that your chosen prospect for your life ? Since 33 days about 145 days to go until Elenin will pass Earth unnoticed and naked-eye-invisible in 34 Million km distance (90 times Earth-Moon) at 16. Okt.2011, only 44 days bevor Nancys final failure at 31.Dec. 2011, and exact in time to declare Melfys Prediction "Elenin is PX" to bullshit. Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 948) Melfys favourite Clif's published DOOM DATES: Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 953) Cycle number | Maya strength number | Date Of Cycle 10 | 87.1 | Sunday, August 01, 2010 failed 9 | 42.24 | Wednesday, October 27, 2010 failed 8 | 2.3 | Saturday, January 22, 2011 failed 7 | 47 | Tuesday, April 19, 2011 failed 6 | 91.7 | Friday, July 15, 2011 pospect: failure 5 | 223.6 | Tuesday, October 11, 2011 prospect: failure 4 | 181.1 | Friday, January 06, 2012 prospect: failure 3 | 225.9 | Tuesday, April 03, 2012 prospect: failure 2 | 89.4 | Friday, June 29, 2012 prospect: failure 1 | 44 | Wednesday, September 26, 2012 prospect: failure 0 | 360 | Thursday, December 20, 2012 prospect: failure |
