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We've had to very nice sunrises here the past two mornings. There has been a layer of clouds to the east that are thin enough to allow the sun to be seen but keep it from being too bright. Surprisingly, I didn't see "Planet X" to the "right" of the sun. In fact, I didn't see anything to the right or anywhere else around the sun. Yesterday, I was in the middle of my morning run, this morning I was on half way through my bike ride. Tomorrow I take a break so, if the same conditions are present, I'll get in the truck and drive to a good location and take a picture to post. Maybe the bunkers will have an explanation as to why "Planet X" isn't visible. For sake of argument, maybe I should take photos with my Nikon D5000 Digital SLR and the low quality camera built in to my cell phone...since web cams and cell phone cameras apparently have some unknown technology that allows them to "see" this "rogue planet."
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You're a debunker...the idiots will never accept a picture taken by you.
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Let me tell you one thing. I am not an idiot.
And this counts for most who take the zetatalk message serious and/or are contactees.

And yes am defening people like Andrew and myself.
It's the debunking crowd that stick their hands in the sand.
OOh yeah now they are going to say that we are the ones who do that .. but come on. I guess even if the pole shift is taken place they will still say "nothing is going on". There is no Pole shift. And when Nibiru is vissible to all. No no there is no Nibiru.

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You're a debunker...the idiots will never accept a picture taken by you.
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It has to be very blurred, out of focus, shot with the cheapest possible apparatus, then photo-shopped to invert some of the colours. When you've done all that Planet X becomes extremely obvious.
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Let me tell you one thing. I am not an idiot.
And this counts for most who take the zetatalk message serious and/or are contactees.

And yes am defening people like Andrew and myself.
It's the debunking crowd that stick their hands in the sand.
OOh yeah now they are going to say that we are the ones who do that .. but come on. I guess even if the pole shift is taken place they will still say "nothing is going on". There is no Pole shift. And when Nibiru is vissible to all. No no there is no Nibiru.

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 Quoting: Gerard 334168


Oh yes you are an idiot. It's quite obvious from this post!

According to Nancy Planet X has been visible since 2003. So why can you not produce an image of it?

'Debunkers' don't say 'nothing is going on', they say 'There is no Planet X!', which is a very different matter.

There is plenty going on, but NONE of it is due to Nancy's imaginary planet, which cannot be seen or photographed by anyone with any credibility, so that makes you a gullible idiot. QED.
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And yes am defening people like Andrew and myself.
It's the debunking crowd that stick their hands in the sand.
OOh yeah now they are going to say that we are the ones who do that .. but come on. I guess even if the pole shift is taken place they will still say "nothing is going on". There is no Pole shift. And when Nibiru is vissible to all. No no there is no Nibiru.

Gerard
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 Quoting: Gerard 334168

You have yet to prove that "Planet X" even exists. You've proven that no matter how many years go by with "Planet X" being a no show, you will continue to believe that it's coming at any minute. So, run along woo-woo. Feel free to come back when you have some conclusive evidence that proves "Planet X" exists....that would mean a photograph of said "planet." Until you can cough that up, you have nothing.
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Yeah sure. Well sorry to say but i am pretty sure i have an above average IQ and i am able to think for myself.


In 2008 i noticed the wobble with my own eyes. Shared the link before will do it again. Guess the crowd will give comments again like they usualy do.

From March 22, 2008

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Yeah sure. Well sorry to say but i am pretty sure i have an above average IQ and i am able to think for myself.


In 2008 i noticed the wobble with my own eyes. Shared the link before will do it again. Guess the crowd will give comments again like they usualy do.

From March 22, 2008

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Gerard 334168

Except that you've been proven wrong about the wobble. Here's a link to a video shot at night. Should you actually watch it instead of ignoring it as bunkers usually do, you'll see there's not even the slightest indication of a wobble.

[link to detudoblogue.blogspot.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

I've asked before how GOTO telescopes can still accurately track objects in the sky...something they should not be able to do if the Earth is wobbling. I guess you'll dodge and evade those points like you usually do.

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I used my brain, my eyes and my intution. And i don't say that science has no meaning. But my point is that science can't explain everything. Unlike what some would say over here. Those like CB, Hap and the like.

I had expierences, noticed ufos. Had visions and dreams.
And i read other pages and sites that describe about the same thing as Nancy describes, like a red cross in the sky when the time is there.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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I used my brain, my eyes and my intution. And i don't say that science has no meaning. But my point is that science can't explain everything. Unlike what some would say over here. Those like CB, Hap and the like.

I had expierences, noticed ufos. Had visions and dreams.
And i read other pages and sites that describe about the same thing as Nancy describes, like a red cross in the sky when the time is there.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Gerard 334168

Translation: You have your head in the sand. You have absolutely no evidence to back up your claims and yet, you expect others to just "take your word for it." Hard to do when you can easily be proven wrong. Visions and dreams prove nothing. Intuition does not make "Planet X" real.

Bye bye now.
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Here we go again, CB i made that page to proof a point.
If i had pictures of that evening, where the moon was first in the wrong postion and then in the right i would have shown them. But i haven't. But i guess that even those pictures wouldn't say a thing.
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Tell that that to the others who had expierces with aliens, tell that the ones who saw ufos. Tell that to the ones who saw visions of tidal waves and destruction.
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Yeah sure. Well sorry to say but i am pretty sure i have an above average IQ and i am able to think for myself.
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You've shown no evidence of this so far.
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Tell that that to the others who had expierces with aliens, tell that the ones who saw ufos. Tell that to the ones who saw visions of tidal waves and destruction.
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Delusional idiots like you.
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Tell that that to the others who had expierces with aliens, tell that the ones who saw ufos. Tell that to the ones who saw visions of tidal waves and destruction.
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How do we know those events actually happened? We don't. How do those events prove that "Planet X" exists? They don't.
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Yeah sure. Well sorry to say but i am pretty sure i have an above average IQ and i am able to think for myself.


In 2008 i noticed the wobble with my own eyes. Shared the link before will do it again. Guess the crowd will give comments again like they usualy do.

From March 22, 2008

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Gerard 334168


There is no wobble. If you think differently, please provide some evidence for it. A photograph of star trails would do it. But out of the tens of thousands of images of star trails I see on the internet, NONE show any wobble at all. NONE.

I'm sorry, but you ARE indeed an idiot.
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Here we go again, CB i made that page to proof a point.
If i had pictures of that evening, where the moon was first in the wrong postion and then in the right i would have shown them. But i haven't. But i guess that even those pictures wouldn't say a thing.
 Quoting: Gerard 334168


You are a cretin of heroic proportions if you believe that the Earth can simply jerk around like that. The forces required/unleashed would wreak havoc. It would be a cataclysm. You are either lying or you don't know what you saw.
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I used my brain, my eyes and my intution. And i don't say that science has no meaning. But my point is that science can't explain everything. Unlike what some would say over here. Those like CB, Hap and the like.

I had expierences, noticed ufos. Had visions and dreams.
And i read other pages and sites that describe about the same thing as Nancy describes, like a red cross in the sky when the time is there.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Gerard 334168


In other words...you have NOTHING.

Hap at least provides long time exposure images that show NO WOBBLE.
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Here we go again, CB i made that page to proof a point.
If i had pictures of that evening, where the moon was first in the wrong postion and then in the right i would have shown them. But i haven't. But i guess that even those pictures wouldn't say a thing.
 Quoting: Gerard 334168

Photos would prove a lot...but you've never offered any. And funny how the Earth is supposedly wobbling, but you've done nothing to document it since you first noticed it. I suggested you contact a local astronomy club and view the night sky with them. This would allow you to document your "discovery" and provide you with witnesses. And yet, you refuse to do so. And you can't explain why a video shot in July showing the movement of the stars through the night sky shows no wobble. I guess they say more than you can counter with.
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If i had pictures of that evening, where the moon was first in the wrong postion and then in the right i would have shown them.
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In fact, this sentence PROVES conclusively that you are indeed an IDIOT!

Thanks for that confirmation.

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If i had pictures of that evening, where the moon was first in the wrong postion and then in the right i would have shown them.


In fact, this sentence PROVES conclusively that you are indeed an IDIOT!

Thanks for that confirmation.

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He obviously has no idea what the ramifications of a wobbling earth would be. When you know nothing about real science, it's easy to believe in fairy tales.
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If i had pictures of that evening, where the moon was first in the wrong postion and then in the right i would have shown them.


In fact, this sentence PROVES conclusively that you are indeed an IDIOT!

Thanks for that confirmation.

:5:


He obviously has no idea what the ramifications of a wobbling earth would be. When you know nothing about real science, it's easy to believe in fairy tales.
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I am amazed and a little disturbed that people are allowed to reach adulthood with such a woefully inadequate grasp of basic physics. It scares me a bit that these people are allowed to do things like drive cars and stuff when they are mentally little better than young kids.
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Name calling is so funny. Not. But seems that this is one the new tacticts of some of the debunkers now.

Sorry to say, but name calling in my opinion shows a sign of weakness. It's like saying, i am way smarter then this or that person.

Hence you don't even know me, so to say i am an idiot is far fetched.

Enough said

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Name calling is so funny. Not. But seems that this is one the new tacticts of some of the debunkers now.

Sorry to say, but name calling in my opinion shows a sign of weakness. It's like saying, i am way smarter then this or that person.

Hence you don't even know me, so to say i am an idiot is far fetched.

Enough said

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 Quoting: Gerard 334168


We are judging you by the quality of your ideas - which are completely wrong. Therefore you can't be very smart.

You don't seem to be very literate either, so that marks you out as a bit stupid too. The evidence against you stacks up.

Belief in Planet X obviously puts you into the very lowest levels of human intelligence.
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Name calling is so funny. Not. But seems that this is one the new tacticts of some of the debunkers now.

Sorry to say, but name calling in my opinion shows a sign of weakness. It's like saying, i am way smarter then this or that person.

Hence you don't even know me, so to say i am an idiot is far fetched.

Enough said

Gerard
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 Quoting: Gerard 334168


Explain how Earth can wobble without there being huge cataclysmic upheavals. Explain the forces involved.
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Here we go again, CB i made that page to proof a point.
If i had pictures of that evening, where the moon was first in the wrong postion and then in the right i would have shown them. But i haven't. But i guess that even those pictures wouldn't say a thing.

Photos would prove a lot...but you've never offered any. And funny how the Earth is supposedly wobbling, but you've done nothing to document it since you first noticed it. I suggested you contact a local astronomy club and view the night sky with them. This would allow you to document your "discovery" and provide you with witnesses. And yet, you refuse to do so. And you can't explain why a video shot in July showing the movement of the stars through the night sky shows no wobble. I guess they say more than you can counter with.
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Lots of time on your hands eh CB??

Still haven't landed a "cover" day job???
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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So the reason that i take this serious doesn't make me smart. Come on.

And my native tongue is Dutch. So saying that i am not that literate is prejudice.

Then again some of the debunkers use a new tactic, yelling, screaming and name calling.
A sign of weakness in my opinion.
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I used my brain, my eyes and my intution. And i don't say that science has no meaning. But my point is that science can't explain everything. Unlike what some would say over here. Those like CB, Hap and the like.

I had expierences, noticed ufos. Had visions and dreams.
And i read other pages and sites that describe about the same thing as Nancy describes, like a red cross in the sky when the time is there.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Translation: You have your head in the sand. You have absolutely no evidence to back up your claims and yet, you expect others to just "take your word for it." Hard to do when you can easily be proven wrong. Visions and dreams prove nothing. Intuition does not make "Planet X" real.

Bye bye now.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

If it's real, it's real. If it's not, it's not.

No issues.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Name calling is so funny. Not. But seems that this is one the new tacticts of some of the debunkers now.
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Isn't calling us "debunkers" part of that name calling? Or claiming we had our "heads in the sand?" Or does your hypocrisy know no bounds? Nancy and her followers have been part of that name calling from the very beginning. Other names include shills, agents and others.

Sorry to say, but name calling in my opinion shows a sign of weakness. It's like saying, i am way smarter then this or that person.
 Quoting: Gerard 334168

Agreed. And that's one of the reasons I don't believe Nancy. When I asked her questions back in 2003, she accused me of being some "operative" and told me to go drown in the pole shift....that never happened.
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Lots of time on your hands eh CB??

Still haven't landed a "cover" day job???
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Ah, you got Gerard's page I see.

Still haven't found a "cover" day job?

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