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So, what's new in the world of Nancy's faithful and those who know better?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


Well, she seemed to promise that Java would be 80 feet underwater by now -- it's not.

She also said the straits of Gibraltar would be 125 miles wider by now -- they're not.

So, essentially, she's batting about the same as ever. But she has iron control of her Ning now, so it doesn't get discussed.

As for some others, Postman stops by every now and again after the GLP shakeup, CB is here fighting the good fight, Aussie and Gazmick keep it real, Menow doggedly pointing out the obvious, TLR has the power but uses it responsibly, Zetamax still plays the fool, Volar's reading comprehension has actually DEcreased, and 78/68 and IDW appear to have disappeared altogether...

I am certain to be forgetting a ton of people, but there you go...
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I'm still here but busy with life :)
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It's not about logic or critical examination of evidence no matter how many times Nancy has said: "Look for yourself". It's about paranoid belief in conspiracy and certain other preconceived notions.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


There's one thing funny about Nancy right there - she tells people to look after leading them to believe that what they'll see is unnatural...when it isn't. She tries to get people to believe that the sun setting in the NW sky during the summer is unusual when, in fact, it happens EVERY year. She also keeps claiming that "debunkers" are telling people NOT to look when the exact opposite is true.
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So, what quality is it, in all of us, that makes us fall for those Nancy-like thoughts and cults?

I do remember Festinger's book 'When Prophecy Fails' though it has been years since I read it. I just wonder about the mechanism in the brain that is 'worked' by similar leaders. Why do some ideas catch on, regardless of outlandishness? Why do some, which seem nearly identical fail so badly? For every Nancy, there's got to be some that fail even harder, and some that balloon up into full-on religions, like some of the schisms in other faiths. What quality is it that allows one set of ideas to flourish, and another to die? It certainly does not seem to be the factual content of the idea, nor the predictive qualities of the leaders (or Lieders).

I'm not expressing what I am trying to get at very well, but perhaps discussing it will improve my ability to convey it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


The desire to feel "special" is part of it. Also, the desire to blame our problems or life situation on others.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


I agree that is certainly a part of it. I just wonder how the desire to feel special can be *so* deep seated, that self destruction becomes preferable to letting go of that feeling... ala Jonestown, Heaven's Gate, among others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


As many here know I am writing a book on the subject. Simply put; cult leaders have a "Napoleon" complex, while followers wish to be part of something "special".

The expansion of the internet has given these people a wider range and reach. Look at photos of the "abducted by UFO's" pre internet, desperately lonely people seeking attention, now consider the number of devoted followers Nancy had before the 2003 failure, without the internet Nancy would have been lucky to suck in a dozen people.

Melfy first claimed to be a "contactee" as well as a survivor of 9/11, the 9/11 claim was proven false and Nancy would not have others usurp her position at the top of the tree. As we know Nancy claims to have an implant from the "Zetas" to enable her "chats" to the zetas, Melfy did not claim the same implant status.
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Ohh... and of course, Nancy had them believing Hap is the enemy and it would be a trick. By the way, where is Hap these days?
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


I'm here...checking in every once in a while. I decided that I simply don't have time to waste on those who refuse to learn. I'll be checking in as the end of the year approaches to see the usual suspects squirm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


That's wild. I only posted about you an hour or so ago. "Luser" has gone away, and so has Andrew it seems, though he is at Nancy's ning.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


And Freestore?
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It's not about logic or critical examination of evidence no matter how many times Nancy has said: "Look for yourself". It's about paranoid belief in conspiracy and certain other preconceived notions.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


There's one thing funny about Nancy right there - she tells people to look after leading them to believe that what they'll see is unnatural...when it isn't. She tries to get people to believe that the sun setting in the NW sky during the summer is unusual when, in fact, it happens EVERY year. She also keeps claiming that "debunkers" are telling people NOT to look when the exact opposite is true.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Yes. Nancy told that exact lie about me, while on the live chat. What she does is act as if she honestly wants people to look for themselves, but makes it clear what they are GOING to see if they are honest. Anybody who says they didn't see what she told them they would see is called a liar or debunker and dismissed trom the umbrella of her approval. Nancy has always been the queen of misrepresentation of facts.
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So, what's new in the world of Nancy's faithful and those who know better?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


Well, she seemed to promise that Java would be 80 feet underwater by now -- it's not.

She also said the straits of Gibraltar would be 125 miles wider by now -- they're not.

So, essentially, she's batting about the same as ever. But she has iron control of her Ning now, so it doesn't get discussed.

As for some others, Postman stops by every now and again after the GLP shakeup, CB is here fighting the good fight, Aussie and Gazmick keep it real, Menow doggedly pointing out the obvious, TLR has the power but uses it responsibly, Zetamax still plays the fool, Volar's reading comprehension has actually DEcreased, and 78/68 and IDW appear to have disappeared altogether...

I am certain to be forgetting a ton of people, but there you go...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I'm still here but busy with life :)
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


Hey... good to see you!
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Ohh... and of course, Nancy had them believing Hap is the enemy and it would be a trick. By the way, where is Hap these days?
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


I'm here...checking in every once in a while. I decided that I simply don't have time to waste on those who refuse to learn. I'll be checking in as the end of the year approaches to see the usual suspects squirm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


That's wild. I only posted about you an hour or so ago. "Luser" has gone away, and so has Andrew it seems, though he is at Nancy's ning.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


And Freestore?
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


He is occaisionally seen on other threads, but never here anymore.
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So, what quality is it, in all of us, that makes us fall for those Nancy-like thoughts and cults?

I do remember Festinger's book 'When Prophecy Fails' though it has been years since I read it. I just wonder about the mechanism in the brain that is 'worked' by similar leaders. Why do some ideas catch on, regardless of outlandishness? Why do some, which seem nearly identical fail so badly? For every Nancy, there's got to be some that fail even harder, and some that balloon up into full-on religions, like some of the schisms in other faiths. What quality is it that allows one set of ideas to flourish, and another to die? It certainly does not seem to be the factual content of the idea, nor the predictive qualities of the leaders (or Lieders).

I'm not expressing what I am trying to get at very well, but perhaps discussing it will improve my ability to convey it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


The desire to feel "special" is part of it. Also, the desire to blame our problems or life situation on others.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


I agree that is certainly a part of it. I just wonder how the desire to feel special can be *so* deep seated, that self destruction becomes preferable to letting go of that feeling... ala Jonestown, Heaven's Gate, among others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


As many here know I am writing a book on the subject. Simply put; cult leaders have a "Napoleon" complex, while followers wish to be part of something "special".

The expansion of the internet has given these people a wider range and reach. Look at photos of the "abducted by UFO's" pre internet, desperately lonely people seeking attention, now consider the number of devoted followers Nancy had before the 2003 failure, without the internet Nancy would have been lucky to suck in a dozen people.

Melfy first claimed to be a "contactee" as well as a survivor of 9/11, the 9/11 claim was proven false and Nancy would not have others usurp her position at the top of the tree. As we know Nancy claims to have an implant from the "Zetas" to enable her "chats" to the zetas, Melfy did not claim the same implant status.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


I will be quite interested in your book when it comes out. I want a signed copy. :)
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Hey guys...Hap here. Just checking back to see if any of the zetatards have come around, or if they are still delusional...waiting on their imaginary fairy-tale planet ex to show up. That Ruth's Chris steak from Max is getting closer by the day!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


Sadly enough, Hap, it appears to be an impossible task for most diehard zetaculties to "smell the coffee" and break away from the "delusion" that has consumed some of them for years now.

The zetaculties wear their "FAIL" after "FAIL" episodes like a badge of doomsday honour..... Fail_plus

In respect of the Melfster, I don't have too many positives to convey about the "clown", but I do sense that he will eventually buy you that "steak" when the "writing is on the wall" for him finally in 2012.

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And Freestore?
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Thankfully we don't have to be subjected to the Old Timer's foolishness and trolling anymore....oh BLISS!!

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Good to see some old faces pop in!!!

All we need is for the postal worker to make one of his rare appearances and we'll have almost everyone from the old gang here

(LOL- you have a 10 yr class reunion for school- what we need is a 1000 page debunker reunion)
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In respect of the Melfster, I don't have too many positives to convey about the "clown", but I do sense that he will eventually buy you that "steak" when the "writing is on the wall" for him finally in 2012.

 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


I think you are overly optimistic. We have all seen how "it" is happy to lurch from one doomtard to the next. Come 2012, "it" will simply find a new doomtard to cling on to.
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In respect of the Melfster, I don't have too many positives to convey about the "clown", but I do sense that he will eventually buy you that "steak" when the "writing is on the wall" for him finally in 2012.

 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


I think you are overly optimistic. We have all seen how "it" is happy to lurch from one doomtard to the next. Come 2012, "it" will simply find a new doomtard to cling on to.
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Yes I know.....I suppose we shall eventually find out. But it would be nice if for once, during Melfy's GLP roleplaying dramas, that he would follow through with at least this promise to Hap. You're right though; Melfy has shown a definite trait for reneging on promises made and then carrying on as if those promises are simply a "joke" in his mind and he quickly moves on to the next demented rant
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Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 108)
From page 108 of our thread.....

My initial reaction, after the non-appearance of planet X, the failure of all the May 2003 predictions and recognizing the fallacy of Nancy Leider and her alledged "Zetas", can

best be described as "HOW COULD I BE SO STUPID".

At present, I do not support the continuing Zetatalk storyline, and find that it has left reality and entered the realm of imagination.
Since 2003, it can best be described as a fantasy, in it's presented information.
 Quoting: J.William Dell


after 2003 i was also almost ready to go into thinking like that. but i decided "not so fast", not to be so quick with conclusions. and now i dont regret.

i, rather think, "how i could be so stupid to possibly reject it all" in a blink of an eye.

and i believe it has not happened YET. its like two parallel timelines: with that of ZetaTalk is ahead of the real time one. and it is deliberate, smart maneuver - to warn, to alert the pupulace.

i remain in the boat with Nancy, Zetas and other folks

watching the signs and preparing.

hf
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"its like two parallel timelines: with that of ZetaTalk is ahead of the real time one."..... putin Geez Andyboy sometimes you are beyond help lol4me!!!!!!
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Just to position the nail:

Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
959 days gone, 187 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
Nancy backpedalled first on July4th, 2009. ("Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003. Could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??") -"SOZT This is within the realm of possibility. EOZT"
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)
Nancy backpedalled second at July 18, 2009." As we have stated repeatedly, almost weekly, we will give NO indication of a timeline. "
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 18 (Page 2)
Discussionthread about previous link ;-)
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Nancy backpedalled third at August 22, 2009. "NO time frame details can be relayed, period. But…... " (p 3), (White lie again) Nancytalk "this was admitted as entirely plausible in a recent chat. Check the chat archives", "Sattelite move whithin atmosphere" (somewhere),
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 22 (Page 3)
Nancy backpedalled fourt at 5th Spt 09, SOZT ….It is still theoretically possible for a passage to cause nothing more than high tides and strong earthquakes…." EOZT, p3
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 5 (Page 5)
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Just to position the nail:

Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
959 days gone, 187 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
Nancy backpedalled first on July4th, 2009. ("Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003. Could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??") -"SOZT This is within the realm of possibility. EOZT"
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)
Nancy backpedalled second at July 18, 2009." As we have stated repeatedly, almost weekly, we will give NO indication of a timeline. "
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 18 (Page 2)
Discussionthread about previous link ;-)
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Nancy backpedalled third at August 22, 2009. "NO time frame details can be relayed, period. But…... " (p 3), (White lie again) Nancytalk "this was admitted as entirely plausible in a recent chat. Check the chat archives", "Sattelite move whithin atmosphere" (somewhere),
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 22 (Page 3)
Nancy backpedalled fourt at 5th Spt 09, SOZT ….It is still theoretically possible for a passage to cause nothing more than high tides and strong earthquakes…." EOZT, p3
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 5 (Page 5)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


Just a reminder ... it's ****NOT**** 2012 ... YET!

I am the Captain of my ship, and I will go down with it if need be.
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As many here know I am writing a book on the subject. Simply put; cult leaders have a "Napoleon" complex, while followers wish to be part of something "special".

The expansion of the internet has given these people a wider range and reach. Look at photos of the "abducted by UFO's" pre internet, desperately lonely people seeking attention, now consider the number of devoted followers Nancy had before the 2003 failure, without the internet Nancy would have been lucky to suck in a dozen people.

Melfy first claimed to be a "contactee" as well as a survivor of 9/11, the 9/11 claim was proven false and Nancy would not have others usurp her position at the top of the tree. As we know Nancy claims to have an implant from the "Zetas" to enable her "chats" to the zetas, Melfy did not claim the same implant status.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


I just watched a program on History HD discussing cults. It was very interesting. Most followers end up in a cult because they're in a transitional state at the time and feel "lost." Maybe they're between relationships, between jobs...a number of reasons. They're somewhat vulnerable. In the case of Charles Manson, he would find teen female runaways. He would simply state the obvious such as, "I see your problem - you're having issues with your parents." But the "victim" would feel like this guy "really gets them" and understands. While most doomsday cults are "harmless" (meaning not violent and simply waiting for the end), there are many that have the twisted belief that it's their responsibility to START Armageddon. In Charles Manson's case...he thought the Beatles were speaking directly to him through the song Helter Skelter and that he was supposed to bring on the "end of the world" and then rise as the new leader in the aftermath...perhaps the only thing that he and Nancy share in common. While Nancy is rather tame, she still sees herself as some "chosen one" who will lead her followers in to a new era once the "pole shift" has happened.
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Yes. Nancy told that exact lie about me, while on the live chat. What she does is act as if she honestly wants people to look for themselves, but makes it clear what they are GOING to see if they are honest. Anybody who says they didn't see what she told them they would see is called a liar or debunker and dismissed trom the umbrella of her approval. Nancy has always been the queen of misrepresentation of facts.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


Yep, she tells them about stuff that's been happening for a very long time but that most people simply don't think about or notice. Schools teach that, basically, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west...which it does. They also teach that the sun transits north and south throughout the year. But a lot of people don't pay attention to how far north or south the sun moves during Earth's orbit around it. So, all Nancy (or any other doomsayer) has to do is say - "The sun is too far north for this time of year." Someone hears about it, looks and sees that, indeed, the sun is north of dead west. Having never thought about it before or really noticed, they suddenly think Nancy is right when all they've done is observe something that's been going on for a long time. As we know, the same thing happens with the moon...it too transitions the sky just like the sun. The problem here is that some people (i.e. Freestore) believe that the moon transitions the sky EXACTLY like the sun...wherever the sun rises and sets on a particular day, that's where the moon will rise and set. They fail to realize that the moon orbits the Earth in roughly 28 days so this transition occurs over the course of a month - each and every month. Again, a lot of people know the moon is there...but they don't pay attention to what it does since they only occasionally glance at it. So, when someone tells them it isn't right, they look and think, "Wow, that does look weird."
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Just a reminder ... it's ****NOT**** 2012 ... YET!

I am the Captain of my ship, and I will go down with it if need be.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Getting pretty damn close and there's been no sign of "Planet X."
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Just to position the nail:

Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
959 days gone, 187 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
Nancy backpedalled first on July4th, 2009. ("Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003. Could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??") -"SOZT This is within the realm of possibility. EOZT"
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)
Nancy backpedalled second at July 18, 2009." As we have stated repeatedly, almost weekly, we will give NO indication of a timeline. "
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 18 (Page 2)
Discussionthread about previous link ;-)
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Nancy backpedalled third at August 22, 2009. "NO time frame details can be relayed, period. But…... " (p 3), (White lie again) Nancytalk "this was admitted as entirely plausible in a recent chat. Check the chat archives", "Sattelite move whithin atmosphere" (somewhere),
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 22 (Page 3)
Nancy backpedalled fourt at 5th Spt 09, SOZT ….It is still theoretically possible for a passage to cause nothing more than high tides and strong earthquakes…." EOZT, p3
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 5 (Page 5)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


Just a reminder ... it's ****NOT**** 2012 ... YET!

I am the Captain of my ship, and I will go down with it if need be.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Nothing else did i point out.

If you would have endured the exetion of reading, then you would have known it is still 187 days until you have to go down with your ship.

Not that there is any doubt about you have to - but you have a reprieve.
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Just a reminder ... it's ****NOT**** 2012 ... YET!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Perhaps not, but your nibiru is gonna get one hell of a speeding ticket if it wants to get here on time.

I am the Captain of my ship, and I will go down with it if need be.
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You are not the captain of the ship, but you will sink with it.
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As many here know I am writing a book on the subject. Simply put; cult leaders have a "Napoleon" complex, while followers wish to be part of something "special".

The expansion of the internet has given these people a wider range and reach. Look at photos of the "abducted by UFO's" pre internet, desperately lonely people seeking attention, now consider the number of devoted followers Nancy had before the 2003 failure, without the internet Nancy would have been lucky to suck in a dozen people.

Melfy first claimed to be a "contactee" as well as a survivor of 9/11, the 9/11 claim was proven false and Nancy would not have others usurp her position at the top of the tree. As we know Nancy claims to have an implant from the "Zetas" to enable her "chats" to the zetas, Melfy did not claim the same implant status.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


I just watched a program on History HD discussing cults. It was very interesting. Most followers end up in a cult because they're in a transitional state at the time and feel "lost." Maybe they're between relationships, between jobs...a number of reasons. They're somewhat vulnerable. In the case of Charles Manson, he would find teen female runaways. He would simply state the obvious such as, "I see your problem - you're having issues with your parents." But the "victim" would feel like this guy "really gets them" and understands. While most doomsday cults are "harmless" (meaning not violent and simply waiting for the end), there are many that have the twisted belief that it's their responsibility to START Armageddon. In Charles Manson's case...he thought the Beatles were speaking directly to him through the song Helter Skelter and that he was supposed to bring on the "end of the world" and then rise as the new leader in the aftermath...perhaps the only thing that he and Nancy share in common. While Nancy is rather tame, she still sees herself as some "chosen one" who will lead her followers in to a new era once the "pole shift" has happened.
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I am the Captain of my ship, and I will go down with it if need be.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You are not the captain of the ship, but you will sink with it.
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That's why this is so fitting:

sinking
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
You're not helping your chances of getting admitted to an aftertime STO Human-Hybrid community!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Gee, gosh and darn it. I guess that's just a chance I'll have to take. You needn't worry yourself over it.
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Just a reminder ... it's ****NOT**** 2012 ... YET!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Perhaps not, but your nibiru is gonna get one hell of a speeding ticket if it wants to get here on time.

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The imaginary planet ex is supposed to be the size of Neptune. We can easily see Neptune, but where is px? If it's still beyond the orbit of Neptune so that it's far enough that it can't easily be seen, there is no possible way that it could get here by October (remember Nancy said that it would be "undeniable" in our skies "months" before the "pole shift" which is to occur BEFORE 2012). In order for it to appear before October, it would have to be travelling at faster than the escape velocity of the sun, which means that it couldn't possibly be in a periodic orbit, as the zetatards claim it is.

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But "Planet X" is special...it has the ability to travel at light speed...or so Nancy claims. I wonder how something so massive is able to accelerate to light speed in the first place. The gravitational pull of the sun certainly isn't enough. Of course, even if it could travel at light speed, that would mean whatever coordinates Nancy gave for the location of "Planet X" would be wrong because by the time the light from "Planet X" reached Earth for us to see it..."Planet X" would be in an entirely new location.
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Just a reminder ... it's ****NOT**** 2012 ... YET!

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Doesn't matter Max. Time is up for you and your little fairy tale. What possible scenario could save your story now?
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Yes. Nancy told that exact lie about me, while on the live chat. What she does is act as if she honestly wants people to look for themselves, but makes it clear what they are GOING to see if they are honest. Anybody who says they didn't see what she told them they would see is called a liar or debunker and dismissed trom the umbrella of her approval. Nancy has always been the queen of misrepresentation of facts.
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Yep, she tells them about stuff that's been happening for a very long time but that most people simply don't think about or notice. Schools teach that, basically, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west...which it does. They also teach that the sun transits north and south throughout the year. But a lot of people don't pay attention to how far north or south the sun moves during Earth's orbit around it. So, all Nancy (or any other doomsayer) has to do is say - "The sun is too far north for this time of year." Someone hears about it, looks and sees that, indeed, the sun is north of dead west. Having never thought about it before or really noticed, they suddenly think Nancy is right when all they've done is observe something that's been going on for a long time. As we know, the same thing happens with the moon...it too transitions the sky just like the sun. The problem here is that some people (i.e. Freestore) believe that the moon transitions the sky EXACTLY like the sun...wherever the sun rises and sets on a particular day, that's where the moon will rise and set. They fail to realize that the moon orbits the Earth in roughly 28 days so this transition occurs over the course of a month - each and every month. Again, a lot of people know the moon is there...but they don't pay attention to what it does since they only occasionally glance at it. So, when someone tells them it isn't right, they look and think, "Wow, that does look weird."
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Yeah, Nancy's "Moon-tilt" thing is a good example. People have just never paid attention to something which is entirely normal. That nonsense is still going on at Youtube where anyone explaining the truth can be blocked and deleted.
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
But "Planet X" is special...it has the ability to travel at light speed...or so Nancy claims. ..
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The only thing travelling at light speed is nelles and melfies thoughts of jumping from one bullshit to the next.
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Yeah, Nancy's "Moon-tilt" thing is a good example. People have just never paid attention to something which is entirely normal. That nonsense is still going on at Youtube where anyone explaining the truth can be blocked and deleted.
 Quoting: Menow 1445074


The "moon tilt" episode sadly indicates just how completely detached from simple observation of the natural motions of sky most folks are. They don't even realize that we're observing from a rotating sphere which should immediately cause them to know that this will cause everything we observe to rotate, but it doesn't occur to them. Then when they see a constellation appear to "flip" as it crosses the sky, Nancy can make them think that this is somehow not normal. Nancy's whole scheme is based on playing on the vast ignorance of basic observational astronomy of the general public.

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