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1000 pages.

Max wrong again.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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WOO HOO!!!!

(pats poor ZetaMax on the head)
It's that time- time to break out the partyhats and streamers!!!

1000 pages, 2 years and 2 months exactly since TLR started this thread, to provide refuge from the nancy banhammer.
(and many thanks should go to the semi MIA Dr Postman, for the multipule unbannings as well)

I still believe that it was this thread that in the end, forced the departure of nancy to the ning- she could (and did) erase many of her more glaring mistakes from her own threads, only to have them pop up restored in all their `glory' in full again here, and failing to be able to ban members who only posted here in the relative safety of the debunkers thread drove her up the wall

1000 pages of 100% accurate `Zeta's wrong AGAIN'

(raises glass)

To the Debunkers!!!
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Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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tlr1000d
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<tooting horns>

<falling confetti>

<screams of joy>

banana2
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


angryface
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


<sigh>

Upon further thinking, it would have been apropos if you would have ushered in the one thousandenth page. Poster boy and all that....
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


i tried ... and ****FAILED****
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


tlr333
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YIPPEE!!!!!!
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tlr1000e
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1000 pages.

Max wrong again.
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tlr1000g
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BINGO!
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tlr151 ........tlr1000a
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I fail

putin
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YEP - you DO!!!

atomic_fai
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tlr1000c ......... tlr27tlr27tlr27tlr27
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 Quoting: The Lone Ranger



WOOHOO!!!

Absolute Classic!!!
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oh dear

and it's BANE him
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I stand corrected! ;-)
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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i tried ... and ****FAILED****
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Shocker...

As a consolation prize (not to mention an interesting social experiment), I will allow you to choose your own punishment.

Take some time…choose wisely and let us know what you come up with.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


You have the floor, Setheory.....

....we have the tlrBan Power!!


alert_2 ...awaiting TEST RESULTS!!

Mexcited
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I just sent me sister a link to LTR's moofie!!!
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I just sent me sister a link to LTR's moofie!!!
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Mexcited
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I think ZM's punishment should be to put away the Role-Playing character for ten pages, and post as himself -- and be perfectly honest and forthright about exactly what he believes and what he doesn't. He should have to stop playing the contrarian. He should articulate his true positions, rather than just attemt to stir things up.

Of course, he might be attempting to do just that -- but I have *serious* doubts that is the case.

Or, perhaps he should be forced to play the debunker role DIRECTLY to Nancy, over on her Ning for a month -- or at least until all his possible accounts are banned from the Ning, whichever comes first.
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>> I think ZM's punishment should be to put away the Role-Playing character for ten pages, and post as himself -- and be perfectly honest and forthright about exactly what he believes and what he doesn't.

OK - I will agree to this. For the next ten pages I will answer ALL questions as honestly as I can - with one exception. I will not and will continue to not, share any information publicly that will reveal my real identity. In all honesty, the majority of my posts have been for "fun" - to blow off steam, and allow for an outlet of my daily frustrations with the world. I laughed as much if not more than any of you. But in a world where being a "conspiracy theorist" can cost your job, your LIVLIHOOD, I need to preserve my privacy for as long as I can, and to the extent that I can. There is no social or economic stigma attached to being a "debunker", but LOTS of it for being a "woo-woo". Yea I'm playing with "fire" - but that's what makes this FUN for me - a form of "thrill-seeking" if you will.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Wow -- I appreciate your liking my 'punishment,' such as it is.

Did you, at any time, really believe the Earth was halted, as Nancy Lieder claimed? And do you now?
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Alas -- I appear to be one of the unmentioned.

Ah, well.
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I'm sure he missed a few others as well, but no matter- we are ALL included simply as `The Debunkers' and what more honourable title can there be???
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Alas -- I appear to be one of the unmentioned.

Ah, well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

I join in.
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Just as an aside- the entire thread is 806 MB, and my local copy of it contains 51823 files in 2928 folders as of just before this post....

:-O
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 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Alas -- I appear to be one of the unmentioned.

Ah, well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444




My apologies to you 74444. I knew that I would stuff it up somewhere between my tired brain and the keyboard lol. Admittedly the original vid was a rush job, in the wee hours NZ time, in between my contracting work schedule and sleep etc. I have corrected the Historical Record..... Loneranger
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Happy 1,000 pages! DrP sends his regards.
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OK - I will agree to this. For the next ten pages I will answer ALL questions as honestly as I can - with one exception. I will not and will continue to not, share any information publicly that will reveal my real identity. In all honesty, the majority of my posts have been for "fun" - to blow off steam, and allow for an outlet of my daily frustrations with the world.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I think most of us can understand your desire for anonymity.

I have a question. What doom scenario do you find to be the most likely and what evidence do you have to support its likelihood?
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


>> What doom scenario do you find to be the most likely and what evidence do you have to support its likelihood?

The most "likely" doom scenario is one that is not astronomical in nature, but indeed "man"-made. And no, it's not manmade "Global Warming" or "Climate Change", but rather "Scientific Dictatorship". The installation of a global Orwellian 1984 style global prison society where all notion of individual "freedom" and "self-determination" is completely extinguished. This planet is advancing toward that reality at a breathtaking speed, and so far, I see nothing that can stop it.

It is why I actually kind of "hoped" for DOOM - because global doom is indeed one thing that can shipwreck "global domination" by the financial elite/breakaway civilization hell bent on making their 1984 nightmare for the common man, a "true" reality.

Without some kind of external intervention, cosmic catastrophie or suidical misstep on the part of the power-mad globalists, mankind collectively faces a VERY grim future.

Tell me I'm wrong, and give me some evidence to the contrary that can fill me with "hope" rather than with anxiety.
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i tried ... and ****FAILED****
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Shocker...

As a consolation prize (not to mention an interesting social experiment), I will allow you to choose your own punishment.

Take some time…choose wisely and let us know what you come up with.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


You have the floor, Setheory.....

 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Thanks TLR and congrats on the 1000 pg mark. (LOLed at the vid as well)

I'll pass on the ban hammer, as I only believe in banning for "over the top" offenses. If we banned everyone who held unfounded beliefs or who were suspected of trolling, GLP would be a lifeless forum.

<waits for crowd to quiet...stands up...points thumb to sky>
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i tried ... and ****FAILED****
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Shocker...

As a consolation prize (not to mention an interesting social experiment), I will allow you to choose your own punishment.

Take some time…choose wisely and let us know what you come up with.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


You have the floor, Setheory.....

 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Thanks TLR and congrats on the 1000 pg mark. (LOLed at the vid as well)

I'll pass on the ban hammer, as I only believe in banning for "over the top" offenses. If we banned everyone who held unfounded beliefs or who were suspected of trolling, GLP would be a lifeless forum.

<waits for crowd to quiet...stands up...points thumb to sky>
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


When Trinity implements his "karma" system, I'll be sure to give you some kudos.
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but rather "Scientific Dictatorship".

Since you are answering `honestly' ZetaMax

1:what parts of science do you find causing a `dictatorship' and how?
2:what/how do you think they are doing so, and what would you do in their place?

please feel free to take your time in replying, as this is for me a unique opportunity to have one of the opposite side undertake to answer truthfully, and I would like the insight into your mindset.

Please notice I haven't and will in future refrain from derogatory name calling if you will indeed answer the questions

Thank you in anticipation

aussie 763624
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but rather "Scientific Dictatorship".

Since you are answering `honestly' ZetaMax

1:what parts of science do you find causing a `dictatorship' and how?
2:what/how do you think they are doing so, and what would you do in their place?

please feel free to take your time in replying, as this is for me a unique opportunity to have one of the opposite side undertake to answer truthfully, and I would like the insight into your mindset.

Please notice I haven't and will in future refrain from derogatory name calling if you will indeed answer the questions

Thank you in anticipation

aussie 763624
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


1: Science is not "causing" a dictatorship, but rather ambitious and powerful personages are USING advanced science in an attempt to build a digital/mechanical grid of CONTROL that is immune to any and all attempts of escape and/or overthrow.

For instance: Cameras everywhere with computers (not humans) analyzing visual and sound patterns for specific behaviors and keywords. Military drones of all kinds - land, sea and air. Full spectrum surveillance along with alogorithms so advanced, they predict human behavior with over 90% accuracy.

Like all things, technology itself is neutral - but becomes an instrument of liberation or oppression in line with the intent of those who CONTROL the technology.

Those who control this vast network of high tech wonders are HIDDEN behind classified walls, impenetrable even by Congress and even the President himself. They are not auditable, answer only to themselves (that we know of), and currently cannot be held accountable for anything. You can't prosecute and discipline those you can't even IDENTIFY.

Yet we are somehow supposed to "trust" these folks, not feel threatened by them in any way, in spite of our profound lack of ability to MONITOR them in ANY way - while they themselves possess the accelerating ability to monitor US in such profound ways that it almost staggers the mind, tamper with our health and food supply, our environment, our common currency, even our laws?

None of this "concerns" you?

2: What would I do in their place? ELIMINATE THE HIERARCHICAL COMPARTMENTALIZATION. Notice I didn't say "secrecy" - because some secrecy is always necessary. But what is being built now is a control grid that is completely and utterly controlled from the very tip of the pyramid - with **NO** veto capacity from the remainder of the structure WHATSOVER. Such a structure is anathema to ANY notion of self-determination. Such a system ultimately becomes DO or DIE - or even worse DO or YOU, YOUR FAMILY and EVEN MORE die.

Who can resist such tyranny? Especially when the tyrants remain secret and safely esconced behind dozens of layers of hierarchical compartmentalization?

I'm supposed to fear a guy with explosives strapped to his chest MORE than this?

Do YOU?

I suppose you could say that you continue to have "free will" because you can "always" choose death - even it means the accompanying death of many others.

But somehow I think they're working HARD to remove that "option" someday as well.

The ultimate slavery - where even death itself is not an option.

Of course there is no incentive for them to eliminate the compartmentalization, because they BELIEVE without question that achieving such control will free them and their descendants FOREVER from any worry or fear of ever losing their power. And they also believe that living without ABSOLUTE POWER over others - is a terrible way to live.

I beg to differ ...

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1: Science is not "causing" a dictatorship, but rather ambitious and powerful personages are USING advanced science in an attempt to build a digital/mechanical grid of CONTROL that is immune to any and all attempts of escape and/or overthrow.

For instance: Cameras everywhere with computers (not humans) analyzing visual and sound patterns for specific behaviors and keywords. Military drones of all kinds - land, sea and air. Full spectrum surveillance along with alogorithms so advanced, they predict human behavior with over 90% accuracy.

Like all things, technology itself is neutral - but becomes an instrument of liberation or oppression in line with the intent of those who CONTROL the technology.

Those who control this vast network of high tech wonders are HIDDEN behind classified walls, impenetrable even by Congress and even the President himself. They are not auditable, answer only to themselves (that we know of), and currently cannot be held accountable for anything. You can't prosecute and discipline those you can't even IDENTIFY.

Yet we are somehow supposed to "trust" these folks, not feel threatened by them in any way, in spite of our profound lack of ability to MONITOR them in ANY way - while they themselves possess the accelerating ability to monitor US in such profound ways that it almost staggers the mind, tamper with our health and food supply, our environment, our common currency, even our laws?

None of this "concerns" you?

2: What would I do in their place? ELIMINATE THE HIERARCHICAL COMPARTMENTALIZATION. Notice I didn't say "secrecy" - because some secrecy is always necessary. But what is being built now is a control grid that is completely and utterly controlled from the very tip of the pyramid - with **NO** veto capacity from the remainder of the structure WHATSOVER. Such a structure is anathema to ANY notion of self-determination. Such a system ultimately becomes DO or DIE - or even worse DO or YOU, YOUR FAMILY and EVEN MORE die.

Who can resist such tyranny? Especially when the tyrants remain secret and safely esconced behind dozens of layers of hierarchical compartmentalization?

I'm supposed to fear a guy with explosives strapped to his chest MORE than this?

Do YOU?

I suppose you could say that you continue to have "free will" because you can "always" choose death - even it means the accompanying death of many others.

But somehow I think they're working HARD to remove that "option" someday as well.

The ultimate slavery - where even death itself is not an option.

Of course there is no incentive for them to eliminate the compartmentalization, because they BELIEVE without question that achieving such control will free them and their descendants FOREVER from any worry or fear of ever losing their power. And they also believe that living without ABSOLUTE POWER over others - is a terrible way to live.

I beg to differ ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I agree with a small portion of this post. I disagree with a larger portion and find most of it to be exaggerated generalizations. That being said, I still find your fears of a nefarious cabal of untouchable civil servants rather interesting. You are a difficult “nut” to crack.

spock

<laughing>

I actually get the impression you are being honest and I have no idea how to feel about that.
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1: Science is not "causing" a dictatorship, but rather ambitious and powerful personages are USING advanced science in an attempt to build a digital/mechanical grid of CONTROL that is immune to any and all attempts of escape and/or overthrow.

For instance: Cameras everywhere with computers (not humans) analyzing visual and sound patterns for specific behaviors and keywords. Military drones of all kinds - land, sea and air. Full spectrum surveillance along with alogorithms so advanced, they predict human behavior with over 90% accuracy.

Like all things, technology itself is neutral - but becomes an instrument of liberation or oppression in line with the intent of those who CONTROL the technology.

Those who control this vast network of high tech wonders are HIDDEN behind classified walls, impenetrable even by Congress and even the President himself. They are not auditable, answer only to themselves (that we know of), and currently cannot be held accountable for anything. You can't prosecute and discipline those you can't even IDENTIFY.

Yet we are somehow supposed to "trust" these folks, not feel threatened by them in any way, in spite of our profound lack of ability to MONITOR them in ANY way - while they themselves possess the accelerating ability to monitor US in such profound ways that it almost staggers the mind, tamper with our health and food supply, our environment, our common currency, even our laws?

None of this "concerns" you?

2: What would I do in their place? ELIMINATE THE HIERARCHICAL COMPARTMENTALIZATION. Notice I didn't say "secrecy" - because some secrecy is always necessary. But what is being built now is a control grid that is completely and utterly controlled from the very tip of the pyramid - with **NO** veto capacity from the remainder of the structure WHATSOVER. Such a structure is anathema to ANY notion of self-determination. Such a system ultimately becomes DO or DIE - or even worse DO or YOU, YOUR FAMILY and EVEN MORE die.

Who can resist such tyranny? Especially when the tyrants remain secret and safely esconced behind dozens of layers of hierarchical compartmentalization?

I'm supposed to fear a guy with explosives strapped to his chest MORE than this?

Do YOU?

I suppose you could say that you continue to have "free will" because you can "always" choose death - even it means the accompanying death of many others.

But somehow I think they're working HARD to remove that "option" someday as well.

The ultimate slavery - where even death itself is not an option.

Of course there is no incentive for them to eliminate the compartmentalization, because they BELIEVE without question that achieving such control will free them and their descendants FOREVER from any worry or fear of ever losing their power. And they also believe that living without ABSOLUTE POWER over others - is a terrible way to live.

I beg to differ ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I agree with a small portion of this post. I disagree with a larger portion and find most of it to be exaggerated generalizations. That being said, I still find your fears of a nefarious cabal of untouchable civil servants rather interesting. You are a difficult “nut” to crack.

spock

<laughing>

I actually get the impression you are being honest and I have no idea how to feel about that.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


>> I disagree with a larger portion and find most of it to be exaggerated generalizations.

I would say that sentence itself is an "exaggerated generalization". Care to be more specific?

Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 08/13/2011 09:57 AM


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