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I fail to see your logic in this. Whether we use your scenario with Nancy's claims or some other disaster, "tilting" the Earth back and forth makes absolutely no sense. All the aliens would be doing is delaying the inevitable - which would be the deaths of millions of people. In fact, they would actually be helping the evil governments of the world in their efforts to cover up said impending doom. When used with Nancy's scenario - these super advanced aliens are not only aiding the evil governments, they're also violating a directive given to them by the "Council Of Worlds" pertaining to non-interference. In addition, "tilting" the planet would do nothing to keep people from finding out that Earth were halted in orbit. As mentioned, if it were and some alien race were "tilting" the planet - constellations, planets and stars would out of place...some would never come in to view as they should. Eventually, people would know...there would be nothing the big, bad, evil governments would be able to do about it. When it comes to surviving, people are not as complacent as Nancy would have you believe. If people were faced with possibly dying at the hands of the government by revolting or definitely dying by doing nothing - which course of action do you think people are going to choose? I know which one I would go with. And there's no way the government/armed forces could contain BILLIONS of people. The military would soon find themselves out manned and over powered.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


You're back to trying to argue points of logic with Maxie. It'a a total waste of time. He always resorts to "thin end of the wedge" arguments, which consist, basically, of one central point, which is: "Anything is possible", and: "You can't know anything for sure".
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"That" was not at all "well received" (to put it mildly). She immediately decided she wanted nothing more to do with me, and not five minutes later, fired off an email to her video sponsor, saying in essence that I *REFUSED* to cooperate and insisted on doing things "my way" instead of her's and his. (Which of course was absurd).
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You have just outlined the level of misrepresentation of events and falsification of facts upon which Zetatalk is built.
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Of course those who demand blind devotion, are also the most prone to give it to another whom they deem "superior" to themselves. Nancy would NEVER question the superior stance of the Zetas - and this of course translated into never questioning ANYTHING they said either, no matter how contorted it was.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


That is the hysterical blindness to which Nancy is subect and which led people to believe she is insane.
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Yes she did ... OVER TIME. Yes, I agree, in any "one" particular chat, she behaved as you describe. But I've never found a question that you can't find an "answer" to on ZetaTalk.com. The fact that you don't "like" the answer, or disagree with it is beside the point. She never tired of pointing people to ZetaTalk for questions she previously answered. In the end she started banning people for asking the "same" questions time and again - like Menow. Trinity gave her MOD powers to ban because even he recognized how disruptive the "debunkers" were - arriving week after week with the SAME questions, the SAME accusations, the SAME complaints, the SAME *spam*. Sincere inquirers who wanted to follow what she was saying were forced to wade through DOZENS of pages of vitriol before Trinity fixed that with this:

:hammerofglory:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Bullshit. Nancy's "answers", and I put it in quotes for the same reason you did, were not answers at all, although they may have been "responses". They were DODGES and obfuscations. The same questions were repeated because she never really answered them the first time. She would say: "The Zetas have repeatedly explained", and the like, when no such thing had really taken place.
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Bullshit. Nancy's "answers", and I put it in quotes for the same reason you did, were not answers at all, although they may have been "responses". They were DODGES and obfuscations. The same questions were repeated because she never really answered them the first time. She would say: "The Zetas have repeatedly explained", and the like, when no such thing had really taken place.
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+1000
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Bullshit. Nancy's "answers", and I put it in quotes for the same reason you did, were not answers at all, although they may have been "responses". They were DODGES and obfuscations. The same questions were repeated because she never really answered them the first time. She would say: "The Zetas have repeatedly explained", and the like, when no such thing had really taken place.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


+1000
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Virginia QUAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wendys_zet

because CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bullshit. Nancy's "answers", and I put it in quotes for the same reason you did, were not answers at all, although they may have been "responses". They were DODGES and obfuscations. The same questions were repeated because she never really answered them the first time. She would say: "The Zetas have repeatedly explained", and the like, when no such thing had really taken place.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


+1000
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Virginia QUAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:wendys_zet:

because CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Isn’t this where we ask you to provide proof that Cliff predicted a large earthquake in Virginia and you fail to respond?

Nonetheless, it is interesting that Colorado would get a 5.3 and Virginia a 5.9 on the same day.
<shrugs shoulders>
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Virginia QUAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wendys_zet

because CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You must b a nerd in real life, Melfy.

As dramatic as some earthquake events can be......they happen, k. Earthquakes can be frequent; strike at known and unknown parts of the earth; are sometimes destructive; sometimes not; vary in magnitude and shaking strength; etc etc.

In my opinion there is NO ohno moment regarding ANY person or persons PREDICTING or HINTING at earthquake events about to happen ANYWHERE on the planet.

IT is like saying......"THERE WILL BE AN ELECTRICAL STORM AT A GIVEN LOCATION ON PLANET EARTH IN THE NEXT 4 WEEKS".

lol4me These "natural events" occur eventually somewhere on planet earth, Melfy, and you know it.

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chuckle thumbs

Triumph R us!
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


Thankyou, Menow. And thanks for all your input.

PS: I have to say that just ONE post from you Menow, as is also the case from any debunker here, is worth more than 101 posts of dribble from ZM....just sayin.

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Bullshit. Nancy's "answers", and I put it in quotes for the same reason you did, were not answers at all, although they may have been "responses". They were DODGES and obfuscations. The same questions were repeated because she never really answered them the first time. She would say: "The Zetas have repeatedly explained", and the like, when no such thing had really taken place.
 Quoting: Menow 1417891


+1000
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Virginia QUAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wendys_zet

because CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Isn’t this where we ask you to provide proof that Cliff predicted a large earthquake in Virginia and you fail to respond?

Nonetheless, it is interesting that Colorado would get a 5.3 and Virginia a 5.9 on the same day.
<shrugs shoulders>
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On the Susan Toro show, he discussed the "shredding" quake in North America that was to occur on August 17th. Now granted, it's not the "17th" and it's not big enough to be termed "shredding" ... BUT IT'S A START!!!
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Virginia QUAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wendys_zet

because CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Where did Nancy, the "Zetas" or Clif predict this? Show us where any of them specifically said this would happen today. Can you? I thought not.

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On the Susan Toro show, he discussed the "shredding" quake in North America that was to occur on August 17th. Now granted, it's not the "17th" and it's not big enough to be termed "shredding" ... BUT IT'S A START!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


stupidstrong

Watch and learn.
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BTW, it is NOT a start unless it continues. If it doesn't then it's just purely chance. What a life you must have - spending day after day LOOKING for doom,

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On the Susan Toro show, he discussed the "shredding" quake in North America that was to occur on August 17th. Now granted, it's not the "17th" and it's not big enough to be termed "shredding" ... BUT IT'S A START!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Its not a start. its CHANCE. Pure Chance.

And btw, its Chance that has been provoked by contionuous probing, and it just worked.

Once.

of a thousand.
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On the Susan Toro show, he discussed the "shredding" quake in North America that was to occur on August 17th. Now granted, it's not the "17th" and it's not big enough to be termed "shredding" ... BUT IT'S A START!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


stupidstrong

Watch and learn.
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

BTW, it is NOT a start unless it continues. If it doesn't then it's just purely chance. What a life you must have - spending day after day LOOKING for doom,
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I don't trust the mainstream media.
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
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What sources do you trust? Judging from your past, it seems you prefer the following sources:

>Prognosticators with miserable tack records.

>Authors and “researchers“ who publish claims outside of their area of expertise(if they even happen to have one).

>Anyone who happens to upload a doom video on YouTube.
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"Microns"? I guess that puts it in perspective.
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What sources do you trust? Judging from your past, it seems you prefer the following sources:

>Prognosticators with miserable tack records.

>Authors and “researchers“ who publish claims outside of their area of expertise(if they even happen to have one).

>Anyone who happens to upload a doom video on YouTube.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
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THREE tragic air show deaths over the weekend. Maybe the debunkers should acknowledge that "something" really is "messing" with instrumentation???

detnews.com/article/20110822/METRO03/108220350
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You're just as ignorant about aviation as nancy is.

CB is right. All flights at airshows are performed in VFR conditions. A pilot does not do aerobatics with their head in the cockpit - it's all by external VISUAL references.

"Aerobatic pilot Bryan Jensen was killed in a fiery crash during the Kansas City Aviation Expo Air Show after his Vertical Unlimited 12 biplane appeared unable to pull out of a downward spiral and nosedived near the runway and burst into flames."



"DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT WING WALKER FELL OFF WING AND WAS FATALLY INJURED DURING AIRSHOW, MOUNT CLEMENS, MI"

That's from the FAA website - how does "instrumentation failure" make a guy fall off an airplane? Most likely his safety harness failed (mechanical failure).
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
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What sources do you trust? Judging from your past, it seems you prefer the following sources:

>Prognosticators with miserable tack records.

>Authors and “researchers“ who publish claims outside of their area of expertise(if they even happen to have one).

>Anyone who happens to upload a doom video on YouTube.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


By what methodology do you scrutinize? Certainly not by past performance.

You know what? It doesn't matter. Your methodology is wholly irrational, and you don't seem to learn from past performance -- neither yours nor anyone else's.

A pity.

I'll pop in every now and again to see if Hap got his steak. But I have become bored of the thread, and of Nancy. The thread topped 1000 pages, putting to shame any thread Nancy ever posted on GLP. She fled, and I have no desire to post to her bored <spelling intentional> to get immediately banned for asking rational, polite questions. She will continue to putter along, pointlessly.

Good enough for me. I will see you all when I see you all. Thanks for many laughs and occasional insights.
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On the Susan Toro show, he discussed the "shredding" quake in North America that was to occur on August 17th. Now granted, it's not the "17th" and it's not big enough to be termed "shredding" ... BUT IT'S A START!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


:stupidstrong:

Watch and learn.
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

BTW, it is NOT a start unless it continues. If it doesn't then it's just purely chance. What a life you must have - spending day after day LOOKING for doom,
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I dont trust morons.
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What sources do you trust? Judging from your past, it seems you prefer the following sources:

>Prognosticators with miserable tack records.

>Authors and “researchers“ who publish claims outside of their area of expertise(if they even happen to have one).

>Anyone who happens to upload a doom video on YouTube.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

You believe to scutinize your resorces ?

Wow, this is indeed one of the best jokes i ever heard, and particular it is one of the greatest bullshit statements i ever read, equal only to the "best" ones which even Nancy has produced.

I wouldnt call that sane, btw.
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I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You didn't scrutinize Nancy.

You didn't scrutinize Cliffy boy.

I guess that means you are not much of a truth coach.
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
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And yet you believe these "prophets" who haven't gotten anything right. Amazing.
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I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Truth coach? LOL!! No, no, no...truth twister or truth manipulator...maybe even truth denier would be more appropriate titles. And what scrutinizing have you done? You believe whatever they tell you.
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I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Truth coach? LOL!! No, no, no...truth twister or truth manipulator...maybe even truth denier would be more appropriate titles. And what scrutinizing have you done? You believe whatever they tell you.
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If I hadn't have followed the "logic" of the Zetas, I would be in New Jersey right now facing the devastating onslaught of Irene!!!

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I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Truth coach? LOL!! No, no, no...truth twister or truth manipulator...maybe even truth denier would be more appropriate titles. And what scrutinizing have you done? You believe whatever they tell you.
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If I hadn't have followed the "logic" of the Zetas, I would be in New Jersey right now facing the devastating onslaught of Irene!!!

:zetasbillb:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Did the zetas predict Irene? No.

You really don't understand cause and effect, do you?
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If I hadn't have followed the "logic" of the Zetas, I would be in New Jersey right now facing the devastating onslaught of Irene!!!

zetasbillb
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Seriously? Here's a question for you - how exactly did their "logic" keep you out of New Jersey? They NEVER predicted this particular hurricane and such a storm has always been a possibility. One wouldn't even have needed the imaginary "Zetas" to figure this out. All one needed to do is look at the tracks of hurricanes. Without the help of the imaginary "Zetas" I already know that living anywhere on the eastern coast or along the Gulf is a risk because of the possibility of hurricanes. Do you need the "Zetas" to tell you that living in CA will expose you to an earthquake? Do you need the "Zetas" to tell you that living in the Mid-west presents the possibility of being hit by a tornado? Take your shilling to the ning.

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BTW, how do you know what this storm is going to do? It hasn't even made it that far north yet. It could still turn out to sea. Did you ask Clif or the "Zetas?" How's that "shredding" going for you? I'd say pretty poorly since there have been no further moderate to strong earthquakes. I guess I need to make a smilie for "Clif wrong again!" since you jumped on his bandwagon. Oh, and Oct 22 is coming up so there's still time for you to jump on Harold Camping's bandwagon as well. Perhaps you'd like to make a donation to his cause as well.

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If I hadn't have followed the "logic" of the Zetas, I would be in New Jersey right now facing the devastating onslaught of Irene!!!

zetasbillb
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Seriously? Here's a question for you - how exactly did their "logic" keep you out of New Jersey? They NEVER predicted this particular hurricane and such a storm has always been a possibility. One wouldn't even have needed the imaginary "Zetas" to figure this out. All one needed to do is look at the tracks of hurricanes. Without the help of the imaginary "Zetas" I already know that living anywhere on the eastern coast or along the Gulf is a risk because of the possibility of hurricanes. Do you need the "Zetas" to tell you that living in CA will expose you to an earthquake? Do you need the "Zetas" to tell you that living in the Mid-west presents the possibility of being hit by a tornado? Take your shilling to the ning.

zwrong2
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BTW, how do you know what this storm is going to do? It hasn't even made it that far north yet. It could still turn out to sea. Did you ask Clif or the "Zetas?" How's that "shredding" going for you? I'd say pretty poorly since there have been no further moderate to strong earthquakes. I guess I need to make a smilie for "Clif wrong again!" since you jumped on his bandwagon. Oh, and Oct 22 is coming up so there's still time for you to jump on Harold Camping's bandwagon as well. Perhaps you'd like to make a donation to his cause as well.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Clearly we are headed for financial collapse. According to Clif, the "just-in-time" food delivery system is perilously close to collapse. It only needs a "black swan" event - perhaps like Irene, to make it happen.

Clif is hardly "wrong" again ...

That's just SILLY!!

_absurd

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Clif is hardly "wrong" again ...

That's just SILLY!!

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 Quoting: **ZetaMax**



He hasn't been right yet. So, until something happens exactly like he claims without any excuses afterwards, he is and always will be wrong. Period.

BTW, Irene is weakening...maximum winds are 85 mph. Barely hurricane force. So much for being a "devastating storm" for NJ.

As for your claims about the "just in time" food delivery system - that's nothing new. I certainly didn't need Clif to know that. It's very obvious to anyone paying attention that we've become to reliant on technology - ATMs, debit machines, cell phones - that a large event can take the system down. However, a storm or earthquake will NOT bring the whole system down. It will only impact the area hit by the event.

And financial collapse? Maybe - maybe not. But again, one doesn't need Clif to figure these things out. Economists know what's going on far more than Clif.

But you go ahead and live your life the scared person you seem to be...worrying about everything. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" "Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!"

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