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Time 1972: Planet X

Science: A Tenth Planet?


It has been 42 years since Clyde Tombaugh, at Arizona's Lowell Observatory, discovered the last and outermost of the solar system's nine known planets. But many astronomers have never given up hope of finding a tenth planet even farther from the sun. They have been encouraged in their search by irregularities in the orbit of the eighth planet, Neptune, which some suspect could be caused by the gravitational tug of a mysterious "Planet X." Until now, however, all efforts to sight Planet X have failed.

This week a University of California scientist announced that he may finally have found that elusive target. Writing in the journal of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, Joseph L. Brady of the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory gave a description of the long-sought tenth planet, complete with its distance from the sun and its current position in the heavens. His "discovery" was made, not by scanning photographic plates, but by analyzing the erratic behavior of Halley's Comet, which comes into view every 76 years (next appearance: 1986), as it nears the sun in its elliptical and far-ranging orbit.

Checking historical observations dating back nearly 1,700 years, Brady found a peculiar irregularity: on each approach to the sun, Halley's Comet shows up as many as four days earlier or later than its predicted arrival date. That variation seemed to indicate that some unknown force must be influencing the comet's motion. Could it be the gravitational tug of a planet beyond Pluto?

For four years, Brady fed into a computer mathematical models of a ten-planet solar system, seeking the characteristics of a still undiscovered planet that would cause the irregularities in the comet's orbit. Gradually the description of Planet X emerged: it would be three times as massive as Saturn (second largest of the planets) and nearly 6 billion miles from the sun (more than half again as far as Pluto). It would take 464 years to complete a single trip around the sun, and the plane of its orbit would be tilted an angle of approximately 60° from the general orbital planes of the planets. Strangest of all, its motion would be retrograde; that is, it would travel around the sun in the opposite direction from all the other planets.

To convince skeptics, Brady has already begun additional computations to check the gravitational effects that Planet X would have on the known orbits of the outer planets. Still, the real test must be visual—a photograph of Planet X. At its great distance from the sun. however, Planet X would reflect only a modicum of light. Furthermore, Brady's calculations indicate that the planet is now located in the Constellation Cassiopeia, which is cluttered with so many stars that the planet would be hard to find. Nonetheless, Brady is hopeful that a sharp-eyed astronomer, scanning photographic plates, will some day detect a dim pinpoint of light reflected from far-off Planet X.

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God freestore- how desperate ARE you???

1972???

Mums Kingswood had just rolled off the factory floor less than 6 months earlier
Costa cool $2700(which wasn't that cool as it included as standard- a motor and a body and 5 wheels....)
little else
NO aircon (not even an option on that model HQ); radio (am only - in glorious mono!!!)- extra; intermittent wipers or rear window demister- not available

What you did get was 4 wind down windows for demisting (with HANDLES) and even the cigarette lighter was an optional extra....




Since then cars have advanced `just a touch', and surprise surprise- what do you think has happened in the world of astronomy since then freestoned???

(Of course I don't actually expect a serious answer from our `word' Canadian clown- it just shows how truly desperate the zeta clowns are- they will try and use ANYTHING if it `advances' their cause (in their eyes of course)

The rest of us laugh at their childish antics, and occasionally learn something new (I been following the antics of a moon hoaxer called Jarrah White, which I am ashamed to say is an Aussie)- the best thing is that (like nancy and her socks) he claims victory when obviously the opposite has happened to anyone, but I discovered a whole new history of the moon landings to explore (I been a avid anti moonhoaxer for over 10 years- and I hadn't even heard of these pages before that thread- original copies of manuals, the `thinking out loud' notes of many of the leading lights of the moon race people, a complete hundreds of pages manual on the lander in pdf

makes freestoned and his LIEder not only `seem' a bit silly, but really rather pathetic

There is all these fascinating FACTS out there, and he and max still want to listen to that senile old bat's blitherings???

sad and rather pathetic
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Good job, Free Store...your own link debunks Nancy. How? If "Planet X" existed as SHE describes it, then it would only have an impact on the orbits of Neptune and Haley's Comet every 3600 years.

But all isn't lost - even though that article is quite old, maybe you can contact them and tell them to quit looking to the outer solar and concentrate their search around the sun since that's where you and Nancy believe it is.

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I remember reading a popular mechanics article not long ago on youtube from the 1950's about Planet X. Didn't have it booked marked

AS far as I am concerned, Planet X is quite the catch among real Astronomers. Pluto was found while looking for Planet X

They must know alot about Planet X from older literature and writings. That;s the difference between the bunkers and the debunkers. The debunkers always want to hide there heads in the sand..aaaahhh. not very scientific.

Anyway I'm set for five years of survival. That security feels real good like nothing else. And you ?
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`planet X' is (and has been for as long as I have been alive) astronomer talk for `unknown possible planet'

NOT


nancy LIEders bullshit invisible planet that doesn't exist...

`Japanese Godzilla syndrome' at its `best'....

`freestones view of japan'

OMFG japanese nuke...lear reactor in `massive meltdown' ITS GODZILLA!!!!

debunkers- IF it was a mythical mutant dinosaur- wouldn't there be some evidence- say... like maybe... a massive dinosaur that everyone can see??
`freestoned' it's there in plain sight- as long as you use a cheap webcam and focus it 2cm above the page of a national geographic photo of a dinosaur...

but say we wanted to see it in real life- not a crappy photo that could be anything- where would we go in Japan to see it- you know an address, a point on the globe??

`freestoned'- debunker fool - its in plain sight - right in front of you(deletes 16 lines of abusive language)

So if we get someone there to go to that spot they will see a massive lizard breathing fire??

(freestoned runs away for 6 months and hides in his bunker again- minus his family- because in the end they were less important than the stoners `survival')

what a waste of a life- at least his family aren't hiding in the bunker with him, that would be a bigger waste

ever think stoner that `maybe' (just maybe) you are wrong and you have wasted your entire life on a lie that is impossible and isn't ever going to happen??

have a good long think before dribbling more verbal diarrhea


is it possible that you(and the scamming wannabe cult leader(es) are wrong????

that planet x DOESNT exist??

what would that make your life worth????
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I remember reading a popular mechanics article not long ago on youtube from the 1950's about Planet X. Didn't have it booked marked

AS far as I am concerned, Planet X is quite the catch among real Astronomers. Pluto was found while looking for Planet X

They must know alot about Planet X from older literature and writings. That;s the difference between the bunkers and the debunkers. The debunkers always want to hide there heads in the sand..aaaahhh. not very scientific.

Anyway I'm set for five years of survival. That security feels real good like nothing else. And you ?
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372


WRONG as usual Free Store. Let's clarify something right now - although we've told you this many times - no "debunker" has ever said that a 10th planet doesn't exist...but we can't say it does either without concrete and verifiable evidence. And there's a HUGE difference between what astronomers are looking for and what Nancy talks about. Here's the REAL difference between "bunkers" and "debunkers":

Bunkers:
Here's our conclusion - what evidence can we find or twist to support it?

Debunkers:
Here's the evidence - what conclusions can we draw from it?

You don't think that's true? Let's look at your situation. You believe that "Planet X" as Nancy describes it is real...so real that you built a bunker, let your beliefs break up your family and even threatened to commit suicide if "Planet X" didn't show up - all without ANY evidence to show it existed in the first place. You simply believed whatever Nancy told you...which has all been proven wrong time and time again...without checking facts. To this day, you refuse to give up on this belief regardless of the fact that numerous "pole shift" dates have come and gone. So, tell us again, who's one that REALLY has their head in the sand? Explain how your beliefs are scientific.

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According to the latest on the ning, Manilla is sinking. I wonder what excuse she'll use in a year when Manilla is still above water. Art Bell lives there now and has his amateur radio station set up in their high level condo. If Manilla were indeed sinking, guaranteed he would talk about it. And it would be mentioned on Coast to Coast with George Snooray.
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Time 1972: Planet X

Science: A Tenth Planet?


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 Quoting: Free Store 1148161

Geez...you're that freaking stupid Freeky?

I bet you've never bothered to read any of the scientific papers associated with the search for Planet X (I'm not talking about Nancy's planet eX). If you'd bother to read the literature, you'd see that what was theorized in no way, shape or form resembles what Nancy claims.

Read Harrington's papers...do a search through the Harvard/NASA scientific paper database...you'll see that I'm right.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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LOL! Over on the ning, Nancy is using photos obviously taken at sunrise or sunset showing red clouds and using that as "proof" of red dust from "Planet X"....naturally, her sheeple lap it right up. There's also a photo of a "red sky" at night but it's obvious that what was photographed was city lights reflecting off an overcast sky.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


And no questions about Indonesia not being under 80 feet of water, 9 months after she said it would be?
 Quoting: walt


It's hard to tell if anyone ever questioned that. If they did, it would have been deleted right away.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529

Why did nobody state that he has seen it under water... interesting, what will happen then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


You would think that sort of logic would matter, but it doesn't. I've watched it for too long. Nancy doesn't allow that sort of logic to be applied to her story. She gets them to accepting that they don't get to decide anything for themselves. They only think what she tells them to think, and its slick enough that they don't even know it's happening.
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According to the latest on the ning, Manilla is sinking. I wonder what excuse she'll use in a year when Manilla is still above water. Art Bell lives there now and has his amateur radio station set up in their high level condo. If Manilla were indeed sinking, guaranteed he would talk about it. And it would be mentioned on Coast to Coast with George Snooray.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


BUUUUTTT...

Indonesia is already underwater (people who claim otherwise apparently are paid debunkers according to nancy)

but that means I am living with a paid debunker!!

(my workmate who I have known for over a decade, went over there recently, installed a computerised fuel tank monitoring system and returned alive to crash at my flat over the last 3 weeks before leaving for western parts last week)

Even now I can dial into the system he installed (total cost about 1/4 million bucks) and see the current fuel levels in the big tanks (that are underwater as well apparently...)


Hmmm

what a dilemma...


nancy LIEder says its all not happening- I am imagining that my mate went over there (in a plane- no submarines required) and installed a computer underwater (funny I didn't know he was a scuba diver)


OR....

nancy LIEder is a LIAR...



what a dilemma- whatever shall I believe????
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...


And no questions about Indonesia not being under 80 feet of water, 9 months after she said it would be?
 Quoting: walt


It's hard to tell if anyone ever questioned that. If they did, it would have been deleted right away.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529

Why did nobody state that he has seen it under water... interesting, what will happen then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


You would think that sort of logic would matter, but it doesn't. I've watched it for too long. Nancy doesn't allow that sort of logic to be applied to her story. She gets them to accepting that they don't get to decide anything for themselves. They only think what she tells them to think, and its slick enough that they don't even know it's happening.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529


Prerequisites to join Nancy's little church of idiocy:
1. Cease all logical thought
2. Cease all critical thinking
3. Keep mouth shut except to praise Nancy
4. Do not question lest ye be labelled a heretic
5. Throw everything you learned about science out the door
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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That pretty much covers it.
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That pretty much covers it.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


...and if you read the ning, you'll see what I mean.

It's quite amazing that so many people (all 5,050 of them) suspend all rational thinking. They lap all the crap that Nancy and her minions spew as if it was the finest cream available.

It's either quite funny or quite pathetic. I'm leaning toward pathetic as I find it quite disappointing that so many people are so damn ignorant to believe her crap. Unfortunately, if the rest of the population is so damn gullible, it's no wonder the world is in such a crappy shape.

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I'm a member of the ning...I occasionally make posts there. It's hard sometimes to act so incredibly stupid.
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I'm a member of the ning...I occasionally make posts there. It's hard sometimes to act so incredibly stupid.
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lol4me ......you were obviously taking notes to learn from the best, CB. I mean who better than Melfy's incredibily stupid behaviour here can one use to perfect your undercover mission over there at the Poleshit ning.
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I'm a member of the ning...I occasionally make posts there. It's hard sometimes to act so incredibly stupid.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I could never keep an account there. I would ask obvious questions and get banned immediately. I even got banned for telling someone to google something once. You can't ask anything which implies that something Nancy or "Zetas" have said isn't right. They always SAY that you should confirm things for yourself, but the only option is to confirm that Nancy is right. You can't even research something FOR YOURSELF and determine that Nancy was wrong. It simply isn't allowed.
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Oh man! Postman got banned AND his stuff all got deleted? What can I say. Shit gets flushed!

What a petty, small minded, and sad thing to do. Why is this
place so damned afraid of me? They actually deleted ALL the
posts I've ever made here, all the threads I've ever started,
and therefore all the posts from anyone who ever posted to
them. Why would they think I'd care about threads and posts
no one ever looks at? The only reason I know about it is
because a few of you guys emailed me and asked.

Later folks. I like where I'm at. Everyone who's ever been
banned from here has ended up there. You don't have to worry
about posting the wrong word or URL and getting banned for
it over there. Membership is free and so are the unlimited
smileys and personal avatars you want. You can find the place
I'm referring to because it's now #8 in the Top Conspiracy
Sites list and that makes this place furious. I'm sure my IP
addy will get banned again because of this post - like I
should give a fuck. Ban me you impotent fucks, it's all you
can do now.
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Oh man! Postman got banned AND his stuff all got deleted? What can I say. Shit gets flushed!
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You like the taste of Trin's ass so much? You'll sing
a different tune when you get arbitrarily banned.
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Oh man! Postman got banned AND his stuff all got deleted? What can I say. Shit gets flushed!
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Guess that means you won't be here very long then.
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None of the poll options are even remotely close to what is going to happen, I don't believe you are qualified to debunk topics.
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None of the poll options are even remotely close to what is going to happen, I don't believe you are qualified to debunk topics.
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when you have read all (now 970 pages) formerly 1000 plus pages- would you care to expand on where you think we have been mistaken???


I'm a member of the ning...I occasionally make posts there. It's hard sometimes to act so incredibly stupid.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I could never keep an account there. I would ask obvious questions and get banned immediately. I even got banned for telling someone to google something once. You can't ask anything which implies that something Nancy or "Zetas" have said isn't right. They always SAY that you should confirm things for yourself, but the only option is to confirm that Nancy is right. You can't even research something FOR YOURSELF and determine that Nancy was wrong. It simply isn't allowed.
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I have 2 but have only posted a couple of times. Had 3 but 1 got deleted after`daring' to contradict her about the weather conditions in my home town.......(like I only LIVE here- how would I know what the weather is doing here???? )

shows the mentalitity of its thinking tho
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Pluto was found while looking for Planet X
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372

And Pluto WAS what they looked for - the reason for the aberrations in the sky movements.

Pluto was "their" Planet X, you goose.

Anyway I'm set for five years of survival. That security feels real good like nothing else. And you ?
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372


Im set for a happy retiring in spring. And one of the thing while i will enjoy life is an every days smile at the stupidsters of doomers all around...
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Pluto was found while looking for Planet X
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372

And Pluto WAS what they looked for - the reason for the aberrations in the sky movements.

Pluto was "their" Planet X, you goose.

Anyway I'm set for five years of survival. That security feels real good like nothing else. And you ?
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372


Im set for a happy retiring in spring. And one of the thing while i will enjoy life is an every days smile at the stupidsters of doomers all around...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


soonx
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Wow, Max hasn't been around much. Did Nancy finally lay him off too?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


It's Max's MO. He will lie low until he figures enough water is under the bridge that we won't remember, but how could we forget? Or he is trying to find a way to spin things to cover his latest fail because he will never be man enough to admit he was wrong and mean it. Go away for a few months and as soon as I log in I see nothing changes.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


_absurd

I have other priorities I must occasionally attend to.
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Pluto was found while looking for Planet X
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372

And Pluto WAS what they looked for - the reason for the aberrations in the sky movements.

Pluto was "their" Planet X, you goose.

Anyway I'm set for five years of survival. That security feels real good like nothing else. And you ?
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372


Im set for a happy retiring in spring. And one of the thing while i will enjoy life is an every days smile at the stupidsters of doomers all around...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


:soonx:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Mymomy, you are right for once:

My happy retirement is SOON.

And i will continuously laugh my ass of due tp your stupid fantasies.
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Pluto was found while looking for Planet X
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372

And Pluto WAS what they looked for - the reason for the aberrations in the sky movements.

Pluto was "their" Planet X, you goose.

Anyway I'm set for five years of survival. That security feels real good like nothing else. And you ?
 Quoting: Free Store 2399372


Im set for a happy retiring in spring. And one of the thing while i will enjoy life is an every days smile at the stupidsters of doomers all around...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


:soonx:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**
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I have other priorities I must occasionally attend to.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Hang on a second, this is the most important event ever, and we all should be preparing, but you have something more important to do?

Credibility, meet toilet.
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OMG! Steve Jobs has passed away. I can hear it now on the ning:

SOZT
Steve Jobs did not die of pancreatic cancer as the media is reporting. With his many connections, he gained secret knowledge about Planet X, its location and when it would approach Earth. The elite were very concerned about this as he was not one of those promised a place in the new order and was threatening to release this information to the common man. Since this information could not be shared, the government had him killed.
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So Max, how's that Elenin doom working out for you?
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Didn't you notice the world destroying earthquakes, volcanoes exploding everywhere, death and destruction, fire and brimstone, meteors destroying cities everywhere raining down from the sky C.B????

I mean come on- it was so OBVIOUS......







That we all slept in and missed it....

(dammit thats ANOTHER end of the world that was so horrifying that I didn't even notice it happening...)

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