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Zetas Special Tuesday 11th

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Nancy and "Zetas" have built 'retreat points' into the system- one of which is the "White Lie" idea. There is no way to logically force her to admit that anything she ever said was wrong when she has the "White Lie" as a fall-back point. It's like a 'get out of jail free' card. If one has no shame, and never admits to error, the story never dies. Even when Nancy admitted to being wrong on a couple of occaisions, she spun it into a positive for her... either she was showing that she was fallible- a level of deniability- or that she can't really be inventing all this stuff because she is just an ignorant little old lady. There is realistically NO end to the number of excuses and dodges and circular reasononing she and "Zetas" can employ.... and she/they KNOW it! All that really has to happen is that she/they maintain the basic story, ALWAYS,even if it has to change! Strange, but true.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529


Nancy and the "Zetas" are perilously close to a difficult position. You can only tell a "white lie" so many times and you can't keep using the same one. She can't keep claiming the "Zetas" won't give a timeline or that it was all a ruse to force the government to show their true intentions.
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Sure she can. It's not like she was ever bound by logic or integrity or truthfullness before. That's the mistake we all made all along... that she would have to admit it if we showed that she was obviously wrong. We have done that a hundred times over, yet she soldiers on. There will never be the satisfaction of bringing Nancy down by exposing her lies. Her system can withstand it.
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Nancy and "Zetas" have built 'retreat points' into the system- one of which is the "White Lie" idea. There is no way to logically force her to admit that anything she ever said was wrong when she has the "White Lie" as a fall-back point. It's like a 'get out of jail free' card. If one has no shame, and never admits to error, the story never dies. Even when Nancy admitted to being wrong on a couple of occaisions, she spun it into a positive for her... either she was showing that she was fallible- a level of deniability- or that she can't really be inventing all this stuff because she is just an ignorant little old lady. There is realistically NO end to the number of excuses and dodges and circular reasononing she and "Zetas" can employ.... and she/they KNOW it! All that really has to happen is that she/they maintain the basic story, ALWAYS,even if it has to change! Strange, but true.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529


Nancy and the "Zetas" are perilously close to a difficult position. You can only tell a "white lie" so many times and you can't keep using the same one. She can't keep claiming the "Zetas" won't give a timeline or that it was all a ruse to force the government to show their true intentions.
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>> You can only tell a "white lie" so many times ...

How many times?

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OMG! Steve Jobs has passed away. I can hear it now on the ning:

SOZT
Steve Jobs did not die of pancreatic cancer as the media is reporting. With his many connections, he gained secret knowledge about Planet X, its location and when it would approach Earth. The elite were very concerned about this as he was not one of those promised a place in the new order and was threatening to release this information to the common man. Since this information could not be shared, the government had him killed.
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She offed him.

"It was known that Steve Jobs was suffering from terminal cancer for some months. When the elite slip away, they will not do so in a manner that can be checked. A faked death has too many possibilities of discovery, and there are other options, like retirement. Likewise, where the wealthy can be expected to squirrel away their gold reserves at their bunkers, Venezuela is merely taking steps to ensure their assets are not frozen and in essence, in the opinion of Chavaz, confiscated as Libya's were when a civil war broke out there. Such moves to bring assets within the borders of the country can be expected to be on the increase as the Earth changes pick up, all countries taking such precautions. "
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It's clear he died to prepare for the earth changes!
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How many times?

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You're insinuating that I've been telling "white lies" - so, tell us, what "white lies" have I been telling? Come on - back it up with something.
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It's clear he died to prepare for the earth changes!
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The tards would be wise to read this:
[link to www.universetoday.com]

Although, much of it is probably above their head.
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Someone sure is full of themselves, you can guess who said it:

"I too want to ask a question. I was invited to C2C this upcoming Tuesday October 11 at 10:00 Pacific time. Last time I was on was 2007, rather obviously blacklisted as the Zeta predictions were coming true steadily all this time. C2C is not the only media outlet turning their back on me, as BBC also expressed interest a year ago, even calling me, Nancy, "the founder of the Planet X theory", yet the special they said they were planning never came about. Why the change now? This question has been accepted by the Zetas."

Obviously, she doesn't realize the reason she hasn't been on again is because NOTHING she's predicted has every come true. C2C producers simply don't find her as interesting as she would like. And I seriously doubt her claims about the BBC when she isn't even CLOSE to being the founder of the "Planet X" theory. That would go to Stitchin...who is/was just as wrong as Nancy.

And here's the humorous response from the "Zetas":

SOZT
Nancy was just invited back onto C2C after having been absent since 2007. What happened for the black listing to be lifted? Clearly the wobble has become worse, the public noting the Sun in the wrong place, the weather more extreme, but these matters have been around steadily for years and been ignored by the C2C editors. Certainly the 7 of 10 was presented last Fall by Gordon, citing ZetaTalk, and has been unfolding but has been effectively denied by the media, claiming sea level rise and rain and the like. C2C is trying to get ahead of the crowd, as they have heard by the grapevine that Nancy will be getting media attention at high levels, and soon. This should not be a surprise, as we have stated repeatedly that at some point, when the world is reaching the level of being in shock at the Earth changes, that Nancy would be pressed forward due to her emphasis on survival techniques and self sufficiency. At least equal to these reasons is the Puppet Masters desire to have more timely ZetaTalk on what is coming, as for some time we, the Zetas, have refused to give him clues unless he gets Nancy into the media. Seeing Africa begin to move was a motivator in this respect.
EOZT

Can't wait to hear what "they" have to say a few years from now when none of the shit they're talking about has happened and all those places that were supposed to be under water simply aren't.

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Can't wait to hear what "they" have to say a few years from now when none of the shit they're talking about has happened and all those places that were supposed to be under water simply aren't.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


She/they will just say/do the same thing as they do about all the predictions and claims from before 2003- invent elaborate excuses and/or dodge the issue, and/or claim it really happened by massaging the facts in retrospect.
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I wonder if someone will ask her why the "shock the world" events, which were supposed to happen by the end of 2010, never happened.
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And here's the humorous response from the "Zetas":

SOZT
Nancy was just invited back onto C2C after having been absent since 2007. What happened for the black listing to be lifted? Clearly the wobble has become worse, the public noting the Sun in the wrong place, the weather more extreme, but these matters have been around steadily for years and been ignored by the C2C editors. Certainly the 7 of 10 was presented last Fall by Gordon, citing ZetaTalk, and has been unfolding but has been effectively denied by the media, claiming sea level rise and rain and the like. C2C is trying to get ahead of the crowd, as they have heard by the grapevine that Nancy will be getting media attention at high levels, and soon. This should not be a surprise, as we have stated repeatedly that at some point, when the world is reaching the level of being in shock at the Earth changes, that Nancy would be pressed forward due to her emphasis on survival techniques and self sufficiency. At least equal to these reasons is the Puppet Masters desire to have more timely ZetaTalk on what is coming, as for some time we, the Zetas, have refused to give him clues unless he gets Nancy into the media. Seeing Africa begin to move was a motivator in this respect.
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Africa moving? I doubt that...LOL!
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SOZT
Nancy was just invited back onto C2C after having been absent since 2007. What happened for the black listing to be lifted? Clearly the wobble has become worse, the public noting the Sun in the wrong place, the weather more extreme, but these matters have been around steadily for years and been ignored by the C2C editors. Certainly the 7 of 10 was presented last Fall by Gordon, citing ZetaTalk, and has been unfolding but has been effectively denied by the media, claiming sea level rise and rain and the like. C2C is trying to get ahead of the crowd, as they have heard by the grapevine that Nancy will be getting media attention at high levels, and soon. This should not be a surprise, as we have stated repeatedly that at some point, when the world is reaching the level of being in shock at the Earth changes, that Nancy would be pressed forward due to her emphasis on survival techniques and self sufficiency. At least equal to these reasons is the Puppet Masters desire to have more timely ZetaTalk on what is coming, as for some time we, the Zetas, have refused to give him clues unless he gets Nancy into the media. Seeing Africa begin to move was a motivator in this respect.
EOZT
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There's that word again. crazy
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simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves."
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Nancy is not invited to be on CtoC = "Zetas right!"

Nancy is invited to be on CtoC = "Zetas right!"

The factspin hilarity never ceases.
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I came across a reference where NANCY, HERSELF, confirms that the "7 of 10" was supposed to happen by the end of 2010:

From this page showing Nancy's media appearances:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

live chat Oct 12, 2010 Prophecies Forum Prophecies Chat (Log Available)

To this link:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

10:29 AM [NancyLieder] Zeta predictions: pole shift 90 degree crustal shift in our near future (don't count on 12/21/2010 being a valid date at all), 7 of 10 by year end. This is where 10 of 10 is the pole shift itself. 9 of 10 the last weeks (which are over a 2 month period),

10:30 AM [NancyLieder] 8 of 10 almost continuous plate movement, 7 of 10 one of several scenarios depicted to me at a holographic presentation last fall.



Funny how, when it DIDN'T happen, Nancy started claiming that it was only to START happening by then. Heh.
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Ohh... and for those who, over the years, have claimed that PX was not the central idea of Zetatalk, here is NANCY HERSELF confirming that. From the same page of chat from 2010:

10:18 AM [NancyLieder] I have been on lots of media outlets over the years, mostly banned lately by, for instance, C2C although Ed Dames is allowed and HIS predictions never come about. The establishment does not want the truth about Planet X, which is the main ZetaTalk message


Heh. This chat is a gold mine.
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Ohh... and for those who, over the years, have claimed that PX was not the central idea of Zetatalk, here is NANCY HERSELF confirming that. From the same page of chat from 2010:

10:18 AM [NancyLieder] I have been on lots of media outlets over the years, mostly banned lately by, for instance, C2C although Ed Dames is allowed and HIS predictions never come about. The establishment does not want the truth about Planet X, which is the main ZetaTalk message


Heh. This chat is a gold mine.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529


Is she starting to claim that Planet X isn't the Zetatalk
message? After all the years of "warning mankind" she's
trying to drop Planet X?
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Ohh... and for those who, over the years, have claimed that PX was not the central idea of Zetatalk, here is NANCY HERSELF confirming that. From the same page of chat from 2010:

10:18 AM [NancyLieder] I have been on lots of media outlets over the years, mostly banned lately by, for instance, C2C although Ed Dames is allowed and HIS predictions never come about. The establishment does not want the truth about Planet X, which is the main ZetaTalk message


Heh. This chat is a gold mine.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529


Is she starting to claim that Planet X isn't the Zetatalk
message? After all the years of "warning mankind" she's
trying to drop Planet X?
 Quoting: DrPostman CLI


No. Over the years some others have said that Zetatalk contained other "wisdom" which was worth studying and that we shouldn't focus so much on the errors in her PX claims because that was not the main/only part of it.
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Here is another demonstration of the dangers still posed by the cult of Zetatalk. Here is someone who may be willing to commit financial suicide to prepare for the mythical pole shift.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]


"What I really am looking for is an answer to whether or not we should go into debt to collect the things we need to sustain life."
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Only three more weeks until Nancy's little fairy tale blows up in her face. Remember she said that "planet ex" would be "undeniable" in our skies MONTHS before the pole shift and that the pole shift would happen BEFORE 2012. So, the end of October is the end of the road for her.
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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Do we need an update anyone? good
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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Do we need an update anyone? good
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No updates needed - you're still gullible and believe whatever your master tells you. Everything at that link was supposed to have happened in 2003. End of story. It didn't happen. Come back in 2013 when "Planet X" is still a no show and Nancy is busy handing you more excuses.

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Only three more weeks until Nancy's little fairy tale blows up in her face. Remember she said that "planet ex" would be "undeniable" in our skies MONTHS before the pole shift and that the pole shift would happen BEFORE 2012. So, the end of October is the end of the road for her.
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It was "then end of the road" for Nancy to anyone with critical thinking skills many years ago. For those in her cult, she has already brushed off that failed prediction, and they have already dismissed the failure by accepting her excuse. Actually, most of them don't even know she ever made that firm date claim. Nancy and Gerard and others control all discussion on the ning, so they will never hear about it.
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Don't forget - we only have 11 days left to live according to Harold Camping.
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Don't forget - we only have 11 days left to live according to Harold Camping.
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Wow. I forgot about him. Is anybody taking him seriously this time? What did his people say after his big FAIL last time?
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Wow. I forgot about him. Is anybody taking him seriously this time? What did his people say after his big FAIL last time?
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I'd have to say no one in the media is taking him seriously...I haven't seen any other stories about him since his May failure. I really wish MSNBC and CNN would do a follow up. Back in May, he claimed the rapture did start just as he predicted and that October 22 would be the end. I REALLY want to hear what he has to say when nothing happens - again.
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Oops, I'm sorry - we only have 10 days. It's all supposed to end on October 21.

[link to articles.businessinsider.com]

Harold Camping, who announced the Rapture would occur Saturday, has had another revelation: The world will now end on October 21.

Camping says God held off Saturday out of mercy: He did not want man to suffer for five months, but he was here on earth, spiritually.

Speaking on Family Radio, Camping said (via Daily Mail):

Last weekend became a very interesting weekend because May 21 came and has gone and all the dire predictions that have been talked about did not come to pass.

I can tell you when May 21 came and went it was a very difficult time for me – a very difficult time. I was truly wondering what is going on. In my mind I went back through all of the promises God had made. What in the world was happening? I really was praying and praying: “Lord, what happened” because all through this I’d been astounded how God opened door after door...

The great earthquake didn’t happen on May 21 because no-one will be able to survive it for more than a few days or let alone five months to suffer God’s wrath because everything will be leveled and destroyed after that earthquake and there will be no food or water to keep everyone alive ...

We’re not going to be passing any more tracts or put up any more billboards or advertising in any way about judgment day – that’s all done. The world has been warned – we did our little share and boy, did the media pick it up. Now the world has been told that it’s under judgment.

The great earthquake and rapture and the universe melting in fervent heat will be happening on the last day – October 21 2011... It’s all going to happen on the last day...The great earthquake didn’t happen on May 21 because no-one will be able to survive it for more than a few days or let alone five months to suffer God’s wrath because everything will be levelled and destroyed after that earthquake and there will be no food or water to keep everyone alive.
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Here's an article from ABC News today:

[link to abcnews.go.com]

Harold Camping, the Christian broadcaster who predicted the end of the world would come last May, says the true end is now near. He was off by five months, he says; the real day is Oct. 21.

“What really happened this past May 21st? What really happened is that God accomplished exactly what He wanted to happen,” says a post on Camping’s website, FamilyRadio.com. “That was to warn the whole world that on May 21 God’s salvation program would be finished on that day. For the next five months, except for the elect (the true believers), the whole world is under God’s final judgment. To accomplish this goal God withheld from the true believers the way in which two phrases were to be understood. Had He not done so, the world would never have been shaken in fear as it was.”

Camping drew national attention in May with his prediction, and was said to be “a little bewildered” when it didn’t go as he’d said. Now 90, he suffered a stroke in June and has been recovering at home in Oakland, Calif.

The Family Radio website has the full text of his latest prediction.

“Thus we can be sure that the whole world, with the exception of those who are presently saved (the elect), are under the judgment of God, and will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on October 21, 2011, on the last day of the present five months period,” it says. “On that day the true believers (the elect) will be raptured. We must remember that only God knows who His elect are that He saved prior to May 21.”
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Did anyone listen to Nancy's non-sense on Coast to Coast last night? Unfortunately, it comes on two hours after I go to bed. I have a friend in AZ that tapes them...or used to. I'll have to see if he did last night's show.
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Did anyone listen to Nancy's non-sense on Coast to Coast last night? Unfortunately, it comes on two hours after I go to bed. I have a friend in AZ that tapes them...or used to. I'll have to see if he did last night's show.
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SSDD...

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Did anyone listen to Nancy's non-sense on Coast to Coast last night? Unfortunately, it comes on two hours after I go to bed. I have a friend in AZ that tapes them...or used to. I'll have to see if he did last night's show.
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I listened for a little whilc. She just launched into the usual repetition of all of her "successful predictions", which never really happened except in her own mind. I was falling asleep when questions started coming in, so I don't know if anybody who knows how/where to challenged her failures called in. She outlined the "White Lie" as covering her only date failure, but she didn't mention the "Before 2012" one, of course. I don't know if anybody called in and asked her about it. I would have.


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