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He has been saying for YEARS that a huge DATA GAP develops for the period of March 2012 through 2013
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Maybe someone is standing on the data cable.....
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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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The "Finish Line" has not yet been crossed ...
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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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The "Finish Line" has not yet been crossed ...
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Fine. IF and WHEN that finish line is crossed -- On January 1st, and NO LATER -- how many steaks do you have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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Max only owes Hap a steak. He won't do it though.
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You know what you need Max? Help. Why don't you call Nancy and see if she'll hire User back. He was really quite entertaining.

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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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The "Finish Line" has not yet been crossed ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Just 25 days to go. Really, Hap was generous to give Max until January 1st, since the bet was based on the "2012 is too far out" premise. According to Nancy's original prediction, and Max's defense of Nancy's predictions, the "passage" would be obvious to everyone long before 2012.
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True...as far as I'm concerned the finish line was crossed several months ago since "2012 was too far out." One could argue that the finish line was crossed as far back as January this year. The fact that Max has been trying to drag this out is why I believe he won't honor the agreement. If he doesn't, then he'll prove to us all what kind of "man" he really is.
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How much is it for a steak in the US? I had one on Friday and over here it goes for USD12. (about R100.)
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How much is it for a steak in the US? I had one on Friday and over here it goes for USD12. (about R100.)
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Depending on the cut - around to $30 to $50 USD at Ruth Chris (prices vary by location). That's just for the steak - doesn't include sides, drinks or appetizers.

Never been to Ruth Chris and have no intention of going there - I don't eat much red meat these days. Well, I shouldn't say no intention of going there. If someone else is picking up the tab, I'll go with no complaint.
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How much is it for a steak in the US? I had one on Friday and over here it goes for USD12. (about R100.)
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Depending on the cut - around to $30 to $50 USD at Ruth Chris (prices vary by location). That's just for the steak - doesn't include sides, drinks or appetizers.

Never been to Ruth Chris and have no intention of going there - I don't eat much red meat these days. Well, I shouldn't say no intention of going there. If someone else is picking up the tab, I'll go with no complaint.
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It's worth it at least once in your life. To have a cut of steak tender enough that you can cut it with your fork is an experience everyone should have at least once.

That it's Max paying because of a foolish wager made in support of Nancy Lieder would definitely improve the flavor of the cut as well. Might I suggest the Cowboy Bone-in Rib-eye?
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How much is it for a steak in the US? I had one on Friday and over here it goes for USD12. (about R100.)
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Depends on where you go, what kind of cut and how much it weighs. You can go to a place like Texas Roadhouse or Outback and get a good steak for less than $20 and that includes two sides. But some people don't consider those "real" steaks. I, however, think they taste just fine and don't have the budget to go to places like Ruth Chris. Maybe I'll splurge one day and give it a try to see if the steaks there are any better.
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Never had any steaks better than those ya done yaself

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There is some truth to that.
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Since it's almost winter here in the U.S., thought I'd share a humorous video shot about a mile and a half from my house on Dec 30 last year:

[link to youtu.be]

Here's the full 8 min version:
[link to youtu.be]

I especially like the dumbass at the end that apparently thought, "I have a heavy diesel truck with 4WD...I can make this." And, actually, he would have if he hadn't stopped near the top.

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You know what you need Max? Help. Why don't you call Nancy and see if she'll hire User back. He was really quite entertaining.
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I don't miss Luser at all, but maybe Max could put in a good word for elle. She was fun.

So many of Nancy's biggest defenders have disappeared. I haven't seen Soledad for ages. Freestore is MIA. Max is the only one left, and he isn't even trying to defend Nancy anymore. He has adopted Clif as his new hero.

Which bandwagon will he jump on when he gives up on Clif? Maybe Candace? Or David Wilcox? Unfortunately, for every new age chicken little doom monging scam that falls there are three that pop up in their place. I will be glad to see the end of the 2012 scam since it's so insulting to the Mayan people. But I'm sure the people making money from it will find a way to keep people hooked beyond the end of 2012. After all, some people need to cling to the hope that all the bad things and people will get wiped out and the good will magically find themselves in a better world without having to do anything themselves to make the world better.
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Ooops!

[link to usnews.msnbc.msn.com]

"Zetas" right again!

































NOT!
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You know what you need Max? Help. Why don't you call Nancy and see if she'll hire User back. He was really quite entertaining.
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I see SmileyGlas your SHAMELESS and underhanded efforts to get this thread to a 1000 pages ILLEGITIMATELY!

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True...as far as I'm concerned the finish line was crossed several months ago since "2012 was too far out." One could argue that the finish line was crossed as far back as January this year. The fact that Max has been trying to drag this out is why I believe he won't honor the agreement. If he doesn't, then he'll prove to us all what kind of "man" he really is.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I will make every effort to honor the bet. First things first, we agreed on the date the bet would be considered "resolved" - January 1st, 2012.

We never actually agreed on the length of the GRACE PERIOD needed to pay off the bet. Since one was never agreed upon, and if the terms of indebtedness were to be adjudicated in a court of law, the judge would infer a REASONABLE time period in which to pay, followed by late provisions should the grace period pass without the debt being paid.

Given the nature of the bet - not just a "steak", but indeed, my actually travelling from Illinois to South Carolina and buying Hap his steak IN PERSON: it would be reasonable to allow a few months to arrange such an "event". I would think any judge in the land would allow a grace period of at least three months to arrange and fulfill the terms of the bet. After that, some form of late penalty would be granted and allowed to accrue for each month that goes by past March that the debt remains unpaid.

I have a friend in South Carolina I'd like to visit, so I have additional reason to travel there. The problem is, I have a full time job, and am critically short of funds at the moment - so such trip might have to wait until the tax return comes in.

Consider, it will easily cost me in the neighborhood of a $1000 to actually travel to SC and purchase Hap his steak with "all the trimmings".

I don't have that kind of cash laying around.

I USED TO. When the bet was originally made, I made 30% more salary than I earn now. I was out of work for five months, and exhausted nearly all of my savings during that period. If I had to make the bet all over again, given my current financial situation, I would **NOT** have made it.

But I am a "man" of my word, so I intend to fulfill my obiligation.

I think a "reasonable" penalty is to agree to increase the value of the bottle of wine I will buy for Hap's dinner, by $50 for each month that goes past March that the debt remains outstanding.

Given that Ruth's Chris has bottles well over a $1000, that is pretty good incentive for me to pay the debt as soon as possible.

I will do my abolute BEST to pay off the bet as soon as possible.

Assuming of course Hap wins, which HASN'T happened yet. (There is still time!!!)

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sorry to hear about your misfortune. Maybe the deal could be changed so that you don't have to buy the steak in person. 1 Jan 2012 isn't far away!
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True...as far as I'm concerned the finish line was crossed several months ago since "2012 was too far out." One could argue that the finish line was crossed as far back as January this year. The fact that Max has been trying to drag this out is why I believe he won't honor the agreement. If he doesn't, then he'll prove to us all what kind of "man" he really is.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I will make every effort to honor the bet. First things first, we agreed on the date the bet would be considered "resolved" - January 1st, 2012.

We never actually agreed on the length of the GRACE PERIOD needed to pay off the bet. Since one was never agreed upon, and if the terms of indebtedness were to be adjudicated in a court of law, the judge would infer a REASONABLE time period in which to pay, followed by late provisions should the grace period pass without the debt being paid.

Given the nature of the bet - not just a "steak", but indeed, my actually travelling from Illinois to South Carolina and buying Hap his steak IN PERSON: it would be reasonable to allow a few months to arrange such an "event". I would think any judge in the land would allow a grace period of at least three months to arrange and fulfill the terms of the bet. After that, some form of late penalty would be granted and allowed to accrue for each month that goes by past March that the debt remains unpaid.

I have a friend in South Carolina I'd like to visit, so I have additional reason to travel there. The problem is, I have a full time job, and am critically short of funds at the moment - so such trip might have to wait until the tax return comes in.

Consider, it will easily cost me in the neighborhood of a $1000 to actually travel to SC and purchase Hap his steak with "all the trimmings".

I don't have that kind of cash laying around.

I USED TO. When the bet was originally made, I made 30% more salary than I earn now. I was out of work for five months, and exhausted nearly all of my savings during that period. If I had to make the bet all over again, given my current financial situation, I would **NOT** have made it.

But I am a "man" of my word, so I intend to fulfill my obiligation.

I think a "reasonable" penalty is to agree to increase the value of the bottle of wine I will buy for Hap's dinner, by $50 for each month that goes past March that the debt remains outstanding.

Given that Ruth's Chris has bottles well over a $1000, that is pretty good incentive for me to pay the debt as soon as possible.

I will do my abolute BEST to pay off the bet as soon as possible.

Assuming of course Hap wins, which HASN'T happened yet. (There is still time!!!)
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I am not one of the bet-tees (is that a word?) but I like ZM's tone here -- it seems very honorable.

Good on you, ZM.
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I will make every effort to honor the bet. First things first, we agreed on the date the bet would be considered "resolved" - January 1st, 2012.

We never actually agreed on the length of the GRACE PERIOD needed to pay off the bet. Since one was never agreed upon, and if the terms of indebtedness were to be adjudicated in a court of law, the judge would infer a REASONABLE time period in which to pay, followed by late provisions should the grace period pass without the debt being paid.

Given the nature of the bet - not just a "steak", but indeed, my actually travelling from Illinois to South Carolina and buying Hap his steak IN PERSON: it would be reasonable to allow a few months to arrange such an "event". I would think any judge in the land would allow a grace period of at least three months to arrange and fulfill the terms of the bet. After that, some form of late penalty would be granted and allowed to accrue for each month that goes by past March that the debt remains unpaid.

I have a friend in South Carolina I'd like to visit, so I have additional reason to travel there. The problem is, I have a full time job, and am critically short of funds at the moment - so such trip might have to wait until the tax return comes in.

Consider, it will easily cost me in the neighborhood of a $1000 to actually travel to SC and purchase Hap his steak with "all the trimmings".

I don't have that kind of cash laying around.

I USED TO. When the bet was originally made, I made 30% more salary than I earn now. I was out of work for five months, and exhausted nearly all of my savings during that period. If I had to make the bet all over again, given my current financial situation, I would **NOT** have made it.

But I am a "man" of my word, so I intend to fulfill my obiligation.

I think a "reasonable" penalty is to agree to increase the value of the bottle of wine I will buy for Hap's dinner, by $50 for each month that goes past March that the debt remains outstanding.

Given that Ruth's Chris has bottles well over a $1000, that is pretty good incentive for me to pay the debt as soon as possible.

I will do my abolute BEST to pay off the bet as soon as possible.

Assuming of course Hap wins, which HASN'T happened yet. (There is still time!!!)
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


That's all pretty much fine. Travel arrangements must be made, financial consideration, and so forth.

So long as, on the 1st of Jan, you concede that you lost the bet.

The logistics I leave to you and Hap, however long that may take, given circumstance.
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After that, some form of late penalty would be granted and allowed to accrue for each month that goes by past March that the debt remains unpaid.


 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


In other words, you can, and will, "delay" the payment indefinitely, while you whine about how much more has "accrued" with each passing month, modifying your excuses as needed and to suit your passing whims.

Situation normal- Maxie remains a disingenuous jagoff.
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I am not one of the bet-tees (is that a word?) but I like ZM's tone here -- it seems very honorable.

Good on you, ZM.
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Seriously? You're letting him "work" you... again?!
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That's all pretty much fine. Travel arrangements must be made, financial consideration, and so forth.

So long as, on the 1st of Jan, you concede that you lost the bet.

The logistics I leave to you and Hap, however long that may take, given circumstance.
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It will be entertaining to watch as Maxie contrives various maneuvers and machinations in order to keep from definitively conceding any such thing.
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Of course Max is waffling. The simple and cost effective solution is to send Hap a gift card to that particular restaurant, like say for $150 dollars. That should cover a nice dinner for Hap and a date.

And as for the grace period, Max has had years to prepare for this. Either he is that credulous that he really thought this day would never come, or he never had any intention of making good on his wager. I know which one I believe to be true.
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I am not one of the bet-tees (is that a word?) but I like ZM's tone here -- it seems very honorable.

Good on you, ZM.
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Seriously? You're letting him "work" you... again?!
 Quoting: Menow 1525529


Sure. It does me no harm, and despite past behavior, I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. ZM's tone *did* seem reasonable and pre-conciliatory (perhaps I invented another word?)to me, thus I typed so.

However, if his excuses continue after the 1st of January, or he doesn't concede his/Nancy's failure on that date, my tone would certainly change.

We'll see what happens.
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You know what you need Max? Help. Why don't you call Nancy and see if she'll hire User back. He was really quite entertaining.
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I see SmileyGlas your SHAMELESS and underhanded efforts to get this thread to a 1000 pages ILLEGITIMATELY!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Hmmm, thursday 8th December 2011 already......man how time has flown by.

Hmmm......what were those pathetic words again? You know the ones Spoken by Ms LIEDer and endorsed for so long by fools like the Melfster...oh that's right it goes something like this..."The year 2012 is too far out" for the predicted zetaculties geographical poleshift to occur due to the arrival of that huge rogue planet "X"!!

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I see your SHAMELESS and underhanded efforts to get this thread to a 1000 pages ILLEGITIMATELY!
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Just more baseless accusations.
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We never actually agreed on the length of the GRACE PERIOD needed to pay off the bet.
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