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Circuit Breaker

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I'm having a tough time focusing this morning. The new Clif interview with Time Monk Radio from last night will be posted sometime today AND I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
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We can't wait for his next failure either. It's entertaining watching you spin and back pedal every time it happens.
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Don't wet yourself, Max. I'm sure it will be full of fake doom and doom borrowed from more legitimate, credible and free sources. I'm sure we've heard it all before.
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I'm really surprised Max hasn't gone in to hiding in some bunker somewhere due to all the doom and gloom he buys into.
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I'm really surprised Max hasn't gone in to hiding in some bunker somewhere due to all the doom and gloom he buys into.
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I find it interesting that Max has to mold his life around the predictions of people like Nancy, Clif and others. Sounds to me like he has no personal initiative and must follow others to make his life have meaning.
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He must not get much work done constantly looking for doom...unless he truly is paid to support Nancy and Clif.
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Cool!

I've been working on getting my amateur radio station back on the air. Currently, all I have is a used Yaesu FT-100 and 80 meter dipole tuned with an LDG AT-200 Pro II Auto Tuner. It's not ideal but it works...I made contact with my hometown, San Diego, this morning on 14.295 MHz with a solid 5-9 to +10dB signal report.

I have a Zero-Five GP1040 antenna arriving on Wednesday that I hope to get 10' above the roof next weekend if the weather cooperates. The antenna is non-resonant and requires a wide range tuner to work - hence the LDG auto tuner - which also helps me tune the entire 80/75M band on the dipole. I've never used a non-resonant antenna before and I'm concerned about the losses created by the high mismatch. But I've read some technical articles that state the losses are actually negligible...around 1 dB in most cases with a match of 10:1. In other words, assuming 6 dB per "S" unit, a 1 dB loss wouldn't even be noticed at the receiving end.

I have a 2 element SteppIR yagi with one of those elements being a folded 40 meter dipole and 30 ft of tower that I'm working on getting up in the air. I want to procure another 10' of tower and a third element for the beam before putting it up...not to mention a good rotator. For a radio, I'm looking at a Yaesu FT-950...although I'd like to have an Icom IC-7600 or 7700.
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Cool!

I've been working on getting my amateur radio station back on the air. Currently, all I have is a used Yaesu FT-100 and 80 meter dipole tuned with an LDG AT-200 Pro II Auto Tuner. It's not ideal but it works...I made contact with my hometown, San Diego, this morning on 14.295 MHz with a solid 5-9 to +10dB signal report.

I have a Zero-Five GP1040 antenna arriving on Wednesday that I hope to get 10' above the roof next weekend if the weather cooperates. The antenna is non-resonant and requires a wide range tuner to work - hence the LDG auto tuner - which also helps me tune the entire 80/75M band on the dipole. I've never used a non-resonant antenna before and I'm concerned about the losses created by the high mismatch. But I've read some technical articles that state the losses are actually negligible...around 1 dB in most cases with a match of 10:1. In other words, assuming 6 dB per "S" unit, a 1 dB loss wouldn't even be noticed at the receiving end.

I have a 2 element SteppIR yagi with one of those elements being a folded 40 meter dipole and 30 ft of tower that I'm working on getting up in the air. I want to procure another 10' of tower and a third element for the beam before putting it up...not to mention a good rotator. For a radio, I'm looking at a Yaesu FT-950...although I'd like to have an Icom IC-7600 or 7700.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I suppose this will enable you to continue "working" when the internet goes down.

paidshill
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I suppose this will enable you to continue "working" when the internet goes down.

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


No...because you're the only paid shill here. User even said so...I still don't understand why he ratted you out:

paidshill

Then we have this evidence:

maxpay

Too bad ZetaTalk is a sinking ship...

sinking

Which explains why you jumped over to Clif. Tell us, did you have to interview for your position? Or was your experience supporting Nancy all that was needed to get you hired?

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Nice C.B.

some reasonable kit there

I havent noticed a major problem with non resonant antenna myself, my current `bit o wet string' (almost literally) is a 25m long longwire about 6 ft off the ground...

(in fact its one wire in the block of units clothshoist)

got plastic coated wires on tubular steel supports, I double check eack time to ensure its floating and not earthed out to the supports anywhere with a multimeter, if ok then run a wire from the tuner (manual kenwood at-230) and fire up

I usually am 2 points down compared to a lucky amateur on the other side of town with a 3 element cubical quad up 50ft

the joys of apartment living...
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I had an Icom IC-746 that I sold after we got to Colorado Springs. We were living in a town house where I couldn't do any kind of operating and, since I wasn't working at the time, figured the money I got from selling it could be used to take care of other things. Now I wish I had held onto it.
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I've lived on and off in town over the years, always hung onto the TS180S come hell or highwater, in fact I found one place was almost perfect. On the top story of a 8 story block of flats, couldn't go fishing due to lack of nearby water to fish in, found an alternate use for my big surf rod...

I wound enough wire onto the big reel to stop about 15ft off the ground and when I wanted to get on air, drop it off the balcony...

Usually where theres a will theres a way, my biggest was a 3km long longwire using some powerline cables the electric company left on my property (finders keepers, losers weepers- my land, its mine :-P )and the neighbours bulldozer. Tied one end off to a suitably reinforced gum tree (anchored off to several others) then drove straight down my hill, across the valley and straight up the next hill, dragging the reels behind me. Ended up with a 3km long highwire higest point was about 200ft above the valley floor

from scraps of left over building wire and coathangers on 70cm to massive antennas, had a few diferent types over the years- one of the reasons I always laughed at nancys delusions of getting onto shortwave- every time she opened her mouth on the subject it was obvious she didn't have a clue
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I've lived on and off in town over the years, always hung onto the TS180S come hell or highwater, in fact I found one place was almost perfect. On the top story of a 8 story block of flats, couldn't go fishing due to lack of nearby water to fish in, found an alternate use for my big surf rod...

I wound enough wire onto the big reel to stop about 15ft off the ground and when I wanted to get on air, drop it off the balcony...

Usually where theres a will theres a way, my biggest was a 3km long longwire using some powerline cables the electric company left on my property (finders keepers, losers weepers- my land, its mine :-P )and the neighbours bulldozer. Tied one end off to a suitably reinforced gum tree (anchored off to several others) then drove straight down my hill, across the valley and straight up the next hill, dragging the reels behind me. Ended up with a 3km long highwire higest point was about 200ft above the valley floor

from scraps of left over building wire and coathangers on 70cm to massive antennas, had a few diferent types over the years- one of the reasons I always laughed at nancys delusions of getting onto shortwave- every time she opened her mouth on the subject it was obvious she didn't have a clue
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Speaking of which...I wonder how her big amateur radio/shortwave station is coming along.
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I tried the database at QRZ...no listing for Lieder. Maybe I should do a search for woo-woo, nut job or Zeta.
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12/12/2011 07:15 AM
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19 days to the end of the year!
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But remember, folks. 2012 is too far out. That's a whole lotta doom coming crammed into 19 days. But seriously, even Nancy doesn't believe her schtick. After so many failures realized that giving dates is not smart. Now she has adopted the "we will give no dates" approach. She even said that we might not even notice the passage, just in case nothing at all happens so I wonder what was the point of getting people to donate and scaring them with uber doom since 1995? What was the point of putting her dog down? That poor thing would have been almost 10 by now.
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But remember, folks. 2012 is too far out. That's a whole lotta doom coming crammed into 19 days. But seriously, even Nancy doesn't believe her schtick. After so many failures realized that giving dates is not smart. Now she has adopted the "we will give no dates" approach. She even said that we might not even notice the passage, just in case nothing at all happens so I wonder what was the point of getting people to donate and scaring them with uber doom since 1995? What was the point of putting her dog down? That poor thing would have been almost 10 by now.
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FINALLY!!! Clif's latest interview is posted.

ENJOY!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]
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I had an Icom IC-746 that I sold after we got to Colorado Springs. We were living in a town house where I couldn't do any kind of operating and, since I wasn't working at the time, figured the money I got from selling it could be used to take care of other things. Now I wish I had held onto it.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Just added a new Icom IC-9100 to the shack.

Hap
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How many steaks does Max have to buy? How many people agreed to the bet?
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The "Finish Line" has not yet been crossed ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Just 25 days to go. Really, Hap was generous to give Max until January 1st, since the bet was based on the "2012 is too far out" premise. According to Nancy's original prediction, and Max's defense of Nancy's predictions, the "passage" would be obvious to everyone long before 2012.
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Yes, and remember that she stated that px would be "undeniable in the sky" MONTHS before the end of 2011.

Max, how'd THAT go for ya?
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I don't know about everyone else, but once 2012 arrives I will ignore Max until Hap has received his steak and publicly admitted that Nancy was wrong about everything. Just man up and send him a gift card, Max. I am looking forward to witnessing Nancy's ultimate fail.
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I **did** offer to send him a gift card - and he responded that he'd rather the bet be fulfilled with me buying it in person - in South Carolina.

So - unless he responds otherwise, I have to assume that the debt will remain unpaid until I travel to SC and buy him that steak "in person".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Max, undoubtedly, your admitting that you were wrong and were misled by Nancy is the major thing that most here are looking for. As for your financial situation, sure, I was looking to meet you in person to see the kind of person who is so naive and gullible as to fall for such foolishness, but I will accept a $150 gift certificate to Ruth's Chris steakhouse in Columbia, SC in lieu of a personal meeting. Letting you completely off the hook is not in the cards, though, since YOU made the bet. Your public admission on this thread of your and Nancy's failure along with the gift certificate will be considered debt paid in full.
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FINALLY!!! Clif's latest interview is posted.

ENJOY!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]
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No thanks. I have better things to do.
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I had an Icom IC-746 that I sold after we got to Colorado Springs. We were living in a town house where I couldn't do any kind of operating and, since I wasn't working at the time, figured the money I got from selling it could be used to take care of other things. Now I wish I had held onto it.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Just added a new Icom IC-9100 to the shack.

Hap
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I've thought about a 9100 since I helped put a D-Star machine up on Cheyenne Mtn. I didn't even know you were licensed, Hap. The one thing I don't like about the IC-9100 is the blue on white display and lack of full time spectrum scope. But I do like that it covers everything!
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Anyone have any suggestions on how to tie off the ends of a dipole? I used rope to tie one leg to a fence post and the other leg to a tree branch. Came home this evening to find the leg tied to the fence post on the ground and the rope either gnawed through by a squirrel or intentionally cut by one of my neighbors.
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But remember, folks. 2012 is too far out. That's a whole lotta doom coming crammed into 19 days. But seriously, even Nancy doesn't believe her schtick. After so many failures realized that giving dates is not smart. Now she has adopted the "we will give no dates" approach. She even said that we might not even notice the passage, just in case nothing at all happens so I wonder what was the point of getting people to donate and scaring them with uber doom since 1995? What was the point of putting her dog down? That poor thing would have been almost 10 by now.
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FINALLY!!! Clif's latest interview is posted.

ENJOY!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


And what does this have to do with what I posted and you quoted. Did I even mention Clif? Why do you insist on avoiding any mention of Nancy's failures and hiding behind your latest doom god? Are you trying to throw the attention off Nancy to avoid paying your bet?
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I had an Icom IC-746 that I sold after we got to Colorado Springs. We were living in a town house where I couldn't do any kind of operating and, since I wasn't working at the time, figured the money I got from selling it could be used to take care of other things. Now I wish I had held onto it.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Just added a new Icom IC-9100 to the shack.

Hap
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I've thought about a 9100 since I helped put a D-Star machine up on Cheyenne Mtn. I didn't even know you were licensed, Hap. The one thing I don't like about the IC-9100 is the blue on white display and lack of full time spectrum scope. But I do like that it covers everything!
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I gave up when I sold the house back in 2001 to the city for use as park land. I regretted pulling down the 40' Rohn tower and the Mosley five-band antenna (used the Merc to do that). Had no other way to do it and no one wanted to come out and take the antenna down (I was giving the thing away). Turned it all into scrap steel and aluminum. Oh well...

Used to run a Yaesu FT-890 and upgraded to a FT-760 with 2m and 440. Unfortunately, have no place to run a rig (living in a rented condo in FL while I work a DOD contract gig). Sold all the equipment a while back.

I still have my license - KC5***.
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...as for Nancy's supposed short wave project - it went no where. Money wasted probably on one of her other projects (i.e., diverted from it's original purpose).

As if she thought that she could recreate the internet using packet radio. Hah!

KC5***
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FINALLY!!! Clif's latest interview is posted.

ENJOY!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


No thanks. I have better things to do.
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+1
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Only 18 days to go to the end of the year!
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And no sign of "Planet X" anywhere.
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