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They are going through another round of scaring people into leaving their homes on the ning.

"What would you do if you would be living in the red areas of Europe?"

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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WARNING WARNING!!!! Illuminati trying to suppress the latest scientific knowledge that can make us true masters of the universe:




Earthquakes, Solar Flares and all sorts of stuff are all because of Hyperesonancy theory this is the only important science for us on earth!! all life vibrates and everything in nature to, and we now know that nothing is by chance, we have precise mathematical equations to describe this!

It comes from scientist who discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ earthquakes.

His name is Dr. Omerbashich and American goverment stole his patents and threatened his life! We come from the same country :)

His site:
[link to seismo.info]


Scroll in the top images a few sections left or right for his hyperesonancy equations -- He cancels Einstein and Newton with these equations, US Gov stole his patents and sent SWAT teams to harass this scientist, police pulled him over 100s times at gunpoint, banksters elite keep visiting his site to get info which makes it easy for them to bet on insurance markets as Omerbashich tells when there will be NO killing quakes which is more than half year of safe betting for this scumbags:

WELLS FARGO, NATL COMMERCIAL BANK OF SAUDI ARABIA, ROYAL BANK OF CANADA, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS, EATON CORP, CITICORP, CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE, METLIFE, NEWMONT GOLD CO, BANCA FIDAURAM, ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TORONTO DOMINION BANK, BARCLAYS CAPITAL, BANCO BRADESCO, INTERAMERICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK, CHEVRON CORP, PERSHING CORP, PETROBRAS,BANK OF AMERICA, ZURICH AMERICAN INSURANCE CO, VISA INTERNATIONL, CREDIT SUISSE GROUP, BROWN BROS HARRIMAN, PICTET CIE, ENI, INTESA SISTEMI, FORRESTER-BRIM,SAUDI ARABIAN OIL CO. ,AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL, CAMBRIDGE ASSOCAITES.... ( this list is not final,credit: inventor's blog [link to sites.google.com] )

Obviously they not undeducated, they all went to ivy league schools and represent cream de la cream of world finances ohyeah


His interview:
[link to yowusa.com]
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WARNING WARNING!!!! Illuminati trying to suppress the latest scientific knowledge that can make us true masters of the universe:




Earthquakes, Solar Flares and all sorts of stuff are all because of Hyperesonancy theory this is the only important science for us on earth!! all life vibrates and everything in nature to, and we now know that nothing is by chance, we have precise mathematical equations to describe this!

It comes from scientist who discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ earthquakes.

His name is Dr. Omerbashich and American goverment stole his patents and threatened his life! We come from the same country :)

His site:
[link to seismo.info]


Scroll in the top images a few sections left or right for his hyperesonancy equations -- He cancels Einstein and Newton with these equations, US Gov stole his patents and sent SWAT teams to harass this scientist, police pulled him over 100s times at gunpoint, banksters elite keep visiting his site to get info which makes it easy for them to bet on insurance markets as Omerbashich tells when there will be NO killing quakes which is more than half year of safe betting for this scumbags:

WELLS FARGO, NATL COMMERCIAL BANK OF SAUDI ARABIA, ROYAL BANK OF CANADA, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS, EATON CORP, CITICORP, CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE, METLIFE, NEWMONT GOLD CO, BANCA FIDAURAM, ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TORONTO DOMINION BANK, BARCLAYS CAPITAL, BANCO BRADESCO, INTERAMERICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK, CHEVRON CORP, PERSHING CORP, PETROBRAS,BANK OF AMERICA, ZURICH AMERICAN INSURANCE CO, VISA INTERNATIONL, CREDIT SUISSE GROUP, BROWN BROS HARRIMAN, PICTET CIE, ENI, INTESA SISTEMI, FORRESTER-BRIM,SAUDI ARABIAN OIL CO. ,AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL, CAMBRIDGE ASSOCAITES.... ( this list is not final,credit: inventor's blog [link to sites.google.com] )

Obviously they not undeducated, they all went to ivy league schools and represent cream de la cream of world finances ohyeah


His interview:
[link to yowusa.com]
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thanks_s
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WARNING WARNING!!!! Illuminati trying to suppress the latest scientific knowledge that can make us true masters of the universe:




Earthquakes, Solar Flares and all sorts of stuff are all because of Hyperesonancy theory this is the only important science for us on earth!! all life vibrates and everything in nature to, and we now know that nothing is by chance, we have precise mathematical equations to describe this!

It comes from scientist who discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ earthquakes.

His name is Dr. Omerbashich and American goverment stole his patents and threatened his life! We come from the same country :)

His site:
[link to seismo.info]


Scroll in the top images a few sections left or right for his hyperesonancy equations -- He cancels Einstein and Newton with these equations, US Gov stole his patents and sent SWAT teams to harass this scientist, police pulled him over 100s times at gunpoint, banksters elite keep visiting his site to get info which makes it easy for them to bet on insurance markets as Omerbashich tells when there will be NO killing quakes which is more than half year of safe betting for this scumbags:

WELLS FARGO, NATL COMMERCIAL BANK OF SAUDI ARABIA, ROYAL BANK OF CANADA, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS, EATON CORP, CITICORP, CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE, METLIFE, NEWMONT GOLD CO, BANCA FIDAURAM, ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TORONTO DOMINION BANK, BARCLAYS CAPITAL, BANCO BRADESCO, INTERAMERICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK, CHEVRON CORP, PERSHING CORP, PETROBRAS,BANK OF AMERICA, ZURICH AMERICAN INSURANCE CO, VISA INTERNATIONL, CREDIT SUISSE GROUP, BROWN BROS HARRIMAN, PICTET CIE, ENI, INTESA SISTEMI, FORRESTER-BRIM,SAUDI ARABIAN OIL CO. ,AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL, CAMBRIDGE ASSOCAITES.... ( this list is not final,credit: inventor's blog [link to sites.google.com] )

Obviously they not undeducated, they all went to ivy league schools and represent cream de la cream of world finances ohyeah


His interview:
[link to yowusa.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4425332


YAWNS

same old fraud that had `massive earthquakes, huge tidal waves etc etc etc with comet Elenin...'

Is as `reliable' as nancy and her 2003 `dooooom...'

didnt happen for her and didnt happen for him, both now frantically denying their respective `dooooms' to bring up (yet ANOTHER) day of DOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM.......


yawns again

boring old shitte we all have heard before (and I dare say will hear again..

0/5 for you
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WARNING WARNING!!!! Illuminati trying to suppress the latest scientific knowledge that can make us true masters of the universe:

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It was CRAP when you posted it this morning and it's STILL crap.

But thanks for the bump.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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I seriously doubt I'll get you on 2m me thinks (ducting and multihops dont seem to get quite that far...

but I'll keep an ear open whenever the hf opens up stateside

(forgive me if I'd rather not put my callsign out here- aussie `hams' are relatively rare and with our addresses published, I'd rather not put my fullcall out in this particular forum...)

IF you happen to hear a VK2 calling from vk3 land (queensland) that might possibly be me...

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There's always EchoLink...although not quite the same thing.
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I know some that use echolink all the time, hardly ever hear them actually on air...
not really in the spirit of things is my personal opinion
(besides which I am on a fairly restricted plan both speedwise and data amounts, streaming can kill my entire months limit in a few days)

:-(
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They are going through another round of scaring people into leaving their homes on the ning.

"What would you do if you would be living in the red areas of Europe?"

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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What doom are they predicting now?
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are they trying to SHIFT the focus from the failed predictions for Indonesia to Europe now?
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I see she is already latching onto the recent storms in southern Qld (shame there were some much bigger ones in northern Qld, but as that area is vary sparsely populated only the locals know about that LOL)

`doom, death, destruction' flooding in Queensland again `proving her right'
sighs almost exactly twelve months after the last lot of flooding.... You could almost be tricked into believing that its the beginning of the summer wetseason here couldn't you
(except nancy knows `better' of course)

stupid old woman, doesnt say much about the intelligence of some people that they actually believe this crud...

:-(
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WARNING! Elites trying to suppress the greatest scientific discovery in 1000 years:




Earthquakes, Solar Flares and all sorts of stuff are all because of Hyperesonancy theory this is the only important science for us on earth!! all life vibrates and everything in nature to, and we now know that nothing is by chance, we have precise mathematical equations to describe this, which are accurate to 39 decimal places!

It comes from a Bosnian scientist who discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ earthquakes. His name is Dr. Omerbashich and American goverment stole his patents and threatened his life! We come from the same country :)

His site:
[link to seismo.info]


Scroll in the top images a few sections left or right for his hyperesonancy equations -- He cancels Einstein and Newton with these equations, US Gov stole his patents and sent SWAT teams to harass this scientist, police pulled him over 100s times at gunpoint, banksters elite keep visiting his site to get info which makes it easy for them to bet on insurance markets as Omerbashich tells when there will be NO killing quakes which is more than half year of safe betting for this scumbags:

WELLS FARGO, NATL COMMERCIAL BANK OF SAUDI ARABIA, ROYAL BANK OF CANADA, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS, EATON CORP, CITICORP, CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE, METLIFE, NEWMONT GOLD CO, BANCA FIDAURAM, ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TORONTO DOMINION BANK, BARCLAYS CAPITAL, BANCO BRADESCO, INTERAMERICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK, CHEVRON CORP, PERSHING CORP, PETROBRAS,BANK OF AMERICA, ZURICH AMERICAN INSURANCE CO, VISA INTERNATIONL, CREDIT SUISSE GROUP, BROWN BROS HARRIMAN, PICTET CIE, ENI, INTESA SISTEMI, FORRESTER-BRIM,SAUDI ARABIAN OIL CO. ,AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL, CAMBRIDGE ASSOCAITES.... ( this list is not final,credit: inventor's blog [link to sites.google.com] )

Obviously they not undeducated, they all went to ivy league schools and represent cream de la cream of world finances ohyeah


His interview:
[link to yowusa.com]


THEORY -- Check! "Your hyperresonator equations also challenge the validity of Einstein's General Relativity theory and Planck's Quantum Physics. As a former geologist for the Berkeley National Laboratory in California and the Geophysics Institute of Hungary in Budapest, how have your peers responded to your hyperresonator equations?
- Hyperresonator equations do not simply challenge, but immediately invalidate both Einstein's General Relativity and Planck's Quantum Physics theory as fundamentally flawed. Newton’s assumption on constancy of G, and the faked "physical units" he attached thereupon to G only in order to close his theory physically as well as mathematically, have made his theory obviously flawed to begin with. By accepting this fundamental flaw, Einstein made his own theory of general relativity a mere alternative (Riemannian-geometry) description of the Newton’s theory. Adding a new member into the Newton’s equation in order to account for higher order terms has not changed the elementary flaw, as Einstein never altered G. There are no physical units in the hyperresonator equations – just proportions and scales, that is, all quantities are either unitless, or they carry derived units only. And, as I already mentioned, there is no explicit dependency on time or space or time-space, meaning the equations describe a fundamental principle. " - Mensru Omerbashich [link to yowusa.com]

EQUATIONS -- Check! "ONLY MORONS FIGHT EQUATION/FACTS WHERE LEFT AND RIGHT HAND-SIDES ARE EQUAL, PERIOD" - Mensur Omerbashich [link to site.google.com]
These Are Accurate To 39 Decimal Places!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FORECAST -- Check! "NEGATIVE 100% EARTHQUAKE FORECAST NOW REALITY" - Mensur Omerbashich [link to sites.google.com]
You Can See Month After Month Precise Forecast Here:
[link to seismo.info]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4425332


YAWNS

same old fraud that had `massive earthquakes, huge tidal waves etc etc etc with comet Elenin...'

Is as `reliable' as nancy and her 2003 `dooooom...'

didnt happen for her and didnt happen for him, both now frantically denying their respective `dooooms' to bring up (yet ANOTHER) day of DOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM.......


yawns again

boring old shitte we all have heard before (and I dare say will hear again..

0/5 for you
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Why Oh Why...

do I find it `not at all strange'

that our bosnian friend who seems to be madly in love with Mensur Omerbashich

when it is looked into further...

Mensur Omerbashich is involved with the bosnian pyramids

surprise surprise

(for those who havent heard of these previously)

The bosnian pyramids are `supposed' prehistoric pyramids,predating humans leaving Africain most cases, and some of the more fanciful claims having them built proir to humans being around...

With many fancyful claims made by a small number of charlatins who have turned a couple of vaguely pyramid shaped hills (very vague indeed when you look at the arial views) into a multi million dollar get rich scheme for themselves

`Actual' archeologists have been on site and not one thing they claim actually is close to the truth, plus they have now been busted faking `discoverys' to boot

The fact that `Mensur Omerbashich' is involved in this scam doesnt surprise me in the least, and his website certainly supports the idea that he is in it `for the $$$'

Colour me surprised... NOT...
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Earthquakes and all sorts of stuff are all because of Hyperesonancy theory this is the only important science for us on earth!! All life and everything in nature vibrates and we now know how and guess what: its not by chance, there are precise mathematical equations to describe it!

It comes from scientist who discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ earthquakes.

His name is Dr. Omerbashich and American goverment stole his patents and threatened his life! We come from the same country :)

His site:
[link to seismo.info]


Scroll in the top images a few sections left or right for his hyperesonancy equations -- He cancels Einstein and Newton with these equations, US Gov stole his patents and sent SWAT teams to harass this scientist, police pulled him over 100s times at gunpoint, banksters elite keep visiting his site to get info which makes it easy for them to bet on insurance markets as Omerbashich tells when there will be NO killing quakes which is more than half year of safe betting for this scumbags:

WELLS FARGO, NATL COMMERCIAL BANK OF SAUDI ARABIA, ROYAL BANK OF CANADA, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS, EATON CORP, CITICORP, CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE, METLIFE, NEWMONT GOLD CO, BANCA FIDAURAM, ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TORONTO DOMINION BANK, BARCLAYS CAPITAL, BANCO BRADESCO, INTERAMERICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK, CHEVRON CORP, PERSHING CORP, PETROBRAS,BANK OF AMERICA, ZURICH AMERICAN INSURANCE CO, VISA INTERNATIONL, CREDIT SUISSE GROUP, BROWN BROS HARRIMAN, PICTET CIE, ENI, INTESA SISTEMI, FORRESTER-BRIM,SAUDI ARABIAN OIL CO. ,AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL, CAMBRIDGE ASSOCAITES.... ( this list is not final,credit: inventor's blog [link to sites.google.com] )

Obviously they not undeducated, they all went to ivy league schools and represent cream de la cream of world finances ohyeah


His interview:
[link to yowusa.com]
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[link to rationalwiki.org]

He's a crank of the first order.
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Tomorrow I'll be putting my HF vertical antenna. Can't wait. Then, sometime after the first of the year, I'll be getting a Yaesu FT-950...although I might look for a used Icom IC-746Pro because it has 2M and there's some SSB operations taking place here...I've talked to a guy in Cheyenne, WY frequently...a distance of roughly 170 miles...with just 50 watts into a 4 element beam. I like the Yaesu FT-950 and it has quite a few accessories I could get for it like the DMU-2000 that includes a panadapter display of the HF spectrum. I could just keep using my FT-100 for weak signal work on VHF/UHF.
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I seriously doubt I'll get you on 2m me thinks (ducting and multihops dont seem to get quite that far...

but I'll keep an ear open whenever the hf opens up stateside

(forgive me if I'd rather not put my callsign out here- aussie `hams' are relatively rare and with our addresses published, I'd rather not put my fullcall out in this particular forum...)

IF you happen to hear a VK2 calling from vk3 land (queensland) that might possibly be me...

;-)
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I'm tempted to get another rig if I could get away with putting an antenna on the condo's balcony. I could definitely put up a rig in my house in far south Florida - no HOA to deal with and it's out in the sticks on an acre of land with only six neighbors to deal with on my half-mile long street.

Time to see what's available from Yaesu (I'm not a Kenwood or ICOM fan). If some day you hear a KC5 calling from region 4, it might be me.
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Tik, tok, tik, tok.

Time is running out.


Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.
1128 days gone, 18 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012)
Nancy backpedalled first on July4th, 2009. ("Nancy-the Zetas made good use of the White lie,in May 2003. Could this work again in present time to confuse the TPTB??") -"SOZT This is within the realm of possibility. EOZT"
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 4 (Page 5)
Nancy backpedalled second at July 18, 2009." As we have stated repeatedly, almost weekly, we will give NO indication of a timeline. "
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 18 (Page 2)
Discussionthread about previous link ;-)
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Nancy backpedalled third at August 22, 2009. "NO time frame details can be relayed, period. But…... " (p 3), (White lie again) Nancytalk "this was admitted as entirely plausible in a recent chat. Check the chat archives", "Sattelite move whithin atmosphere" (somewhere),
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat August 22 (Page 3)
Nancy backpedalled fourt at 5th Spt 09, SOZT ….It is still theoretically possible for a passage to cause nothing more than high tides and strong earthquakes…." EOZT, p3
Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 5 (Page 5)


this needs a bump

ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for December 17, 2011

NASA attacks Nancy again! Comment, please. [and from another] [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Yeomans noted that well-known UFO aficionado Nancy Leider, who describes herself as being in contact with aliens from the star system Zeta Reticuli, first said Nibiru would cause widespread disaster in May 2003, only to later change her prediction to Dec. 21, 2012. [and from another] [link to astrobiology.nasa.gov] Then Nancy Lieder, a self-declared psychic who claims she is channeling aliens, wrote on her website Zetatalk that the inhabitants of a fictional planet around the star Zeta Reticuli warned her that the Earth was in danger from Planet X or Nibiru. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012.

Don't the folks at NASA read? Dick Morrison and Don Yeomans are senior folk at NASA! They are well acquainted with Nancy from the days when she debated astronomers on sci.astro in 1997 to 2003. Nancy's name is mentioned at NASA amid gritting teeth and stomach acid, such is their rage at ZetaTalk and their frustration at not being able to eliminate the message. The ZetaTalk posture re the December 21, 2012 date being the accurate portrayal of the Mayan Calendar end date is well known. One of Nancy's very first newsletters in early 2007 featured the issue, titled "Questioning 2012". Nancy has had a video in her YouTube list on the matter since 2008. Putting "2012" into the dedicated search engine brings all this up on page one.

So it is not a secret, nor is NASA that dumb and insulated that they are not aware of the ZetaTalk message on the matter. How could they possibly get it wrong? This is, of course, a deliberate act, a campaign to discredit and confuse the public. The arrogant leaders at NASA assume that the public will not research the ZetaTalk website but will listen slavishly to whatever NASA puts out. Where this might be true of many, those among the public who are independent thinkers have already arrived at a quite different conclusion.

What the public sees is the Sun in the wrong place, the Moon out of place, and signs in the skies while NASA remains silent. They are aware of decades of denial on UFOs filmed zipping around the ISS, and contorted explanations on what was found on the Moon. Astronauts have come forward with the truth, contradicting NASA's stance. NASA's attempts to edit the SOHO and Stereo images and alter their archives to disguise the presence of the Planet X complex is so well documented on the ZetaTalk website and on message boards such as the Pole Shift ning that newcomers to the issue quickly realize that NASA has been lying.

If NASA is lying on all these other matters, then what is the public to assume in their lies about Nancy Lieder? The claim that ZetaTalk states the passage will occur in 2012 may be a mistake the first time, but made twice, by two separate individuals, it is a pattern. And in both cases they mentioned Nancy Lieder by name. They have shot themselves in the foot, once again. They have in essence picked up a megaphone and announced to the world that Nancy Lieder is telling the truth! Go to ZetaTalk for the truth, as we all know that NASA lies! We wish to thank NASA for this free publicity!

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sorry and the link
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doh [link to www.zetatalk.com]
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also this on same link

in the past, the Zetas have said that the 12/21/2012 date is the "approved" date put forward by the power/wealthy elite. They say that this date is after the actual Pole Shift, and that the elite have used that date so that they can move about freely to their bunkers while the common man is thinking the date is farther out. I have a couple questions about this. One, this would seem to imply that the elite know the date of the PS. But the Zetas have also said that the elite have no idea what the date is. That's why they have so many satellites, etc, trying to track PX (futile-ly). Can the Zetas clarify this? Two, after Nancy's ZetaTalk goes mainstream, it seems most people will at least get an understanding of the last weeks and know the things to watch for. If that is the case, any talk of a date will be irrelevant when the 3 days of darkness hit. This would make "approving" a PS date a moot effort. Are the elite really that foolish to push a meaningless date? Three, when the 2012 date is discussed in mainstream media, it is usually debunked. Why would the elites debunk their own "approved" date? They have not been crafty enough to use reverse psychology in their other efforts. So it seems odd. Just to be clear, I am not asking for the date of the PS. Rather, more clarity on previous statements.

When 2012 became the establishment approved date for End Times hysteria, it was far in the future. They wanted to point far enough into the future that the common man would be placated and not feel they needed to rush to prepare. Preparing would mean key people leaving jobs they had been trained to perform, resulting in an increase in industry costs and perhaps infrastructure downtime. Preparing would mean people pulling their savings out of banks, resulting in increased bank instability. Preparing would mean home owners deserting their mortgages at a time when the banking and real estate industries are already swamped with empty homes.

The establishment does not have the passage date - neither the trimester nor the year. But they are crystal clear on what they do know - they want the common man dumb and happy until the last minute. For the establishment this is the Last Weeks, when the wobble will be so severe, a stopped rotation so obvious, that the common man can no longer be fooled. What will they do now that 2012 is no longer in the future. Certainly the establishment does not want the common man suddenly becoming nervous, so they are ridiculing those they formerly encouraged. The establishment is caught in their own trap. As the 7 of 10 scenarios unfold, during 2012, the common man is likely to be doubly nervous about the End Times. Once again karma strikes!
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13 days to the end of the year....
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Old nancy herself was the first one to use the 2012 date when 2003 mysteriously passed with nary a extra planet in sight...

In fact it was her statement that 2012 was too far out


That was fine back in 2003 when she first used it, but as 2012 rapidly approached, so did the backpedaling (known by most as `white lie 2')

Sadly nancy herself was the one that first latched onto it, but now with 2012 now literally days away, and the great failure of the 2010 `7 of 10' turning out to be more of a `1 of 10' instead debacle still ringing in her ears, having to invent more and more preposterous stories to cover up the total lack of anything actually happening in the real world, her desperation is geting more and more extreme.

Plus the virtual sinking of zetababble from public view (look at her alexa rating) and her own retreat to the virtually unheard ning,of outside of her and the debunkers and a handful of metally challenged followers

Estimated percentage of global internet users who visit zetatalk.com:
Reach Change
7 day 0.0012 -6% Change in Reach over the trailing 7 day period
1 month 0.00137 -28% Change in Reach over the trailing 1 month period
3 month 0.00182 -26% Change in Reach over the trailing 3 month period

glug glug glug, down they go... to disappear without a trace
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13 days to the end of the year....
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>> As the 7 of 10 scenarios unfold, during 2012, the common man is likely to be doubly nervous about the End Times.

Scared?

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are they trying to SHIFT the focus from the failed predictions for Indonesia to Europe now?
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Clif said that NOTHING of any significant importance will happen in the months of January and February 2012.

I think he's ON TRACK to be be RIGHT!!!
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I'm tempted to get another rig if I could get away with putting an antenna on the condo's balcony. I could definitely put up a rig in my house in far south Florida - no HOA to deal with and it's out in the sticks on an acre of land with only six neighbors to deal with on my half-mile long street.

Time to see what's available from Yaesu (I'm not a Kenwood or ICOM fan). If some day you hear a KC5 calling from region 4, it might be me.
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I got the vertical up yesterday. The antenna goes together easily enough but it took the rest of the day to get the tripod installed and get everything guyed. Unfortunately, I think the antenna SUCKS. I have RF feedback that causes my computer monitor to shut off when I transmit and the feedback is also causing distorted audio. I can try installing a choke balun at the feedpoint of the antenna, but that won't do anything about the S-8 to S-9 noise level I have. The 80M dipole I was using had a much lower noise level...and, from what I can tell, received signal strengths were about the same based on a station in Salida that I've talked to.
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also this on same link

in the past, the Zetas have said that the 12/21/2012 date is the "approved" date put forward by the power/wealthy elite. They say that this date is after the actual Pole Shift, and that the elite have used that date so that they can move about freely to their bunkers while the common man is thinking the date is farther out. I have a couple questions about this. One, this would seem to imply that the elite know the date of the PS. But the Zetas have also said that the elite have no idea what the date is. That's why they have so many satellites, etc, trying to track PX (futile-ly). Can the Zetas clarify this? Two, after Nancy's ZetaTalk goes mainstream, it seems most people will at least get an understanding of the last weeks and know the things to watch for. If that is the case, any talk of a date will be irrelevant when the 3 days of darkness hit. This would make "approving" a PS date a moot effort. Are the elite really that foolish to push a meaningless date? Three, when the 2012 date is discussed in mainstream media, it is usually debunked. Why would the elites debunk their own "approved" date? They have not been crafty enough to use reverse psychology in their other efforts. So it seems odd. Just to be clear, I am not asking for the date of the PS. Rather, more clarity on previous statements.

When 2012 became the establishment approved date for End Times hysteria, it was far in the future. They wanted to point far enough into the future that the common man would be placated and not feel they needed to rush to prepare. Preparing would mean key people leaving jobs they had been trained to perform, resulting in an increase in industry costs and perhaps infrastructure downtime. Preparing would mean people pulling their savings out of banks, resulting in increased bank instability. Preparing would mean home owners deserting their mortgages at a time when the banking and real estate industries are already swamped with empty homes.

The establishment does not have the passage date - neither the trimester nor the year. But they are crystal clear on what they do know - they want the common man dumb and happy until the last minute. For the establishment this is the Last Weeks, when the wobble will be so severe, a stopped rotation so obvious, that the common man can no longer be fooled. What will they do now that 2012 is no longer in the future. Certainly the establishment does not want the common man suddenly becoming nervous, so they are ridiculing those they formerly encouraged. The establishment is caught in their own trap. As the 7 of 10 scenarios unfold, during 2012, the common man is likely to be doubly nervous about the End Times. Once again karma strikes!

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So, basically, when 2013 arrives with no "Planet X" and no "pole shift" she'll have a shit load of explaining to do...again!

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Scared?
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Nope...she and Clif have been wrong so many times there's no reason to believe they'll be right now or anytime in the future.

Gullible much?
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I think he's ON TRACK to be be RIGHT!!!
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Shit, we've been telling you for quite some time there won't be any doom. And we've been right since 2003! Clif? Not so much.
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Shit. If Clif says nothing happens in January and February, then statistically it means we should expect him to be wrong as usual. Time to run for the hills. LOL!

So how is that going to play out?

First possibility is that nothing of note happens in January and February. Max will be crowing that Clif was right, but he won't give debunkers credit for being right since before this thread started;

The second scenario is that something doomy happens between now and February, like a worldwide economic meltdown, a devastating quake, and Max will be here making excuses and still claiming Clif was right. Of course, by then, Clif will be scrambling to cover his ass with new predictions or digging up old ones that might fit the situation, claiming the prediction was right but the timing was off.

The thing that probably won't change either way is that Max will continue to be a regular paying customer buying the reports and advertising them to others.
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13 days to the end of the year....
 Quoting: walt


>> As the 7 of 10 scenarios unfold, during 2012, the common man is likely to be doubly nervous about the End Times.

Scared?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**



Nancy likes to change her story, initially the 7 of 10 was going to happen in the first few weeks of 2011, so now she has moved it a year out? Not going to happen in 2012 either...LOL!
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Actually, she has been claiming the 7 of 10 would be undeniable to all even longer than that. First it was the Christmas of 2008, when we would have our last normal Christmas. When that didn't happen she extended it to include the whole "trimester" (a term she still doesn't understand) and when April came and went without doom, she started predicting the 7 of 10 for the winter of 2009, then 2010, and now, even though 2012 was supposed to be too far out, she says to expect it in 2012. I thought last year the "sinking of Indonesia" and the "tilting of the Australian plate" were Nancy's evidence that the 7 of 10 had arrived. She can't keep her own shit straight. Luckily for her she and Gertard have universal ban powers in the event that one of the captive flock should bring any of that up.
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I thought last year the "sinking of Indonesia" and the "tilting of the Australian plate" were Nancy's evidence that the 7 of 10 had arrived. She can't keep her own shit straight. Luckily for her she and Gertard have universal ban powers in the event that one of the captive flock should bring any of that up.
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I'm surprised that her followers can't even remember that she said Indonesia would be under 80 feet of water by the end of Jan 2011. That clearly hasn't happened. Can't they think for themselves and see through the BS?


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