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clappa
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


To many zeroes on that count. Try 10 pages of crap (Max's posts).

Freezing your ass off today Max? It's in the mid 60's today on the Space Coast.
 Quoting: bob_909


Another space coaster here?
 Quoting: Astromut


Yeppers. Working a contract gig in the area.

Can't wait until January 20, 2012 - I may take the day off if I'm working (I work a 9/80 schedule) to watch a launch. Never have seen one except from extreme distance (saw a shuttle launch from the top of the hanger in Savannah, GA many months ago).
 Quoting: bob_909

January 20th? I think the one you're referring to is currently set for the 19th.
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Just a heads-up. I hope you get to see it close up, it's much better than distant viewing.
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This is SOOOO unfair!!!! On top of that, "Wonkish" is a newbie. It is definitely unsportsmanlike conduct to bring in fresh "players" this late in the game!!!!!!

Typical of the debunkers though!
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WTF are you whining about now? Such typical behavior from woo-woos.
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I never intentionally ignore ANY question.

I'm just a busy guy.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Busy looking for the next failed doomsday prediction.
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And your actions speak a LOT louder than your words melfy- you have `claimed' to be a fence s(h)itter for years, yet again and again, you promote nancy and more recently cliff...
You never put forth any evidence against them, only FOR them...

This is not the actions of a fence sitter or a non believer
You believe every single word that drips from their orifaces...

In other words melfy- WE DONT BELIEVE YOU

(but then with your track accuracy, why would anyone believe anything you say???)
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


EXACTLY! +100

truly
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Sounds like your mind was made up before you even entered the arena!
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Sounds like your mind was made up before you truly examined her claims.
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Sigh - another setback. Once again the debunkers have worked overtime to destroy my "credibility".
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No, you do that on your own. You don't need us.
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To many zeroes on that count. Try 10 pages of crap (Max's posts).

Freezing your ass off today Max? It's in the mid 60's today on the Space Coast.
 Quoting: bob_909


Another space coaster here?
 Quoting: Astromut


Yeppers. Working a contract gig in the area.

Can't wait until January 20, 2012 - I may take the day off if I'm working (I work a 9/80 schedule) to watch a launch. Never have seen one except from extreme distance (saw a shuttle launch from the top of the hanger in Savannah, GA many months ago).
 Quoting: bob_909

January 20th? I think the one you're referring to is currently set for the 19th.
[link to www.ulalaunch.com]
Just a heads-up. I hope you get to see it close up, it's much better than distant viewing.
 Quoting: Astromut


to quote melfy

This is SOOOO unfair!!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Never seen a launch, nor am I ever likely to

:-(

That would be an experience of a lifetime......
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Sigh - another setback. Once again the debunkers have worked overtime to destroy my "credibility".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


No, you do that on your own. You don't need us.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


But you have to admit Circuit Breaker, it IS fun watching him try and squirm his way out of it each time...
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3 days to the end of the year....and Hap should get his steak soon!
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Unlike Nancy, Harold Camping has decided to quit while he's ahead:

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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Dont know if it's quite `while hes ahead' CB

He's already had to sell 2 of the radio stations to cover to funding shortfalls of his 2011 `predictions' and another 3 are in the pipeline

He spent over 100 million in advertising and with extrapolated 2011 earnings (2010 and 2011 earnings apparently haven't been filed yet, at least not publicly) he looks to have spent pretty much every cent they had available to them. Even IF he had a sudden spike in earnings from the two failed prediction dates, they would still be very cash strapped without major spending cuts

Quite interesting really, they have had themselves a nice little earner since 1958, it wasnt until the late 1990's that it started its decline (interestingly the same time that most of the board members resigned, leaving Camping in charge) and all throughout the 2000's it has been operating at a loss. Its income has increased and decreased, but always the operating costs were higher than the income (strangely almost always by the same ratio)

Future of it??

Possibly it might get bought out wholey by a rival network, or what is happening currently is being broken up piece by piece to cover yearly operational costs until it declares bankrupcy...
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Never seen a launch, nor am I ever likely to

:-(

That would be an experience of a lifetime......
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


Save for a trip up here to Florida for a launch, I guarantee it'd be worth it if you appreciate spaceflight. Of course, there's always the risk of scrubs and delays with any launch, but even in the worst case scenario, we still have some great spaceflight museums and attractions up here. One of those museums is run by a group of volunteers who are mostly retired space center employees and let me tell you, I could hang out there all day just shooting the breeze with some of those guys and listening to their stories.
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Save for a trip up here to Florida for a launch, I guarantee it'd be worth it if you appreciate spaceflight. Of course, there's always the risk of scrubs and delays with any launch, but even in the worst case scenario, we still have some great spaceflight museums and attractions up here. One of those museums is run by a group of volunteers who are mostly retired space center employees and let me tell you, I could hang out there all day just shooting the breeze with some of those guys and listening to their stories.
 Quoting: Astromut


I'd love to, but I must say, short of me winning the lottery, it's doubtful I will ever have the time or money to make that trip

:-(
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Never seen a launch, nor am I ever likely to

:-(

That would be an experience of a lifetime......
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


Save for a trip up here to Florida for a launch, I guarantee it'd be worth it if you appreciate spaceflight. Of course, there's always the risk of scrubs and delays with any launch, but even in the worst case scenario, we still have some great spaceflight museums and attractions up here. One of those museums is run by a group of volunteers who are mostly retired space center employees and let me tell you, I could hang out there all day just shooting the breeze with some of those guys and listening to their stories.
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I got burned by a scrub on a night shuttle launch a couple years ago...drove down from Savannah and at an ungodly hour in the morning, they scrubbed the launch.

At least now I'm less than a hour's drive from the Cape.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Never seen a launch, nor am I ever likely to

:-(

That would be an experience of a lifetime......
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


Save for a trip up here to Florida for a launch, I guarantee it'd be worth it if you appreciate spaceflight. Of course, there's always the risk of scrubs and delays with any launch, but even in the worst case scenario, we still have some great spaceflight museums and attractions up here. One of those museums is run by a group of volunteers who are mostly retired space center employees and let me tell you, I could hang out there all day just shooting the breeze with some of those guys and listening to their stories.
 Quoting: Astromut


I got burned by a scrub on a night shuttle launch a couple years ago...drove down from Savannah and at an ungodly hour in the morning, they scrubbed the launch.

At least now I'm less than a hour's drive from the Cape.
 Quoting: bob_909


Yeah, it's always a roll of the dice with these things. I'd usually grab a spot on the river the night before a launch, but even if it was ultimately scrubbed I was always in good company while waiting. I'm going to miss those days.

People still come for the rocket launches, but not nearly as many and it's just not the same; usually if they're from out of state or out of country it's not like they planned their trip to catch the launch, they just heard about it while they were here and happened to stop by. Back in the day it was a magnet for die hard space enthusiasts, now it's just a weaker magnet for whoever happens to hear about it. Not saying the company's not great, but in my experience the dynamic is changed; now I'm about the only one who's still crazy enough to haul a big ass scope down to the river hours before a launch.
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Got to see the final launch of the Space Shuttle, and wrote about it here:

[link to www.q-a.net]

Glad to see the debunkers going strong.
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I'm definitely going to haul the DSLR and one of my zoom lenses with me to the launch. It's night launch and it should make for some good photos.
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Zetas Wrong Again!

GA accident, fatality rates down in 2010

General aviation accidents and fatalities declined in 2010 for the fourth consecutive year, according to National Transportation Safety Board data released this month.

In total number, the 1,435 GA accidents marked a 20-year low, even as estimated total flight hours began to climb for the first time since the Great Recession began. There were 450 GA accident fatalities in 2010, down from 478 in 2009.

[link to www.aopa.org]
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[link to overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com]

There's just one thing to say....

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Zetas Wrong Again!

GA accident, fatality rates down in 2010

General aviation accidents and fatalities declined in 2010 for the fourth consecutive year, according to National Transportation Safety Board data released this month.

In total number, the 1,435 GA accidents marked a 20-year low, even as estimated total flight hours began to climb for the first time since the Great Recession began. There were 450 GA accident fatalities in 2010, down from 478 in 2009.

[link to www.aopa.org]
 Quoting: bob_909


[link to overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com]

There's just one thing to say....

:zwrong2:
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



But how can this be so, with the 7 of 10 well advanced, half of Indonesia and Asia underwater, the plates rocking and rolling, she said the planes would be dropping from the skies like flies (hey Im a poet and didnt even know it) and just look at the nings list of plane crashes.....


It's all a media/government coverup I tells ya.....



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Got to see the final launch of the Space Shuttle, and wrote about it here:

[link to www.q-a.net]

Glad to see the debunkers going strong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015670


I sadly missed the final launch due to a last minute problem at work, but on the flip side it drove me to push the envelope on tracking it with the telescope so that I could at least say I saw the final mission. I was actually cheering when they stopped the clock at -31 seconds, only to get let down when they picked up the count again. Glad to hear you got tickets to see it launch from the visitor center, that's something I never did despite growing up in Titusville.
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What I hope to get this weekend:
[link to youtu.be]
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What I hope to get this weekend:
[link to youtu.be]
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Hopefully there won't be a Pole Shift in the next 50 hours to interfere with your "plans".
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In South Africa only 39 hours to go until 2012!!!
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What I hope to get this weekend:
[link to youtu.be]
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Hopefully there won't be a Pole Shift in the next 50 hours to interfere with your "plans".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


About as much chance of that happening as melfy finally getting some common sense...

(ie none!!!)
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Hopefully there won't be a Pole Shift in the next 50 hours to interfere with your "plans".
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In South Africa only 39 hours to go until 2012!!!
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Doesn't count - you have to wait an additional THIRTEEN hours for it to strike midnight on America Samoa and Midway Island.

Time difference between Midway, USA and Johannesburg, South Africa

[link to www.timezonedistance.com]

When year 2012 starts around the world

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

Also - let it be noted that the island of Samoa switched time zones this year in desperate bid to "speed up the clock" and get out of 2011 as quickly as possible in order to avoid being stuck with a last minute 2011 POLE SHIFT.

Samoa skips dateline: America Samoa now the last place on earth to see the sunset

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

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In South Africa only 39 hours to go until 2012!!!
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Doesn't count - you have to wait an additional THIRTEEN hours for it to strike midnight on America Samoa and Midway Island.

Time difference between Midway, USA and Johannesburg, South Africa

[link to www.timezonedistance.com]

When year 2012 starts around the world

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

Also - let it be noted that the island of Samoa switched time zones this year in desperate bid to "speed up the clock" and get out of 2011 as quickly as possible in order to avoid being stuck with a last minute 2011 POLE SHIFT.

Samoa skips dateline: America Samoa now the last place on earth to see the sunset

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

:zright:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

You don't have the authority to say it doesn't count. The bet was that 2012 is too far out. There aren't three days left for the "three days of darkness" to happen before 2012. We don't have "weeks and months" before 2012 comes when the presence of PX will be undeniable in the skies prior to the "passage". You can bicker all you want over time zones and 13 hours leeway, but you have lost your bet, Melfy. You have shown everyone here what a troll you are, a liar, and I will be surprised if you actually pay Hap with that steak. How does it feel to be the last idiot dumb and stubborn enough to defend Nancy on GLP? It's all come to an end for Nancy here, only a handful of nuts on the ning look to her for doom. And now you are defending Clif. Why is it you don't hang out at the ning? Could it be that you really don't care about Nancy and her proclamations? Could it be that you seek debunkers to troll because in your world it makes you feel special? Could it be that the ning is boring for you because there are no debunkers allowed? Does Clif pay you with free copies of his drivel for spreading is gospel of goatshit on this thread? I hear Candace pays better. LOL
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Never seen a launch, nor am I ever likely to

:-(

That would be an experience of a lifetime......
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


Save for a trip up here to Florida for a launch, I guarantee it'd be worth it if you appreciate spaceflight. Of course, there's always the risk of scrubs and delays with any launch, but even in the worst case scenario, we still have some great spaceflight museums and attractions up here. One of those museums is run by a group of volunteers who are mostly retired space center employees and let me tell you, I could hang out there all day just shooting the breeze with some of those guys and listening to their stories.
 Quoting: Astromut


Check out my last trip to KSC for the launch of the Mars rover "Curiosity" in November. Being associated with the press, I've been able to get clearance to photograph the last shuttle launch last July and the Curiosity launch in November from sound triggered cameras at the pad.

[link to picasaweb.google.com (secure)]

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