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What's that Max? Speak up. You have lost your bet. No amount of twisting and gyrating will get you out of it. The world is still here. I am not clinging to a clif with my limbs dangling (though I am a bit hung over), 2012 is here and you owe Hap a steak.

Happy New year to all my debunker friends. This time next year the 2012tards will finally have to admit that the "Mayan" calendar doom was a hoax and we will see what new scams take their place to empty the pockets of the gullible.
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Try the links now...apparently the properties of those albums was set to limited. Now they are set to public.
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Awesome pictures Hap! Thanks for sharing them.
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What's that Max? At a loss for words?
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OK, Max. You've had your little fun. Now it's 2012 in all parts of the earth. Will you live up to your word and denounce Nancy and pay your debt, or not. The choice is all yours.

I'll check back in a few hours to see what kind of "man" you are.
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 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


well its pretty plain that maxipad/melfy has `nothing' to say

IF (and I might say that imho thats a pretty `BIG' if he ever mans up and did as he said he would....)

he actually does what he PROMISED he would- no wrigling/backsliding and otherwise doing his usual bullshitte


`IF' money is an issue- that he cant meet face to face with Hap as he had promised to meet up with because of it, I am willing to put forth some $$ to pay for his travel- NOT note any flash billion dollar a day hotels..
but I am sure that IF melfy cant afford to meet up in person because of travel costs, we could all chip in (hey it wouldnt be twenty bucks each LOL) to ensure that he cant use the `costs me too much' excuse to have a personal meet and buy hap his steaks as per the agreement

and of course melfy would have to acknowledge EVERY single person who chipped in cash to pay his way FOR HIM- wouldn't be nice not to say who paid for your `free' trip if you are so poor as to be unable to pay for it (maybe that $10 a month to cliff could be better spent elsewhere????)

and say a picture of Hap and melfy side by side, both holding a plackard of everyone who put $ into the `lets make Hap and melfy meet' drive....

and `the' steak on the table in front of them....



Its an interesting test of melfy's beliefs....
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everyone knows where Hap is (well not to the street number but certainly close enough)

All melfy has to do is say which state he is in, then we can quite quickly figure out how much we need for melfy to meet up with Hap in person so he can buy him that steak....

I'm willing to put up $100 Ozzie bucks right here and now to the `make melfy meet Hap'fundraiser
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Well, here it is after 5 PM on January 1st, 2012 and Max is nowhere to be found.

As for the bet, a couple of weeks ago, I took pity on him with his poormouthing about how expensive a trip to South Carolina was going to be for him and I offered him the option of simply sending me a gift certificate for a full steak dinner for two (not the cheapest thing on the menu, but two nice full steak dinners including drinks) at Ruth's Chris in Columbia, SC, since that was what the bet was for in the first place. Obviously, I had hoped to be able to meet face to face so that I could see just what type of personality is so gullible that they would fall for such ridiculous foolishness as Nancy's claims.

The other half of the bet was that Max was to state that Nancy is a hoaxer and that he was wrong to believe her tripe, and that the debunkers have been right all along. With the date being what it is, this is obviously true.

Max, where are you?
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everyone knows where Hap is (well not to the street number but certainly close enough)

All melfy has to do is say which state he is in, then we can quite quickly figure out how much we need for melfy to meet up with Hap in person so he can buy him that steak....

I'm willing to put up $100 Ozzie bucks right here and now to the `make melfy meet Hap'fundraiser
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That would be very nice and I would promise a full report with pictures. Of course, anyone who would like to take a trip to SC would be most welcome to come along.

As for my location, I have no problem with that. I have listed my observatory's web site numerous time (www.machunter.org) which has my home email address. I believe I have also listed one of my sideline businesses before (www.imaginginfinity.com) which has my shipping address.

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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


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I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
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What a complete crock of utter bullshit! It's difficult to believe that there are those so completely uneducated in basic science that they could fall for such crap. But I guess it's those people like Max who provide the feedback for Nancy to keep spewing such baloney.

And I guess Max has shown us his true character (and I use that word loosely here) today by his being in hiding.
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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
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What a complete crock of utter bullshit! It's difficult to believe that there are those so completely uneducated in basic science that they could fall for such crap. But I guess it's those people like Max who provide the feedback for Nancy to keep spewing such baloney.

And I guess Max has shown us his true character (and I use that word loosely here) today by his being in hiding.
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I admit that Nancy was wrong.
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LOL!! This article even mentions Nancy.

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

As we know, whatever NASA or astronomers say - means something entirely different to the doomtards. In most cases, the doomtards use it to support their claims (i.e. if NASA says "Planet X" doesn't exist, that means it does).

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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
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What a complete crock of utter bullshit! It's difficult to believe that there are those so completely uneducated in basic science that they could fall for such crap. But I guess it's those people like Max who provide the feedback for Nancy to keep spewing such baloney.

And I guess Max has shown us his true character (and I use that word loosely here) today by his being in hiding.
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I admit that Nancy was wrong.
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Do you admit that we were right all along? And what of the steak you promised Hap? The stakes here weren't too high, but the steak must now be nigh!
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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
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And yet the North Star remains aligned near the North Celestial Pole as predicted by traditional astronomy regardless of when you observe it or from where on Earth you observe if *from.* How would that be possible, Nancy, if all that wobbling were afoot?

The cognitive dissonance continues.

But it at least appears that Max is no longer on board at all. I'd be curious to hear a conversation betwixt ZM and Nancy now, but expect he is no longer allowed to contact her -- he is now considered a heretic, I suppose.

Look forward to seeing how the steak thing works out.
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I admit that Nancy was wrong.
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Do you admit that we were right all along? And what of the steak you promised Hap? The stakes here weren't too high, but the steak must now be nigh!
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You've been waiting all these years JUST to use that pun, haven't you?
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lol4me MOST amazing post on our thread that Melfy has ever created. Finally a realisation that ALL of the predicted DOOM that he has ever spouted about over the years has amounted to a total BLANK in reality and created a huge SPACE of nothingness in regards to truthfulness.

lol4me So much for soonx huh Melfy you loosa

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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
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What a complete crock of utter bullshit! It's difficult to believe that there are those so completely uneducated in basic science that they could fall for such crap. But I guess it's those people like Max who provide the feedback for Nancy to keep spewing such baloney.

And I guess Max has shown us his true character (and I use that word loosely here) today by his being in hiding.
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I admit that Nancy was wrong.
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Do you admit that we were right all along? And what of the steak you promised Hap? The stakes here weren't too high, but the steak must now be nigh!
 Quoting: Astromut


I admit that the debunkers were right all along about NANCY - insofar as she diseminates fabricated information.

The question remanes whether she is acting "alone" in that effort.
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Now, Mr. ZetaSOON, it looks like you have finally lost your speech.....


FINE!
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I admit that the debunkers were right all along about NANCY - insofar as she diseminates fabricated information.

The question remanes whether she is acting "alone" in that effort.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**
Are you really trying to cling to that kind of subterfuge? I mean really, Nancy's theory is in the potty, and you now claim there may be some shadowy "others", disseminating fabricated information?

Now that Nancy is dead in the water, you are going to invent/imagine a whole slew of co-conspirators putting out fabricated information?

Is there no end to your delusion?

Is there no end to cliffy-boi reaching into your pocket?

What will you say when March passes without incident?

Will it be steak for all GLP members?
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I admit that the debunkers were right all along about NANCY - insofar as she diseminates fabricated information.

The question remanes whether she is acting "alone" in that effort.
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The question remains whether you have learned anything. I suspect not.
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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You have a stake in the steak?
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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chuckle
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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You have a stake in the steak?
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Well at least we know that you had a seat on the bus Melfster

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If WWIII has not started, and millions have not died as a result - by April 1st 2012, then indeed I will have been THE FOOL, and will confess as much.
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tlr4 And how many times can one fall off the Clif face without permanent damage to one's being before one learns that it is a FOOLISH exercise?

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And the steak? I need an answer.
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You have a stake in the steak?
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I need to know if you're going to honor your bet or not. Are you going to give Hap his steak or not? Others have offered financial support if getting there is too much of a burden, and Hap even generously offered to accept payment for the steak dinner even if you can't make it. So what's it going to be? Are you just going to dishonor your word completely and neglect to give Hap his steak?

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And the steak? I need an answer.
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You have a stake in the steak?
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I need to know if you're going to honor your bet or not. Are you going to give Hap his steak or not? Others have offered financial support if getting there is too much of a burden, and Hap even generously offered to accept payment for the steak dinner even if you can't make it. So what's it going to be? Are you just going to dishonor your word completely and neglect to give Hap his steak?
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I'm weighing options.

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Here's a menu from a typical Ruth's Chris with prices.

[link to www.sizzlingsteak.com]

If you are going to take the option of a gift card, it needs to be enough to cover what you would have spent for dinner for two had you attended in person. That is, two full dinners (starter, entre (steak), side, dessert and drinks).

Bon Appetit!

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