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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
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What a complete crock of utter bullshit! It's difficult to believe that there are those so completely uneducated in basic science that they could fall for such crap. But I guess it's those people like Max who provide the feedback for Nancy to keep spewing such baloney.

And I guess Max has shown us his true character (and I use that word loosely here) today by his being in hiding.
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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
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What a complete crock of utter bullshit! It's difficult to believe that there are those so completely uneducated in basic science that they could fall for such crap. But I guess it's those people like Max who provide the feedback for Nancy to keep spewing such baloney.

And I guess Max has shown us his true character (and I use that word loosely here) today by his being in hiding.
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I admit that Nancy was wrong.
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LOL!! This article even mentions Nancy.

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

As we know, whatever NASA or astronomers say - means something entirely different to the doomtards. In most cases, the doomtards use it to support their claims (i.e. if NASA says "Planet X" doesn't exist, that means it does).

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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8091580


What a complete crock of utter bullshit! It's difficult to believe that there are those so completely uneducated in basic science that they could fall for such crap. But I guess it's those people like Max who provide the feedback for Nancy to keep spewing such baloney.

And I guess Max has shown us his true character (and I use that word loosely here) today by his being in hiding.
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I admit that Nancy was wrong.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Do you admit that we were right all along? And what of the steak you promised Hap? The stakes here weren't too high, but the steak must now be nigh!
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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8091580


And yet the North Star remains aligned near the North Celestial Pole as predicted by traditional astronomy regardless of when you observe it or from where on Earth you observe if *from.* How would that be possible, Nancy, if all that wobbling were afoot?

The cognitive dissonance continues.

But it at least appears that Max is no longer on board at all. I'd be curious to hear a conversation betwixt ZM and Nancy now, but expect he is no longer allowed to contact her -- he is now considered a heretic, I suppose.

Look forward to seeing how the steak thing works out.
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I admit that Nancy was wrong.
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Do you admit that we were right all along? And what of the steak you promised Hap? The stakes here weren't too high, but the steak must now be nigh!
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You've been waiting all these years JUST to use that pun, haven't you?
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 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


lol4me MOST amazing post on our thread that Melfy has ever created. Finally a realisation that ALL of the predicted DOOM that he has ever spouted about over the years has amounted to a total BLANK in reality and created a huge SPACE of nothingness in regards to truthfulness.

lol4me So much for soonx huh Melfy you loosa

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Even nancy obviously didn't believe the world was ending as she wrote her zetatalk report on the 31/12/11

An apparent contradiction is that while the Sun has been located too far to the south at sunrise in N America and setting too far to the south in Europe, implying that less sunlight should be reaching these areas, while much of the Northern Hemisphere has had warmer than usual temps for December. The Earth wobble primarily pushes the Earth's magnetic N Pole away when the Sun is over the Pacific and the N Pole currently off coast of Siberia in the Arctic comes up over the horizon. This great push puts the Pacific under the Arctic air, while giving India cold spells. N America is to the side during this push while Europe finds itself pushed under tropical air as a result.

By the time the globe turns so that the Sun is coming up over Europe, the globe has bounced back, rebounded from the push and in fact over compensated. Where Europe was pushed south during the polar push, it now bounces up northward, so the Sun seems too far south. But the warming influence of the tropical air lingers. For N America, which lies to the side on this push/rebound, the effect is a pumping action. The jet stream is disrupted, and the air mixed. While the south may be having cool spells, the north may be virtually roasting, the opposite of what is expected


[link to www.zetatalk.com]


I thought id of at least seen signs of some part of the world going under by now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8091580


What a complete crock of utter bullshit! It's difficult to believe that there are those so completely uneducated in basic science that they could fall for such crap. But I guess it's those people like Max who provide the feedback for Nancy to keep spewing such baloney.

And I guess Max has shown us his true character (and I use that word loosely here) today by his being in hiding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


I admit that Nancy was wrong.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Do you admit that we were right all along? And what of the steak you promised Hap? The stakes here weren't too high, but the steak must now be nigh!
 Quoting: Astromut


I admit that the debunkers were right all along about NANCY - insofar as she diseminates fabricated information.

The question remanes whether she is acting "alone" in that effort.
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 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Now, Mr. ZetaSOON, it looks like you have finally lost your speech.....


FINE!
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I admit that the debunkers were right all along about NANCY - insofar as she diseminates fabricated information.

The question remanes whether she is acting "alone" in that effort.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**
Are you really trying to cling to that kind of subterfuge? I mean really, Nancy's theory is in the potty, and you now claim there may be some shadowy "others", disseminating fabricated information?

Now that Nancy is dead in the water, you are going to invent/imagine a whole slew of co-conspirators putting out fabricated information?

Is there no end to your delusion?

Is there no end to cliffy-boi reaching into your pocket?

What will you say when March passes without incident?

Will it be steak for all GLP members?
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I admit that the debunkers were right all along about NANCY - insofar as she diseminates fabricated information.

The question remanes whether she is acting "alone" in that effort.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The question remains whether you have learned anything. I suspect not.
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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chuckle
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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You have a stake in the steak?
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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chuckle
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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chuckle
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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You have a stake in the steak?
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Well at least we know that you had a seat on the bus Melfster

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If WWIII has not started, and millions have not died as a result - by April 1st 2012, then indeed I will have been THE FOOL, and will confess as much.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


tlr4 And how many times can one fall off the Clif face without permanent damage to one's being before one learns that it is a FOOLISH exercise?

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And the steak? I need an answer.
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You have a stake in the steak?
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I need to know if you're going to honor your bet or not. Are you going to give Hap his steak or not? Others have offered financial support if getting there is too much of a burden, and Hap even generously offered to accept payment for the steak dinner even if you can't make it. So what's it going to be? Are you just going to dishonor your word completely and neglect to give Hap his steak?

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And the steak? I need an answer.
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You have a stake in the steak?
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I need to know if you're going to honor your bet or not. Are you going to give Hap his steak or not? Others have offered financial support if getting there is too much of a burden, and Hap even generously offered to accept payment for the steak dinner even if you can't make it. So what's it going to be? Are you just going to dishonor your word completely and neglect to give Hap his steak?
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I'm weighing options.

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Here's a menu from a typical Ruth's Chris with prices.

[link to www.sizzlingsteak.com]

If you are going to take the option of a gift card, it needs to be enough to cover what you would have spent for dinner for two had you attended in person. That is, two full dinners (starter, entre (steak), side, dessert and drinks).

Bon Appetit!

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Sorry - but they are NOT two sides of the same coin. Clif is not a liar.
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He isn't? He may not have had to come up with any "white lies" to explain failures...but he's certainly offered up plenty of excuses for his growing list of failed predictions.
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If WWIII has not started, and millions have not died as a result - by April 1st 2012, then indeed I will have been THE FOOL, and will confess as much.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Cool...looking forward to April 1 to see if you stand by that or if you back pedal as fast as Clif.
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>> Of course he is.

Gosh - you make it sound so simple and obvious that even a "fool" should see it.
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Actually, that is quite correct!

You are worse than a fool. You are determinedly credulous.
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>> Of course he is.

Gosh - you make it sound so simple and obvious that even a "fool" should see it.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Actually, that is quite correct!

You are worse than a fool. You are determinedly credulous.
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Is that a synonym of "willfully ignorant"?
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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chuckle
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LOL!!!!
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And the steak? I need an answer.
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chuckle
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A blue ribbon panel has been assembled to study the problem. Recommendations will be forthcoming.

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 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

ZetaSOON will never learn. Dumbhead.
The next backpedalling will be in April.
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ZetaMax is a classic internet troll. Nothing more.

'It' will forever support some new bit of bullshit because it gets its kicks from winding people up.
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I have not yet heard from Max if he is going to come through with his debt payment, or try to weasel out of it. I think we all know which way it will go.
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This is why trolls like Max prefer to remain anonymous. They know that they can never come through with any of their BS.

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